[Music]Tupuc, Dead or Alive?

[zanderaruba]

do u guys think tupac is dead or alive? i think he is dead but i know a lot of people that think he is alive. there is also a rumor that if u play one of his songs backwards it says i am coming back. there r also some hidden tracks on his cds i have also heard.

[bloodilax977]

I know it's crazy, but I honestly think he's alive. There are many reasons, but the one that convinces me is his alias name. He was known by many as Makaveli, who was a man famous for writing how pretending you are dead brings happiness and wealth.

[zanderaruba]

I know it's crazy, but I honestly think he's alive. There are many reasons, but the one that convinces me is his alias name. He was known by many as Makaveli, who was a man famous for writing how pretending you are dead brings happiness and wealth.
thats a good reason. i never knew that

[tomahawks11]

and if u re-arrange the letters in makaveli, it respells "i am alive" with an extra k

they also have a picture of him in the paper someone took at a boxing match and it looks EXACTLY LIKE HIM....... tupac is definately alive because no1 else looks like him....

[wilsontopowell]

one of my friends uncles was one of the cops whocame to the scene when tupac was shot, he says he saw the body but i think hes still alive

[ghs/wylax]

and theres a picture of Tupacs autopsy!!! He's dead

[Hackstall]

and if u re-arrange the letters in makaveli, it respells "i am alive" with an extra k

Yeah and missing another "i"

It also spells "I suck" with extra letters and missing a bunch too.

[zanderaruba]

You forgot "I could care less" as one of the responses to the poll.
haha sry i forgot about that

[WickedDpole21]

supposedly the baseline f one of his lesser know tracks is "i am still alive" in morse code.

[ShermanLax607]

Personally I dont care too much but I havent been updated enough to make an educated guess. I would have to say no, because wasnt there a huge thing on this with a body and burial?

Edit: Thanks Enjoi

[NuKoN]

If you don't care, then there wasn't much point to your post..

I think he's dead.

[ramslac05]

hes dead

yea
thats my opinion

[ekajsk8er]

I'm pretty sure he's dead, but there's always that slight chance he is still alive.

[HdGLaxWarrior]

and theres a picture of Tupacs autopsy!!! He's dead

Yeah, I've seen those pictures, but he's looking away. Could be fake.

[enjoi]

1. Stop trolling this thread please
If you don't care, then there wasn't much point to your post..

I think he's dead.
2. Exactly. No reason to post if you don't care.
3. Dead as a doornail.
4. Added to the poll

[MainLax28]

I think he is dead, but it is odd that his estate/whatever you want to call it keeps putting out new tracks every once in a while.

[HdGLaxWarrior]

I've heard that most of them were previously unreleased.

[OutBurst]

"IDGARA." -Robin Williams

[HdGLaxWarrior]

"IDGARA." -Robin Williams

What does that mean?

[laxman359]

supposedly if you play play one of his tracks backward you can hear shugg shot me as in shugg night or knight but i still think hes alive living in Cuba or some third world country making millions

[zak]

You're dumb, don't even bother posting.

Anything to get another post... :thumbsdow
Him, or you?
Either way it doesn't matter. If he is alive, then he may as well be dead.

[NuKoN]

"IDGARA." -Robin Williams

I'm guessing here,

I dont give a rats arse


EDIT: and to the guy talking about "shugg", it's Suge

[slinkyspine]

and theres a picture of Tupacs autopsy!!! He's dead
Yeah, that's a fake picture. The only thing that convinces me he is alive was the fact he was "murdered" but they have no proof of an autopsy. Also the alias he went by was the same as some idol of his with a name I cant spell but it was mentioned up. Anyway this idol believed the only way to achieve real fame was to die or fake ones death.

Pac's alive boys

[faceitoff]

Makaveli also spells "I make."
Anyways, Mr. Shakur is alive, ladies and gentlemen. He's hiding in my basement. We like to play "Touch Peepee" sometimes.

[Monkey grass]

WARNING VERY GRUSOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think this picture should put an end to the debate here. Warning though it is grusome and not for those that can't see a dead person.

http://www.celebritymorgue.com/tupac-shakur/tupac-shakur.jpg

I think he is dead.

[Frndlefire]

he's dead. If you go searching for evidence to back up a preconceived conclusion than you will find it.....or if you can't you'll invent it and not realize

[slinkyspine]

WARNING VERY GRUSOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think this picture should put an end to the debate here. Warning though it is grusome and not for those that can't see a dead person.

http://www.celebritymorgue.com/tupac-shakur/tupac-shakur.jpg

I think he is dead.
Yes that would be the FAKE picture.

http://www.ewsonline.com/2pac/autopsy.html

[Frndlefire]

Yes that would be the FAKE picture.
why say you this?

