Little known bands/songs

[mdawg]

what are some little known bands or songs by those bands that you think people should listen too. include genre as well.

Matt Pond PA- Acoustic Rock/Light Rock
-Lily Two
-KC
-The Butcher


Aaron Hale- Acoustic
-Baby on more time
-Say your goodbyes

Carbon Leaf- Light Rock
-Life less ordinary

Citizen Cope- Rock
-Bullet and a Target
-Suns Gunna Rise

Downpilot- Acoustic/Piano
-True

Rouge Wave- Rock
-Kicking the Heart Out

Thats all i got right now, i may post more

[GCdorman40]

My Getaway (rock/powerpop/indie) - i love all there songs
check them out at pure volume
www.purevolume.com/mygetaway

[moondog]

Rap--Deltron

I'd consider Ween a little-known band, and they defy genres--they can do anything and pull it off. Some punk, some pop, some country, some international. I suppose I'd call it parody-music. But they are seriously good. One of those bands where "everybody will like a handful of their songs, no matter who you are"

Santa Cruz Hemp All-Stars--improvisational/jam music. 2 members of STS9, and some guys from Disco Biscuits, and some other bands come together for this group. No songs--all they do is improvise, and it sounds freaking amazing. Drummer and horn player are phenomenal.

[Frndlefire]

I've been on a post-rock kick so:

Mogwai
Explosions in the Sky
Mono

are all good bands to look into, Mogwai is brilliant.

[longsticklax124]

Hip hop-
Atmosphere
Wrekognize
Sage Francis
Matisyahu- kind of reggae/ Hip hop plus hes a hisidic sp? jew
Mf Doom
Boom Bap Project
Rosevelt Franklin
Grayskul
Busdriver
Free speech
Blue Print
Improve logic just to name a few

[WHEELAX2]

Agony Hill

www.agonyhill.com

[justlaxin484]

slightly stoopid- i dno what to call it, i guess alternative
-mellow mood
-colle-man
-everything you need
-officer
(just to name a few, almost all of their songs are good. the only cd i didnt really like of theirs was The longest barrel ride)

[Viperlaxer132]

Keller Williams

Some songs you can listen to are:
Freeker by the Speaker (http://kellerwilliams.net/mp3/Freeker.mp3)
Breathe (http://kellerwilliams.net/mp3/breathe.mp3)
Love Handles (http://www.madisonhousepublicity.com/downloads/kw.downloads/Home/love_handles.mp3)

www.kellerwilliams.net

Genre - I don't know but I love it

[WHS Lax]

ne thing by Peabody Junction

[gigo567]

The Rolling Stones (joking)

Um...I think a lot of people have heard of the Arcade Fire but if they haven't then that is my choice.

So I don't know any little known bands.

[FallIntoIt]

Hip hop-
Atmosphere
Wrekognize
Sage Francis
Matisyahu- kind of reggae/ Hip hop plus hes a hisidic sp? jew
Mf Doom
Boom Bap Project
Rosevelt Franklin
Grayskul
Busdriver
Free speech
Blue Print
Improve logic just to name a few

Hahah, you sound like a typical playlist at my campus radio station.

p.s. If you dig MF Doom, look into Dangerdoom. It's MF Doom and DJ Dangermouse's collaboration.. they're also the brains behind Aqua Teen Hunger Force, heh.

[wickedlaxer4]

POCKET BOMB

local band

best song- peaance freeance





purevolume.com/pocketxbomb (http://purvolume.com/pocketxbomb)

[skip0l]

slightly stoopid and keller williams fall along the same lines as Pepper, NOT unknown

big head todd and the monsters
- secret mission
- riveria
-bittersweet*************
Toad the Wet Sprocket
- something's always wrong
- desire

NOT YET WINTER
rock based out of coastal carolina university, awesome show

-dont fade

[laxkay841]

All of these are Rock, Alternative unless specified otherwise.

The Fray
(even though I heard one of their songs on the radio the other day and nearly freaked out)
-Over My Head (Cable Car)
-How to Save a Life

Augustana
-Stars and Boulevards
-Hotel Roosevelt
-Sunday Best
actually any of their songs are pretty good...

