Seasonal Heads for lacrosse

[1brokebrother]

Has this been mentioned before?




Seasonal Heads for lacrosse
Two different types of heads.. one for winter and one for summer

Winter heads should be black or a dark color to absorb radiant heat from the sun.
The polymer can be the same type that many complain that isn’t “stiff” enough.
By making these heads with a dark color and a more pliable polymer they won’t be as brittle in colder temperature as the summer heads and should fracture far less.

but these won't work in summer because the higher temps will cause the heads to get too soft..
here's when they sell you a summer head


Summer heads must always be white to reflect the suns rays.

Summer heads must always be made from stiff plastic so they don’t get soft in highers temperatures.



It really doesn’t matter if seasonal heads work. All that matters if they can get guys to buy more heads.

[mrmccool]

i have no idea what you're talking about. lacrosse sticks work everywhere, even the moon, no matter what color they are. but good luck.

[gigo567]

I am so..... Confused. I need sleep.

[mrmccool]

I am so..... Confused. I need sleep.
i second that. i'm gonna look into getting myself a new lax head for the fall, in case my spring one doesn't make it...

[MainLax28]

seems logical, but I doubt that makes that big of a difference. If it did, companies would use that as a marketing scheme.

[Lax101]

He actually makes perfect sense. Black absorbs more heat, and during the winter, lacrosse heads get too cold and brittle. By absorbing more heat, they're less brittle. The opposite goes to the summer, when heads get too flimsy and snap, so you'll want a white head that reflects off sunlight.

Yes, we don't exactly know how much sunlight factors into a lacrosse head, but in theory, this is ideal

[atacklax]

I guess if you really wanted it it would work. But it seems impractical.

[dtl42]

Doesnt seem worth it, sunlight doesnt affect your head that much in a game or practice, other than that it shouldnt be exposed to the elements

[Brandon303]

Even if this were to work in theory, it could still be windy, cloudy, raining, etc... All of which could contribute to a head becoming brittle/flimsy.

[1brokebrother]

The polymer can be the same type that many complain that isn’t “stiff” enough.
I've revised this statement

The polymer will be the same type that many complain that isn’t “stiff” enough.
The softer plastic is more important than the color/piment !!!.. softer plastics=less brittle at lower temperatures.
the color/pigment aids the head in staying softer by retaining heat.
And identifies the head for winter play

As for not wanting to but 2 heads.. bet 99% of you have more than 1 head,.
And 50% of you in colder regions would buy head that was "adverstised" for your region..
Where's the strong hold for Lacrosse?
The north east..bitter winters=huge market
Gait could have two lines of all the same heads.. Have an identicle "Artic" line

..If it did, companies would use that as a marketing scheme.
Maybe no one ever thought of it before.

i have no idea what you're talking about. lacrosse sticks work everywhere, even the moon, no matter what color they are. but good luck.
errrr.. how do you know?? you been to the moon?
My point is.. this is just an idea that I'm throwing around.
I don't care if it's true..
All I care is if I can sell you kids a $89.99 head and tell you it won't break as easily in cold wheather

[SachemsGoalie40]

your idea makes perfect sense and it could be used as a marketing idea because little kids are up for any new things that would make them apear 'cooler' to there peers, and yes most every kid has more than one stick, just alone is goalie heads that i've gotten in high school i have 6 (a few to many but o well) and if your concept did actually work then you would sell even more but not too many kids go outside when its 10 degrees out to play some wall ball ( i have but its not the best) and you would mostlikely market this to younger kids

[Lax4Ever]

The colour really wont make a big enough difference. If, and I do mean IF I have to time to waste and care enough, I'll give you equations and numbers to show how little it matters. What you may want to know, it is more of a psycological effect then physical. Yes the colour absorbs more light/doesn't radiate as much but no the factor isn't big enough for it to matter.

[robi]

It'll probably have some effect, but nothing significant.

[mrmccool]

who hasn't been to the moon these days? I have played with dark and light colored heads in hot and cold temperatures, and in my years of experience i have found that a lacrosse stick's durability depends on several more factors. but good luck with ur idea

[1brokebrother]

wow .. you guys only read part of the post
one more time fellahs

The softer plastic is more important than the color/pigment !!!


Please address the issue..


I sent this into the brine contest

[1brokebrother]

I'll give you equations and numbers to show how little it matters. What you may want to know, it is more of a psycological effect then physical. Yes the colour absorbs more light/doesn't radiate as much but no the factor isn't big enough for it to matter.

Are you trying to tell me that I could lay 1black and 1white Xhead side by side in the sun on a 30 degree F day and they would both be equally brittle??

If so. doesn't matter if you show me the numbers.
I won't believe you anyway.

but anyway all the winter heads would be made out of a softer plastic

[Lax4Ever]

You will get a larger difference on warmer days. Sorry to break it to you but colour will do very little below freezing when compared to the type of plastic used. I don't think you would even gain a degree through colour. The black head will not reflect the light as much as the white head but it will radiate more energy since it has the energy to give off and there is a low energy around it. Add in wind and the energy gets to the point where it's so small it really doesn't matter. It really doesn't make a big difference.

[tomahawks11]

......huh........????

[1brokebrother]

Sorry to break it to you but colour will do very little below freezing when compared to the type of plastic used

ok cool.. how about they advertise the heads as.."best if used below 50degrees"(or whatever)

and you you're not breaking anything to me.. my very 1st post says that a softer plastic would be used for the winter heads..
you guys don't read you only discount..
go back and look..

thanks for the info but really no one has brought up anything that shoots down the theory that..
Dark colored Lacrosse heads made with softer plastics would break less often than traditional stiff white lacrosse heads..


now to me.. that's a no brainer

[Lax4Ever]

They can and probobly will do it. In theory, it work. In accuality, it doesn't make a difference. You could and would sell plenty from that tactic but it would be pure BS.
When you can come up with a way to keep the plastic strong enough to play at -10 to -20 degrees C, then I will make a big deal about it and say it works. Till then, it's more of a hit and miss with marketing and the sales wouldn't last too long before people realized it is basically a lie.

[fenwicklax89]

they just need to make an all-weather polymer that stays the same flexibility and durability in any temperature condition

[viking goalie]

Its not a marketable idea. Period. Ill tell you why-
First off, you dont have a big enough market to sell it in. Period. Lacrosse isnt a huge market anyways, and when you rule of the people who dont want to buy a different head to use in the winter (which, I might add, would be lots), then the people who dont live in a cold enough area for it to be practical, you are left with a very small market of potential buyers.

Second, like I mentioned earlier, the spring season for lots of people starts out cold and ends up warm. I know I dont want to use two different heads during a season if I can help it, and coaches tell their players not to use more than one head in a season.

Third, the times when its actually going to be useful are way too low. Most of the time, the added heat isnt going to be enough to cause a noticable change in strength anyways. If its 15 degrees outside, its 15 degrees outside, and a black head isnt going to make it warm enough to make it any less brittle. Not to mention, this is considering that its perfectly sunny outside. What about the times when its overcast, raining, snowing, you are in the shade, etc? Obviously a softer plastic doesnt have to deal with this, but that still falls under points 1 and 2.

My thoughts exactly

[1brokebrother]

My thoughts exactly
whew lawdy.. now there's an original thought..