[slinkyspine]

MAny other sites and short articles but thats the first one I found.



edit heres more

http://www.ewsonline.com/2pac/info.html

[ekajsk8er]

MAny other sites and short articles but thats the first one I found.



edit heres more

http://www.ewsonline.com/2pac/info.html
I was on that site and they said something about the 7 day theory. What does that mean?

[Frndlefire]

MAny other sites and short articles but thats the first one I found.



edit heres more

http://www.ewsonline.com/2pac/info.html
I didn't see where they gave evidence for why it's fake...or is it just fake beacuse you want it to be

[NuKoN]

I didn't see where they gave evidence for why it's fake.

Agreed.. in fact, it says "REAL or FAKE? You decide"

[marflax33]

my last post for a long time.

i find this strange, this kid got his thread completely flamed, but this thread is all serious. http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=31441

[Frndlefire]

we're a fickle bunch

[The Chariot]

7 Day Theory:
http://www.ewsonline.com/2pac/seven.html

Also, I'm pretty sure that Tupac did not have an autopsy, I remember reading that somewhere. Either way, the guy is dead.

[LaxBoy92]

He's dead...

www.findadeath.com

[LaxCrazy17]

Call me crazy but I think he's alive too. One of my teachers printed an article that showed that he is alive. I also think that I heard that he's performing at the house of blues in Cleveland this summer, but I could be wrong.

[fitzy_nb_11]

I think he's alive just one of those feelings you get anyone know what I mean?

[standenup]

and theres a picture of Tupacs autopsy!!! He's dead
yea one thing...tupac never had an autopsy. look it up. and both of the funerals that were supposed to be open to the public were cancelled

[Live4It]

Man, this is an old thread, and I honestly don't care if tupac is dead or alive.

[Skiboarder]

The uncontested facts:




After leaving the Tyson fight on Saturday September 7, 1996, Tupac was alledgedly shot 5 times. He lived through the shooting and was taken to a nearby hospital. He was pronounced dead on Friday September 13, 1996.




The suspicious facts:




Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day.




There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.




In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral.




The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.




The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life.




Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "2Pac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli". The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Was the video really shot 4 months before his death, back in August of '96?




In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead.




A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle. The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta. The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop was signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records.




In December '96, Tupac's new album went platinum. In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.)




Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons.




Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why did he remove it at a very public event like a Tyson fight?




In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"? And since when do they cremate someone the day after death in a murder case?




Tupac's alias is Makaveli. Though the spelling is different, Machiavelli was a 16th century italian philosopher who advocated the staging of one's death in order to evade one's enemies and gain power. In Machiavelli's book Discourses Upon the First Ten books of Titus Livy, in Book 2 Chapter XIII he says "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive". This is Machiavelli's main idea and is the connection between Tupac and the writings of Machiavelli.




Tupac studied Machiavelli in depth while in prision was a fan and had read his books several times. Perhaps Tupac is taking his advice. Machiaveli wrote two books before his death. Look at what the All Eyez on Me disks are called.. Machiavelli's books were called, "Book 1," and, "Book 2." The CD's of, "All Eyez On Me," are entitled the same




One of Machiavelli's books is, "Discourses Upon The First Ten books Of Titus Livy," which it's claimed Tupac read in jail. In Book 2, Chapter XIII He says, "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to decieve..." This is very similar to verses in some of Tupac's songs.




Some say that Tupac modified the Machiavelli name because if you rearrange the letters, they spell, "Am Alive," or, "I Am Alive."




The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory. He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory.




Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996. It is quite a coincidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.




Tupac officially died at 4:03 PM. 4+3 = 7 Also he "died" at an age of 25 years. 2+5 = 7. It seems as if seven is Tupac's number.




There is nothing in the new album that says TUPAC RIP 1971-1996. Wouldn't it make sense to include something like that in the first album after his "death"? The only thing mentioned is "EXIT TUPAC ENTER MAKAVELI".




The executive producer of The 7 Day Theory , as listed in the CD booklet of the album, is Simon (who is a previously unknown producer in the rap music industry). In the bible, Simon was an apostle of Jesus. Simon was one of the first witnesses of the Resurrection listed by Saint Paul (I Cor. 15: 5). The Outlawz have confirmed Simon is a reference to Suge Knight who was with Tupac the night of the shooting.




In Richie Rich's album Seasoned Veteran, which was released on the same day as The 7 Day Theory, on the song "Nggas Done Changed" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says the following lyrics: "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word / but best believe that nggas' gonna get what they deserve." This phrase implies that Tupac knows he will be dead when Richie Rich's album is released.




In Makaveli's (Tupac's) song "White Man's World" on album The 7 Day Theory, he says "We ain't never gonna walk off this planet unless ya'll choose to." Did he choose to walk off the planet by faking his death?