Kisschasy
-Anger is the Brand New Thing

Jack's Mannequin
-The Mixed Tape

JamisonParker
-Best Mistake
-Your Song

Paramore
-Pressure
(Female singer, not a bad song)

Days Away
-God and Mars

The Exit
-Don't Push

Vendetta Red
-Silouhette Serenade

Head Automatica
-Beating Heart Baby

The Spill Canvas
-All Hail the Heartbreaker



Other Bands:
Panic! At the Disco (Rock, has a bit of a techno feel)

Pepper (Rock, but with a sort of Reggae feel)


Louis XIV (uh interesting...lyrics, but really good beats)

Breaking Benjamin (I guess you could consider them metal, but it really doesn't seem metal to me)

Paulson



Annnd that's all I can think of right now, if I think of any more I'll let you all know.

[laxkay841]

slightly stoopid and keller williams fall along the same lines as Pepper, NOT unknown

big head todd and the monsters
- secret mission
- riveria
-bittersweet*************Toad the Wet Sprocket
- something's always wrong
- desire

NOT YET WINTER
rock based out of coastal carolina university, awesome show

-dont fade



Other good songs by Big Head Todd and the Monsters are "Resignation Superman" and "Please Don't Tell Her".


Just thought of another artist:
Jonny Lang (blues)
most of his songs are really good...

[punkerdude123]

Patent pending - ska
hopesfall - rock/hardcore(sort of)
Folly - rock/ ska
Hidden In Plain View - screamo
hardcore
As I Lay Dying
It Dies Today
Roses Are Red
Eighteen Visions
Terror
Open Hand

catch 22 - ska

[FallIntoIt]

Hahaha. As I Lay Dying. The required hardcore band if you're into scene.

Check it, I got the scene mullet, black with piss blonde, you know. I rock the so-tight-they're-painted-on pants and As I Lay Dying Shirt. Oh yes.

Actually, if I did, Mavido would probably wet himself.

[laxgod1790]

Actually, if I did, Mavido would probably wet himself.

Probably, I love to see his all caps freak outs on people who make fun of emo kids.

[pole15]

Frndlefire knows what he's talking about ... Check out www.temporaryresidence.com which is the label for Mono, Explosions in the Sky (as Frndlefire mentioned), and others like Nice Nice, Eluvium, and Tarentel.

Also, Godspeed You Black Emperor is amazing, comparable to Explosions in the Sky ... more experimental stuff includes Squarepusher and Autechre.

My Bloody Valentine is sick, and Sonic Youth is the revolutionary band that brought underground alternative to the mainstream ...

Any of the mentioned bands are definitely worth a look.

[Dan]

I like what you have to say. GSY!BE is amazing, and that post-rock stuff is killer when you're in the mood for it. Count Sigur Ros among them too.

My Bloody Valentine is sweet, and I've been listening to Daydream Nation from Sonic Youth recently. Got Loveless fairly recently as well.

Um, recently for me I've been abusing my stereo with The Walkmen, Wolf Parade, Sufjan Stevens and um, The Arcade Fire and Broken Social Scene. Also The Shins. If you check out those bands/artists, you'll be happy. Bro.

[Lacrosstitute]

Ween is so awesome I cant even stand it.

He Is Legend
-The Seduction
-Either they Decorated for Christmas Early or they're all Dead
-Eating a Book

He Is Legend is really cool. I've been listening to them a lot lately, I dont really know how to describe them. They just play.

As I Lay Dying and Unearth are the friggin bossest metal bands out right now. Around here they're pretty popular, I'm sure a few of you guys know who they are.

[Lax101]

Averi
-Native Boston, MA band.
-3 albums out, their most recent being "Drawn to Revolving Doors"
- www.averimusic.com
-"For Better or Worse", and "When You Gracefully Creep In" are two of their more popular songs.
-They're a rock-pop'ish band, so there stuff isn't extremely deep or original...but, the songs are all well written, good instrumentals, and they're plain out catchy. I myself am often a music snob, but I do admit that these guys are legit.
-They were rated as Boston's most promising local band in several newspapers.

[lzlax09]

www.jeborgenmusic.com

[PhilWings24]

From Autumn to Ashes
The Album Leaf (very, very good electronica-ish)
Alexisonfire (fairly big in canada)
Fall of Troy (ridiculously good)
All That Remains (by far the heaviest of all these bands)
Moneen
.....i could go on forever, buit i'm hungry. maybe more later.

