Shot Quiz

[CoachRob]

NFHS rules apply.

Player A1 takes a shot during a flag dow/slow whistle after a B1 slash. The shot bounces off the goal crossbar, hits the official, and directly enters the goal without ever touching another player, anyone's crosse, or the ground.

Does the goal count?

[sammyduelist]

ild say no since it hit the official

[skip0l]

i dont know about the rule in lacrosse, but in all other sports i know of whenthe ball hits the official its still in play. i'm going to say GOAL.

[zanderaruba]

i am not sure about this one but i am going to have to with goal. the ref is in play (not meaning u can intentioally throw the ball off of him) but is sorta of an obsticle that has to be dealt with. although its a good question i am just taking a guess.

[AttackMan17]

I'd say goal, since another player did not touch the ball.

[eme]

A funky rule that almost no one knows...so an excellent quiz. The rule for ncaa used to be different...but now we are saved with the new flag down procedure: GOODIE, an acronym for goal, out of bounds, out of box, defense possession, injury, equipment violation by the offense or defending goalie.

[_SLY_]

no goal...off the official

[laxkid891]

i would say goal because the rulebook states that it cannot hit another player not official so i say its a goal

[RottingMind13]

1) What was the ref doin that close to the goal lol
2) Goal. Never hits the ground (from your description), the defense never gains possession and the offense isnt put at a disadvantage from the outcome.

[Got Aloha]

NFHS - A shot remains a shot until: a) it is obvious a goal will not be scored b) added impetus is given the ball by any member ofthe attacking team c) possession is gained by any member of the defensive team or d) after hitting the goalkeeper, goal posts or crossbar, the ball is touched by any player of either team other than the defending goalkeeper, or an official. NO GOAL

[i live 4 lax]

no goal i dont think it counts after a slash call unless its a playon.

[CoachRob]

NFHS - A shot remains a shot until: a) it is obvious a goal will not be scored b) added impetus is given the ball by any member of the attacking team c) possession is gained by any member of the defensive team or d) after hitting the goalkeeper, goal posts or crossbar, the ball is touched by any player of either team other than the defending goalkeeper, or an official. NO GOAL

Ding-ding-ding, we have a winner!!! NFHS 7-8.3 is quoted above, which means that this is NOT a goal. It is useful to remember the official is part of the field, although that doesn't come into play in this particular scenario. But a shot that hits the offician THEN goes into the goal does count. But not after hitting the crossbar or GK. If, OTOH, the shot had hit only the official, then entered the goal, it WOULD have counted, The key difference here is that it touched the goal crossbar first.

May seem trivial, but it is important to know this rule, as I actually saw this happen in a college game and it was ruled correctly. No goal, and the ball was restarted with the defense 20 yards lateral to the goal, although I don't know that the restart is spelled out in the rulebook and I believe is open to interpretation. Me, I would have given it to the offense outside the box. Any thoughts??

[LaxRef]

Ding-ding-ding, we have a winner!!! NFHS 7-8.3 is quoted above, which means that this is NOT a goal. It is useful to remember the official is part of the field, although that doesn't come into play in this particular scenario. But a shot that hits the offician THEN goes into the goal does count. But not after hitting the crossbar or GK. If, OTOH, the shot had hit only the official, then entered the goal, it WOULD have counted, The key difference here is that it touched the goal crossbar first.

May seem trivial, but it is important to know this rule, as I actually saw this happen in a college game and it was ruled correctly. No goal, and the ball was restarted with the defense 20 yards lateral to the goal, although I don't know that the restart is spelled out in the rulebook and I believe is open to interpretation. Me, I would have given it to the offense outside the box. Any thoughts??

The NCAA rule was different (slightly) and is more different now. But there's no way you can award the ball to the defense, since the flag down denotes possession to the attacking team!

[CoachRob]

Ouch! I forgot about that. I guess they blew it. All the fuss about the official getting hit messed everybody up, myself included.

[CoachRob]

A funky rule that almost no one knows...so an excellent quiz.

Why THANK you eme. That's quite a compliment coming from you. :bye:

[brindledawg]

The high school rules seem clear. Could someone clarify the NCAA situation for me? With and without slow whistle (ie-GOODIE) in effect.

Thanks! :concerned

[MElaxRef]

NCAA rules used to have the same language as the current NFHS, but it has vanished.

SO, with or without a slow whistle, the ball bouncing off of the crossbar is in play. Play does not stop just because the ball then bounces off of the official. Goal counts.

[LaxRef]

NCAA rules used to have the same language as the current NFHS, but it has vanished.

SO, with or without a slow whistle, the ball bouncing off of the crossbar is in play. Play does not stop just because the ball then bounces off of the official. Goal counts.

First of all, welcome aboard!

Second, the old NCAA language wasn't quite the same; it didn't mention the official, and it only referred to contact outiside the crease. See:

2005[/b] NCAA Rule 7-8]During a slow whistle, a shot remains a shot until: (1) it is obvious that a goal will not be scored; (2) added impetus is given the ball by any member of the attacking team; (3) possession is gained by any member of the defensive team; or (4) after hitting the goalkeeper, goal post or crossbar, the ball is touched by any player of the opposing team or any defensive player outside the crease other than the defending goalkeeper.

[hockey&lax]

the official is a part of the field... i say goal

[LaxRef]

the official is a part of the field... i say goal

Bzzzzzzzzzt! That's incorrect. Go back and actually read the thread for the correct answers.