In Tupac's song "Ambitionz az a Ridah" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "Blast me but they didn't finish, didn't diminish my powers so now I'm back to be a muthafckin' menace, they cowards thats why they tried to set me up, had btch ss nggas on my team so indeed they wet me up, BUT I'M BACK REINCARNATED." This implies that Tupac is reincarnated as Makaveli.




Tupac "died" in las vegas which is a payoff city, meaning all sorts of folks have been known to be on the take. That means doctors, press, lawyers, etc.




The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found... How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?




There's a small Black community on the North side of town.. This strip is only about 8 blocks long.. If the attackers were Black.. Where did they go? Where did they hide?




The white Cadillac containing the gunmen passes a entourage of Tupac's boys, many of them body guards... No one gives chase and there are no witnesses...There were no witnesses on the street... How come? Why not, especially right after a heavyweight fight?




The cover of Tupac's album Makaveli has him looking like Jesus Christ... Could he be planning a resurrection?




Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. How come there was no helicopter chase? If some one were to rob a casino, the LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters.. . How come this didn't happen with the Tupac shooting?




There were no ballistic tests in the murder case... At least we haven't heard about them....




Tupac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a bullet.. Why did Tupac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?




Suge said he drove Tupac to the hospital and they had a coherent conversation? How bad was Tupac hit?




Tupac had completed 2 movies and 3 LP?s that have were to be released.. With so many people upset about Tupac's death, literally anything connected with him is bound to net a whole lot of cash...




There is a 72 million dollar life insurance policy on him which has yet to be cashed. No legal actions could be taken against him as long as it isn?t cashed.




The video 'I Ain't Mad At Ya' foretold his death ....




The memorial services that were open to the public were canceled in both Los Angeles and Atlanta...




In addition to number 19, Tupac said in his song "Life goes on" from his "All Eyez on Me" CD, that when he died he wanted "every rapper" to rap at his funeral, etc. Why didn't Death Row fulfill his death wish?




In a 1994 interview with Tupac, he said before he went to prison that if he was ever sent to prison when he came out he would be worse than before. He was. He also said when he came out it would be like he was reborn. Was he speaking literally? He already died and he was worse when he came out of jail, plus Tupac switched his rapping name from 2 Pac to Makaveli, that could be considered a rebirth, all that's left is a physical rebirth (A sighting) and so far he's already completed more than half of this prophecy.




Suge Knight and Tupac are the only two music industry people on that high a profile with enough balls to pull off a stunt like faking death...




People close to Death Row and relatives of other famous rappers have speculated to me and others about the shooting being staged.




Why wouldn?t a company as powerful and rich as Death Row Records not put up a reward to find the killers?




Other possible clues are contained in the new album. It is called ?The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory? which is still a mystery in definition. Inside the cover, it reads ?Exit: 2pac, Enter: Makaveli? as if 2pac has died and Makaveli born.




The cover of Makaveli DK 7 Day Theory holds many hidden icons, and references Marketing Hype




The only witness who was going to step up and I.D. the shooter was Kadafi (Yafeu Fula) but he was shot a few months after Tupac.




In the first few seconds of the Makaveli song INTRO/BOMB FIRST, you can hear who is claimed to be Kadafi saying "Suge Shot Me"




Tupac always rapped and did videos on his death, and how his funeral would be. Why was he cremated?




In the song, " Life of An Outlaw," an Outlaw says, "All For the street fame on how to be managed, to plan sht six months in advance to what we plotted, approved to go on swole, and now I got it..."




In the song, "Made Nggas," on the, "Gang Related," and, "Supercop," soundtracks, Tupac says, "Fk 'em all who can't understand my plot to get richer...Outlaw to the grave, a muthafkin' made ngga..."




In E-40's duet with Tupac called,"Million Dollar Spot," Tupac states, "Fans can't understand my ghetto slang, so I evade and plot and plan a life of better things..."




In the song, "Ain't Hard 2 Find," Tupac says, "I heard rumors that I died, murdered in cold blood, tramatized pictures of me in my final states, you know mama cried, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted..."




In Tupac's song, "No More Pain," he says, "A heart of a soldier with the brains to teach a whole nation..." Is he referring to Jesus or Machiavelli?




The video, "I Ain't Mad At Cha, " was released only days after Tupac's, "death." It depicts Tupac being gunned down much of the way he was really shot.




"I Ain&..39;t Mad At Cha," is also track number 13 on, "All Eyez On Me," and Tupac died on Friday the 13




In the, "I Ain't Mad At Cha," video, Tupac dies. In his next video, "Toss It Up," his name is Makaveli.




