View Full Version : " Cheet string"
roswelllax85
12-14-2005, 07:22 PM
Do enny of yall use a cheet string and know how to string one?
WHS Lax
12-14-2005, 07:23 PM
do u mean cheat?
gigo567
12-14-2005, 07:24 PM
What. A what. Please explain. Or maybe i am the only one who doesn't get what he is saying.
roswelllax85
12-14-2005, 07:24 PM
ya thank for the spelling error
sorry about that
roswelllax85
12-14-2005, 07:25 PM
a cheat strig you put at the bottom when you string mesh it allows you to put a bigger pocket and when a reff asks you to check it you pull it and make it legel
gigo567
12-14-2005, 07:26 PM
That is called the bottom string and you have to use one. Unless you string the sidewall all the way around the stick.
WHEELAX2
12-14-2005, 07:27 PM
yeah, I used to use one when I had to.. you must pull it well before you are asked to show your stick, or it's going to be a penalty
WHS Lax
12-14-2005, 07:28 PM
yea i have used one too
roswelllax85
12-14-2005, 07:28 PM
Wheelax2 do you know how to string one?
leftwonder2
12-14-2005, 07:33 PM
pull strings.
use a piece of shooting string just like you would a bottom string. or when u are stringen a bottom string with the regular string.
tie a not at the end of the string then tie another knot about 1.5 inches down(enuf to get ur finger in thier with gloves on) after you tied another knot put the string throught the bottom string hole then loop in around and put it through again.
then string the rest of the bottom string the same way. ive used for a few years. havnt goten busted yet and my coach refs Mll and ncaa.
CUSEJHU2
12-14-2005, 07:34 PM
can you show a picture of it?
D Bay
12-14-2005, 07:35 PM
do you just mean a really long bottom string and then you scrunch up the mesh before the check and hope it tightens enough, or is there actually a technique to making the string stick where you pull it? anyway, I make borderline legal pockets with the bottom string pulled all the way tight, so I see no need for this, but I'm interested in any way to cheat still.
zachm90
12-14-2005, 07:36 PM
Do you have pics for how to string one?
D Bay
12-14-2005, 07:42 PM
Pics would be good. I'm sorry, I'm stupid, but I'm interested in how to do this.
b_cannons_123
12-14-2005, 07:43 PM
Yeah I do that or use a rubber band as well.
WHS Lax
12-14-2005, 07:44 PM
i got pics somewhere let me find em
D Bay
12-14-2005, 07:47 PM
i got pics somewhere let me find em
Awesome, thanks! Looking forward to seeing this
b_cannons_123
12-14-2005, 08:00 PM
Awesome, thanks! Looking forward to seeing this
Me as well I want to see what others are using.
wrwarrior19
12-15-2005, 01:23 AM
Nice avatar. I like it too.
Anyway, you could use two pairs of knots. The ones could be smaller so you could pull the strings through the holes with the knots. They don't need to be too big though because you still have to last through the stick check. Then just have a larger set of knots that can't slip through the bottom holes. When you get your stick back, just pull the mesh to pull the small knots back through.
tlaing22
12-15-2005, 08:10 AM
If your not cheating your not trying.
MaKiMaKi13
12-15-2005, 09:20 AM
i've never used one cuz most of the time my pockets are legal but i'd still like to see how ones done
fenwicklax89
12-15-2005, 03:40 PM
this is an ingenious idea. i never thought of making smaller knot that can fit through the holes so it stays that way.
brilliant!
James
12-15-2005, 03:44 PM
I prefer to win a game fairly but that is just probably me
slice n dice
12-15-2005, 03:46 PM
a cheat strig you put at the bottom when you string mesh it allows you to put a bigger pocket and when a reff asks you to check it you pull it and make it legel
Lol, I had my razer pro like that for a while..
WHEELAX2
12-15-2005, 03:53 PM
Wheelax2 do you know how to string one?
yes. I do, It's just really hard to explain without pics..
use it in the bottom of your mesh.. tie a knot on a small piece of string. put the string through the second hole from the left if you are looking at the back of the head. pull it through to the knot. weave the string through your mesh. .. then string it back through the bottom of the head through the third hole.. then instead of tying it off, loop the end of the string to the inside of the fourth hole, then tie it off..
here's the most random pic ever!!
