All personal fouls NR?

[BuckWyld]

I guess this changed in the NCAA rules this year. Who could possibly think that this is a good idea? We played our first game today and two fouls turned a game we would have won in to a loss. It just seems like locking in every little slash is totally over the top.

[laxfan25]

I guess this changed in the NCAA rules this year. Who could possibly think that this is a good idea? We played our first game today and two fouls turned a game we would have won in to a loss. It just seems like locking in every little slash is totally over the top.
What are your referring to? Are you playing under new local rules where all personals are non-releasable? How novel!
The new NCAA rule is that on a flag-down slow whistle situation, once the ball is in the attack box, play continues, even if the ball becomes loose, which is the new concept. any loose-ball technical on the original offending team becomes time serving, which is also a new concept, but I'm curious as to what occurred in your game. Can you enlighten us all?

[BuckWyld]

I play post-college club, the rules were changed this year for our league and the given reason was that NCAA had changed their rules. I am somewhat annoyed because these changes really effected the out come of the game so I came here to vent and figure out why the rules were changed.

[laxfan25]

But how were they changed - as I outlined the NCAA rules changes? Your post title says all personals NR - that is NOT what happened in the NCAA.

[BuckWyld]

As I said, I didn't know anything about it untill I arrived at the field today. I was told by either a ref or one of the captains that the NCAA changed their rules and as a result our league changed the rules, I assumed they actually knew what they were talking about. I suppose they were mistaken about at least the NCAA change, hopefully they were wrong about the whole thing because it sucks

[laxfan25]

So again, were you playing that any personal foul was locked in for the entire minute? If so, that would seem to be a mistake, if they were trying to base it on NCAA rules changes - but you really haven't clarified what happened in your game - just that it inhaled badly.

[BuckWyld]

I don't see where the confusion is. We arrived and were told about new rules, including the new faceoff mecanics, slow whistle and all personals are NR. The reasoning was changes to NCAA rules, which aside from some small changes we play by. Then we played the game. The newly instituted locking in of personals hurt my team. I came here under the assumption that it was a change to the NCAA rules, because that is what I was told, to find out information as to why the changes were made and vent because I think it was a poor decision. Then you informed me that it was not infact an NCAA rule change and I expressed hope that the whole thing was a missunderstanding and that next week we would go back to the old rules regarding locking in personals. Got it?

[eme]

BuckWyld: your lack of specifics in the post regarding the new club rules you played under prevented us from "getting it."

There is nothing in the ncaa rules about locking in personal fouls unless they occur in a simultaneous situation (fouls on both teams).

[ColtsLax]

I think he was pretty specific. His title was " All personal fouls NR?" He then said that this was due to a NCAA rule change.

Short answer: No, this is not a new rule.

[BuckWyld]

The more I looked through our league rules the more I think that someone misunderstood what was happening. Anyway sorry for the confusion, I realize my first post was not as clear as it could have been, but the others were not bad.

[blindbill]

Buckwyld, you've com to the right place, but forgive us anal rules' chasers. You've come to the officials forum where we LOVE to tear apart any situation or rule, discuss intermidably (sp) the potential nuances, effects and potential for error, all in the interest of "getting it right the first time". That's why there was a question regarding clarity "what were you really questioning".

Thanks for posting your question, and come again anytime. Most of us learn something from every thread, and we hope to help make YOU a better, more informed participant.

[BuckWyld]

So the final answer is that the refs were somehow confused about the rules. It was the first game of the season on the other hand I can't figure out where they possibly could have come up with that awful rule

[WHEELAX2]

yeah.. I would ask them to produce a current NCAA rule book to show where they derived their rules from.. they sound like they peeled a page out of the ILF..

if you have running time, I can see how they would be non-releasable, but if you have stoppage time, there's no need to keep a guy in if the other team scores.

[BuckWyld]

That might explain the confusion because we do play with running time

[WHEELAX2]

yeah.. it's like the ILF then.. they are non releasable because of the running time, so if you score, and there's a bit of time left in the penalty, you should call time out and hope to win the face off..