John Grant's Mesh

[LaxJax_13]

Could someone please tell me what type of mesh John Grant has in his stick in the the newest issue of Inside Lacrosse. I am not talking about stiffness or size, I am talking about brand.

[Storm21]

yeah i saw that it look nice...i would like to know to

[leftwonder2]

was it in the december one? it looks nice,

[WHEELAX2]

volume 9 issue 9.. december 2005...

hmm. looks like the STX profile, with regular hard mesh and four hockey lace shooters.. nothing special or out of the ordinary.. just strung and broken in nicely

[LaxJax_13]

Yeah it is in the December issue. I looks like it has a nice braid pattern. It seems familiar but I just can't place it.

[TNlax05]

i noticed that the shooting strings are not all strait and some are weaved diferent to create a channel.

[nemesislax]

My buddy's cousin is Pat O'toole and he always gets to go in the dressing room with the k-hawks. He's become friends with Grant and after the Heritage Cup game last year Grant gave him his stick. It was a perfectly pinched profile with what looked like a prototype howitzer...because it was all black with no writing and didn't even have the harrow grip on it.
The profile had a huge ball stop in it so the ball didn't come out when it was held upside down and it was a really nicely worked in profile. There were 4 shooting strings. The sidewall stringing was something I've never seen before but it was really nice. My buddy is retarted when it comes to stringing so when one of the sidewall strings broke, he would get me to string a new one in it so I really got to take a good look at it. I even stole it from him for a couple weeks and used it at the NDP tournament in syracuse this year. I made all-tournament team with it so it mustve been good.
After the mesh jjust got too beat up to use, we bought some normal jimalax hard mesh and I strung it in the head, copying the exact way Johnny strung it. It turned out pretty much the exact same.

[laxgoalieking]

My buddy's cousin is Pat O'toole and he always gets to go in the dressing room with the k-hawks. He's become friends with Grant and after the Heritage Cup game last year Grant gave him his stick. It was a perfectly pinched profile with what looked like a prototype howitzer...because it was all black with no writing and didn't even have the harrow grip on it.
The profile had a huge ball stop in it so the ball didn't come out when it was held upside down and it was a really nicely worked in profile. There were 4 shooting strings. The sidewall stringing was something I've never seen before but it was really nice. My buddy is retarted when it comes to stringing so when one of the sidewall strings broke, he would get me to string a new one in it so I really got to take a good look at it. I even stole it from him for a couple weeks and used it at the NDP tournament in syracuse this year. I made all-tournament team with it so it mustve been good.
After the mesh jjust got too beat up to use, we bought some normal jimalax hard mesh and I strung it in the head, copying the exact way Johnny strung it. It turned out pretty much the exact same.

pictures? and thats pretty cool so u could like string jr.s sticks for him.

[tomahawks11]

stx profile with soft mesh..... i have no idea what make it is..... its very deep tho

[slinkyspine]

stx profile with soft mesh..... i have no idea what make it is..... its very deep tho
I believe it has been proven its hard mesh.

[LaxBoy92]

stx profile with soft mesh
It looks like hard mesh to me.

[nemesislax]

stx profile with soft mesh..... i have no idea what make it is..... its very deep tho
its not soft mesh....very worked in hard mesh...not from jimalax though im pretty sure.

[tomahawks11]

I believe it has been proven its hard mesh.


when i saw him play he broke his stick and i went down to grab the head.... it was soft mesh then but that was 2 years ago

[destructivelax]

when i saw him play he broke his stick and i went down to grab the head.... it was soft mesh then but that was 2 years ago
u think pros keep the same mesh for two years?

[James]

Is it at all possible that the stick in the picture is not his game stick? because if i was a pro i owuldnt bring my stick to a photo shoot, i would just have them supply one

[LaxJax_13]

Even if it is not his game stick, I still want to know what type of mesh it is. We can infer that it is 10D hard mesh, but what brand? :thinking:

[mustang_lax]

you can't tell by just looking at the mesh. Plus it doesn't matter....10D is 10D

[atacklax]

you can't tell by just looking at the mesh. Plus it doesn't matter....10D is 10D
Soft, Hard, American, Fresh, Catapultion, Rail, there are countless varieties of 10d available. That's like saying, oh Cola is Cola.