[aussielax]

behind crimson eyes - http://www.behindcrimsoneyes.com/main2.php
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=17408 - to listen to some of there stuff
for those who like - the used, story of the year, my chemical romance

kisschasy - http://www.kisschasy.com/
for those who like - taking back sunday, underoath

After The Fall - http://www.afterthefall.com.au/
go to media and there are some songs and vids
for those who like - Amber Pacific, Matchbook Romance

I Killed The Prom Queen - http://www.ikilledthepromqueen.com/Home.asp
go to music to listen to some tracks
For those who like - Atreyu, Killswitch Engage, Evergreen Terace

bodyjar - http://www.bodyjar.com.au/
go to multi media for tracks
for those who like - millencolin, pulley

gyroscope - http://www.gyroscope.com.au/
for those who like - the get up kids, brand new

The Casanovas - http://www.thecasanovas.com.au/home.html
audio to get tracks
for thosw who like - the hives, the donnas, queens of the stone age

Shihad (a.k.a pacifier) - http://www.shihad.com/home.htm
downloads to get tracks
fot those who like - grinspoon, foo fighters, queens of the stone age.

And some other recomendations:

A Gead Giveaway(punk/emo)
-Break Away
-I'm Nobody

The Black Maria(punk/emo)
-Betrayal
-Mirrors and Camera's

Atmosphere(hip-hop)
-National Discrace
-Bam
-Trying to find a balance

DJ format and Abodminal
-Sperated at birth
-3 feet deep
-Viciuos Battle Raps

[ablaxgoalie4]

Northstar, amazing little known band from Alabama. Unfortunately they broke up but their still very good. Singer/Guitarist and lead guitarist are in a new band called cassino. They have a myspace so check that out too. Cassinos a bit more "chill".

[UNCdefense]

alright, these bands are little as far as i know, ive been majorily wrong about this before so dont go crazy on me if i am again:
O.A.R. (any songs)
Bloc Party - helicopter
COheed & Cambria
Dark Embrace
Hawthorne Heights
Now I don't think this is right but my bro has the group written down as slash?

since i love you guys so much, if anyone's looking for some music PM me, cause you can send songs through direct connections on AIM

[spartacus9]

These are just a few great "underground" bands:
Of Montreal- their own (in other words, no one knows)
Cursive- alternative & punk
Iron & Wine- indie
pedro the lion- indie
Bright eyes- indie
The Fiery Furnaces- alternative or otherwise
Flaming Lips- I have no clue
Red light school district- rock, local band opened for the killers many times

[FallIntoIt]

I wouldn't consider Of Montreal to be alt rock, more like synthpop. Along the same lines of Peachcake.

You want a great band to listen to, check the Format. I don't know if they're big around the country, but they're huge in Arizona (local boys, y'know). Also a local band in AZ that I adore, Army of Robots. Sounds like a ska name, but they're kind of alt rock, for extreme lack of a better genre-label

[Dan]

I'd put Fiery Furnaces in the Hyperprog category. Crazy stuff. Still don't like Blueberry Boat, but I'm working on it. Listened to it like 8 times. Um, My brother just brought home Clap Your Hands Say Yeah! so I'm getting that today, and some other sizzick stuff. Wilco, they're good.

[FallIntoIt]

Oh man. Clap Your Hands And Say Yeah! seems to be in constant rotation at the radio station I work at. I hate them.

[spartacus9]

If you want a local band from AZ then look on myspace for De Capulet. I think they have a link to red light s.c.

[FallIntoIt]

If you want a local band from AZ then look on myspace for De Capulet. I think they have a link to red light s.c.

hahahh, oh God. They're friends with a friend of mine from the radio station.

That's hilarious that you mentioned them.

[Dan]

If I heard CYSHY! at my radio station, I'd be psyched. They play crap. I hate my radio station. So I don't listen to it at all. Also just got Deerhoof's Milk Man, and it's purty good. I recommend at least the first 3 songs, because that's all I've listened to since I got it late last night. Um, RJD2 is really good. Way to go hip-hop. Same with DJ Shadow. RJD2 wishes he was as good as DJ Shadow.

[FallIntoIt]

That's funny you said Deerhoof, because that's another band on our playlist I dislike.

As a side note - I work at my college campus radio station. If it's obscure, we play it.

I must say, I've gotten quite attached to Ladytron and Sigur Ros, especially "Hoppipolla" by Sigur Ros. And Wolf Parade and the Exit are new on my list.

[tkdlaxer]

screamo, metalcore.

