Next Aussie MLL Player

[endoftheline]

as you all know J.T and Dennis Julleff just got drafted so who do you think will be next to get drafted to NLL or MLL?

[horney4lax]

Well i think the question is...who wants to be?
Wat are we talkin here...for next years draft?

[cannon]

of the current crop of senior players

Wes Green, Rob Stark, Reggie, Kim Delfs, Ryan Garnsworthy, Tim Fry could all have a legit shot

in the future provided they bust their asses

Ardossi, Sear, Ben Newman, Chris Williams,

[horney4lax]

Current...
Wes Green - possibly
Stark - maybe (as face off and GET off straight away)
Reggie - definatly (i can't belive they didn't draft him) althought he is a bit old, but he could give them a couple of yrs.
Kim Delfs - no
R. Garnsworthy - no
Tim Fry hes been drafted once so we'll leave him out.
Daniel Pusvacietis - If he gets big, he'll be hard to stop.
E. Desmond - Yep

Future stars...
A. Sear
B. Newman
M. Hyde
R. Sparks

Thats all that come to mind, i'll think of a few others.

[LIlaxkid]

Wes Green is one sick lax player. He has a good chance to make it to the MLL.

[AusD]

i reckon wes green is a damn awesome player ive meet him many times cause im from s.a hes hell nice and easy going doesnt he play for lloyla or something but anyway i dont think adam sear will make it i really dont like him he is to up himself but thats just my opinion plus abit fo a ball hog from what ive seen in the games ive played against him, but thats just my though
p.s what college did Wes play for

[horney4lax]

Adelphi College and hes still there i believe.
The MLL is full of players who are bbig headed and up them selves, it would suit sear which is why he will make it.

[mrg16]

Regarding Adam Sear: I have played with him and coached him and I think he struggles at times with the fact he is so much better than most of the people in his age group. When he is involved with a Senior team he has a lot more respect for his position and that he has to earn it.

He works harder than any lax player I know.

He is a great leader.

And to boot he made the Inaugural ALL All Star team as a 17 yr old.

He will play in the MLL (if it still exists when he finishes at UMD)

[horney4lax]

why wouldn't it still exist? Lacrosse is the fastest growing sport in america, I dont think it will be folding.

[lacrosselover]

I think anyone on the aussie team right now could play MLL easily....with no exceptions. They are all extremely talented...anyone disagree? and who dont they think could?

[lukeoz]

i would think that the MLL is a very competitive environment with not much separating most of the players, i reckon that maybe only half a dozen aussies would warrant first-team selection, with others being fringe players... of course there may be some who are drafted who will develop their skills a great deal

i am sure that with further expansion of the MLL, and if it becomes established and player salaries increase you will see more non-North Americans try out and be successful for this league

[lukeoz]

would also like to add what people's thoughts are, with being part of a professional team, being a little fish in a big pond, large squad sizes, playing a very specific role and not getting many minutes on the field, if it may have some sort of detrimental effect on a player?

[WHEELAX2]

i would think that the MLL is a very competitive environment with not much separating most of the players, i reckon that maybe only half a dozen aussies would warrant first-team selection, with others being fringe players... of course there may be some who are drafted who will develop their skills a great deal

i am sure that with further expansion of the MLL, and if it becomes established and player salaries increase you will see more non-North Americans try out and be successful for this league


this is very true.. there are a ton of very very capable players in the states who simply refuse to play or refuse to show up to training camp for various reasons.. anyone who thinks more than 75% of this years draftees will show up at camp is a bit misinformed. For whatever reason, there seems to be hundreds of players who don't even enter themselves in the draft (all who are more than capable of making a MLL team).

[zeplax19]

Cameron Adams who is Jen Adams brother is a senior is a senior in college and hes aussie

[lukeoz]

well I guess because so many top lacrosse players come from blue-ribbon academic institutions they will probably do much better for themselves in following a non-athletic career

[PilotShinjiIkar]

well I guess because so many top lacrosse players come from blue-ribbon academic institutions they will probably do much better for themselves in following a non-athletic career

Any english MLL possibilities? You guys have had lax as long as the down under boys, maybe longer I think. Organized modern lax has been around for 140 years and you guys have had it close to 100, time to churn out some All Stars.

[endoftheline]

if adam sear is good enough to make an alternate for the aussie team at 18(?) that puts him in good stead of playing mll.