Oh yeah, If I had to guess I'd say incredibly well strung and stretched hard mesh.

[redbirds07]

it is his game stick, and he uses the medium hard mesh well worked in, and the head is the profile. i got a good source for that info. :thumbsup:

[LaxJax_13]

Do you know what brand of mesh that is redbird07? After looking at the mesh and comparing it to other company photos, I think it is either Brine or Gait mesh. But, I could be wrong.

[iTaylor_686]

John Grant uses a Stx Profile as his game stick (obviously he cant for MLL) but he uses a Stx Profile with a Harrow box shaft and Stx box mesh strung for NLL. The mesh in the photo is probably the new harrow mesh since he is one of the big dogs at harrow and that mesh looks exactly like harrow mesh. (I compared to my own)

[nemesislax]

he works for harrow and the stick in the pic is a harrow
he uses a profile and the head in the pic is a profile
and i've seen his game stick and the pocket looks identical...except the one i have held did not have the top string done like that. It was just one of those blue with black and white speckle strings that are given in brine mesh kits. It was only strung through a hole once too....not the way we usually do it. It could be brine mesh if it had that top string...not really sure...its really nice mesh though

[tomahawks11]

u think pros keep the same mesh for two years?


no but he had soft mesh back then.... im just posting what i saw

[redbirds07]

nemesislax is your buddy and older guy or a teenage kid? cause my dads an assistant coach for roch and i may have seen him down there.

[redbirds07]

LaxJax_13 i have no idea what kind of mesh it is, im not framiliar with the mesh brands, i usually just buy mohawk mesh.

[nemesislax]

nemesislax is your buddy and older guy or a teenage kid? cause my dads an assistant coach for roch and i may have seen him down there.
hes 16...he's been going to the games forever though. He got to go on for warm-ups when he was younger. We're both from Kingston if that helps.

[LaxJax_13]

I think I-Taylors right, I was looking at my harrow mesh and it looks very similiar and it has the the exact same shooting string design.

[SWIMMOVE]

his sidewalls like look like there doubble sidewalls...

[LaxJax_13]

No the sidwalls are not strung double, they just connect the mesh to the head the same way exept into the sidwall holes.

[SWIMMOVE]

yea i thought that at first too but he never doubbles up the any where on the entire head so i was wondering how he got sutch a deep pocket... and iv never really look at a profile... but where the ties it to the head looks closere together than i would have guessed the holes were

[LaxJax_13]

I think his pocket is that deep because harrow mesh stretches out a whole bunch, because of the way he strung his side walls, and because he worked it in really well.
I was able to get a pocket just as deep when I had catapultion.

[nemesislax]

he gets such a deep pocket because between 3 sidewall holes near the top of the head he manages to squeeze 6 diamonds in there....that gives him a nice deep high pocket. It's hard to explain but its like Orange's giant mesh tutorial where he puts 2 diamonds between each sidewall hole. Grant just adds another diamond and he does this twice in a row near the top for that deep high pocket. The rest of the pocket is strung somewhat tight to keep the ball in that high spot and since he has the huuuge ballstop, the ball won't roll out that way.

[LaxBoy92]

How can you even tell his pocket is deep by the angle of that photo?

[rellgood]

i will end all frsutrations the mesh he uses is not hard mesh at all it is debeer soft mesh. where i work has a bit of it in stock and it holds the ball amazing even when it is broken in it rarely begins to hook. i swear by my life that it is debeer soft.

[faceitoff]

I made all-tournament team with it so it mustve been good.

Because we all know that it's the stick.

[laxgoalieking]

Because we all know that it's the stick.
it uh probably was the stick :rofl: jk, and post some pics, nemisis of the pocket please.

