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[Warriors26]

Interesting to hear Ricky Ponting on the radio yesterday commenting on Shane Warne, the greatest leg spinner of all time wanting to come back to one day cricket to play in the world cup, he simply put it "Shane cant just rock up and say i want to play in the world cup and expect to play" i know its old and i am 100% behind the sharks but if the team was being picked now and Peter Brown heard one of australia's champion sportsman say that would he still pick Mundorf??? there was a large discussion about this and i think ponting has put it simply what everone was thinking

[tomahawks11]

..........huh......... what is this thread even about.... if its not lacrosse than put it in the open forum

[b-waterlax]

..........huh.........
agreed :WTF: :WTF: :WTF: :WTF:

[Warriors26]

If u dont live in australia or england u wont know who ponting or warne are Australian Cricket Ledgends

[wolves_lax 11]

i think ricky is right. i dont think anyone should be able to just walk into a side on reputation alone. there really is no other spinner that can match shane warnes calibre. i meen the guy spun a ball something near 2 metres (not too sure but omg it went a long way) and got a guy out. the guy is a freak. but that does not give him the right to just walk in and play. the same sorta thing with mundorf. talent cant always get you in alone. u need to be able to fit in with the team and mesh and do what the coaches want you too do.

[thunder_15]

its true, its true

[bluedevil49]

I agree with Wolves that no one can just walk into a team. But how is this related to Mundorf? Maybe I've missed your point, but Mundorf tried out for the team just like everyone else. He may not have done the program from the beginning, but then again, neither did Warren Brown or Leigh Perham.

[lukeoz]

I agree with Wolves that no one can just walk into a team. But how is this related to Mundorf? Maybe I've missed your point, but Mundorf tried out for the team just like everyone else. He may not have done the program from the beginning, but then again, neither did Warren Brown or Leigh Perham.

You have a point there blue devil. In that case maybe the other two shouldn't have been in contention for selection either. I still think the main travesty of Mundorf's selection is that he is not a product of Australian lacrosse and so in my humble opinion is not a valid contender for Australian representation. And it's a cop-out to our own perception of the quality of our home-grown talent. But I've moaned about this before and he's not going to be unselected. I just hope Lacrosse Australia don't continue this practice for future world cups.

[Corduroy]

Good talk Luke!

At least Wazza and Leigh have played at National and I'ntl levels previously. They've played for many years and contributed to their clubs and states. Mundorf being picked is tantamount to Brian Lara being picked to bat at # 3 for Australia if he defected from the Windies. It's bloody un-Australian and the natives wouldn't have a bar of it.

[lukeoz]

To give another analogy Corduroy I'd like to mention the case of Andy Symonds (to all you North Americans another cricketer!!). He was born in England but his family moved to Australia when he was two years old. Ten years ago he turned down what probably would have been certain selection for the English team during their time of inconsistency, even though the Australian team was reaching the peak of its powers, because he wanted to play for Australia, his adopted country but the country where he learnt to play cricket and had played it all his life. He was on the fringe of the Australian team for so long, but was given an opportunity to play in the last cricket world cup due to injury to other first-choice players. To his credit played a superb innings with probably his last role of the dice, and is now a mainstay of the national one-day cricket team.
Anyway my point is that even though he was born in England he is a product of the Australian system and because of that, IMHO, is a valid representative of the Australian team.

[UKLaxFan]

I hope Australia don't pick Shane Warne for the ODI games because I'm English. If it wasn't for Warney the Aussies would have been hammered in the Ashes this summer.

He is an absolute legend and a great sportsman as well, winning and losing with grace. He got voted the International Sports Personality of 2005 in the UK for the way he played and conducted himself, he never gave up whatever the situation and performed miracles.

As for selecting Brendan Mundorf, shouldn't you want to pick the best players you can?

A number of International teams are selecting players who have come through the US or Canadian system but are elligible by birth to play for their adopted country.

What you should do is only pick players who play for Aussie clubs and ideally have never played any international games or even been abroad, that way you can make sure they are pure Aussies!

Then you can celebrate them being out of the medals for the first time ever when they get back.... I know I would be :nahya:

[i live 4 lax]

isnt this supposed to be the international LACROSSE forum? not baseball, or grasshopper or w/e ur talking about.

[aussielax]

isnt this supposed to be the international LACROSSE forum? not baseball, or grasshopper or w/e ur talking about.

Well this thread is obviousley only understood by international members of TLF, And it would get lost or be full of "dah whats cricket?" posts in the open forum so i think the best place for it is in the international.

[i live 4 lax]

im only going by the rules bud... it says lacrosse not cricket. not trying to flame anyone but forums get messy when ppl post threads in the wrong forum.

[UKLaxFan]

isnt this supposed to be the international LACROSSE forum? not baseball, or grasshopper or w/e ur talking about.
Live4lax

It is about lacrosse!

OK Shane Warne is cricket but the main point was should Mundorf (UMBC) laxer be considered an Aussie lax player as he didn't play for an Aussie team even though he qualifies and has been selected for Australia National Lacrosse Team.

[lukeoz]

if you read from the top it gives an example of someone who is thinking of coming straight into the australian cricket team without being in the squad for a number of years, and using that example to compare it with someone who has never played lacrosse in australia to go straight into the national team... i am sure that if we used that example for a baseball or ice hockey player then it may be more familiar to you but we don't play those sports so much in australia... the international forum is the best place for this discussion because we are talking about the inclusion of someone in the australian lacrosse team, so please just take our word for it!!

anyway, UKLaxfan, i agree we should be picking the best players we can, but i think the eligibility rules are wrong in giving us the opportunity to select someone just on the basis of incidentally having an australian passport, without having being involved in australian lacrosse in any way beforehand
even kevin pietersen had to play county cricket for four years before he could qualify for the english team (north americans please ignore this sentence, or at least first look up kevin pietersen in the wikipedia!!)