[thunder_15]

we someone list all the current aussie players playin mll. i noe peter inge, dennis julleff, matt shomburg and john t. is that it or am i missing someone

[cannon]

That is all for the moment. It wouldn'y surprise me to see one or two more soon though.

[wittyno12]

we someone list all the current aussie players playin mll. i noe peter inge, dennis julleff, matt shomburg and john t. is that it or am i missing someone


Matt Shomburg in the MLL?

[cannon]

witty,

yeah he played one or two games. i cant see him playing much more.

[thunder_15]

i think hes sorta like a coach. read that hes 'helping out in the face-off' which i think hes yeah sorta coachin. but yeah hes played a little. i would wanna see him play a couple. but yeah hes definatly only a fogo

[laxpigmi2005]

I know for a fact that Wes Green is playing MLL because i went and saw a game that he played in alongside Jalbet and a few others for the LI Lizards. I think he still finishing off his College degree for Adelphi but im sure he will play MLL after that... or come home haha.

JT has not yet played MLL and i dont think he will till future years because he is having trouble getting a Visa for the USA.

Reggie wont play MLL, i think he is back home.

Searsy has a very good chance of playing MLL and i think he will.

I think alot of the Aussies could play MLL but i dont think they have the want too.

[endoftheline]

yeh that's a fair point because how many people are going to risk everything by giving up their careers and moving their family and stuff. It's a different situation for the younger players.

[Hockeylax37]

Brendan Mundorf is playing for the Outlaws in the MLL, and he played for the Australian team just recently, he came out of the NCAA system through UMBC though. From what i've seen though he's a pretty good player.

[dougm]

i want mundorf for the nll - he has the attitude and the skill.
gordon pudie was a respected player in the old mill w/ the ny saints - he was like paul cantabene before there was cantabene.

[pumba]

What about Jason Brammel?

Just putting it out their as he is at collage in the states (Limestone). Anyone think he has a chance at getting drafted for MLL?

[cannon]

probably too early to go that far pumba...let the bloke get a good uninterrupted season of college under his belt first.

certainly a good player though

[sandgroper_lax]

there are alot of players from wa who certainly have a chance of playing m.l.l, adam sear and gareth allen (both set to play for maryland in 2006-2007) to name a few. adam's a great young player with a good head on his shoulders and gareth has been by far the most dominant attackmen in this years w.a.l.a div 1 competition. playing at umd should do those 2 some good! i've heard ben newman isnt too bad either!

[cannon]

sandgroper, sear, newman...perhaps....gareth allen, not likely...mll is a speed game, and unless the terps turn him into a sprinter in the off season he's going to be way too slow...which is not to say he's a bad player, i just think that most aussie players who will ahve a chance in the MLL are going to be speedy/excellent athletes by virtue of the fact that our skills just arent on a par with the US across the board

-case in point Dennis Juleff, great shot, great size, but not very nimble or fit and has thus struggled to maintain an MLL spot

[wa_laxin_22]

cannon,
i play div.2 lax in wa n havent had the chance to play against garreth but have watched a few of his games this year and i would have to say speed isnt really a problem for him, his acceleration is good (not excellent but definitely not slow) and over the length of a full field would think he'd be one of the quicker players in w.a, maybe would be more suited to a midfield role

[sandgroper_lax]

wa_laxin_22 (who are you and who do u play for?)
ive played against gareth thru juniors and a bit in seniors and have to agree that speed isnt a problem for him, ive seen him make some good w.a defenders look stupid BUT HOWEVER he does make some bad decisions on field...agree with the midfield comment but wouldnt move him from attack too soon (has scored 24 goals in last 5 games)...has prob the hardest shot in w.a on both hands...poss m.l.l prospect but agree with cannon, it will take some work

[thunder_15]

sandgroper, sear, newman...perhaps....gareth allen, not likely...mll is a speed game, and unless the terps turn him into a sprinter in the off season he's going to be way too slow...which is not to say he's a bad player, i just think that most aussie players who will ahve a chance in the MLL are going to be speedy/excellent athletes by virtue of the fact that our skills just arent on a par with the US across the board

-case in point Dennis Juleff, great shot, great size, but not very nimble or fit and has thus struggled to maintain an MLL spot
I agree. nah i dont recon gareth has wat it takes to play mll

[Creaseman]

I know Gareth (I'm at the same club) and he's an alright bloke...but as a midfielder... lol...lol...lol... hahahahaha

Sorry....no way as a middie....