In the, "Hail Mary," video, there is a gravestone that says, "Makaveli." It is cracked and there's a hole in front of it; this inplies that Makaveli rose from the dead.




In the,"Smile," video with Scarface, Tupac is crucified...Later he falls and stands up and it appears to be a double. Still, is this another image of resurection? Why make people so suspicious?




"Ambitionz as a Ridah," Verse 1: " Now these money hungry ******* gettin' suspicious, started plott'n and planin' on schemes..."




"Ambitionz as a Ridah," Verse 3: "payoff tha block, evade tha cops, 'cause I know they comin' for me, I been hesitant to reappear been away for years now I'm back...my adversaries been reduced to tears...




"White Man's World," 3rd verse:"Time so tell me why, you changed choosing new direction, in a blink of an eye, my time away just made perfection... Did you think I'd die, not gonna cry ..."




"Life of an Outlaw", Verse 2:"Who should I call when I'm shot and bleedin, indeed the possibility has part a chase in cream, dope got me hatin' fiends. Scheme wit my team, just a chosen few."






"Blasphemy", Verse 2:"I'm contemplating plots, wondering which door to go, brotha getting shot, coming back resurrected, it's just that raw ****, ***** check it..."






Did Bone Thugs N Harmony play a role in helping Tupac fake his death? In the, "Thug Luv," song, right before Tupac starts rapping, Bizzy can be heard in the background saying, "He's alive, he's alive, he's alive..."




Machiavelli's book, "the Art of War," is also the name of Bone's new album.




In the movie, "Gridlock'd," when Tupac and Roth are in the diner and they glance up at the menu, all the L's are upside down 7's.




In the movie, "Gang Related," Tupac and Belushi wait in room 7, and Tupac's badge number is 115; 1+1+5=7.




The cross on Tupac's back says, "Exodus 16:31." , The verse itself seems to have little meaning, but read this verse, found right above it:, "So the people rested on the seventh day." All of Exodus 16 deals with the 7 Dayz.




The song in which Tupac says he's alive, "Hold Ya Head," on the Makaveli CD, before Tupac begins rapping, a voice says, "Can you see him?" Another voice replies, "I see him." Then Tupac softly says, "I'm alive..."



Why have Suge Knight and the rest of his entourage been so uncooperative with police in solving the murder?

[Riot]

I think he's dead.

[BGlacrosse24]

Tupac's dead. I shot him myself. I shot Biggie too.

[CSlax06]

I think hes dead, but everyone just wants to think hes alive so they try to ''keep'' him alive. Like people like you by making a thread about him.

[BuckWyld]

yea one thing...tupac never had an autopsy. look it up. and both of the funerals that were supposed to be open to the public were cancelled

why would there be an autopsy? He was full of bullet holes, its not like there was any confusion as to the cause of death.

[Bone]

Dead as humanly possible.

[aussielax]

Tupac's dead. I shot him myself. I shot Biggie too.

And Jam Master Jay to ?

[BravesLaxer]

All the proof you need right here - http://www.ewsonline.com/2pac/alive.html

[BravesLaxer]

Even morew proof - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNGRTQsEFDg

[Levin]

why does it even matter? IF he were alive, it seems he has no desire to make it public anytime soon.

[laxmandudeguy]

I was on that site and they said something about the 7 day theory. What does that mean?


He created his album in 7 days. thats why

[Mista Hollywood]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpjJg6Qtl_M ahaha

[Riot]

and if u re-arrange the letters in makaveli, it respells "i am alive" with an extra k

they also have a picture of him in the paper someone took at a boxing match and it looks EXACTLY LIKE HIM....... tupac is definately alive because no1 else looks like him....
It also spells I am Tom Marvolo Riddle if you rearrange it and add a couple of letters. Coincidence? I think not.

[Mista Hollywood]

maybe there are pictures of tupac at a boxing match because he was leaving from a mike tyson fight when he got shot

[standenup]

and theres a picture of Tupacs autopsy!!! He's dead

tupac never had an autopsy, that pic is photoshopped

[st.joslax10]

dead and dead

[BravesLaxer]

guys he better be dead because we had a "fun" time in bed and he never called me back

BOOYAH GRANDMA
Your kidding right??? ....Please tell me your kidding

[mnlax9]

He's a alive, 7 day theory and all that crap someone wrote up there, Better dayz cd disc 2 it says theres only 12 or 13 tracks on the back. But theres a 14th track that all it says is , im coming back Ni**A , expect me to come back Ni**A. Im coming back

[Mista Hollywood]

well we dont know where his body would be if he was dead becuase he was creamated and his ashes were smoked by members of the outlawz

[Mista Hollywood]

while i was in england i saw tupac driving the tube on the hammersmith and city line when i was at the liverpool street stop. He had a arsenal jersey on by the way