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MountainGoat22
05-10-2006, 07:51 PM
Springfield vs. BVW - Cancelled and will not be made up

CoachFauss
05-10-2006, 09:38 PM
Anyone know if SLUH played Desmet?

Did Lafayette play MICDS? (Rained out)

Vianney vs. Parkway Central? (looks like this game is Thursday)



I know Clayton beat Parkway West.

Eclipse
05-10-2006, 09:50 PM
We didnt play (lafayette)

Also why did lonny not deserve AA...he killed everyone in the state in points, most of which were assists.

laxdefense5
05-10-2006, 10:56 PM
yeah de smet played sluh tonight, de smet won 11-6...it was a good game but i think if yoon wasnt in goal the score would have been around 15 or 16

PshLax12
05-10-2006, 11:25 PM
dude, I agree. the rating system is bs. flat out.
politics dude, don't be upset, it's just politics and a bunch of people think they're tight for boosting their own players because they are there own and aren't necessarily as good as others who deserve it more. I feel ya psouth.

Pottyboy. I can't beleive they didn't give you AA last year. You got robbed in my oppinion

PshLax12
05-10-2006, 11:28 PM
Also Lonny's a great player don't get me wrong. junior all american. But the way lafeyyette lists like 30 games and counts stats for all of them in and out of state kinda pisses me off. thats part of the reason lonny has 100 something points.

pshlax18
05-11-2006, 07:20 AM
We didnt play (lafayette)

Also why did lonny not deserve AA...he killed everyone in the state in points, most of which were assists.
Lonny is a good player-theres no doubt about that and i think he should have been all state last year. But the thing is, the only reason he had so many points was because every play was run through him no matter what. If anyone ran every single play every time down the field through their best player, of course they would have a ton of points. AA's are the best of the best and are people that can't be stopped when double teamed and triple teamed. Lonny was not like that last year.

Eclipse
05-11-2006, 07:34 AM
Well if he wasnt last year, he is this year

mlax
05-11-2006, 09:40 AM
Lonny is a good player-theres no doubt about that and i think he should have been all state last year. But the thing is, the only reason he had so many points was because every play was run through him no matter what. If anyone ran every single play every time down the field through their best player, of course they would have a ton of points. AA's are the best of the best and are people that can't be stopped when double teamed and triple teamed. Lonny was not like that last year.

Psh guys - You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But, wait a minute. A play-maker "makes plays". He's the "go-to" guy who "creates" opportunities for a team. When a team goes to the final four out of 32 state programs and the "play-maker" on that team has had his hands in half the scores (assists and or goals), he's AA material. By the way, Lonnie hasn't stopped "play-making" this year and he does go through doubles and triples to get it done. And, he does it as a middie now. Any further questions? I guess not.

AA thoughts:
Couch or Looby - A
Burst - A
Blumenthal - M
Tallaet - D
Coleman - G (he may not be the best, but he's 20 or so and 0)

Pottyboy55
05-11-2006, 10:46 AM
"AA thoughts:

Coleman - G (he may not be the best, but he's 20 or so and 0)"

why does he deserve that?
coleman is a punk that does not deserve AA status....

Prey deserves it more than Coleman far and away.
Prey has does far much more for HIS team Anyday. think of the defense, no offense to pc defense, but think of the defense he plays behind, not by any means the greatest.... think of the D coleman plays with. I'm not rippin on rockhurst in anyway here....
oh, and mlax, speaking of goalie AA's, since youre so knowledgable, why didn't Ted Potter receive AA? just out of curiousity.

mlax
05-11-2006, 11:16 AM
Coleman's a punk? That's a great thing to post....that's sportsmanship. Maybe Potter just wasn't well-liked. His coach should know the answer. My thoughts for this year are only thoughts. If you don't like them, no problem with me. Lacrosse is a class game...

Pottyboy55
05-11-2006, 11:26 AM
haha, alright cool guy, I have no respect for a kid that talks crap after getting tosse 12-6.... sorrry mlax.

Pottyboy55
05-11-2006, 11:31 AM
best of luck in the playoffs, should be exciting, as always. peace.

laxme
05-11-2006, 11:54 AM
Pottyboy in the "Best player in STL" forum. You said Coleman was the best goalie, and Prey doesn't deserve AA. Which is it? You seem to change who are alot, like being a girl from New Mexico transfering to Nerix. I hope you aren't posing as someone you are not.

Coleman would lead PC to the same success that Prey did, which btw is NOT making the playoffs. Levy from Clayton last year got All State, and he was a good player on a bad team, but carried his team to the playoffs. PC has a better team than Clayton most years, and he was able to get them into playoffs atleast. No player will win AA if his teams doesn't go to playoffs.

By your argument, the Rockhurst D must be stacked with All State players, they may have 1, a LSM Rientjes. Walsh & Olshefski are fine players, but would be down the list of top D men.

As far as Potter, first off wasn't the best goalie in his conference- see above. Your argument of a great D, probably worked against him, between all state Tallet, and all conference- Payer.

Pottyboy55
05-11-2006, 02:12 PM
I stand corrected.

laxme, who do you honestly think I am?
pottyboy, potter, teddy potter, connection?
my views and opinions, by the way, do not represent laduelax nor Coach Fauss, just to get that out of the way. My opinions come from a players perspective, not my coaching perspective, atleast maybe a few points I made in the past, but as a majority, from a players. let's not let this influence the great discussions we used to have. word.
May the best man/team/coaching staff win.
should be interesting with a few new teams to throw into the equation this year.

Chaminademid
05-11-2006, 03:51 PM
Also Lonny's a great player don't get me wrong. junior all american. But the way lafeyyette lists like 30 games and counts stats for all of them in and out of state kinda pisses me off. thats part of the reason lonny has 100 something points.

That'd be a good point if he didnt lead the state in points per game by about half a point both last year and this year.

laxme
05-11-2006, 03:55 PM
I think MO lax may be coming up on it's 15th anniversary. So to kill time till the playoffs, the MO all-time lacrosse team.

Goalie
John Hunt- Kirkwood '99(went to CBC), Townson '03

Defense
Pat Dunleavy- DeSmet '02, Ohio State '06
Ryan Walsh- MICDS '03,
Ted Bade- MICDS '00, Denison '04

Midfield
Pat Hogan- DeSmet '99 Syracuse '03
Pat Larmon- DeSmet '03 UMASS '07
Nick Silva- Parkway West '99, Manhattan '03

Attack
Patrick Zeis- CBC '04, St. John's/Lindenwood
Sean Connelley- Rockhurst '98, Boston College '02
Lonny Blumenthal- Lafayette '06

Please comment.

fenderstrat3578
05-11-2006, 04:17 PM
I agree with some of your choices, but if I had to do it this is it:

Goalie: John Hunt (laxme: didnt john hunt go to MICDS, not kirkwood or cbc?)

Defense: Ted Bade
Pat Dunleavy
Tommy Brummet

Midfield: Nick Silva
Jono Heimenz
Pat Hogan

Attack: Jimmy Dole
Pat Zeis
Bryan Lyss

(I'd put Burst infront of Blumenthal)

2nd Team

Goalie: Good Question, In my opinion id put Teddy

Defense: Ryan Walsh
Blake Birner
Tim Reidy

Midfield: Pat Larmon
Pete Hannapel
Danny Kerch

Attack: Kenny Burst
Kevin Coombs
Schaffer Degen


For 2nd team, its a lot more loose, more people could have been incorporated but off the top of my head thats my list

wolfie8914
05-11-2006, 06:35 PM
Ted Bade was the real deal. He was my counselor at summer camp in like 3rd grade.

CoachFauss
05-11-2006, 06:59 PM
Goalie: John Hunt (laxme: didnt john hunt go to MICDS, not kirkwood or cbc?)

There are 2 John Hunts and they both played goalie in STL. The older one went to CBC and Towson. The younger one went to MICDS and graduated a couple of years ago. Not sure if he played in college.

Eclipse
05-11-2006, 07:01 PM
hey laxme how about some specialist? F/O and LSM?

Laxmaster2022
05-11-2006, 07:56 PM
Pottyboy "AA? about 6 desmet kids, as it always goes that way."

This got me thinking, and did some research AA's since 2000.

DeSmet 13- all 13 played DI, 1 played only 1 year- Jarvis @ ND
MICDS- 6- one played 1 year of DI, 3 played DIII
CBC- 4
Rockhurst- 3
SLUH- 2
Lafayette-1
Kirkwood- 1

2 time winners- Jarvis, Dunleavy, Larmon, Edmundowicz from DeSmet, Zeis- CBC, Walsh- MICDS.

You forgot Matt Goudy (attack) from De Smet, he was a two time all american and was a year older than Bobby, who he got a majority of his goals from. He's coaching JV for De Smet now... still has a hell of a shot too.

PshLax12
05-11-2006, 07:59 PM
That'd be a good point if he didnt lead the state in points per game by about half a point both last year and this year.