[nemesislax]

i will end all frsutrations the mesh he uses is not hard mesh at all it is debeer soft mesh. where i work has a bit of it in stock and it holds the ball amazing even when it is broken in it rarely begins to hook. i swear by my life that it is debeer soft.
ok well straight up....you're wrong
i'll try to get pictures up if i can....the mesh isnt in the head anymore though....and i got some jimalax hard mesh and semi hard mesh then compared it....john grant uses neither of them
and i have debeer soft mesh and i definately know that grant doesnt use that either

[kingdawgell]

maybe john grant weaves his own mesh?

and has the pope bless it to give it soft mesh hold and hard mesh consistency?

[D Bay]

maybe john grant weaves his own mesh?

and has the pope bless it to give it soft mesh hold and hard mesh consistency?

I'll go with that one :thumbsup:

[maxim666]

anyone got close up pictures of his stick?

[laxgoalieking]

grant uses jimalax hard, sold it to em myself.

[maxim666]

so, pictures anyone?

[titans 43]

so does he triple up?

[Dodge UranusOff]

Solid one-YEAR bump but w/e.

[titans 43]

hey we searched :)

[spyopticgoggles]

Soft, Hard, American, Fresh, Catapultion, Rail, there are countless varieties of 10d available. That's like saying, oh Cola is Cola.

Oh yeah, If I had to guess I'd say incredibly well strung and stretched hard mesh.
hes saying you cant tell whether its warrior stx brine jimalax or something else

[faceofflax15]

grant uses jimalax hard, sold it to em myself.
Your friends with just about every Canuck huh? Greer, Gait, Grant, etc...

Cool.

[TbFireStickDoc0]

he just uses warrior hard mesh i know it looks kool

[ABlax4]

can you post pictures of the sidewalls, or pm me some if you have a chance?

[laxgoalieking]

Your friends with just about every Canuck huh? Greer, Gait, Grant, etc...

Cool.
i meet more pros in the time it takes me to walk from the entrance to my seat at any OLA/MSL game then you will in your life.

[RIT37FO]

i meet more pros in the time it takes me to walk from the entrance to my seat at any OLA/MSL game then you will in your life.

what a B.A
:whyme:

[slinkyspine]

LGK we know you didn't sell it to him your self, stop trying to be e-cool... Just cause you meet someone doesn't make them your buddy.


From the pics I have seen it looks like he triples up, and then doubles beneath and above the triple diamond.

[Valaxman17]

so something like 1-2-3-2-1-1-1-1 ? is that what your saying slink?

[laxgoalieking]

LGK we know you didn't sell it to him your self, stop trying to be e-cool... Just cause you meet someone doesn't make them your buddy.


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someones jelous that no big names play in alberta....BTW he ran a camp here couple years ago which i attended.

[LKtlax]

John Grant Jr was at my high schools winter lacrosse camp and when i was close enough to look at his stick it looked like very broken in hard mesh from warrior seemed more like a 1223221 diamond per hole and it was his game stick pinched profile, purple on bottom number 24 in white on the throat and K-HAWKS in white also with a stx zirconium shaft. I figured it was warrior mesh cause it looked like the exact stuff in my stick.

[OldPtboBoy]

Ah hell I'll ask him. Update to follow.

He wont be back in Peterbrorough until Thursday night. I'll post back.

[JazzyJake]

someones jelous that no big names play in alberta....BTW he ran a camp here couple years ago which i attended.
and i attended the umass camp where the SU goalie coach, millon, and some other dudes were at.......doesn't mean they invite me over for wine & cheese once monthly...... :agree:

[MACDADDY]

someones jelous that no big names play in alberta....BTW he ran a camp here couple years ago which i attended.
ooo a couple years ago? now the question is, after you met him, have you been in contact with him? or is it whenever you come up and talk to him he will say "who are you agian?"

just because you meet someone, get their signature, chat with them for a few mins. does not mean you are their friend. if that was the case, id be "friends" with alot of movie stars.

[canesfan38]

post a pic of the stick

[laxgoalieking]

nvm, guess im too cool for you guys...

