Top String/ Sidewall/ Bottom String Help Thread

[gigo567]

This thread is made for people to post and ask about top string, sidewalls or bottom strings. Or post pics of top strings, sidewalls or bottom strings.

Example: I have a problem with my P2's bottom string, how do I string it.

Or

Example: Here is a picture of one of the ways to string the P2's bottom string [insert pic].

This can help people get answers easier and cut down on threads asking the same questions.

[crazydrew86]

i just want to say this was an excellent idea for a thread and if it does indeed have the posative impact in which i foresee happening this should become stickied. but for now it is way to soon to tell this being the first post in the thread

[gigo567]

i just want to say this was an excellent idea for a thread and if it does indeed have the posative impact in which i foresee happening this should become stickied. but for now it is way to soon to tell this being the first post in the thread
Thanks, when I get back to Cali I am going to post pics of how to do the P2's bottom string.

[kingdawgell]

its just a shame that when people search "how do i string the bottom string on a p2 lol rofl lmao" they wont come up with this

i seriously doubt anyone who says they searched and didnt find anything searched right... as in like three words or less

[gigo567]

its just a shame that when people search "how do i string the bottom string on a p2 lol rofl lmao" they wont come up with this

i seriously doubt anyone who says they searched and didnt find anything searched right... as in like three words or less
No, when you search it looks for thread titles and words in threads that match the search.

EDIT: Just tried it, typed in 'p2 bottom string' and this thread appeared in the results.

EDIT: Also if a Mod stickies this it would always be at the top of the page.

[crazydrew86]

TOPSTRING:

when you do the topstring the first thing you have to do is tye the mesh to the sidewall. First you tye the knot and send it through the whole then you come up from below the diamond and through the outsde of the whole. then you come back through the whole here is a pic that will help explain better
<a href="http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=topstring12tt.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9448/topstring12tt.th.jpg" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>

once you get the mesh tied to the sidewall you will have to attach it to the lip of the stick. there are many ways to do this and i will show you a few:

the basic way of doing this is like this
<a href="http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=topstring26ss.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/2125/topstring26ss.th.jpg" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>

then there is doubling up at the top which is just doing the basic topstring twice. it looks like this
<a href="http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=topstring34eq.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/3823/topstring34eq.th.jpg" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>
then there are these also are just variations of the basic topstring. here are some pics
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/6231/topstring42sf.th.jpg (http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=topstring42sf.jpg)
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/4991/topstring56en.th.jpg (http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=topstring56en.jpg)

ZIG ZAG
you can only do a zig zag topstring if you have a warrior,brine,gait/debbeer head the stx heads topstring hole dont accomodate this style of topstring.
in order to do a zig zag topstring you will need a little mor string than you would if you were going to do a normal topstring. you start buy tying the mesh to the had as shown above but i will post it again
[http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/676/topstring224hd.th.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=topstring224hd.jpg)
then you go through the first top hole and and come down threw the third whole from the end
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9369/topstring338io.th.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=topstring338io.jpg)
continue that until it looks like this
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4276/topstring447ui.th.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=topstring447ui.jpg)
then tie it off the same way you did at the begining and if you need more specific pics just pm me then you come back the other wayand go through the same whole your started in. this is what the final product looks like this.
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5537/topstring555uz.th.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=topstring555uz.jpg)
http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/9752/topstring661ea.th.jpg (http://img466.imageshack.us/my.php?image=topstring661ea.jpg)







i will add and edit this if i forgot anything just let me know. and sorry about the pics i took them on my camera phone

[AttackMan17]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b23/AttackMan17/2887d9bb.jpg
Viola, bottom string. Very easy.

[NuKoN]

A look at the bottom string on my PP, from the back.

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8762/nissalexsii3qc.jpg

[zanderaruba]

here is my bottom string on my p2:

[crazydrew86]

THE SIDEWALLS

there are numerous ways to do sidewalls and i will do my best to explain them to you.