That's why i said i know lonny's a great player.

Is burst still playing? last i heard he wasn't playing. is he hurt or is country day just keepin him healthy for the playoffs

PshLax12
05-11-2006, 08:00 PM
that tall dude who coaches JV Desemt got two all americans? Wow didnt know that

Laxmaster2022
05-11-2006, 08:04 PM
that tall dude who coaches JV Desemt got two all americans? Wow didnt know that
I'm pretty sure you're thinkin of coach Foy, he was a goalie at an Ohio school I think but I could be totally wrong, Matt Goudy is taller than the head coach (Benton). So I guess he's the in-between one...

laxme
05-11-2006, 08:28 PM
You forgot Matt Goudy (attack) from De Smet, he was a two time all american and was a year older than Bobby, who he got a majority of his goals from. He's coaching JV for De Smet now... still has a hell of a shot too.

Matt Goudy was never an all american, let alone a two time all american. You are thinking of Chris Jarvis, he was a two time all american attackman (senior)/ middie(junior year) from DeSmet. He was good, but was 5'4, and not half the athlete as the other attackman/middies. Definitely a great HS MO player.

laxme
05-11-2006, 08:30 PM
Specialist- LSM- Jamie Andrews- DeSmet '97 Delaware '01. Actually I don't know how I forgot him. He & Hogan are the best players to ever come out of MO. Played everything, LSM, switch sticks play short stick mid, man-up, man-down.

FO- Hannapel last year comes to mind, but not sure who else. Kind of an over looked position.

Eclipse
05-11-2006, 08:58 PM
Specialist- LSM- Jamie Andrews- DeSmet '97 Delaware '01. Actually I don't know how I forgot him. He & Hogan are the best players to ever come out of MO. Played everything, LSM, switch sticks play short stick mid, man-up, man-down.

FO- Hannapel last year comes to mind, but not sure who else. Kind of an over looked position.


FO-Sonnetag?

91% win percentage....4 years varsity

laxme
05-11-2006, 09:01 PM
FO-Sonnetag?

91% win percentage....4 years varsity

Yes, jeff sonnetag was good laf '98, i believe.

Eclipse
05-11-2006, 09:03 PM
JON Sonntag...and i think it was 97...not 100% on that

CoachFauss
05-11-2006, 09:04 PM
Anyone know any scores from today? I'm most curious about Central and Vianney.

Eclipse
05-11-2006, 09:13 PM
well

Lafayette 18 Wentzville 1

wolfie8914
05-11-2006, 09:40 PM
well

Lafayette 18 Wentzville 1


Dang.


They are a first year team right?

wglax18
05-11-2006, 09:46 PM
webster groves 6 parkway west 4 which brings webster's point total to 14

wglax18
05-11-2006, 09:48 PM
webster 6 parkway west 4

DLP
05-11-2006, 09:58 PM
I'm pretty sure you're thinkin of coach Foy, he was a goalie at an Ohio school I think but I could be totally wrong, Matt Goudy is taller than the head coach (Benton). So I guess he's the in-between one...

Definately coach Foy, he works with all the goalies at Desmet

CoachFauss
05-11-2006, 10:35 PM
webster groves 6 parkway west 4 which brings webster's point total to 14

I guess the Shawnee Mission South game will be the alternate? They don't have one listed on MOLAX.

I logged into the system used to enter info on Prep Sports and it lists Parkway Central 9 - Vianney 0. Anyone out there to verify this?

If Webster and Central did both win tonight, I think that eliminates Central and Vianney and only 13 teams are left fighting for those 12 spots.

At this point, I think Webster needs Hickman to lose both games or be able to win a tie-breaker if Springfield or Ladue loses. I still don't know what the tie-breaker is but if Springfield and Ladue win, those tie-breakers won't matter.

Chaminademid
05-11-2006, 10:41 PM
Thats what a P central kid posted in the other thread.

Laxer87
05-11-2006, 10:42 PM
yea there a first year varsity team... (wentzville)

laxdefense5
05-11-2006, 11:09 PM
i think for LSM you could throw in Spencer Hampton from De Smet, four years on varsity and hes played close defense everyyear except this one, he has around 9 or so goals...and hes signing to play at West Point

wglax18
05-11-2006, 11:10 PM
hampton is dank

CoachFauss
05-11-2006, 11:17 PM
Rockhurst wraps up the #1 seed with their win today
SLUH is the #2
MICDS is currently #3 and will hold on to that if they beat Lafayette
4, 5 and 6 will be Desmet, Parkway South and Blue Valley West - don't know the order of those teams yet. Desmet will get the #3 if they win out and Lafayette beats MICDS.
Lafayette is #7

8 - 12 are still to be determined.

Hickman will get the #8 spot if they win out.
Ladue can pass Springfield and CBC with a win Friday and tie Kirkwood

fenderstrat3578
05-12-2006, 11:51 AM
will MICDS play their 1/4 game on the 19th or 20th?

CoachFauss
05-12-2006, 12:28 PM
will MICDS play their 1/4 game on the 19th or 20th?

Probably depends on who they're playing. Since they don't have lights on their field, if they play a KC school it will probably be on Saturday. The playoff schedule will probably be determined on Monday at the coaches' meeting

CoachFauss
05-13-2006, 07:35 AM
Hickman and Ladue both won Friday knocking Webster out of the playoffs. The final seeding should be close to finalized by Saturday. The only question is what happens when 2 teams are tied and I don't know the answer to that.

mlax
05-13-2006, 08:01 AM
Strength of schedule and # of quality wins my coach tells me

wglax18
05-13-2006, 12:51 PM
doesn't webster still have a chance if springfield loses

goalie33fan
05-13-2006, 02:29 PM
Why wasnt Chaminad at the JV turny today.

CoachFauss
05-13-2006, 06:40 PM
doesn't webster still have a chance if springfield loses

My bad - I guess they do but Olathe is really struggling this year. I'd be shocked if Springfield loses that game

Why wasnt Chaminad at the JV turny today.

Not too sure - kind of screwed the SLUH freshmen and Lafayette out of games.

Strength of schedule and # of quality wins my coach tells me

So, anyone have thoughts on who should get the higher seeds? Ladue and Kirkwood tied with 17 points and I'm guessing that Springfield and CBC will be tied with 16 points. Let me know your thoughts on who you'd put higher with these pairings.

mlax
05-13-2006, 06:58 PM
My bad - I guess they do but Olathe is really struggling this year. I'd be shocked if Springfield loses that game



Not too sure - kind of screwed the SLUH freshmen and Lafayette out of games.



So, anyone have thoughts on who should get the higher seeds? Ladue and Kirkwood tied with 17 points and I'm guessing that Springfield and CBC will be tied with 16 points. Let me know your thoughts on who you'd put higher with these pairings.

Hickman - 8th. Kirkwood should be 9th. Ladue 10 (Kirkwood has beaten 3 playoff teams....one is South, a 6th seed). Ladue has not beaten any playoff teams from this year. Ladue should be 10th. Should be a good torunament. Sure wish I hadn't graduated. Good luck everyone.

wglax18
05-13-2006, 08:18 PM
was the jv tournament today?

goalie33fan
05-13-2006, 09:30 PM
was the jv tournament today?
yep (extra words)

wolfie8914
05-14-2006, 01:18 AM
Who won the JV tournament? not that it actually matters.

fenderstrat3578
05-14-2006, 07:40 AM
Who won the JV tournament? not that it actually matters.


CBC went to the finals with desmet, don know who won. CBC upset rockhurst to get there.

MICDS won the consolation bracket with a sweet win over PWest and beating Kirkwood in the finals

Pottyboy55
05-14-2006, 10:02 AM
desmet beat cbc 8-2 I think, I know desmet won tho.

mlax, where did you graduate from?

wglax18
05-14-2006, 03:00 PM
i can't believe cbc's jv team made it to the finals they looked like car pwhen i saw them

MountainGoat22
05-14-2006, 04:37 PM
Springfield JV won all their games, I dont know if that means they won the tourny or not..they beat rockhurst, some other team and then pembroke hill by one in the final.

Springfield Varsity beat Olathe today.

CoachFauss
05-14-2006, 06:32 PM
Did Desmet and Chaminade ever play? This is a conference game and worth more than their first alternate which would only be worth 1 point. Desmet gets this, they jump to #4 in the standings. If they don't, they'd be tied with Parkway South and they lost that game, dropping them to #5

Still haven't heard back about the tie-breakers but with Kirkwood winning their Conference, I have a feeling they'll get the #9 and drop Ladue to #10.

Springfield and CBC were both 3-1 in their conference so they'll need to go beyond that. Springfield was 10-2 in their games that counted for the playoffs while CBC was 7-5. Do you give it to the team with the better record or the team with the tougher schedule? I guess we'll all know by tomorrow night...

Chaminademid
05-14-2006, 07:06 PM
They played on saturday, DeSmet won 13-1

MountainGoat22
05-14-2006, 07:16 PM
This is what I've heard...

