Gas prices are shooting up

[franks2089]

I just filled up my car today and it cost me $53.14, this is just getting ridiculous. Somehow we need to get the gas companies to stop screwing us over.


Thoughts?

[ekajsk8er]

Ethanol is the answer. Cleaner emissions, renewable, and is obtained from corn. What's not to love?

[kryptic]

Bike....Run....Carpool....Buy a hybird....Invent a hovercraft not dependant on gas....etc

[ColtsLax]

its not the gas companies. they have little control over the price at the pump. its based on the price per barrel, which is set by the traders at the COMEX, AMEX, and NYMEX. They buy and sell oil(think stocks) and depending on how the day goes depends on the price of gas. Right now they think iran is going to stop sending oil, which would drive up prices, so they are buying, which drives up prices.

Dont worry, the market will fix itself. Same thing happened with coal in the 1800's.

[franks2089]

I would get a hybrid car, but unfortunately I'm still in highschool and my family isnt wealthy so we just dont go out buy new cars whenever we want. If only there were no more problems over there and our president would make it a priority to come up with alternative fuels.

[HdGLaxWarrior]

Or vegtable oil.

[franks2089]

Whatever but $2.73 is a pain it seems like all my money is going towards gas right now.

[Orange]

Yeah it sucks and very bad timing for me since I just got my license and drive everywhere simply because I can now.

[slinkyspine]

Everyone. Ethanol is useless. So it's cheaper. It is also a pollutant.


Hydrogen combustion is the answer. Infact BMW has made a sucessful M3 with H combustion. Best part, the emmisions is water. No pollution. The only problem is the electricty neded to get H from HOH.

[Coach_Goldberg]

its not the gas companies. they have little control over the price at the pump. its based on the price per barrel, which is set by the traders at the COMEX, AMEX, and NYMEX. They buy and sell oil(think stocks) and depending on how the day goes depends on the price of gas. Right now they think iran is going to stop sending oil, which would drive up prices, so they are buying, which drives up prices.

Dont worry, the market will fix itself. Same thing happened with coal in the 1800's.

If gas companies have little control over the price at the pump, how come they keep raking in record profits?

[ColtsLax]

If gas companies have little control over the price at the pump, how come they keep raking in record profits?
because oil cost 72 dollars a barrel.

[BTlaxripper]

I would get a hybrid car, but unfortunately I'm still in highschool and my family isnt wealthy so we just dont go out buy new cars whenever we want. If only there were no more problems over there and our president would make it a priority to come up with alternative fuels.

It's not the president's fault. Companies come up with engine technology, not the government.

Oil companies buy patents to technology that would limit fuel consumption. I once spoke with a scientist who he and a team engineered an engine completely made of teflon, so it wouldn't need oil for lubrication. He told me an oil company bought the patent for it and never released it.

That and simple supply and demand.

[laxiceman]

Ethanol is the answer. Cleaner emissions, renewable, and is obtained from corn. What's not to love?

Yes, but then to get the amount of ethonal needed, requires a lot of energy tractors, oil to produce pesticides, etc.) So actuallly, the idea behind ethanol is good, but the issue goes deeper than that.

[laxattack1616]

My dad heard about someone who bought a car and filled up the tank. He drove for about a week and the guage still said full. He thought the sensor was broken so he took it to the dealers mechhanic. The dealers told him that the tank was still full and that his car had an experimental carburator in it that wasnt supposed to be released yet. They bought the car from him and gave him a new one.

If this is true it means the government is screwing us over and wants us to spend tons of money on gas instead of selling fuel efficint cars. It sounds kinda fake, but I dont know.

[ekajsk8er]

My dad heard about someone who bought a car and filled up the tank. He drove for about a week and the guage still said full. He thought the sensor was broken so he took it to the dealers mechhanic. The dealers told him that the tank was still full and that his car had an experimental carburator in it that wasnt supposed to be released yet. They bought the car from him and gave him a new one.

If this is true it means the government is screwing us over and wants us to spend tons of money on gas instead of selling fuel efficint cars. It sounds kinda fake, but I dont know.
It's a myth. I heard the same thing except it was an experimental engine, and that it was all a lie.

[enjoi]

its not the gas companies. they have little control over the price at the pump. its based on the price per barrel, which is set by the traders at the COMEX, AMEX, and NYMEX. They buy and sell oil(think stocks) and depending on how the day goes depends on the price of gas. Right now they think iran is going to stop sending oil, which would drive up prices, so they are buying, which drives up prices.

Dont worry, the market will fix itself. Same thing happened with coal in the 1800's.
Yes because at the best estimates, we have 40 years of oil prices. No there won't be oil crises like there was in '73, '78, the beginning of the '80s NO SIR.
The oil crisis won't be about supply of oil, it will be how much demand outstrips supply.

[SDPirate]

what are the gas prices for you guys?
3.05 for regular down the hill from my house.

[Texlax33]

2.80 here in Texas and thats high for us, it sucks big time man

[laxd42]

Ethanol is the answer. Cleaner emissions, renewable, and is obtained from corn. What's not to love?
whats not to love the price it cost more

[goalieskcickay]

because oil cost 72 dollars a barrel.

Wait, what? That didn't answer his question. At first you said,
"its not the gas companies. they have little control over the price at the pump. its based on the price per barrel, which is set by the traders at the COMEX, AMEX, and NYMEX. They buy and sell oil(think stocks) and depending on how the day goes depends on the price of gas. Right now they think iran is going to stop sending oil, which would drive up prices, so they are buying, which drives up prices."

