NCAA championship mesh? [Archive]

lacrossefanatic

12-12-2005, 02:55 PM

Question: I've been watching my tapes of the NCAA champ between JHP and Duke and the Virginia vs JHP semi-finals (Unbelievable) ... And I was checking out their sticks. What struck me is their BN perfect mesh, Esp for JHP. After every pass or shots.. their pocket would almost go inside out. These were BN pockets yet they were extremely borken in. I thought they used hard mesh but from the looks of it it looks like soft to me. I concluded that they must be using American mesh. I've read that they all get their sticks strung by proffesionals -I was really jealous when I saw their sticks lined up on the side lines- so odds are no one knows what they use. If you do know please post... I'd love to get my hands on one of their sticks and just analyze it.

Answer: "?"

PhishMeister

12-12-2005, 02:56 PM

Extreme stretching, Semi-Hard, Catapultation.

lacrossefanatic

12-12-2005, 03:03 PM

I have an evo pro strung with catapultation... and trust me when I say that its extremely stretch... infact its ready to be changed. I played with it for a long time.. and only in the past 3 weeks has it begun to go "inside out" after every past or shot. But only half as much as theirs do.
What process do they use to stretch it.. like what intensity is extremely stretched... And is there a significant difference between semi-hard and hard jimalax catapultation?

MainLax28

12-12-2005, 03:23 PM

Could it also possibly be the shooter configuration/ amoutn of whip. I have one stick with hard mesh that has only one shooter and maximum whip, and it goes inside out whenever I throw.

MaKiMaKi13

12-12-2005, 04:05 PM

heyyy youve got a tape of the championship game 2 sweet lol great minds must think alike ive got mine 2 and i have noticed that

i really dont know to tell you the truth i always thought it was just broken in hard mesh maybe they just play with it indoors so that the mesh looks mostly brand new then when they go out onto the field when they throw and shoot it goes inside out

it could also be a stringing thing but ill try and experiment and see if i come up with anything

ex-lax

12-12-2005, 04:25 PM

where did you get ur tapes of the games

scruffy221

12-12-2005, 04:31 PM

where did you get ur tapes of the games

ya i want to know that too, did u just tape them urselves or go buy them somewhere?

aof09lax

12-12-2005, 04:40 PM

That was such a good game. Kip Turner is going to be better then Tillman Johnson. I was still a little suprised by that ot goal, it didn't really show how good of a goalie he is

sglaxr009

12-12-2005, 05:04 PM

my cata does that. its literally softer than my bath towels. i wet it with extremely hot water then hold it over the stove(it does get hot) and it gets really soft.

laxgod1790

12-12-2005, 05:45 PM

my cata does that. its literally softer than my bath towels. i wet it with extremely hot water then hold it over the stove(it does get hot) and it gets really soft.

Then isnt it just like soft mesh?

zachm90

12-12-2005, 06:09 PM

I think catapultion still holds its pocket better, doesn't stretch as much as soft mesh when wet, and its thicker so its more durable and will last longer.

lacrossefanatic

12-12-2005, 06:33 PM

yeah I taped the games... If you guys want copies... I can send you guys some but u'll have to pay for shipping and the price of the tape.

PhishMeister

12-12-2005, 06:47 PM

I have an evo pro strung with catapultation... and trust me when I say that its extremely strung... infact its ready to be changed. I played with it for a long time.. and only in the past 3 weeks has it begun to go "inside out" after every past or shot. But only half as much as theirs do.
What process do they use to stretch it.. like what intensity is extremely stretched... And is there a significant difference between semi-hard and hard jimalax catapultation?

Umm their hands ?

laxxkidd07

12-12-2005, 06:51 PM

it rained so that could be why jhu's pockets were so stretched

jackattack

12-12-2005, 07:08 PM

they string their sticks themselves bud

laxxkidd07

12-12-2005, 07:17 PM

not everyone does... if you watch UVA play they all have the same pocket since conor gill went there and they all get them done by one stringer, but for JHU i really dont know i was just speaking from what i know

sglaxr009

12-12-2005, 08:07 PM

in lacrosse magazine it said that kevin boland string their sticks.

laxdevil666

12-13-2005, 03:37 PM

the reason that they're sticks are all broken in, but very clean, is that they played all but i think 2 games on turf, and that would probably keep them clean.

wrwarrior19

12-17-2005, 11:58 AM

^^
If this is true, then they'd probably have a stick specifically for practice. Not every team has a turf field so they might use it for practice on a practice field.