The 12 teams that have qualified for postseason play are:

Rockhurst
SLUH
MICDS
DeSmet
Parkway South
Blue Valley West
Lafayette
Hickman
Kirkwood
Ladue
CBC
Springfield

CoachFauss
05-14-2006, 07:18 PM
This is what I've heard...

The 12 teams that have qualified for postseason play are:

Rockhurst
SLUH
MICDS
DeSmet
Parkway South
Blue Valley West
Lafayette
Hickman
Kirkwood
Ladue
CBC
Springfield


That's correct. Kirkwood and Ladue are tied on points and so are CBC and Springfield. The rest of the standings didn't involve any ties so they're set.

wglax18
05-14-2006, 07:38 PM
the olathe game was so close...if only

laxdefense5
05-14-2006, 09:09 PM
de smet beat chaminade 16 to 1

laxdefense5
05-14-2006, 09:11 PM
de smet-16
chaminade-1

Chaminademid
05-14-2006, 09:12 PM
That's funny....cause I was keeping score and it was 13-1 I'm pretty sure.
Maybe 16-1 but I'm pretty sure it was 13.

laxdefense5
05-14-2006, 09:13 PM
i dont know, i heard like 6 different scores

Chaminademid
05-14-2006, 09:15 PM
Yeah.....you guys were probably the best team we've played all year. I wasn't very happy I didnt get to play and we suffered cause of it (like 3 of 18 or something on faceoffs for us). Not like it would have made too much of a difference but couldn't hurt.

falconslax
05-14-2006, 09:27 PM
Does anyone know about Blue Valley West vs. Lindbergh? BVW would need the point to move into a tie with Parkway South.

The Hickman site says that Wentzville forfeited. How is that scored? How is it different from a cancellation? Will Hickman receive a point for the forfeit?

I was told the tie breaks for teams that are tied in points are head-to-head and strength of schedule/quality wins. Head-to-head is pretty clear. I assume the strength/quality issue is resolved by the coaches at the seeding meeting.

CoachFauss
05-14-2006, 09:50 PM
Does anyone know about Blue Valley West vs. Lindbergh? BVW would need the point to move into a tie with Parkway South.

The Hickman site says that Wentzville forfeited. How is that scored? How is it different from a cancellation? Will Hickman receive a point for the forfeit?

I was told the tie breaks for teams that are tied in points are head-to-head and strength of schedule/quality wins. Head-to-head is pretty clear. I assume the strength/quality issue is resolved by the coaches at the seeding meeting.

I can't imagine that BVW and Lindbergh are going to play at this point. BVW played 12 games (according to Laxpower) and they get credit for Blue Valley North. Their one alternate listed is Rockhurst and their other game was Vianney. BVW beat Vianney so if Lindbergh doesn't count, then they'd get the point from that game.

From what I've heard, Wentzville didn't make the trip to Columbia for their 2 games so it's no fault of Hickman's and therefore I don't think they should lose anything or be punished for it. I don't know what their alternate game is but if they didn't submit one, then it would be the first game they played that wasn't on their list. It looks like they didn't count the Webster game and that would knock them down to 16 points because they lost that game and they'd be tied with CBC and Springfield.

Neither of the two pairs of teams that are tied played each other. I wonder if they'll count the overall schedule or the 12 games that count for the playoffs? If you're rewarding teams based on strength of schedule, you should look to how teams did last year when you scheduled them. Ladue beat the following teams that made the playoffs last year: Pembroke Hill, Hazelwood, Parkway West and Clayton. We lost to one playoff team from last year. Kirkwood beat Parkway West, CBC and Parkway South and lost to three. I do think the fact that Kirkwood won their conference will probably be the deciding factor. I think when you get into strength of schedule it becomes subjective and that's one thing we're trying to avoid with the point system.

I'm sure someone has thought about this before now and has the policy in writing but I haven't heard an answer yet.

I guess I'll know by Monday night and if I get a more definite answer, I'll post that info here.

CoachFauss
05-15-2006, 11:06 AM
It looks like this is how the bracket is set up and the final points. Ladue and Lafayette are going to play Thursday at 5:00.

Any other teams have info on when they're going to play?

The first round is 5-12, 6-11, 7-10 and 8-9.

1. Rockhurst (36)
2. SLUH (35)
3. MICDS (31)
4. Desmet (28)
5. Parkway South (26) - wins tie-breaker over BVW due to "quality wins"
6. Blue Valley West (26)
7. Lafayette (19)
8. Hickman (18)
9. Kirkwood (17) - wins tie-breaker over Ladue
10. Ladue (17)
11. CBC (16) - wins tie-breaker over Springfield
12. Springfield (16)

It looks like the "quality wins" tie-breaker comes down to how many teams that made this year's playoffs you beat.

MountainGoat22
05-15-2006, 04:12 PM
Springfield plays Parkway South Wednesday at 8.

Pottyboy55
05-15-2006, 07:37 PM
where are they playing?

MountainGoat22
05-15-2006, 07:48 PM
dont know yet. They are trying to find somewhere with lights. Maybe CBC, maybe Busch Soccer Fields.

Eclipse
05-15-2006, 07:48 PM
Since Psouth is the higher seed they should be playing at Psouth Middle

falconslax
05-15-2006, 08:14 PM
Springfield gets no support from the school. We can't practice there. We can't use the school name. Etc. Thus, we cannot take players out of school early. We will leave immediately after school and drive to St. Louis. Parkway South Middle School does not have lights, so Parkway South is trying to locate a lighted field that we can use at 8:00pm.

laxballer23
05-15-2006, 10:02 PM
what positions do Steve Couch, Chris White Head, And luke Stevenson play anyone know? the play for p-south

wglax18
05-15-2006, 10:19 PM
couch plays x whitehead plays right and stevenson is a middie

laxballer23
05-15-2006, 10:22 PM
hey thanks wglax

wolfie8914
05-15-2006, 10:33 PM
Is it true that Josh Albrecht is not playing because he was suspended?

And I heard Blumenthal is injured, but playing, is this true?

pshlax18
05-15-2006, 10:44 PM
couch plays x whitehead plays right and stevenson is a middie
luke stevenson plays crease

goalie33fan
05-16-2006, 06:36 AM
Not true buddy. Just a rumor.

Pottyboy55
05-16-2006, 09:29 AM
where are all of Albrecht's stats post the Desmet game through the end of the season?
just wonderin.

laxme
05-16-2006, 09:52 AM
I know he didn't play against SLUH. He has been out, according to above not for suspension, then I would assume injury.

laxme
05-16-2006, 09:57 AM
just wonderin.

Don't have to hide you intentions here. We all know you play Laf on Thursday and want to know if he is going to play. But you should have been at either their game against MICDS or SLUH to see.

laxme
05-16-2006, 10:37 AM
Well the 2006 Missouri Lacrosse Playoffs are amongst us, and this year's field is one of the deepest & best in a while. Some interesting tidbits.

-MICDS is going for their first 3 peat, and MO's first since 1999- when DeSmet had a 4peat
-Rockhurst enters the playoffs with a 24 game winning streak- their last lost being to MICDS in last year's Semifinals
-8 of the 12 teams in this years' playoffs were in last year's
- #10 seed Ladue & #12 seed Springfield are making their first ever playoff appearances.
- SLUH's #2 seed is the highest seed ever for the Jr. Bills
- SLUH is looking to make their second ever Final 4 appearance, the other one came in 2001 when lost to DeSmet in the Semi's
- DeSmet & MICDS have gone to 13 consecutive Final 4's
- Rockhurst has made it to 8 consecutive Final 4's- First came in 1998
- Since 1996- DeSmet has 6 State Championships, MICDS-3 & Rockhurst 1

Best of luck to all schools. Should be exciting. Playoff & award predictions to come.

CoachFauss
05-16-2006, 11:05 AM
Some interesting tidbits.

- #10 seed Ladue & #12 seed Springfield are making their first ever playoff appearances.
- SLUH's #2 seed is the highest seed ever for the Jr. Bills
- Rockhurst has made it to 8 consecutive Final 4's- First came in 1998
- Since 1996- DeSmet has 6 State Championships, MICDS-3 & Rockhurst 1


Is there a history online somewhere about who has made the playoffs, final 4, state champ, etc?

I think Ladue might have made the playoffs before I was there (over 8 years ago) but I'm not sure.

Laxme, where did you get your info and if it's not online, is it something you could get to me?

laxme
05-16-2006, 12:56 PM
[QUOTE=CoachFauss]Is there a history online somewhere about who has made the playoffs, final 4, state champ, etc?

I think Ladue might have made the playoffs before I was there (over 8 years ago) but I'm not sure.[QUOTE=CoachFauss]


I encourage everyone to contact the molax.org webmaster asking him to put this stuff up on the website, and ask your coaches to submit this stuff to the league.