STARTING OFF

the first thing you do no matter what the style of stringing is put the string through the first open whole at the top of the head. then you pull the string up from under the first diamond andlock down the second diamond. her is a pic a am doing it in red to show it more clearly.
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/3924/sidewall19te.th.jpg (http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sidewall19te.jpg)

LOCKED DOWN
locked down is continuing to do the sidewall the same as you did the second diamond all the way down the stick. when you want to make a pocket you skip a whole where you want it. continue this all the way to the bottom.

not where you want the pocket
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6330/sidewall21su.th.jpg (http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sidewall21su.jpg)
where you want the pocket
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/970/sidewall15ii.th.jpg (http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sidewall15ii.jpg)

GIANT POCKET orange way
i developed this stringing style way before i joined the forums but now i guess i know its name. this style IMO is the easiest styleof stringing. after you do the first two diamonds like shown obove you continue going through one diamond until you get to where you want to make the pocket then you double up on the diamonds.
where you dont want the pocket
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where you want the pocket
REGULAR
i guess this is what you call regular but regular is relative to the person. ok enough of that to string the sidewalls regulare you start off the same way you would if you were doing any other type. instead of going over then down through the wholes you go up from the bottom then down from the top my pictures will better explain
this pic isnt the best but if you look to the far right you will see how to do it where you dont want the pocket, and in the middle of the pic it shows where you want the pocket
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/6093/12nt2.th.jpg (http://img110.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12nt2.jpg)

[gigo567]

This thread is off to a good start. :thumbsup:

[gigo567]

Can anyone post how to do a RP saddle (pics of it being strung) *cough*AM17*cough*

[cwb_lax]

look at the rp question thread. it says how in there. just copy and paste it in.

edit: ok i tried to copy it as did crazy drew but the pics didnt work

[crazydrew86]

http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=42800

[gigo567]

I will try to copy it.

[gigo567]

There you go
Thank you.

[crazydrew86]

nvm...................

[crazydrew86]

i will be adding a bottom string section and finish the sidewall section when i get back later today

[elementsk8r070]

Does anyone know how to do the topstring like Harry Alford?

The top looks like this (Can't find a clear picture/closeup of Alford's stick)
http://www.lax.com/bimages/1595/84

This one is hard to see. http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/md/galleries/mlacros3505/alfordh3505c-lg.jpg

[cwb_lax]

that looks just like the zig-zag featured above by crazydrew. look at that.

[syracuselax3]

^^CrazyDrew posted it up there. Its the 'Zig Zag' One. CrazyDrew you have like 5786535 peices of mesh lying around in those topstring pictures.

[B1ackout]

Does anyone know how to do the topstring like Harry Alford?

The top looks like this (Can't find a clear picture/closeup of Alford's stick)
http://www.lax.com/bimages/1595/84

This one is hard to see. http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/md/galleries/mlacros3505/alfordh3505c-lg.jpg
that looks like the zigzag which is shown above by crazyd

edit* i cant believe i ot beat by 2 people on that one

[lax_kid_22]

thanks for making this thread it will cut down a lot on all the mesh questions if it "stays alive"

[marflax33]

How to string a GIANT mesh pocket- The one and only orange
http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=22944&highlight=orange+giant+mesh+pocket

High Pockets- By mustang_lax
http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=22973&highlight=orange+giant+mesh+pocket

Huge Guide to mesh/stringing- GCHSlax04
http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=14679&highlight=mesh+tutorial

Some 5d mesh stringing- Orange
http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=34307&highlight=mesh+tutorial

Double sidewalls- Elementsk8ter070
http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=10982&highlight=double+sidewall+tutorial

Oranges double sidewall
http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=21759&highlight=double+sidewall+tutorial

[Talent223]

I guess this would go here.

How do you attach the coil at the top when stringing a RP?

[gigo567]

I guess this would go here.

