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Garor
01-18-2006, 05:43 PM
If these seem like obvious questions, sorry.

Which, if strung the same way, will give a deeper pocket?

And which one is technically monster mesh?

And why do you prefere either one?

LaxBoy92
01-18-2006, 05:44 PM
10D is the goalie version of 5D and 12D is the goalie version of 6D.
I think 10D is monster mesh and 12D is mid-monster mesh.

laxattack8888
01-18-2006, 05:49 PM
Probably 12 <> that's really welll stretched and conditioned before stringing. The extra <> would probably also add some depth.

goalieskcickay
01-18-2006, 05:57 PM
I'd say they're both monster, and 14 is mid-monster.

Anyways, 10D will give you a bigger pocket, at least to my experiance.

AttackMan17
01-18-2006, 06:53 PM
Probably 12 <> that's really welll stretched and conditioned before stringing. The extra <> would probably also add some depth.



Actually, i dont think the extra diamonds add extra depth. Because if you strech apiec of 12d to the limit, an ddo the same to 10d. They should be the same width.

stringinghero
01-18-2006, 07:08 PM
10 d is monster, 12 d is just 12 diamond

goalieskcickay
01-18-2006, 07:12 PM
^^^Yes, but if you had to classify 12d, what would it be? mid-monster or monster?

MClothier
01-18-2006, 07:26 PM
12d would be 12d, if 10d is monster mesh and 14 is mid monster then that would imply that 12d is niether monster or mid monster. and to answer ur question, 10d in my experience gives the same depth as 12d but provides better hold and grip on the ball- i would go with 10d, i have t on my starting stick

laxgod1790
01-18-2006, 08:01 PM
I think that 10d would give a bigger pocket. As soon as you string them they will be the same but I think 10d would break in deeper.

Garor
01-18-2006, 09:05 PM
Thanks guys. I'm glad I'm not the only person who didn't know.

Lax101
01-18-2006, 09:29 PM
Think of common sense here. You have 10D and 12D mesh. 12D has more diamonds, thus more total material. 10D has bigger diamonds in the same size goalie mesh, thus there is less material used. If you have to stretch both pieces of mesh to form a pocket, less work or force is required to stretch 10D, since there is less material. There's simply less mesh required to stretch. Also, since 12D has smaller diamonds and more material, they are more strongly bonded and grouped together, opposed to 10D which has huge, open diamonds.

However, if you reach a point of maximum break-in/stretching, where both meshes have been stretched to their maximum, then there would probably be no difference. This is only a very theoretical idea, since it would take months of playing and usage to reach the maximum stage of break in for each mesh. In fact, you would probably reach a point where the meshes would be so broken in and stretched that they would start breaking and deteriorating, thus weakening the pocket form/size.

You can ignore the 2nd paragraph...the answer is really 10D, since you'll have a bigger pocket faster (see the above reasons), thus giving you a longer time with a deeper pocket. It may take 2 weeks to stretch out a 10D pocket that's 5 balls deep, while it would take 3 weeks for a 12D pocket to reach the same depth (fake numbers here, just a theory).

Hmm...logic and lacrosse...a holy matrimony.

laxgoalieking
01-18-2006, 09:36 PM
Think of common sense here. You have 10D and 12D mesh. 12D has more diamonds, thus more total material. 10D has bigger diamonds in the same size goalie mesh, thus there is less material used. If you have to stretch both pieces of mesh to form a pocket, less work or force is required to stretch 10D, since there is less material. There's simply less mesh required to stretch. Also, since 12D has smaller diamonds and more material, they are more strongly bonded and grouped together, opposed to 10D which has huge, open diamonds.

However, if you reach a point of maximum break-in/stretching, where both meshes have been stretched to their maximum, then there would probably be no difference. This is only a very theoretical idea, since it would take months of playing and usage to reach the maximum stage of break in for each mesh. In fact, you would probably reach a point where the meshes would be so broken in and stretched that they would start breaking and deteriorating, thus weakening the pocket form/size.

You can ignore the 2nd paragraph...the answer is really 10D, since you'll have a bigger pocket faster (see the above reasons), thus giving you a longer time with a deeper pocket. It may take 2 weeks to stretch out a 10D pocket that's 5 balls deep, while it would take 3 weeks for a 12D pocket to reach the same depth (fake numbers here, just a theory).

Hmm...logic and lacrosse...a holy matrimony.
theoreticly yes but physicly whats the piont if 10d giuves u more whip and a slower release?an extra week to get the same pocket but a better release would be much more logical then a quick pocket with a bad release.

Lax101
01-18-2006, 10:06 PM
theoreticly yes but physicly whats the piont if 10d giuves u more whip and a slower release?an extra week to get the same pocket but a better release would be much more logical then a quick pocket with a bad release.
He asked about what gives a deeper pocket, not which release is faster and which is whippier.

Also, "whippy" mesh is a poor excuse for not using a kind of mesh. ANY mesh can have as much or as little whip as you want. There is so much you can tweak to give a desired release. Sidewall style, sidewall tightness, shooter tightness, shooter style, pocket position, pocket depth, pocket channel, etc.

FaceOffMan4
01-18-2006, 11:44 PM
10 better and deeper pocket
12 monstor mesh
10 is da best in my opinion

MClothier
01-19-2006, 12:23 AM
yea like lax101 said, it all depends on the sidewalls- that how a pocket is formed. i have 10d on all my sticks rite now and i have a very very deep low pocket with very little whip- jsut enough to have a nice follow through when throwing

paul8
01-19-2006, 02:49 PM
12 d is more balanced in my opinion, it has a slightly smoother release than 10d but both are pretty similar

nemisis101
05-06-2006, 09:55 PM
They can both be the same if u want them to