I get stuff from laxpower.com it goes back to 1999. I was going off of previous posts we had about Ladue, where you told me they hadn't gone. I believe Ladue's first year was 1997, and they didn't win many games back then.

Pottyboy55
05-16-2006, 01:06 PM
who reffed the Lafayette / Sluh game?

oh laxme, come on buddy, maybe I had prior engagements, like a job? school?

wolfie8914
05-16-2006, 01:20 PM
Don't have to hide you intentions here. We all know you play Laf on Thursday and want to know if he is going to play. But you should have been at either their game against MICDS or SLUH to see.


Alright then why did Albrecht have no stats against Kirkwood, Pembroke, Chaminade, SLUH, MICDS or Holt?

They win 18-1 and he doesn't get a shot or ground ball?

Pottyboy55
05-16-2006, 01:24 PM
Who reffed the Sluh / Lafayette game?
How does one find out?

CoachFauss
05-16-2006, 01:37 PM
I get stuff from laxpower.com it goes back to 1999. I was going off of previous posts we had about Ladue, where you told me they hadn't gone. I believe Ladue's first year was 1997, and they didn't win many games back then.

I found an old Stats Online (now Prep Sports) page from 1999 that has some interesting pictures:

http://prepsports3.stltoday.com/lacrosseboys/99/spotlights/laduesluh/page2.htm

The first picture is the son of a current ref, Doc Hartman.
The second picture is Ben Smith, current coach at Hazelwood.
The third picture is Bob Schulte's son.

There's more 1999 stuff at http://prepsports3.stltoday.com/lacrosseboys/99/
That was my first year as an assistant coach there. The All Americans from that year have some impressive names as well: John Hunt, Nick Silva, Pat Hogan. There's also a link to the tournament bracket from that year.

I can't find anything further back than 99 online - that might have been one of the first years that the paper had stats and info online.

I did ask Schulte if Ladue had ever made the playoffs and he told me they did but I don't know when that happened. I think it was 99 (when the system was much, much different from what it is now) that we might have made the playoffs had we won those last 2 games but we lost both of them by a goal.

Pottyboy55
05-16-2006, 01:49 PM
where did doc hartmans son go to school?

CoachFauss
05-16-2006, 02:02 PM
where did doc hartmans son go to school?

Pat Hartman went to Chaminade
Bob Schulte's son went to Burroughs

laxme
05-16-2006, 03:08 PM
Thanks for the link coach, that was a fun trip down memory lane. I did forget a couple players off my "all time" team: Phil Schaeffer '97 & Pete Lamb '96 from Lafayette. Lamb was huge went to Michigan State for year their last year as a program, got a big "S" tatoo, then transfered to Butler. Schaeffer was quick as heck, but too small for DI and didn't really play too much at Butler.

Coach, if you ever get the opportunity to hoist the cup, you will see all the state champions. Kirkwood & Lafayette were the dominant programs back in the day. Notice 2 public schools for those that say the sport is for preppies from private schools.

Eclipse
05-16-2006, 03:35 PM
Thanks for the link coach, that was a fun trip down memory lane. I did forget a couple players off my "all time" team: Phil Schaeffer '97 & Pete Lamb '96 from Lafayette. Lamb was huge went to Michigan State for year their last year as a program, got a big "S" tatoo, then transfered to Butler. Schaeffer was quick as heck, but too small for DI and didn't really play too much at Butler.

Coach, if you ever get the opportunity to hoist the cup, you will see all the state champions. Kirkwood & Lafayette were the dominant programs back in the day. Notice 2 public schools for those that say the sport is for preppies from private schools.

I would like to see the reign of private school state championships come to an end

laxme
05-16-2006, 03:41 PM
I think I have my awards ready. I don't like that MO chooses a random # of players of each position for all state. So I will give my top 3 with Honorable Mention

ALL STATE
ATTACK
BLUMENTHAL- Lafayette- has had an outstanding season, big #'s against the best D
LOOBY- Rockhurst- has played really well, Degan gets most of his points from him
COUCH- Parkway South- like Lonny has played well in the big games, not much help
HM
Burst- MICDS- injured, not consistent as last year, still a great player
Degan- Rockhurst- very good player, not afraid to play with the big boys despite size
Reinberg- DeSmet
Langan- SLUH

MIDFIELD
Brent Sear- Rockhurst- athletic, good shot on run, starts Rock O from Midfield
Hulsey- CBC- best player on CBC's team, he led this team always played hard
Koeneman- MICDS-
HM
Striler- MICDS, Bell- DeSmet, Cain- DeSmet

DEFENSE
Tallett- Ladue
Hampton- DeSmet
Harbison- MICDS

GOALIE
Yoon- SLUH
HM- Coleman- Rockhurst, Prey- Parkway Central

SPECIALIST
LSM- Reintjes- Rockhurst
FO- Hanapel- Rockhurst

ASSISTANT COACH OF THE YEAR- Ron Kelam- SLUH
COACH OF THE YEAR- Jay Coleman- Rockhurst

laxpc
05-16-2006, 04:21 PM
Who do you think are the top goalies in the area?

LaxWarrior20
05-16-2006, 04:51 PM
Sorry to change the subject but I feel the need to defend my team.

I play for the Fox Warriors. I have no shame in playing for this team. And to all of you who are talking bad about us on this forum, how can you say those things about us, when you're doing the same thing to us on the internet? I know that we don't play the cleanest game, and we're not that great compared to some of the top teams, but this year was by far our best year ever. We drastically reduced our penalties and amount of goals allowed. You could say we played a lot of middle and lower class teams, but coming off a 1 win and 15? loss season last year, we did pretty good this year. We almost made the freaking playoffs. We did have some bad games against teams, sportsmanship wise. We lost our tempers, and there is no excuse for that kind of behavior in a game, but the teams that we played didn't exactly help the situation by talking back to us and fighting us. There were at least two instances this season that we got cheap shotted and a fight broke out, and we provoked neither. Hopefully I don't see any more trash talk on Fox. I look forward to playing all of you next year.

-Kyle Denny #20
Varsity Defense

Eclipse
05-16-2006, 05:46 PM
laxme Lonny is a middie

Also if anyone cares Lafayette plays Ladue at Lafayette High school in the Stadium, not crestview 5:00

wolfie8914
05-16-2006, 06:41 PM
Eclipse how is the field at your stadium?

Eclipse
05-16-2006, 08:00 PM
Nice. Its a high school stadium so the grass is well kept, and flat. Rockwood School district ussually doesnt let there facilities be bad.

goalie33fan
05-16-2006, 08:10 PM
the field is perfect

CoachFauss
05-16-2006, 08:12 PM
Also if anyone cares Lafayette plays Ladue at Lafayette High school in the Stadium, not crestview 5:00

I was told that we were playing on the outfield of the JV baseball field - has it been moved to the stadium? I hope you're right because I'm guessing that's a nicer field.

Pottyboy55
05-16-2006, 08:22 PM
laxme, how do you know so much about high school lacrosse?

how many times have you hoisted the cup lately? "just wonderin"

Eclipse
05-16-2006, 08:31 PM
I was told that we were playing on the outfield of the JV baseball field - has it been moved to the stadium? I hope you're right because I'm guessing that's a nicer field.

Yes. It was moved.

MountainGoat22
05-16-2006, 08:40 PM
the Springfield vs. Pkwy South will be at CBC at 8 wednesday.

wolfie8914
05-16-2006, 08:51 PM
Who do you think are the top goalies in the area?


We talked about this earlier...

to recap:

coleman, yoon, you (prey), malashock, brunt

CoachFauss
05-16-2006, 08:53 PM
I think I have my awards ready. I don't like that MO chooses a random # of players of each position for all state.

That's not the case this year - we'll have 6 attack, 8 middies, 6 defensemen, 2 goalies and 2 specialists.

laxme
05-16-2006, 09:09 PM
laxme Lonny is a middie

I was under the impression that was a temporary change while Jehling was out. If so, I would keep him at middie- what good does it do to have him at attack if the defense can't get him the ball. That would also give him favorable dodging matchups, but I am pretty sure you are trying to blow smoke up everyone's skirt knowing the Ladue people are looking.

Teddy, I'll just the last time I hoisted the state championship you were on the sideline, and Hunt was juked about 8 times with about 4 seconds left on the clock.

Pottyboy55
05-16-2006, 09:16 PM
oooo, you're tight man. hahahaha. are you trying to tell me that either desmet or rockhurst scored a goal with 4 seconds left?

goalie33fan
05-16-2006, 09:19 PM
I was under the impression that was a temporary change while Jehling was out. If so, I would keep him at middie- what good does it do to have him at attack if the defense can't get him the ball. That would also give him favorable dodging matchups, but I am pretty sure you are trying to blow smoke up everyone's skirt knowing the Ladue people are looking.

Teddy, I'll just the last time I hoisted the state championship you were on the sideline, and Hunt was juked about 8 times with about 4 seconds left on the clock.
He is not joking. Lonnys a middie

What team do you play for?