How do you attach the coil at the top when stringing a RP?
Added it to the RP mini tutorial.

[livin4lax09]

no you guys. You don't get it. No tutorials for RPs

[cwb_lax]

can someone put how to do interlocking sidewalls in here?

[Jmalins23]

can someone put how to do a saddle (like the rp one) but its used on other pockets too so i dont think its a prob

[lacrosse34]

good thread. i was just about to restring my stick before i saw this. i might try a differnet styule of top string. but i have a question.. when i string a stick with hard mesh do i want the rougher side where the ball will sit or the soft side?

[wiggidawack]

alright, not to flame, but respect the busNASS

[crazydrew86]

gigo dint teach the rocket pocket he just showed previously posted material. its not like he made it up himself

[marflax33]

can someone put how to do interlocking sidewalls in here?
http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=12291&highlight=tutorial%3A+interlocking

Theres a pic of kryptics interlocking sidewalls in there. You should be able to eyeball it.

[marflax33]

good thread. i was just about to restring my stick before i saw this. i might try a differnet styule of top string. but i have a question.. when i string a stick with hard mesh do i want the rougher side where the ball will sit or the soft side?

Depends on your playing style. Rough side would be more hold and a bumpier release. The smooth side would be a smoother and better shot, and less hold. Theres not that much of a difference between them, but some people are picky about it.

[lacrosse34]

what would be easier to break it for hard mesh.. having the rough side or the soft side?

[marflax33]

what would be easier to break it for hard mesh.. having the rough side or the soft side?
They would break in the exact same.

[lacrosse34]

thanks bud

[gigo567]

no you guys. You don't get it. No tutorials for RPs
Your a meanie! Waaaaaaaaaaaaw!!!! :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

[VLax9Finisher]

Yeah so just wondering... whats better, a flat out good pocket or a good pocket helped by a double sidewall.

Basically, are there any downsides to a double sidewall?

[marflax33]

Yeah so just wondering... whats better, a flat out good pocket or a good pocket helped by a double sidewall.

Basically, are there any downsides to a double sidewall?
Double sidewalls are a bit harder to keep legal. They get huge bag pockets though if you can keep them legal.

[gigo567]

Double sidewalls are a bit harder to keep legal. They get huge bag pockets though.
Agree. :thumbsup:

[VLax9Finisher]

So, you're saying that if you can string a giant mesh pocket, (or just make a good pocket by pounding), than its better than a double sidewall?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm just wondering because I'm stringing up a stick (X3, if that makes a difference) soon.

[marflax33]

So, you're saying that if you can string a giant mesh pocket, (or just make a good pocket by pounding), than its better than a double sidewall?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm just wondering because I'm stringing up a stick (X3, if that makes a difference) soon.

Well, that is personnal preference. You cant really pount a pocket to have a bag as big as double sidewalls, but you can make one as deep. If you like bags, either follow oranges giant mesh pocket tutorial, or use a double sidewall stringing. If you want just a medium pocket, without a huge bag, than just string a normal pocket.

[VLax9Finisher]

Thanks a lot Marflax.

[eamiddy16]

instead of starting a new thread, what are the ups and downs of stringing customs pockets with sidewall instead of crosslace and can it be done with out problems?

[gigo567]

instead of starting a new thread, what are the ups and downs of stringing customs pockets with sidewall instead of crosslace and can it be done with out problems?
Pros:
more hold
able to tweak
string like you like

cons:
tons of repairing
can be messed up in rain of not taken care of right
can get tons of whip

[gigo567]

From Ed (posted it on e-lacrosse)

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4519/ed13fy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[chrisbchicken13]

i have a question on the actuall mesh, im sorry if its not relating to the topic. is brine mid monster or jimalax mid monster better?? cuz i have brine right now and its only semi(not even realy semi) broken in and i love it, just wish it was more broken in. but latley ive been hearing some bad stuff about jimalaxs stuff, i dunno. any oppinions. comments?