Cannon - Speed isn't that bigger issue for him he has it..and makes some of our yanky long poles who come from D1 schools ordinary at times...

[piglet]

Garath is going to sit on the bench. He will not get a run at Maryland.
Adam Sear will do well.

[sandgroper_lax]

Piglet - I agree, I think Sear will get good time at Maryland but I think Gareth will get more then Sear. Remember, they will both be freshmen even though Adam is 17/18? and Gareth is 21. And although Adam is a great young player, I think Gareth still out-does him for speed, strength and general gameplay. Adam plays well in a team that is playing well, but Gareth can turn games around by himself... creasemen, div.1 or div.2 or juniors?

[cannon]

sandgroper,

Firstly, how could Gareth be a Freshman? He's already used at least one season of eligibility at Drexel has he not?
I disagree with you here about playing time mate (apologies). I have just come back from the states and my team played against UMD. I dont think either of them will see much field if any field time (though I hope they do). I mean really, Ardossi is/was a much better credentialled player than either of the WA boys and though injured hardly saw any time last season. I think you underestimate how tough it can be to crack these teams lineups.

[aussielax]

sandgroper,

Firstly, how could Gareth be a Freshman? He's already used at least one season of eligibility at Drexel has he not?
I disagree with you here about playing time mate (apologies). I have just come back from the states and my team played against UMD. I dont think either of them will see much field if any field time (though I hope they do). I mean really, Ardossi is/was a much better credentialled player than either of the WA boys and though injured hardly saw any time last season. I think you underestimate how tough it can be to crack these teams lineups.

He redshirted at Drexel and didn't play a single game didn't he? So that means he should still have 4 years of eligibiltiy left.

And are the rumors that Ardossi will not be returning to UMD next season that i have been hearing true?

[cannon]

aussielax,

cool, thanks for that..i didnt know he redshirted. good luck to him.

About Ardossi, im not sure what the situation is. He certainly had a rough year with injury so I hope he has a chance to have a good crack at it this season. It would be pretty sweet to have 3 Aussies on the team plus one on the womens team and Jen Adams as the new coach.

Back on Topic, I think Kim Delfs would be a decent chance after his performance at the Worlds.

[sandgroper_lax]

Cannon - will you be returning to georgetown?

Rumour has it Ardossi's scholarship has been cut for disciplinary reasons...but that could just be rumour

kim delfs - good player, big potential

[chief lax 21]

cameron walker - absolute gun, went through few tough years with health and injuries atop of raising a family but has dominated div. 1 this year, great player to play with and sees the field like no other player ive played with, has a **** load of potential if he can keep healthy

[craigo]

about the possible mll guys from australia:

Gareth is quick, strong and works his butt off in the gym and at practice. He is dominating WALA div 1 atm, and has an absolute howitzer of a shot. (I play goalie for his club so i experience it every day). I agree with his occassional lapses in decision making, but i think with 3-4 years at UMD under his belt this will improve and make him a force to be reckoned with.

Adam Sear is a freak. For a 18yo he is unbelievable. his all round game is just as good if not better than most of the guys 10 years his senior. He will come back from UMD a sensational player, and a huge asset to his club, state and country.

Cam Walker... what can i say. The things he has gone through for lacrosse are amazing. He played for the u19's while starting a young family and having serious back injuries. He could still do anything he wants in lacrosse, and watch out for him in the future.

[chief lax 21]

I play attack in the same line as cam walker for club lax and ive never played with someone who can run an offense quite like him... great vision, always finishes well, works his *** off and never asks for anything in return, great team player who can do anything he sets his mind to as is the case with the entire walker family

[Creaseman]

Sandgroper I Play D2.

And Yes Gareth was red shirted at Drexel so still has 4 yrs of lax ahead of him.