[livinglegend]

well i have no idea what mesh that was and whatever picture your even talking about. But all i can say is John grant Jr can string a stick better than anyone on this site, and im not talking about all the crazy ones. He can put a stick together in maybe 2 minutes and have it game ready. its unbelivable hell warm up not like whats going on and in between the time it takes the coach to give his speech have all that ripped out and a new bag in there. so i doubt he uses any certain "brand" of mesh hes probly had it all in there

[CPlax19]

I was just with john grant about 1/2 hour ago, im doing a camp that hes at, and i asked if i could look at his stick. Its a pinched cluth, the mesh seemed like eather semi hard or really broken in hard, i wouldnt know where its from because im not that much of the mesh expert, but it was nice mesh. He had a high pocket, i looked at the sidewalls and if i had a cluth i could string one almost exactly a like. He had 4 straights in it.

[faceofflax15]

i meet more pros in the time it takes me to walk from the entrance to my seat at any OLA/MSL game then you will in your life.
That's pushing it. I believe you know a lot of pros, but I do as well. I only constantly talk to Shannon, but I know a few, upwards teens now. And I'll know the entire Machine/Outlaw team by nextweekend, travel team is staying in the same hotel as them, be jealous? Not to mention lockerroom and whatnot. My coach knows everyone.

Yeah, I'm a little excited.

[nemiman18]

he calls it warrior medium mesh

never heard of it so i geuss he gets it up in canada

[destructivelax]

he calls it warrior medium mesh

never heard of it so i geuss he gets it up in canada
ah. so he uses canadian i guess?

[nemiman18]

nope

its like semi hard

[livinglegend]

good 2 go hard mesh is sorta like semi hard mesh and the stuff is absolute money once it breaks in.. get the same consitency of hard mesh with a little more hold ive only seen it in canada though and like i said MONEY. they also make an 8D version which is cool to

[Laxmann019]

http://picasaweb.google.com/MLLphotogallery/MajorLeagueLacrosseWeek3/photo#5075260476803000786
Best pic I can get of it. Seems like semihard or canadian

[DaStringer]

what a B.A
:whyme:
lol hahahah that just made my day
any pics of Grants amazing sticks that could make any living breathnig fool on the planet play amazingly.

[CSlax06]

I dont know bout you guys but I sure wish I still had my profile...

But, could someone scan a pic from the magazine?

[Canadian_Box]

Check this out http://www.lax.com/bimages/1873/1

[kleinlax-75]

so nobody really knows what kind of mesh he uses and it really doesnt matter hes good at lacrosse he doesnt need the mesh to score goals

[vcu_lax20]

look at that photo! and grant never gets stick checked? that pinch looks sooo illegal.

[laxforlife32]

im pretty sure he has a lot more time put into making the perfect pinch than any one of us

[titans 43]

so does anyone actually know the way he strigns it or waht?

[b-boy_laxman]

I dont know bout you guys but I sure wish I still had my profile...

But, could someone scan a pic from the magazine?

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/images/user/nllpreviewcoverbig.jpg


and how come no one has seen that sidewall configuration before?????? i always string my sticks with it and its nothing special.

[RazzMaChazz]

Is it really that important that we know what mesh John Grant Jr uses?

[sidewinder19]

it looks like i have that shooter setup, and i think hes using standard Canadian mesh in the clutch(MLL photo)

[titans 43]

then wtf is the sideall configuration?

[maxim666]

can someone give a 100% on the sidewall configuration?

[laxattack09]

it looks like i have that shooter setup, and i think hes using standard Canadian mesh in the clutch(MLL photo)

what is that shooter setup. they are like behind the mesh

[sidewinder19]

4 straight rolled

[laxattack09]

^^^ eh i don't know they dont look like my shooters. i can see the entire mesh diamond. i mine i can only see three sides. that looks like a bar behind his mesh

[titans 43]

its weaved 4 straight

[Canadian_Box]

I am trying to remake his clutch exactly the same as his picture should be coming soon.
i got the info of a friend of mine that played with Mr.Grant not long ago and is an awesome stringer and memorized his sidewall comfiguration. Im also trying to buy a profile so i could copy his.

[Bretmac]

god guys it doesnt matter how he strings it he could use a bucket and he would still rip back hands into corners but i will give him props hes a great stringer ive seen his profile