[zanderaruba]

A look at the bottom string on my PP, from the back.

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8762/nissalexsii3qc.jpg
is it ok to do the bottom string like this. i didnt do it the way in the pics b/c i didnt know how just by looking at the pics b/c it looked like u used the sidewalls into the bottom string. could i just do it like any other head with 4 holes execpt put the string through each of the 2 holes twice?

[Arlingtonlax]

Does anyone know how to do the topstring like Harry Alford?

The top looks like this (Can't find a clear picture/closeup of Alford's stick)
http://www.lax.com/bimages/1595/84

This one is hard to see. http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/md/galleries/mlacros3505/alfordh3505c-lg.jpg



THATS HARRY ALFORD OMG!!!
HE WENT TO MY SCHOOL!!!!
OMG!!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

[laxn]

can someone put how to do interlocking sidewalls in here?
http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=43404 this is a lot clearer, its with 7d but its the same with 10d

[laxn]

Does anyone know how to do the topstring like Harry Alford?

The top looks like this (Can't find a clear picture/closeup of Alford's stick)
http://www.lax.com/bimages/1595/84

This one is hard to see. http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/md/galleries/mlacros3505/alfordh3505c-lg.jpg
SCROLL UP IN THIS SAME THREAD!

[crazydrew86]

i have a question on the actuall mesh, im sorry if its not relating to the topic. is brine mid monster or jimalax mid monster better?? cuz i have brine right now and its only semi(not even realy semi) broken in and i love it, just wish it was more broken in. but latley ive been hearing some bad stuff about jimalaxs stuff, i dunno. any oppinions. comments?
go jima if they send you a bad piece just shoot them an email and they will have you another piece quickly

[BigKLaxer]

http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=43404 this is a lot clearer, its with 7d but its the same with 10d
Are you sure that is interlocking, it looks to me like the lockdown sidewalls that crazydrew did. Kryptics example looks alot different.

[wiLongpoleguy]

How do you do the triangular top string on the love pocket?
I know its probably been shown before sorry
Is the Zig-Zag the same as the triangular?

[laxin21]

i only have these 2 pics if anyone wants anymore ill put up
heres a way to do the topstring if you like a nice, smooth release, it pulls the mesh above the bottom of the lip

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/8892/answer319vv.th.jpg (http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=answer319vv.jpg)

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2084/answe329hm.th.jpg (http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=answe329hm.jpg)

its kinda like doing the topstring backwards

[chslax24]

my brother got a brand new av8 and I had some trouble doing the topstring on it. Everything else went flawlessly but i just couldnt get the darn topstring down right,
My problem was that i could pull the string tight at first but after i finished through the stringing hole i couldnt get the string to stay as tight as i had it. It's not terrible but just enough to bother you when you look at it. i'll get pics ths weekend for you if need be. any tips or tricks to keep the topstring tight on stx's? help much appreciated

[marflax33]

my brother got a brand new av8 and I had some trouble doing the topstring on it. Everything else went flawlessly but i just couldnt get the darn topstring down right,
My problem was that i could pull the string tight at first but after i finished through the stringing hole i couldnt get the string to stay as tight as i had it. It's not terrible but just enough to bother you when you look at it. i'll get pics ths weekend for you if need be. any tips or tricks to keep the topstring tight on stx's? help much appreciated

There isnt anything wrong with the head. On STX heads, The topstring holes are lower than the rest of the scoop, So there is going to be a slight gap between the lip and the mesh no matter what. Its unavoidable. Is the performance effected by it?

[chslax24]

There isnt anything wrong with the head. On STX heads, The topstring holes are lower than the rest of the scoop, So there is going to be a slight gap between the lip and the mesh no matter what. Its unavoidable. Is the performance effected by it?
no it throws great. no whip... prefect. i'll post pics later this week. thanks for the input. i meant that theres a gap between the stringing holes and the mesh. or was that what you were saying?