Pottyboy55
05-16-2006, 09:20 PM
hey laxme, who are the coaches for SLUH?

Chaminademid
05-16-2006, 09:41 PM
Anyone know the faceoff stats from the Rockhurst/CBC game? Those were the top 2 specialists I'm aware of.

CoachFauss
05-16-2006, 09:55 PM
I was under the impression that was a temporary change while Jehling was out. If so, I would keep him at middie- what good does it do to have him at attack if the defense can't get him the ball. That would also give him favorable dodging matchups, but I am pretty sure you are trying to blow smoke up everyone's skirt knowing the Ladue people are looking.

Lonny is definitely a middie this year - that's where he's listed on the all-state ballot so there won't be any surprise when we play them and he's there.

As far as the rest of your predictions, at least some of them are wrong. You have some guys on your all-state team that aren't even on the ballot. 1 attackman (not Lonny), 4 of your middies, 1 D is listed as a specialist, the other isn't on there, you only get 2 goalies but all three are on the ballot, and 1 of your specialists isn't on there.

I don't know what other coaches do about announcing their all-conference players so I won't say anything specific about any players but I definitely think there were some surprises about the all-state ballot.

Eclipse
05-16-2006, 10:32 PM
Lonny is definitely a middie this year - that's where he's listed on the all-state ballot so there won't be any surprise when we play them and he's there.

As far as the rest of your predictions, at least some of them are wrong. You have some guys on your all-state team that aren't even on the ballot. 1 attackman (not Lonny), 4 of your middies, 1 D is listed as a specialist, the other isn't on there, you only get 2 goalies but all three are on the ballot, and 1 of your specialists isn't on there.

I don't know what other coaches do about announcing their all-conference players so I won't say anything specific about any players but I definitely think there were some surprises about the all-state ballot.


Should be interesting

wolfie8914
05-16-2006, 10:39 PM
Anyone know the faceoff stats from the Rockhurst/CBC game? Those were the top 2 specialists I'm aware of.

I think they should post f/o stats just as they would any other stat. They are easily just as important as groundballs...

Chaminademid
05-16-2006, 10:45 PM
I think they should post f/o stats just as they would any other stat. They are easily just as important as groundballs...

Agree....and then maybe I'd get on the page if we turned ours in haha

Menikmati18
05-17-2006, 02:35 AM
if anyone is interested check out this st. louis pick up thread i'm trying to start for the summer........http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=45899

falconslax
05-17-2006, 08:12 AM
Here is the playoff schedule from what I can find on molax.org and various team sites. Any changes or corrections?

1st Round

08) Hickman
09) Kirkwood
Thursday, May 18, 6:00pm @ Hinkson Field in Columbia

05) Parkway South
12) Springfield
Wednesday, May 17, 8:30pm @ CBC

06) Blue Valley West
11) CBC
Wednesday, May 17, 5:15pm @ Rockhurst

07) Lafayette
10) Ladue
Thursday, May 18, 5:00pm @ Lafayette

Quarterfinals

Hickman/Kirkwood vs. 1) Rockhurst
Saturday, May 20, 2:00pm

Springfield/Parkway South vs. 4) DeSmet

Blue Valley West/CBC vs. 3) MICDS

Lafayette/Ladue vs. 2) SLUH
Friday, May 19, 7:30pm

MountainGoat22
05-17-2006, 09:27 AM
Good luck to everyone. Should get interesting.

Chaminademid
05-17-2006, 01:13 PM
Where are the games tonight?

wolfie8914
05-17-2006, 02:52 PM
The only game tonite in STL is at CBC, P.south v. Springfield

pshlax18
05-17-2006, 04:28 PM
The only game tonite in STL is at CBC, P.south v. Springfield
the games @8:30

CoachFauss
05-17-2006, 09:13 PM
The only game tonite in STL is at CBC, P.south v. Springfield

4-1 Parkway South at the end of the first quarter
4-2 at halftime
5-4 Parkway South end of the third
7-4 in the fourth

Final - Parkway South 10, Springfield 7

Springfield is posting updates at the end of each quarter on their website
http://www.falconslax.com/

falconslax
05-17-2006, 09:55 PM
Thanks to Coach Fauss for the link.

In their first trip to the playoffs, (in only their second season of Varsity play), the Falcons came up short. The Parkway South Patriots defeated the Springfield Falcons, 10-7.

Thanks to Parkway South for working with the Falcons to get this game played late in the evening so we could make the trip. Best of the luck to Parkway South and the remaining teams in the tournament.

Bob Jordan
Springfield Falcons Webmaster
http://www.falconslax.com

wolfie8914
05-17-2006, 10:16 PM
Anybody go to the P. South/Springfield game? I wanted to go to the game but i couldnt.

How did South play? Comments?

laxdefense5
05-17-2006, 10:36 PM
is there a website to go to that shows who made all conference..

PshLax12
05-17-2006, 10:45 PM
P sout 10 Glendale 7
We Started out hot but didn't play very well overall

CoachFauss
05-17-2006, 11:01 PM
is there a website to go to that shows who made all conference..

last year it was listed under "awards" on the molax website - it's not there yet.

CoachFauss
05-17-2006, 11:24 PM
anyone know what happened in the CBC/Blue Valley West game?

CoachFauss
05-17-2006, 11:50 PM
anyone know what happened in the CBC/Blue Valley West game?

Got an update that CBC won 12-11. Hopefully someone that was there will post some more info about the game.

pshlax18
05-18-2006, 12:17 AM
in the south vs springfield game, it was the cleanest game i have ever been in. springfields players knew how to play the game without being cheap and simply played the game. if its really their 2nd year playing im amazed. very respectable team. i had players after the game when i was going to my car congratulating me and wishing me luck in the rest of the playoffs. that takes some class and obviously they had it. props to u guys springfield.

MountainGoat22
05-18-2006, 09:40 AM
thanks a lot pshlax.

falconslax said we came up short...which came across wrong I think. We came up short in that game yes, but damn, look where we were. 2nd year as a varsity team and we are in the playoffs with teams that have been doin it for a LOT longer.

I agree, it was one of the cleanest games I have ever been in, all the Psouth guys were super nice and knew a lot about the game. Congrats to them. We played on a kick *** field under the lights so the game was a lot of fun, even if we lost. Good lucky to everyone the rest of the way.

-Grant. Springfield Falcons #26

laxattack1414
05-18-2006, 10:04 AM
I agree. Their defenders were some of the nicest i've played against this year. I wish yall luck in the play-offs and take it to Desmet guys. Also thanks for letting us play on that way sweet field.

Nick #14

PshLax12
05-18-2006, 03:12 PM
hey are you all right? I remember you got hurt.

MountainGoat22
05-18-2006, 03:43 PM
Just realized that you guys will be playing DeSmet in the same bracket as you did last year. Take it to em this time.

Eclipse
05-18-2006, 07:14 PM
Lafayette 8 Ladue 5

I have to give mad props to Ladue. They came out 4-1 at the end of the first quarter and played good. I also have to say that they were the classiest, not smack talking, all around good guy team we have played this year.

The Tallet-Blumenthal matchup was sick. Both played about as good as they could and i do now beleive Tallet is the best Defenseman in the state. Lonny had 5 goals in the matchup.

Great game Coach Fauss, Wolfie, Pottyboy.

Lafayette Vs SLUH 7:30 at SLUH

fenderstrat3578
05-18-2006, 07:50 PM
if lonny scored 5 on the Tallet matchup, then obviously it wasnt Ians best game, considering he was on Lonny last year and basically shut him out...

as for the P south Springfield game, it was pretty sloppy all around. lots of stupid plays and shots.

im not bringing anybody out but SOMEBODY on the forums got a 3 min non releasable illegal stick penalty. LOL no hard feelings pshlax18

Eclipse
05-18-2006, 07:59 PM
Yea Lonny did score 5 points on the Tallet matchup, and it prolly wasnt Tallets best game, but alot changes from last year to this year.

CoachFauss
05-18-2006, 08:08 PM
Yea Lonny did score 5 points on the Tallet matchup, and it prolly wasnt Tallets best game, but alot changes from last year to this year.

I think Ian has a good chance at all-american this year but I think he put it best at the end of the game when he said, "he has my vote for all-world."

Congrats to Lafayette on a great comeback and I want to publicly thank all of my kids again on a great season. You took Ladue to new levels this year and set the bar high for future Ladue teams.

Good luck to everyone in the playoffs - I have a few personal favorites from here on out but I'd like to see a strong, competitive tournament and I think there will still be some surprises before it's all done.

Already looking forward to next year,

Coach Fauss

laxattack1414
05-18-2006, 09:17 PM
Yeah i'm fine. a cleat just came down on my ankle no big deal just a little sore. I appreciate ya asking. When do yall play Desmet? what number were you pshlax12?