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/444/picture15vx.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture15vx.jpg)
yes a five year old drew that!
BioPro29
12-15-2005, 04:55 PM
I prefer to win a game fairly but that is just probably me
You're not alone.
laxgod1790
12-15-2005, 07:48 PM
Uhhhh isn't this just a regular bottom string? Or am I just totally lost.
faceitoff
12-15-2005, 07:58 PM
Let's all be cheaters, guys!
It's a sad moment in lacrosse when the laxers can't rely on skill, but have to resort to "cheet strings."
fenwicklax89
12-15-2005, 08:31 PM
well i dont really like havin a mega deep pocket. it doesnt do anything for me. havin my pocket at maximum depth is about the max i can handle
GarysGod
12-15-2005, 08:31 PM
well refs usually take the stick, drop the ball in there and then do there thing. so if you pull the string would it get un-pulled, if you will, when he drops the ball or am i thinking of something different?
Mad-Max
12-15-2005, 09:01 PM
well refs usually take the stick, drop the ball in there and then do there thing. so if you pull the string would it get un-pulled, if you will, when he drops the ball or am i thinking of something different?
It depends on the diameter of the stringing hole and the actually string itself.
Lax101
12-16-2005, 02:24 AM
Ironically, a certain current MLL player and ex All American at Millon Camp taught the campers to do this during some drills.
I admit, I'm not the cleanest player. I'll take dives on groundballs for a free possession...thats bending the rules (haha, they also taught us to do that at Millon-Long Island kids are scum). But the bottom string trick is just blatant. Learn to use a legal pocket-its not too hard.
RockStar
12-16-2005, 07:12 AM
.....I'll take dives on groundballs for a free possession........But the bottom string trick is just blatant. Learn to use a legal pocket-its not too hard.
A diver is trying to tell others how to play honourably ? :WTF:
LaxZeppelin22
12-16-2005, 08:37 AM
i call them pop nots
vroom125
12-16-2005, 12:04 PM
just use rubber bands for your bottom string
PilotShinjiIkar
12-16-2005, 12:18 PM
just use rubber bands for your bottom string
Is that legal, I mean yes Brine now uses that but that could be illegally modifying your stick.... should ask LaxRef....
WHEELAX2
12-16-2005, 12:20 PM
yes. it just has to be synthetic material
sglaxr009
12-16-2005, 02:29 PM
most of my pockets are legal, but just in case they stretch during a game, i have one. look at wheelax's pic above. i use a piece of an old leather.
WHEELAX2
12-16-2005, 02:52 PM
[QUOTE=sglaxr009]i have one. look at wheelax's pic above. QUOTE]
that pic is awful.. sorry guys..!
laxxkidd07
12-19-2005, 12:38 PM
i have a question about this... i use this technique also, but my sticks never illegal even if i do it (for being to deep). however, can you get in trouble even if its legal because of having a big hole there? i've heard different things and now its a gray area to me
WHEELAX2
12-19-2005, 12:41 PM
no, and you shouldn't have a big hole there.. string your bottom string down further on your mesh..
and there's nothing wrong with having a gap there unless it keeps the ball from rolling out, etc..
craig21
12-19-2005, 12:58 PM
Ironically, a certain current MLL player and ex All American at Millon Camp taught the campers to do this during some drills.
I admit, I'm not the cleanest player. I'll take dives on groundballs for a free possession...thats bending the rules (haha, they also taught us to do that at Millon-Long Island kids are scum). But the bottom string trick is just blatant. Learn to use a legal pocket-its not too hard.
long island kids aren't scum they are just smart and know how to get away with different things. whatever you can get away with is legal as long as you don't get caught. Everyone cheats and they might not even know it.
laxxkidd07
12-19-2005, 01:52 PM
ok but i keep it there for a reason and i like it a lot. its not like huge but its not tight my any means whatsoever. i just like it because the ball sits in there real nice though.