-mason. ne thing by them its very good

[spartacus9]

If I heard CYSHY! at my radio station, I'd be psyched. They play crap. I hate my radio station. So I don't listen to it at all. Also just got Deerhoof's Milk Man, and it's purty good. I recommend at least the first 3 songs, because that's all I've listened to since I got it late last night. Um, RJD2 is really good. Way to go hip-hop. Same with DJ Shadow. RJD2 wishes he was as good as DJ Shadow.
Amen, brother.

[chslax29]

greeley estates
bedlight For BLueeyes
Flashlight Arcade
rise against
anberlin
halifax
houston calls

Just go to purevolume.com --theyll give the genre and mp3s

[skip0l]

mason what? who? that's my name

[skip0l]

mason what? who? that's my name,
some other ones, are moe., pete francis, josh kelley, jimmie's chicken shack, the o.c. supertones

[franks2089]

catch 22 - ska
Catch 22 is awesome, not sure that they are not well known. But love their songs, fast paced and awesome.

normajean-hardcore
goldfinger-ska (a lot of people have heard of them but a lot still don't know about them)
Sr-71-ska
the mighty mighty bosstones
throwdown

[Laxergirl]

dont know how little known these guys are but started getting into them recently...

virginia coalition- jam band
ZOX- jam band (AMAZING violinist- i know it sounds unusual but theyre really good)
north mississippi allstars- rock

[scruffy221]

go and find

CATCHING THEIVES

if you can

and listen to

DID YOU ENJOY YOURSELF

its such a great song and band

[cbhslacrossemid]

The Black Keys-(Just signed with a major label)
The Decemberists

[Dan]

I've known about Sigur Ros for like, a while. College radio stations? Yes, I can imagine them abusing the new indie kings. Luckily, I have to work to hear anything new. I'm not spoiled with it. I've got 3 Sigur Ros albums, and Agaetis Byrjun, Staralfur, Hoppipolla, Gong, Untitled #7 and 8, Olsen Olsen and Vilvar Vil Til Loftarosa are my favorites. There's a kid a street over that's living here for a year from Iceland. He's seen several Sigur Ros shows and stuff. Yet, the kid is a HUGE Interpol fan. He's cool. I like Interpol. You know what one of my favorite albums is, everybody? The Walkmen - Bows + Arrows. For realz, kids. So good. And Broken Social Scene - You Forgot it in People. See, Fallintoit, I'd have expected that BSS and Wolf Parade, with all of their massive hype, would have been played a lot more on a college radio station than Deerhoof, which is pretty new to me.

[marflax33]

Anyone heard werewolves of london?

[FallIntoIt]

I've known about Sigur Ros for like, a while....And Broken Social Scene - You Forgot it in People. See, Fallintoit, I'd have expected that BSS and Wolf Parade, with all of their massive hype, would have been played a lot more on a college radio station than Deerhoof, which is pretty new to me.


Yeah, they're (Sigur Ros) pretty known amongst the indie kids, but still underground enough to be considered 'little known'.

As for Broken Social Scene ("Anthems For a Seventeen Year Old Girl" off of You Forgot It In People is my favorite song) and Wolf Parade, they're regular fixtures in our playlists, but not so much that it's overwhelming. Deerhoof, however... ungh. And we don't play certain bands completely according to hype - how else would other music get out? Not to mention, it's at the discretion of the music director, who seems to be on a Deerhoof and Clap Your Hands and Say Yeah! kick... and fond of throwing an ungodly number of Radiohead songs in the playlist. If we played according to hype, we'd be playing a lot more ****ing Death Cab.

As an aside - we've got a couple songs from the latest BSS album in heavy rotation right now. I'm still working on getting "Handjobs for The Holidays" added... not so much because I really like the song or anything, but mostly because I'm itching to say that name on air.

[Frndlefire]

Frndlefire knows what he's talking about ... Check out www.temporaryresidence.com which is the label for Mono, Explosions in the Sky (as Frndlefire mentioned), and others like Nice Nice, Eluvium, and Tarentel.

Also, Godspeed You Black Emperor is amazing, comparable to Explosions in the Sky ... more experimental stuff includes Squarepusher and Autechre.

My Bloody Valentine is sick, and Sonic Youth is the revolutionary band that brought underground alternative to the mainstream ...