[wolves_lax 11]

sandgroper,

Firstly, how could Gareth be a Freshman? He's already used at least one season of eligibility at Drexel has he not?
I disagree with you here about playing time mate (apologies). I have just come back from the states and my team played against UMD. I dont think either of them will see much field if any field time (though I hope they do). I mean really, Ardossi is/was a much better credentialled player than either of the WA boys and though injured hardly saw any time last season. I think you underestimate how tough it can be to crack these teams lineups.

in regards to adam sear getting playing time. i agree it would be crazy to crack the teams. i mean they have what like 40 guys on a team. 10 on the field. gotta be tough to get a spot. but with saying all that i think he will see a fair bit of time on the field. maybe not soo much in his first year if he heads over. UMD has given him a full athletic scholarship. something they rarely give to guys in the US let alone someone from here down under or anywhere else in the world for that matter. so the coaches must see something they like and want to be apart of the team. and i think he has the dedication to make it happen when he heads over.

i mean he was by far a standout first year of playing the ALL and he was only 16. and some say was unlucky to make the Aussie team for Canada. pretty big achievements for a guy that is only 18.

[SwRLaX10D]

Matt Shomburg in the MLL?
he was in the MLL last year for I think one game. Now, he's on the Lizards coaching staff as a face-off instructor helping with Peter Vlahakis

[12345]

Gary only has 2 years to play - once you red shirt you have 5 years to play 4 seasons of NCAA. I was going to defend him when I saw him getting bagged but looks like the other Chiefs boys have beaten me to it =p

[cannon]

I dont know that anyone was bagging him 12345. But I just dont have him (as yet) at the top my list of Aussie guys who could play MLL. If its true he's going to UMD then he's clearly quite talented!

[laxpigmi2005]

What about Jason Brammel?

Just putting it out their as he is at collage in the states (Limestone). Anyone think he has a chance at getting drafted for MLL?


Not a chance in hell.

[pumba]

Not a chance in hell.

And you are...

[aussielax]

And you are...

Common pumba you have been around TLF long enough to know most users like to keep their real identities secret.

[chief lax 21]

Aussielax,
I agree with you in the fact i don't think Brammel will play m.l.l. After playing against him in u/15 & u/17 nationals plus the a.l.l past 2 years, i don't really rate him as a player and have found him to be quite overrated at times HOWEVER to say "not a chance in hell" is a bit far. you never know how players develop when playing n.c.a.a lacrosse and although i haven't seen him play for a year, i know he has a pretty strong work ethic and it wouldn't surprise me at all if his game improved dramatically while at limestone... but based on the last time i saw him play, prob a long shot at playing m.l.l.

[pumba]

Yeah it was a very big call. I was just putting his naem out as he is in the states. If he is going to get a game i dont see it being anytime soon but it may happen who knows.

But by saying "Not A Chance In Hell" Thats a big call.

Are you over in the states at collage?

[chief lax 21]

who was that question directed at pumba?

[pumba]

Laxpigimi2005

[laxpigmi2005]

who are you?

[pumba]

Brendan Freeman Eltham Under 17s wear number 7

Also play div2 wear number 1

http://www.sportingpulse.com.au/team_info.cgi?player=Brendan%20Freeman&action=PSTATS&pID=129200786&client=1-1064-0-43096-4552250

Theie ya go anymore information?

Who are you?

[laxpigmi2005]

Jules Hyde, MCC State League, wear number 6.

anymore information?

[pumba]

Nope happy now

[laxpigmi2005]

haha sweet!.. so what else is goin on?

you go to the world games?

[cannon]

http://www.nll.com/article.php?id=313

As a related point Wes Green just got drafted by the San Jose Stealth of the NLL

Good luck to him.

[suga0108]

has any one thought about kim delfs

[snake]

has any one thought about kim delfs

From the way he played at the worlds, I think he would slot in to an MLL team quite easily.

[12345]

If Kim Delfs learned to shoot hard he'd probably be a good player...

[cannon]

12345...though i suspect you are talking in jest, you should watch the highlight vids on the e-lacrosse site. kim lets some rockets go and puts quite a few in btw.

[mrg16]

12345...have you been drinking Johnnie Walker and "Cola" again?

[pumba]

Bahh To many of them last night not feeling the best now

[12345]

12345...though i suspect you are talking in jest, you should watch the highlight vids on the e-lacrosse site. kim lets some rockets go and puts quite a few in btw.

Yes I've played against him here in WA and was indeed speaking in jest, not only is his shot awesome (such a quick release) but his stick skills are a level above most other guys going around as well.

[aussielax]

Mod edit: Removed statement unless backed up with fact

Do you know that for a fact? Or are you just asuming the rumor is true?