Laxer87
05-18-2006, 09:58 PM
lafayette vs. ladue great game.... battle of the best Lonny vs Ian... great game ladue you guys really stepped it up this year!

laxdefense5
05-18-2006, 09:58 PM
saturday 3 at de smet is when the game is

mlax
05-18-2006, 10:08 PM
if lonny scored 5 on the Tallet matchup, then obviously it wasnt Ians best game, considering he was on Lonny last year and basically shut him out...

as for the P south Springfield game, it was pretty sloppy all around. lots of stupid plays and shots.

im not bringing anybody out but SOMEBODY on the forums got a 3 min non releasable illegal stick penalty. LOL no hard feelings pshlax18


Lonnie had 2 goals against MICDS (Tallet) and a couple of assists last year (look at archives) - this year 5 goals. End of story !

wolfie8914
05-18-2006, 10:10 PM
When is the SLUH v. Lafayette game?

PshLax12
05-18-2006, 10:37 PM
if lonny scored 5 on the Tallet matchup, then obviously it wasnt Ians best game, considering he was on Lonny last year and basically shut him out...

as for the P south Springfield game, it was pretty sloppy all around. lots of stupid plays and shots.

im not bringing anybody out but SOMEBODY on the forums got a 3 min non releasable illegal stick penalty. LOL no hard feelings pshlax18


HAHA yeah the restof the game he played with a pink stick

CoachFauss
05-18-2006, 10:42 PM
When is the SLUH v. Lafayette game?

friday night at 7 or 7:30

PTH
05-18-2006, 11:02 PM
its at 7:30

Pottyboy55
05-18-2006, 11:23 PM
laxme, who are the coaches for Sluh?

laxme
05-19-2006, 06:28 AM
Robert Palmer is the head coach of SLUH, kind of in title only
Ron Kelam & Kozminski- I believe are the assistants on Varsity.

goalie33fan
05-19-2006, 07:05 AM
laxme, were you and your team at our game last night because a few of us couldn't tell who the group of people were under the home of the lancers sign?

falconslax
05-19-2006, 08:15 AM
Anyone know the Hickman vs. Kirkwood score?

pshlax18
05-19-2006, 10:40 AM
if lonny scored 5 on the Tallet matchup, then obviously it wasnt Ians best game, considering he was on Lonny last year and basically shut him out...

as for the P south Springfield game, it was pretty sloppy all around. lots of stupid plays and shots.

im not bringing anybody out but SOMEBODY on the forums got a 3 min non releasable illegal stick penalty. LOL no hard feelings pshlax18

yea... i have a revo pro and anyone who has that head notices that it's as pinched as it can be, but still legal. But the problem is at random, it gets stuck. I got my other stick fixed and its trowin perfectly and it's completely legal so that won't happen again. The stick that i got to use the rest of the game was my buddies older bros and it was amazing so i was kinda happy i got the penalty. haha.

kojak89
05-19-2006, 11:03 AM
Hickman-8 Kirkwood-5

Eclipse
05-19-2006, 11:21 AM
Hickman-8 Kirkwood-5

Congrats good luck vs Rockhurst

Laxer87
05-19-2006, 04:42 PM
lafayette vs. SLUH game tonight, 7:30 at SLUH, will be the conference championship rematch....

Pottyboy55
05-19-2006, 06:35 PM
dude, who gives a ****? they both are ridiculous athletes, hands down...

Pottyboy55
05-19-2006, 06:38 PM
sluh better run a zone defense, and lock down the crease when lonny is on the field

wolfie8914
05-19-2006, 10:26 PM
lafayette 9 sluh 11

yeah potty they ran a zone at the end to shut down lonny and yoon had a sick game

goaliedude13
05-19-2006, 10:53 PM
It seems to me that hickman is not a team to be takin likley, they beat kirkwood and psouth, sounds like they have some talent. Very shocked they beat kirkwood.

wolfie8914
05-20-2006, 12:41 AM
Is anybody doing this STL Samurai thing? I got the flyer saying the tryouts for the team is at Parkway NE middle school on saturday afternoon. I am interested but I just wanted to know if there are gonna be alot of players there.

Chaminademid
05-20-2006, 12:45 AM
Im trying out for it as a faceoff specialist.

PshLax12
05-20-2006, 12:56 AM
some psouth guys are trying out but not saturday because we play desmet

Eclipse
05-20-2006, 01:19 AM
anyone doing new jersey tri state thing aside from me?

Pottyboy55
05-20-2006, 02:52 AM
there are about 17 others doing it. It's going to be a great experience.

mlax
05-20-2006, 09:15 AM
lafayette 9 sluh 11

yeah potty they ran a zone at the end to shut down lonny and yoon had a sick game

Yes...Yoon played eceptionally well. SLUH's depth was certainly the difference over a "banged-up" and less experienced varsity squad from Lafayette. Lafayette played their hearts out. The only down-side of the game was the blatant "head-hunting" ENCOURAGED by the head coach of SLUH. I asked a dad who was score-keeping how many penalties SLUH had. He thought they had 17 or 18. Out of the 17 or 18, 7 or more were unnecessary roughness and conduct. 4 were late hits on Lonny and 2 were late hits on Jehling. Playing tough defense is one thing....encouraging players to hurt someone is another. The SLUH players deserved to win, as they played better and had a good day with ground balls. Congrats to the team....the league should keep their eyes open about coaches like this. You never see DeSmet, MICDS, Lafayette, CBC, and many other schools (even the powerful Rockhurst) deliberately go after the opposing team's better players.

richj
05-20-2006, 10:00 AM
Boy oh boy are you right, mlax. What a bunch of crap form the SLUH Coach. If I'm not mistaken, Lonny had 2 goals and 2 assists and Jehling had 2 goals and 1 assist. Yes, they slowed these two standouts down a bit, but the late hits were disgusting and in very poor tatse. No wonder they got so many unsportsmanlkie penalties. Hope they (sluh) gets beat in the semi's. Good bye, sluh. Don't embarrass our league.

sluhlax07
05-20-2006, 10:37 AM
deliberatey go after the opposing teams better payers? i don't know how you all got ahold of our game plan, but man, kudos to you. that is exactly what we were trying to do!!! all we practiced this week was how to take someones knees out... are you serious?

it's really insulting to think that someone would believe that sort of thing about anyone in this league. you can think what you want, but no one was "deiberatey going after the opposing teams better players." im not saying that no one did things they shouldnt have, it was a chippy game, but anything of the sort was done completely in the heat of the moment. to say that hurting someone was our game plan, or that it was all premeditated is completely unbased and untrue. our coaches would NEVER "encourage" something like that, and i really think people should keep their mouths shut on things that they obviously are competely ignorant about.

Eclipse
05-20-2006, 10:45 AM
I commend SLUH on a good game, Yoon played great as always.

http://prepsports3.stltoday.com/lacrosseboys/06/stats/event243256.shtm

Thats a link to the Box Score, Lafayette had a total of 6 different scorers, which in my opinions is a great job. There were alot of late hits, i was on the receiving end of one of these after my goal late in the 4th quarter. Whether or not it was meant to "Hurt me" or the kid just did on accident, im not sure.

Anyway sucks that this is likely going to be an all private school final four, but good luck to all.

Laxer87
05-20-2006, 11:03 AM
good luck for the rest of the teams in the playoffs....P. South give DeSmet Hell....

Eclipse
05-20-2006, 02:35 PM
http://www.insidelacrosse.com/page.cfm?pagerid=2&news=fdetail&storyid=127530

Rockhurst makes Inside Lacrosse top 25 Honorable Mention making them, likely, a top 50 team in the nation. I think this is a first for Missouri

goalie33fan
05-20-2006, 04:31 PM
Jaron, there 20th in the nation.

Chaminademid
05-20-2006, 06:45 PM
Jaron, there 20th in the nation.

19th on laxpower

pshgiant
05-20-2006, 07:28 PM
who won the psh desmet game?

laxdefense5
05-20-2006, 07:37 PM
de smet won 13 to 3 today vs p south

Pottyboy55
05-20-2006, 09:55 PM
micds / desmet / rockhurst always show up in the playoffs..... regardless of the regular season.

p.s. Sluh is gettin twerked on wednesday

Laxer87
05-20-2006, 10:27 PM
desmet won 13-3? was P.South just out played? what happend in the game..

laxdefense5
05-21-2006, 01:22 AM
p souths only 3 offensive players (couch whitehead and self) became overwhelemed and frustrated because they were all completely shut down...it was close at first and the score was 6-2 at halftime...in the second half they started to force passes and de smet possessed the ball
there was a point where de smet was 3 man down and was still able to keep south from scoring

kyle gould, souths goalie, had an outstanding game regardless the score. if you put him behind a good defense he could really keep the score low

pshlax18
05-21-2006, 01:35 AM
actually, it wasnt bcuz our "only 3 offensive players" were mad, its cuz we got beat on every single face off so we never got a possesion right off the bat. we were on defense most of the game because of this. So good job on face offs. ill give ya that.