Any of the mentioned bands are definitely worth a look.
Yes, some's got my back. Temporary Residence is solid, everyone should listen to Mono. I agree with Godspeed, incredible, but I never really got into squarepusher. Kinda just hover around Mogwai a lot.

And I really wouldn't consider Sigur Ros unknown...I've heard them on the radio. Sure, they aren't Radiohead...but I feel like they only dabble in the post-rock genre whereas someone like Mogwai or Slint are a little more the definition.

[GarysGod]

Catch 22 is awesome, not sure that they are not well known. But love their songs, fast paced and awesome.

normajean-hardcore
goldfinger-ska (a lot of people have heard of them but a lot still don't know about them)
Sr-71-ska
the mighty mighty bosstones
throwdown

sr-71 is not ska what so ever, thats like saying blink 182 is ska. The mighty mighty bosstones and catch 22 are semi-mainstream, because you wont see them on mtv or really even the radio, but anybody who likes that type of music will know them.

[BrusMiester67]

richard cheese, he's kinda like wierd Al

[GarysGod]

richard cheese is my hero

[Dan]

Sure, Sigur Ros aren't unknown, but other than post-rock, I guess you could call them atmospheric rock or something. Sort of an offshoot of parts of Radiohead's all-encompassing style. Fallintoit, I'm a major Radiohead fan, so a station that plays them all the time would probably be cool. Handjobs for the Holidays, that's just an amusing name, I know. But wrong hype. I don't mean Rolling Stone or Spin or anything that's really on magazines, I mean the indie hypers, like Pitchfork, Stylus, Tinymixtapes, Popmatters, all the blogs, all that kind of stuff. Most of those places could care less about Death Cab; they were there for The Arcade Fire and all that other stuff in 2004, and this year BSS, Wolf Parade, Kanye West up and down the board everywhere, CLHSY! and New Pornographers, really. Sometimes I buy into the hype. It was worth it for Wolf Parade, though.

[spartacus9]

Yah, Wolf Parade put out a great album this year. I think I'll go listen right now.

[FallIntoIt]

I wasn't referring to hype from the indie kids, but from the listeners. The masses. The bourgeois, if you will. Since that's the business of a radio station, even if they're all for introducing said masses to great unknown bands, the listeners must be drawn in with bands and musicians they already know and have heard the hype over.

[spartacus9]

Another good band is Ozma. I saw them open for Weezer one time. Theyre amazing. Theyre under kung fu records. Kung Fu has had some pretty good bands over the past few years so expect good things from Ozma and Kung Fu's other bands.

[Dan]

Ah. I see. I thought you meant the hype from publications and websites and stuff. Yes, Death Cab is driving me crazy too. My friends are all like, "Ooh, Plans!" and I'm like, "Ooh, I just got nearly 100 Pavement songs!" and their like, "Pavement? What?" Urgh. Pavement's not even that unknown. Heck, Stephen Malkmus put out a good album this year. Pavement was pretty much 3 guys playing what Stephen Malkmus wanted to, if you ask me. The stuff has barely changed.

[spartacus9]

I agree. For those of you who dont know, Pavement is kind of like Mogwai meets Ben Kweller meets Nada Surf.

[SDPirate]

leftover crack- punk
- gang control
- clear channel **** off
- so you wanna be a cop

throwdown-hardcore
-forever

operation ivy-punk
-the crowd
-gonna find you

[franks2089]

sr-71 is not ska what so ever, thats like saying blink 182 is ska. The mighty mighty bosstones and catch 22 are semi-mainstream, because you wont see them on mtv or really even the radio, but anybody who likes that type of music will know them.
oops that was a mistake changed my mind about the band but forgot to change the description

[scruffy221]

if you want to find a lot of good bands that are hardly known go to

www.purevolume.com

it's got a lot of signed and unsigned bands on there

[pole15]

Dan - I like your taste man, it's hard to find people who like good music with all the crap out there these days. Anyway - some others I just thought of include The Stone Roses, Portishead, Dinosaur Jr, Elliot Smith, and Sea and Cake. Elliot Smith is great stuff - not all that unknown but definitely under appreciated. He did a lot of work for the soundtrack of Good Will Hunting (absolutely amazing movie), so if you liked the music that played when Will and Skyler were in bed together, and the last scene when he's driving away, then you like Elliot.