[liamlax]

if adam sear is good enough to make an alternate for the aussie team at 18(?) that puts him in good stead of playing mll.

i play in the same club as adam and im sure that next year or somehting hes going over to the states to play college at maryland or something, so you wont be seeing him in MLL for a while

[cannon]

Pete Inge got left off the SF Dragon's protected list. I wonder what that means for his immediate MLL career? I hope he gets re-drafted by someone.

Wes Green was 'protected' by The LI Lizards but don't be suprised if he gets traded out west to match up with his NLL draft team San Jose.

[piglet]

Petes tired. He has had enough lax for awhile. He is a bit burnt out. You cannot get rich playing on the MLL particularly in San Fran its really expensive. Time to get on with his life & move on.

[swankylaxer]

Has any one thought about Rob Leguen... I know we haven't seen him in a while.
He has been at Towson U and got a minute of time on the feild last year as a freshman. I believe he is transfering to NYIT in order to get more game time. Last time he was back in Aus he had put on a stack of weight and believe he has put on more again. He had great stick skills before leaving Aus and was very quick.

What do you think?

[cannon]

Rob is a tremendous athelete and has a great work ethic. I watched the 2006 NCAA final with him. Haven't heard about NYIT. But very few freshman see much field time swanky.

If he keeps on doing what he's doing he'll go very far.

It's not hard to imagine why ingey is tired. Too much lax takes the fun out of it.

[chaddylax]

Ben Newman for sure, an absolute freak. Will play for aus in 2010 and get drafted to th MLL.

[cannon]

That's if he ever plays lacrosse again chaddy. He is a freak but if you want to watch him you best be watcing the ALL 2006. He's playing football next year.

[Warriors26]

Pete Inge got left off the SF Dragon's protected list. I wonder what that means for his immediate MLL career? I hope he gets re-drafted by someone.

Pete is retired from mll he is staying in aus and playing back at woodville helping develop players he is also finding it tough going to the states for such a short time and leaving everyone behind especially g/f and family and he never had a place of his own over there either

[lax.com.au]

Perhaps pete feels obliged to return since woodville missed out on finals this year, for the frist time i can ever remember.....

[piglet]

We need Pete to rest up & recharge his batteries. Australia needs a few more World Games out of this great player. If Gait can play till nearly 40 way can't our stars!
We may need to be a little less demanding on them between World Games though.

[Warriors26]

Perhaps pete feels obliged to return since woodville missed out on finals this year, for the frist time i can ever remember.....

Thats a bit rough i think woodville lacked more from losing Aaronn Sargent in goals. we struggled at the start of the season with no experienced keeper and only missed finals on count back being argubly the strongest team in the comp. And Inge plays a lot more of a strenuous style of game play then gait as he plays up and down the field a lot. A bare minimum of one more world games

[Hally]

do u really want them playin till then what about giving the younger guys ago. gait was only there cause he is GAIT and he pretty much owns lacrosse in canada. if the aus old guys can still out play the younger guys i agree they should still be there but if not.

[snake]

Thats a bit rough i think woodville lacked more from losing Aaronn Sargent in goals. we struggled at the start of the season with no experienced keeper and only missed finals on count back being argubly the strongest team in the comp. And Inge plays a lot more of a strenuous style of game play then gait as he plays up and down the field a lot. A bare minimum of one more world games

How come Aaronn Sargent didn't play?

[Warriors26]

How come Aaronn Sargent didn't play?


From what i know he has hooked up with an old flame who doesnt like him playing lacrosse so he chose her over the sport. i think being picked as a alternate in the aussie team killed him he was the 2nd best goalie last all behind the all australian

[aussielax]

How come Aaronn Sargent didn't play?


From what i know he has hooked up with an old flame who doesnt like him playing lacrosse so he chose her over the sport. i think being picked as a alternate in the aussie team killed him he was the 2nd best goalie last all behind the all australian

Well that would be the 2nd time he was pretty crushed after he didn't make the 02 team and he went into the lax wilderness for a while after that so we will have to see if he makes it back this time.

[lukeoz]

don't rule out another ronnie comeback... we'll have to nickname him lazarus

[cannon]

http://www.majorleaguelacrosse.com/news/index.html?article_id=425

Article on Pete Inge retiring.

[Shooter McGavin]

Hey Whip ... thanks for the vote of confidence in the cage this year mate ha ha, I'm glad I'll be back in the attack line next year and not in the cage.