Laxer87
05-21-2006, 10:19 AM
what were some other scores... Rockhurst/ hickman game and MICDS/ CBC

laxdefense5
05-21-2006, 10:24 AM
MICDS- 14, CBC- 4
Rockhurst- 17, Hickman- 3

Eclipse
05-21-2006, 11:20 AM
Jaron, there 20th in the nation.

Acup, that is a power ranking, thats not there actual ranking. A computer says there 19th in the nation but in reality there not. If you go to the link i provided those are the real top 25, with honorable mention decided by coaches.

goalie33fan
05-21-2006, 02:34 PM
Acup, that is a power ranking, thats not there actual ranking. A computer says there 19th in the nation but in reality there not. If you go to the link i provided those are the real top 25, with honorable mention decided by coaches.
oh, ok. I didnt know.

PTH
05-21-2006, 02:51 PM
...The only down-side of the game was the blatant "head-hunting" ENCOURAGED by the head coach of SLUH. I asked a dad who was score-keeping how many penalties SLUH had. He thought they had 17 or 18. Out of the 17 or 18, 7 or more were unnecessary roughness and conduct. 4 were late hits on Lonny and 2 were late hits on Jehling. Playing tough defense is one thing....encouraging players to hurt someone is another.

I understand the position that you are coming from but please dont leave this game with the impression that we were "head hunting." We did have around 17 penalties to lafayette's 6-7, but alot of the calls against sluh were not deserved. I dont think that there were 4 unnecessary roughness calls on lonny. The conduct call that we recieved were mostly from the 4th quarter when our coaches were getting sick of the way the game was being called. We recieved 3-4 conduct calls in the last 2 minutes for saying, "sir that has to be a trip/push/failure to advance." We were called on that because it was not our head coach talking to the ref, and because tim markhum was on a power trip. Lafayette was also on the receiving end of unfair calls. In the 4th quarter lafayette received a number of calls that appeared to be make-up calls for the number of calls against us in the 1st half. Regardless, it was a good game lafayette.

TitanLax
05-21-2006, 05:39 PM
slightly off subject, but for those of u who r fans of SLU, Desmet, or Rockhurst check out the Midwest Jesuit Tourney thread, regarding a Jesuit tourney and a "what if" on if a tourney was to be played now

OAKlax06
05-22-2006, 01:17 PM
hey im from Texas and im playing at fontbonne next year. I was just in missouri this weekend and met a couple players but was wondering who else was on the team.

POCK3Ts
05-22-2006, 07:27 PM
when are the next two play off games i know one is wed but dunnno the time or when the other one is

STLGURU
05-22-2006, 07:48 PM
SLUH vs MICDS 6PM at Wash U on Wednesday

Rock vs Desmet 8PM at Wash U on Wednesday

Championship Game at 1PM at Wash U on Saturday

jaguar32
05-23-2006, 01:29 AM
Having seen all the teams in the final 4, here are my predictions for this week:

MICDS v. SLUH
Despite being the second seed, MICDS has the playoff experience and the players that will pull them ahead in this matchup. MICDS looks to finish their season strong with a three-peat and under seasoned players such as Burst, they will be too much for the Jr. Billikans. MICDS wins by 7.

Rockhurst v. DeSmet
A strong jesuit matchup, earlier in the season the hawklets triumphed by 10 and seem to be unstoppable this season. The offense, however, is fueled by Degen who went down early in the first quarter of the Hickman game, and never came back. His condition could be crucial to a hawklet victory. A strong Rockhurst defense will have to step into play to shutdown the DeSmet offense which seems to have clicked recently. Depending on Degen's condition, Rockhurst by 4

Eclipse
05-23-2006, 02:05 PM
Having seen all the teams in the final 4, here are my predictions for this week:

MICDS v. SLUH
Despite being the second seed, MICDS has the playoff experience and the players that will pull them ahead in this matchup. MICDS looks to finish their season strong with a three-peat and under seasoned players such as Burst, they will be too much for the Jr. Billikans. MICDS wins by 7.

Rockhurst v. DeSmet
A strong jesuit matchup, earlier in the season the hawklets triumphed by 10 and seem to be unstoppable this season. The offense, however, is fueled by Degen who went down early in the first quarter of the Hickman game, and never came back. His condition could be crucial to a hawklet victory. A strong Rockhurst defense will have to step into play to shutdown the DeSmet offense which seems to have clicked recently. Depending on Degen's condition, Rockhurst by 4

MICDS by 4 and Rockhurst by 6

MountainGoat22
05-23-2006, 06:09 PM
when do the 2006 awards come out?

PshLax12
05-23-2006, 07:03 PM
im sry when are the games

wednesday?

laxdefense5
05-23-2006, 07:59 PM
they announce them after the state game saturday

micds plays sluh tomorow 6 at wash u
desmet plays rockhurst tomorow 8 at wash u

Eclipse
05-23-2006, 09:05 PM
Well we found out from our team who got what for awards

No surprises really

JBills33
05-23-2006, 09:23 PM
Does anyone know if Burst is back for tomorrow night?

POCK3Ts
05-23-2006, 10:05 PM
back i know he played last saturday and he was only in till like middle of 3rd quarter because they were winnin by enough.
so i would assume he is playin

wglax18
05-24-2006, 10:22 PM
micds 9 sluh 3
rockhurst 10 desmet 3

Eclipse
05-24-2006, 10:26 PM
Rockhurst was dominant, degen is a hoss.

P.S Coach Fauss thanks for the White Castle

CoachFauss
05-24-2006, 10:38 PM
Rockhurst was dominant, degen is a hoss.

P.S Coach Fauss thanks for the White Castle

No problem - didn't want anyone to be hungry...

Hope everyone comes out to watch the game Saturday - I think it's going to be a great game but I'm definitely pulling for my alma mater. It's going to be a battle for bragging rights among the Ladue coaches.

Pottyboy55
05-24-2006, 11:26 PM
we'll see, faussypants.
win or lose saturday..... micds has appeared in 5 straight State titles... pretty decent program, yah?

wolfie8914
05-25-2006, 12:13 AM
If Fauss brings me White Castle i'll root for Rockhurst.


no really I will.

CoachFauss
05-25-2006, 01:08 AM
If Fauss brings me White Castle i'll root for Rockhurst.


no really I will.

Done. That's at least one more Rockhurst fan there. Anyone else?

And yes Mr. Potter (or should I call you pottypants?), MICDS is a great program with a great history - no denying that. I just think this is the year for Rockhurst but this should be their toughest game of the season - exactly what I like to see in a state championship game.

Hope everyone makes it out Saturday - I'll bring the White Castles, no matter who you're rooting for, and you bring a bunch of enthusiasm to cheer on these teams. Just give me the heads up so I know how many crave cases we need for the tailgate party at Wash U.

Eclipse
05-25-2006, 02:24 AM
im there, white castle or not i want to see rock go undfefeated

p.s i want white castle

RockLaxx21
05-25-2006, 02:49 AM
We dont have white castle in Kansas City, atleast ive never seen one. Mind grabbing me a couple sliders? I am sure it would be perfect pregame meal for saturday

CoachFauss
05-25-2006, 06:43 AM
We dont have white castle in Kansas City, atleast ive never seen one. Mind grabbing me a couple sliders? I am sure it would be perfect pregame meal for saturday

There used to be a couple - one in Blue Springs and one near Metcalf and 89th Street - but they both closed.

And no, you definitely don't want to eat that before the game - have someone pick up them up for the ride home. You might not be out there for the second half if you eat them before the game.

TitanLax
05-25-2006, 08:37 AM
All I gotta say is go Rockhurst! My dad, uncles, and now cousins go there, and i love the school (if I lived in KC like the rest of my fam i'd b there). good luck to the hawklets.

Eclipse
05-25-2006, 11:54 AM
I am really excited to see this matchup, both teams won pretty easily, so I think its fair to say they are the top 2 teams. Also anyone else playing in the senior all star game?

Rocklaxx21-nice on faceoffs, are any of your seniors playing anywhere? I didnt expect Looby to be so big, fun game to watch.

pshlax18
05-25-2006, 06:49 PM
my guess is rockhurst by 4

LaxBeast
05-26-2006, 03:42 AM
From what I have seen, Rockhurst doesn't have the stones to man up and beat a quality team like MICDS. They can't put together a full game. Either the D or the O has a good game....but not in the same game. The attack for Rockhurst are lazy and don't ride at all, and the D are selfish and try to score rather then get the ball to the shorts. The midfield takes dumb shots after the team has been running, and they clearly are not well coached. Maybe I'm wrong, but they don't seem like a team, but rather two seperate units vying for the highest praises.

Pottyboy55
05-26-2006, 09:14 AM
when do the QC and Nipher leagues start?

STLGURU
05-26-2006, 10:05 AM
I don't care who you are. This is a classic battle between the little underdog and the undefeated favorite and you have to root for the underdog.