[ExiledinIN]

Connells (Fun & Games)
Guadacanal Diaries (4x4)

[the next 'one']

Reel Big Fish

THRICE (one of the best bands ever)

Skindred

Hot Action Cop

Citizen Cope

Clutch

Crash Test Dummies (this guys voice is crazy)

Diffuser

Hollywood Undead

Lit

The Movielife

Unwritten Law (ish)

[FredtheCat]

alright, these bands are little as far as i know, ive been majorily wrong about this before so dont go crazy on me if i am again:
O.A.R. (any songs)
Bloc Party - helicopter
COheed & Cambria
Dark Embrace
Hawthorne Heights
Now I don't think this is right but my bro has the group written down as slash?

since i love you guys so much, if anyone's looking for some music PM me, cause you can send songs through direct connections on AIM

omglol hawthorneheights.

[ljlax91]

- strung out
- A Wilhelm Scream
- slightly stupid
- haste the day
- pennywise
- rise against
- as i lay dying
- From Autumn To Ashes
- thrice
- unearth
- Skindred

[ekajsk8er]

Anyone heard werewolves of london?

The Warren Zevon song or is that a band?

Rock
-36 Crazyfists (Best Song: Destroy the map, Circle the Drain)

Metalcore
-Bullet for my Valentine (Hand of blood)
-God Forbid (Antihero, Crucify your beliefs)

Random Metal
-Children of bodom; huge in Europe, not so big here but there not unheard of. (Sixpounder, Needled 24/7, Bodom Beach Terror)
- DRAGONFORCE!!!; Best underground power metal band out there. (Fury of the storm http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=7326510)
This is taking too long to decide on the best songs so I'll just name the rest.
-3 inches of blood-vader-stormtroopers of death-overlorde-pig destroyer-amon amarth-bathory-nevermore-symphony x-messugah-opeth (Mikael Akelferdt is king of vocals in death metal)-blind guardian-nile-napalm death-nightwish


And for the love of christ PORCUPINE TREE.

[lax4life56]

one word DISPATCH. greatest band to come outta massachusetts (next to aerosmith.) they are an amazing jam band that rivals Phish. unfortunatly they broke up, but still check out http://www.dispatchmusic.com/ there last concert was amazing.

[Lax1228]

Some of my favorite local (NC) bands are Jump, Little Children (hilarious) , Dave LaMotte (absoloutely amazing on gutair) and Tamasha (the lead singer is one of my substitute teachers).
I have a lot of friends who are obsessed with Dispatch.

[FredtheCat]

- DRAGONFORCE!!!; Best underground power metal band out there. (Fury of the storm http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=7326510)

And for the love of christ PORCUPINE TREE.

I've been listening to both of those lately, oddly enough.

[FallIntoIt]

Elliot Smith is great stuff - not all that unknown but definitely under appreciated.

He also committed suicide a couple years ago. But I agree, lovely.

[Dan]

Yeah, he sorta started emo, didn't he? At least a style of it, supposedly. Still haven't listened to much. Mainly "Speed Trials" off of Figure 8 or whatever. Dinosaur Jr., that's old stuff. The one song I've heard is called Budge. And I know they're good. I'm thinking about getting into Can and Velvet Underground just for kicks. THEN I'll be the best music geek in school. Beat my indie from 2+ decades ago, hosers! I'm thinkin that old British stuff is good. Not as old as The Beatles. I'm talking like, when Sonic Youth and The Pixies were in their prime. Like My Bloody Valentine, even though they're totally not from Britain at all. Like Scotland or something.

[Frndlefire]

Yeah, he sorta started emo, didn't he? At least a style of it, supposedly. Still haven't listened to much. Mainly "Speed Trials" off of Figure 8 or whatever.
I don't really listen to emo, but I would have to think that Elliott would be pre-emo...just time period wise. It seems to me that emo has only really come into prominance recently (yes, even though punk has been around for a long time). I think a lot of times he just gets written off as making depressing music for depressed people (because of the suicide, drugs, alcohol, etc.) and I'm not saying he wasn't a mess, but as a songwriter I place him very high. It seems like during our parents generation songwriters were lauded much more than they are now and I see Elliott as one of the few prominant songwriters of our time.

[laxdaddy]

JACK JOHNSON!!

[Dan]

I agree. I wouldn't call Elliot Smith emo, just pre-emo, but um, I said that wrong? Anyway, today, I listened to The Shins for like 1.5 hours, and then some other stuff. My sister is watching a TV show about a little boy with a giant tumor on his face. He's really gross looking.