laxdevil666

12-18-2005, 05:02 PM

laxgoalieking

12-18-2005, 07:52 PM

i doubt that they'd have a seperate stick for practice. why would you practice with something that is different from yor game stick. just dosnet make any sense, it takes too much time to adjust back and forth from stick to stick.
unless they had the same stick strung with the same mesh the same way, yeah ever 6think 'bout that?

lacrossefanatic

12-18-2005, 09:24 PM

even there these guys are pros.. I can easily exhange sticks with my friends throw maybe once or twice and be fine.

jackattack

12-18-2005, 10:44 PM

i highly doubt any college lacorsse player does not string their own stick, ur stick is ur preferance on what goes where and other stuff, i think it would be just stupid to have someone else choose something for you, in lacrosse, and in life

laxgoalieking

12-18-2005, 10:52 PM

jackattack- many clooege players and some pros do not string their own sticks, usualy they take their stick to the same guy that strung their stick in high school, just look e-lacrosse stick tech the pockets down at the bottom were al stung for college players by some one else, mostly marc krastel.

laxngoalie

12-19-2005, 01:32 AM

Yah mark millon had a guy who strung his sticks the way he liked and didnt do them on his own. lots of guys dont have the time to do it themselves or other reasons

Ghslongpole14

12-19-2005, 05:18 PM

Well, these guys aren't going to school to learn, they're going to play lacrosse. I'm sure the majority of them could string a really nice stick, and some could do a really nice one in under 5 minutes. I bet they know the inside and outside of mesh, and I would like to have a really fresh looking stick too for the championship game.

BTW, the only stick I really noticed that did that was Huntley's after his shot off the crossbar against UVa.

TheNino57

12-19-2005, 05:48 PM

...it takes too much time to adjust back and forth from stick to stick.

^^Not if you have a couple of sticks, strung identically, on a rotation.

GRIFFIN15

12-19-2005, 07:00 PM

Well, these guys aren't going to school to learn, they're going to play lacrosse.

I hope you're not refering to the D1 lacrosse players...

If you are, the D1 programs are all very strong academic schools and all require strong academics... just take a look at hopkins' seniors; virtually all the players had awesome jobs right after college. They use their lacrosse ability to get a great education. They go to school to learn first and then lacrosse comes next. Remember there is no significant pro lacrosse league. They all have real jobs.

Ghslongpole14

12-21-2005, 04:04 PM

Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking when I posted that. I must have been thinking about football/basketball players...

My fault. Good correction.

lacrossefanatic

01-15-2006, 05:02 PM

Just to finalize this thread, I just restrung my evo pro and I succeeded in making the mesh go inside out after every shot or pass. This worked best right after I strung my stick. So this sets the precedent that most NCAA championship D1 players had just restung their head.
I'm thinking about making a tutorial on how to string it that way. I'm getting a second (back up) evo pro and when I'll string it I'll show you how to. Except my method might only work for the evo pro.
Advantage:
there isn't any need to buy a brine pulse because when the mesh goes inward it slows the ball when it enters.
Disadvantage:
It doesn't last long. Unless you're willing to change shooters every week or so.
-My conclusions:
--inserting brand new shooters will create more friction during a pass and pull the mesh inward.
--Also I attached the bottom of the pocket somewhat tightly to the neck. This will force the middle side are of the mesh to be pulled and not the neck area.

CHSlax

01-15-2006, 09:29 PM

its dura-mesh so its kinda semi hard and also you wash it with conditioner before stringing and it makes it really broken in same thing on my finalizer.

Orange

01-15-2006, 11:33 PM

I don't get it... the mesh just like goes in? That just means the mesh is pretty well broken in. It's also not that dirty cause they have more than one stick and mainly play on turf.

BioPro29

01-15-2006, 11:42 PM

I think the questions we should be asking are:

Why does it matter?
How does it affect me?
Why are we spending so much time trying to find the answer?

Just some food for thought.

FaceOffMan4

01-15-2006, 11:43 PM

it must just be it was raining or somthing and all their meshes stretched alot

OULax6

01-17-2006, 10:32 AM

i just strung a pocket with catapultation that i stretched a lot and used Pantene ProV conditioner and shampoo on. Now the mesh is bright white, smells delicious, and goes inside out everytime i pass or shoot. i think its really just a matter of how much you put into the break in process.

sirlaxalot125

01-17-2006, 04:50 PM