Lax101
12-19-2005, 02:20 PM
long island kids aren't scum they are just smart and know how to get away with different things. whatever you can get away with is legal as long as you don't get caught. Everyone cheats and they might not even know it.
"They know how to get away with things"...Yeah, if you crosscheck a kid in the back and the ref doesn't see it, it's definitely a clean, legal hit. That's a very very crappy perspective of playing lacrosse.
I also felt that the LI kids were scum because even though this was a camp based in Long Island, having some of the better schools with kids going to it (Smithtown, Manhasset, Huntington, etc.), they still acted extremely stuck up about their playing ability, yet the best players ended up being kids outside of New York (a kid from Brother Rice, a few kids from Michigan, a few from PA, and a few from MA). It's a dead fact that NY has the best crop of lacrosse players in the country, but that doesn't mean that there are just as many poorly skilled players in NY, too. A lot of the kids acted like they were God's gift to the sport of lacrosse, would pull cheap shots, and then complain about harder/questionable hits that they received.
elementsk8r070
12-19-2005, 02:30 PM
Can't you just use a really thick bottom string? My coach at millon said all he did was use a really thick piece of sidewall and pulled on the strings before his stick was checked.
Lax1228
12-19-2005, 02:32 PM
My Answer came factory strung with a cheat string. I don't really like for my pocket to be too much of a bag, so I ended up tying it off to make a (consistently) legal pocket.
PW_LAXMAN_07
04-04-2006, 07:39 PM
those little clasp things on the strings of warrior gloves work well. if you knot one end of your bottom string and put it through one hole of the clasp...weave it through and make ur string however u wantr to get desired pocket depth...then put it through the other hole in the clasp, and knot it...all you have to do is pull the string tight when a ref checks ur stick, and since the clasp holds the string in place, it seems liek you have a legal pocket....then just loosen it again before you start playing....
whats the point of this? if the ref sees you touching your pocket before a stick check, you get a penalty anyways
gobluemiddie
04-04-2006, 08:04 PM
If your not cheating your not trying.
If you are cheating, you obviously don't try hard enough, if you did you wouldn't need to.
dragonlax
04-04-2006, 08:27 PM
A kid on my team tried to do this ealier in the season but he didnt do it right at all when he pulled the bottom string the pocket got to tight at the bottom and would get stuck. needless to say he ran many a lap for his stupidity. but i am not completely innocent either my freshman year i used one til a ref i am family friends with told me he let it go just cause it was a jv game but he would call it next time. so now i am a good lil laxer and use a good legal pocket....til indoor starts up
cmplax91
04-04-2006, 09:46 PM
i'd be really pissed if i was playing defense on a guy where i knew he had one, but when he went to get his stick checked it passed as legal
clayton
04-05-2006, 10:03 AM
why dont you just play with a legal stick
laxpro
04-05-2006, 12:41 PM
I prefer to win a game fairly but that is just probably me
You're not alone.
Im in the same boat
attacknation
04-05-2006, 12:47 PM
On my corner pocket the leathers can be used as "Cheat Strings" but I never used them to that extent. But im not gonna lie onetime my pocket was illegal and i tightened em when i noticed and thank god because afterward my head was checked (No one stripped the ball even tho they should have). The refs didnt really notice the leathers and i was all set. I wouldn't just do it all the time tho..its lame.
aviator
04-05-2006, 03:21 PM
Dont waste all your time makin a cheat string and just go practice, jeez...............
timberwlves03
04-05-2006, 05:10 PM
Im in the same boat
Agreed definately lame if u need to cheat
laxboy452
04-05-2006, 07:25 PM
i never knew that i strung it like that anyways lol
nofear45465
04-05-2006, 07:40 PM
man down here in NC we play clean lacrosse and just play with legal sticks like good little boys.
A-Tack28
04-05-2006, 08:18 PM
If you are cheating, you obviously don't try hard enough, if you did you wouldn't need to.