Rockhurst draws 500 boys from each grade. MICDS draws about 70 boys per class if they're lucky. Despite the 2 straight titles, MICDS is the underdog this year, and we all know we want to see the underdog take it home. It's going to be fun to watch.

Good luck to both teams.

Eclipse
05-26-2006, 12:10 PM
I dont really care who wins. If Rockhurst wins, they go undefeated and put on the best the season missouri has possibly ever seen.

If MICDS wins, we know that they officially have made a dynasty, and prove no matter the team, they can beat anyone.

Chaminademid
05-26-2006, 01:01 PM
Rockhurst does not have 500 boys per grade...that would mean they have 2,000 boys, which means their official mshsaa enrollment would be like 5,000 and DeSmet is the largest with around 3800 adjusted enrollment.

Im gonna say 10-4 Rockhurst.
Im also gonna say that the total number of goals put up in this contest will be less than what virginia scores tomorrow too.

CoachFauss
05-26-2006, 03:23 PM
I don't care who you are. This is a classic battle between the little underdog and the undefeated favorite and you have to root for the underdog.

Rockhurst draws 500 boys from each grade. MICDS draws about 70 boys per class if they're lucky. Despite the 2 straight titles, MICDS is the underdog this year, and we all know we want to see the underdog take it home. It's going to be fun to watch.

Good luck to both teams.

First of all, Rockhurst has 1035 total students, not 2000.

And the little underdog??? They've won 2 straight state titles so I would hardly call them an underdog. And I think everyone here knows I won't be rooting for the "underdog."

I will agree that it's going to be fun.

POCK3Ts
05-26-2006, 08:47 PM
im gonna say 10-9 micds goin out on a limb but i mean i really dont care just like eclipse said either way one team will prove they can beat anyone and they deserve the title. im thinking its gonna be really close but if not its gonna be a blow out.

POCK3Ts
05-26-2006, 08:54 PM
have the all state and all american awards been decided yet. im pretty sure state has already been decided but never actually saw the list does anyone know where its at or if its even up???

CoachFauss
05-26-2006, 10:05 PM
have the all state and all american awards been decided yet. im pretty sure state has already been decided but never actually saw the list does anyone know where its at or if its even up???

Coaches were given the all-state list. It'll be announced tomorrow after the Championship game and so will the All-Americans. It should be posted on molax.org sometime after tomorrow.

CoachFauss
05-27-2006, 03:29 PM
Rockhurst 19 - MICDS 4

So much for a close game...

MountainGoat22
05-27-2006, 03:32 PM
wow..just wow. Now how about that AS list?

Eclipse
05-27-2006, 04:23 PM
Yea. Rape.

Eclipse
05-27-2006, 04:35 PM
Me: I wanna see if Rockhurst can throw in 20 on them

Pottyboy: Dude, shut the F@*! up.

wolfie8914
05-27-2006, 05:59 PM
Can someone post All-American list?

Pottyboy55
05-27-2006, 06:01 PM
ohhhhhhhhh tight
quick to post to the lax forums,
cool bro

and it's teddy potter, you can call me out by my name cuz

props to rockhood

Tri State word

MountainGoat22
05-27-2006, 06:19 PM
Come on Coach Fauss, we know you know.

Eclipse
05-27-2006, 06:27 PM
ohhhhhhhhh tight
quick to post to the lax forums,
cool bro

and it's teddy potter, you can call me out by my name cuz

props to rockhood

Tri State word


lol i know your name, but for the forums sake, i thought i would call you pottyboy. It was a joke, i was hardly calling you out. Cya at practice.

Eclipse
05-27-2006, 06:27 PM
All americans
Lonny
Couch
Spencer
Degen
Some rockhurst defensman

MountainGoat22
05-27-2006, 06:49 PM
All-state?

wolfie8914
05-27-2006, 07:21 PM
All-state?

All state was released like a week ago...

MountainGoat22
05-27-2006, 07:52 PM
Then show me where its posted.

CoachFauss
05-27-2006, 09:15 PM
All state was released like a week ago...

All state was released to the coaches but not publicly and we were told to keep the list confidential, with the exception of our own players, until today.

Here's the complete list - sorry about the formatting but I'm copying from Excel:

1st Team All State
Lonny Blumenthal Lafayette 12 Midfield
Colin Looby Rockhurst 11 Midfield
Nick Bova CBC 12 Midfield
Sam Striler MICDS 12 Midfield
Kevin Bell DeSmet 12 Midfield
Schaffer Degan Rockhurst 12 Attack
Brent Sear Rockhurst 12 Attack
Kenny Burst MICDS 12 Attack
Steve Couch Parkway South 12 Attack
Kyle Hirsch Lafayette 12 Defense
Spencer Walsh Rockhurst 12 Defense
Todd Hope Webster Groves 12 Defense
Mark Prey Parkway Central 11 Goalie
Spencer Hampton DeSmet 12 Specialist

2nd Team All State
Matt Meiners St. Louis Univ. HS 12 Midfield
Gerry Jehling Lafayette 11 Midfield
Reily Hannapel Rockhurst 11 Midfield
Carter Sapp Clayton 12 Midfield
Ryan Self Parkway South 11 Midfield
Alex Brescia St. Louis Univ. HS 12 Attack
Kevin Looby Rockhurst 12 Attack
Ryan Hulsey CBC 12 Attack
Mike Reinberg DeSmet 12 Attack
Mark Oleshefski Rockhurst 12 Defense
Ian Tallet Ladue 12 Defense
Jim Bunten DeSmet 12 Defense
Matt Yoon St. Louis Univ. HS 12 Goalie
Jason Coleman Rockhurst 12 Goalie
Paul Reintjes Rockhurst 11 Specialist


I never got a list with the All-Americans and don't remember it exactly from the post-game but I think the list that was posted is pretty close. Academic All Americans were Alex Brescia and Jason Coleman I think.

MountainGoat22
05-27-2006, 09:55 PM
Sweet, thanks.

laxme
05-29-2006, 09:02 AM
I have no problem with the players on the all state list, all seem deserving. However, I find it interesting that this year they added a 2nd team list, but still had 4-5 guys at each position. Sometimes you have to make tough decisions, yes some people will be upset that their guy didn't make it, but now basically any above average player makes all-state. It is not that great of a distinction when 30 guys are "all state". It should be the best 10 players in the state, and be done with it.

thedamnedfan
05-29-2006, 02:45 PM
Any kids from Shawnee MIssion East here?

POCK3Ts
05-30-2006, 12:07 AM
I have no problem with the players on the all state list, all seem deserving. However, I find it interesting that this year they added a 2nd team list, but still had 4-5 guys at each position. Sometimes you have to make tough decisions, yes some people will be upset that their guy didn't make it, but now basically any above average player makes all-state. It is not that great of a distinction when 30 guys are "all state". It should be the best 10 players in the state, and be done with it.

i do agreet aht 30 is to many but think 10 is to few. i think that there should be 20 players.

Chaminademid
05-30-2006, 07:44 AM
Id make it 22, a first team and second team.

3 attack
3 mids
3 poles
1 goalie
1 specialist

for each, maybe add another midfielder so you could have a D mid on there.

Eclipse
05-30-2006, 01:04 PM
2 Specialist

LSM
F/O

POCK3Ts
05-30-2006, 07:37 PM
yeah chaminademid that makes sense but i agree with eclipse u should have one face off and on LSM

Chaminademid
05-31-2006, 08:03 AM
yeah I just dont see them giving f/o and LSM the respect they deserve as individual positions.

anyone know what time the samurais tryout is tomorrow?

Eclipse
05-31-2006, 12:19 PM
website says 5:30-8:00

fenderstrat3578
05-31-2006, 03:47 PM
yeah I just dont see them giving f/o and LSM the respect they deserve as individual positions.

anyone know what time the samurais tryout is tomorrow?


anybody know where it is?

POCK3Ts
05-31-2006, 04:38 PM
who else besides u jaron is goin to fontbonne next year??

wglax18
05-31-2006, 05:33 PM
the mert man from webster is going to fontbonne

fenderstrat3578
05-31-2006, 05:37 PM
like where are the tryouts

pshwarriorlax17
05-31-2006, 07:40 PM
chris whitehead and steve couch are both going to Fontbonne

PshLax12
05-31-2006, 09:03 PM
The samaruis tryouts are tomorow the 1st 6:00-8:00 pm At Mensis park i think thats what its called. Its on marshall road between big bend and 141

Chaminademid
06-01-2006, 01:40 AM
Alright thanks guys and good luck to everyone

wolfie8914
06-01-2006, 03:01 PM
Are tryouts still on for samurai?...its raining like crazy and Mensis park is right next to the meremac and probably flooded.

Chaminademid
06-01-2006, 03:25 PM
I dont know man, I've been wondering too

PshLax12
06-01-2006, 04:01 PM
Go to Mensis Park and the coaches will tell us if theyre cancelled or if were having them indoors

fenderstrat3578
06-01-2006, 04:32 PM
wait it says simpson park next to green tree park