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ncaa 2006
B1 shoots, misses the goal, and ball is heading out of bounds and just breaks the plane in the air
over the endline just as B2 jumps from in bounds into the air and is airborne over the ground (over the endline) while A2 stays with feet on ground just inside the endline.
Your ruling?
Whoever is closest to the ball when it went out of bounds. Not enough info to answer.
LaxRef
11-21-2005, 10:41 AM
Whoever is closest to the ball when it went out of bounds. Not enough info to answer.
Incorrect! There is enough info under the 2006 NCAA rules.
blindbill
11-21-2005, 10:48 AM
Since the player in the air is considered to be where he last touched the ground, his being in the air wouldn't have a bearing on the call. Whoever was closest to the ball WHEN it went out WHERE it went out gets posession.
Incorrect! There is enough info under the 2006 NCAA rules.
I don't understand how there is enough info to properly answer. He just said the the players at at the baseline (quickly paraphrasing) he doesn't say the location of ball and/or players on the field.
LaxRef
11-21-2005, 11:08 AM
I don't understand how there is enough info to properly answer. He just said the the players at at the baseline (quickly paraphrasing) he doesn't say the location of ball and/or players on the field.
Sorry, my bad. I misread the question. You're right: whoever is closest gets the ball, assuming the ball is not caught. This is what I thought he was getting at:
Alternative Question:
B1 shoots, misses the goal, and ball is heading out of bounds and just breaks the plane in the air over the endline just as B2 jumps from in bounds into the air and is airborne over the ground (over the endline). B2 catches the ball in the air past the endline and throws it back inbounds to B3 before B2 lands out of bounds. A3 stays with feet on ground just inside the endline and is the closest player to the spot where the ball went out next to B2. Ruling?
(Yeah, I know, that's a pretty serious misread, but I was assuming he was getting at a 2006 NCAA rule clarification.)
LaxRef's Funky Situation: "B1 shoots, misses the goal, and ball is heading out of bounds and just breaks the plane in the air over the endline just as B2 jumps from in bounds into the air and is airborne over the ground (over the endline). B2 catches the ball in the air past the endline and throws it back inbounds to B3 before B2 lands out of bounds. A3 stays with feet on ground just inside the endline and is the closest player to the spot where the ball went out next to B2. Ruling?"
I would say the ball is still live because B2 launched himself from inbounds (YOU-ARE-WHERE-YOU-TOOK-OFF-FROM -EXCEPT WHEN-GOING-INTO-ATTACK-AREA). The new wording in the 2006 ncaa rulebook about ball breaking the plane of the line is ONLY there in helping an official make a determination IF NEED BE...in this case it wasn't needed. I think I have made sense.....
laxfan25
11-21-2005, 01:36 PM
Assuming the shot off the endline; B2 in the air (assuming he left from in-bounds and hasn't touched down), if he is closest to where the ball went out would gain possession on the shot, since he was closer than A3. B2 can also catch the ball and play it until which time he lands out of bounds.
Re: eme's "You are where you took off from, except when going into the attack area", is not really an accurate reading of the rule. In other words, a player trying to get the ball in the box leaps in the air, is over the attack box when the 10-count expires - is not considered "in the attack area for the purpose of ending the 1-second count", so he is still "where he took off from". Conversely, a player is trying to get the ball in the box to beat the 10. He throws a pass - his teammate, who is in the attack box, leaps high to catch the pass, the ball caroms off his stick out of the box, and he lands back in the attack area. Count now reaches 11 seconds. Turnover - since the ball was never "in the box" within 10 seconds. I believe these are the two scenarios they were looking to address with the new phrase.