Just quoting for more emphasis, very true.
pclax41
04-05-2006, 09:14 PM
putting in caps so everyone can see... and i didnt read all posts so I dont know if some1 said this already BUT..
IT IS ILLEGAL FOR YOU TO TOUCH THE HEAD OF YOUR STICK AFTER BEING ASKED BY THE REF TO SEE THE STICK... BY TOUCHING THE HEAD AFTER BEING ASKED YOU ARE ADMITTING GUILT THEREFORE CATCHING A 3:00 MIN NR PEN. FOR YOUR TEAM ANYWAY...
NO OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE YOU DON'T NEED A CHEAT STRING.. AND IF YOU DO.. UR ADMITTING YOU SUCK
motolax415
04-05-2006, 09:32 PM
i totaly agree with you.
how about you guys learn to just keep your head in the game and not about your pocket. You don't want to be standing in the middle of the field making your pocket legal and pointing out to every one that you should be called for a penalty. So just string your pocket without a cheat string.
Ram-X-manII
04-06-2006, 11:07 AM
putting in caps so everyone can see... and i didnt read all posts so I dont know if some1 said this already BUT..
IT IS ILLEGAL FOR YOU TO TOUCH THE HEAD OF YOUR STICK AFTER BEING ASKED BY THE REF TO SEE THE STICK... BY TOUCHING THE HEAD AFTER BEING ASKED YOU ARE ADMITTING GUILT THEREFORE CATCHING A 3:00 MIN NR PEN. FOR YOUR TEAM ANYWAY...
YOU DON'T NEED A CHEAT STRING.. AND IF YOU DO.. UR ADMITTING YOU SUCK
Not meaning to steal your thunder but most players who play with sticks like this will pull the strings after each goal, and each quarter. This is the o nly time your stick will be checked usually. After it is apparent the ref is not calling for a stick check they beat the pocket back out and are good to go.
pclax41
04-06-2006, 11:48 AM
Not meaning to steal your thunder but most players who play with sticks like this will pull the strings after each goal, and each quarter. This is the o nly time your stick will be checked usually. After it is apparent the ref is not calling for a stick check they beat the pocket back out and are good to go.
either way its still retarted..are you proud of yourself that the only way you can get through a defender and score is if your stick is illegal?
RockStar
04-06-2006, 01:08 PM
....are you proud of yourself that the only way you can get through a defender and score is if your stick is illegal?
If the goal doesn't come off the board, and if there's no penalty.
YES, I'D BE VERY PROUD!!!! :clap:
Nothing wrong with grabbing that extra edge for yourself. Just be careful not to get caught often.
pclax41
04-06-2006, 05:15 PM
If the goal doesn't come off the board, and if there's no penalty.
YES, I'D BE VERY PROUD!!!! :clap:
Nothing wrong with grabbing that extra edge for yourself. Just be careful not to get caught often.
what do you mean theres nothing wrong!? obvisously ur stick is illegal! they made that rule for a reason... kids like you shouldn't even be playing
nofear45465
04-06-2006, 05:53 PM
what do you mean theres nothing wrong!? obvisously ur stick is illegal! they made that rule for a reason... kids like you shouldn't even be playing
all hes doing is progressing defensemen and making them work harder. so technically it shouldnt really be "cheating", but "progressing" the sport. i dont see the point but w/e
aviator
04-06-2006, 06:17 PM
ummmmhmmmmm
Jmalins23
04-06-2006, 06:28 PM
i dont have oneand probably wouldnt need one but can someone post a good pic of it cause im lost looking at wheelax's
RamLacrosse
04-06-2006, 07:27 PM
my coach taught us how to do this. Too bad half the kids on my team are to dumb to use it.
laxmiddie8
04-06-2006, 08:54 PM
yeah, I used to use one when I had to.. you must pull it well before you are asked to show your stick, or it's going to be a penalty
usually i dont even get a chance to try and pull and it cause they walk right over to you but my stick us legal so its not a problem
livin4lax09
04-06-2006, 11:16 PM
play fair. If you were good enough, you wouldn't feel the need to cheat.