If what you said first is true, then what you said second must be wrong.

Anyways, I agree with slinkyspine. Hydrogen is the way of the future, the way of the future, the way of the future, the way of the future...

(sorry, I just watched "Aviator")

[LaxBoy92]

because oil cost 72 dollars a barrel.
There was a study several years back that said for gas to be $3.00 a gallon, the barrel price would have to be $90. They're gouging us!

[ctl4lax]

2.99 in CT, but it has got as high as 3.14

[MainLax28]

what we need to do is buy as much oil bulk as we can in the next few months, and then stop buying from the middle east for as long as we can. Eventually they will not be able to sell, and have to lower their prices. Also buy gas from smaller companies and boycott exxon/mobil/lukoil, any of the big ones. Remember, consumers control the market, not the manufacturers. Of course Hydrogen and hybrids are the real best alternative, but how quickly can every pump be converted, and what about the old cars. It would take decades for a full conversion.

[TheKOB]

The problem with alternatives (ethanol and hydrogen) is that it'll still cost more than gas and it's wildly inefficient.

The reason the oil companies are making record profits (did you come up with that yourself or are you just listening to what the press tells you) is because they're selling more gas than ever. As with anything else, the more a business sells, the more profit you make.

[Hookem]

its not the gas companies. they have little control over the price at the pump. its based on the price per barrel, which is set by the traders at the COMEX, AMEX, and NYMEX. They buy and sell oil(think stocks) and depending on how the day goes depends on the price of gas. Right now they think iran is going to stop sending oil, which would drive up prices, so they are buying, which drives up prices.

Dont worry, the market will fix itself. Same thing happened with coal in the 1800's.
You dumb...

The barrels hold 55 gal of oil. 1 gal of gas costs $3 $3 x 55 = $165 so they are making $95 per barrel, well, actually more then that because I dont know how much Oil goes into a gallon of gas.

[ASJT3]

Gas is now $3.20 in my area, costs $65 to fill up my tank :(

[franks2089]

If bush takes over a country why doesnt he just take the oil fields and have U.S. get the same price people in Iraq get $.05/gallon.

[bartsimsonii]

If bush takes over a country why doesnt he just take the oil fields and have U.S. get the same price people in Iraq get $.05/gallon.

It's actually .05/Liter. I have been there. You do realize it costs money to send gas from the middle east to the U.S., right?

[shoebag2000]

Good god, 5 cents a liter?!?! We spend more than that on water here! It is getting ridiculous here, oil companies have to be gouging. From what I was told, last time prices did this (Katrina), even though it appeared that prices were raised to compensate for all the downed oil rigs and refineries, oil companies were posting record profits. If the prices are climbing like this again, then they must again be just bumping thier profits, even with the high price of oil.

[Hookem]

It's actually .05/Liter. I have been there. You do realize it costs money to send gas from the middle east to the U.S., right?
Yes it does cost a lot of money, but it doesnt cost as much as $61 per barrel.

[Frndlefire]

Venezuela pays 14 cents/gal for gasoline

[slinkyspine]

God. Its over a dollar a litre here. Not cool. I'm in Alberta, where the Oil Sands are. And it's still going up. Boo.

[twin58]

It's time to revive this thread:

new to motorcycles (http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=28150)

[Hookem]

It's time to revive this thread:

new to motorcycles (http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=28150)
not everyone wants to get killed

[navylaxfan15]

Their will be a point where the American public will become so fed up with oil prices, that either something very big happens, or their will be a serious cut-back on oil useage. We will only put up with so much from OPEC damn oil cartels.

[Frndlefire]

not everyone wants to get killed
meh, I believe in reincarnation...worse things could happen

[AttackMan17]

Everyone. Ethanol is useless. So it's cheaper. It is also a pollutant.


Hydrogen combustion is the answer. Infact BMW has made a sucessful M3 with H combustion. Best part, the emmisions is water. No pollution. The only problem is the electricty neded to get H from HOH.

Blast! I was going to invent that! I learned about it in science, and have bene trying to figure out how to do it. PS, im not as dumb as i look.

[franks2089]

We will only put up with so much from OPEC damn oil cartels.
I don't see why we just don't kill them and take their oil fields. Several big groups of shady people that some have been reported to support terrorism. I would lose any sleep if they were suddenly taken out for the good of the world while working on alternative fuels.

[Dan]

My gas is currently 2.58. I drove south past the gas station today. It was 2.49. I came back 3 hours later. It was freaking 2.58. It sucks so bad. See, I want to get a moped that gets 100 miles to the gallon. Hydrogen sounds great to me. Why would it be so expensive? Something I have to research. I know GM is doing stuff with it and has made a car that runs on it. But I'm also thinking of buying a diesel car when I actually buy my own and changing it to run on vegetable oil. Yeah yeah! Free gas, low emissions and more power!

[unta8]

Cant wait till I get a 95' m3 at the end of the year. 91 octane + e36 = expensive gas budget.

[NY Lax 4]

I ride my sweet ace bike until I can drive. At that point I wont have my own car though, neither do I want one with gas and insurance costs, my brother who is a year older then me has a 2005 Hyundai Elantra, blacked out with a sick stereo system.

[Hooligan]

I have a 2000 Hyundai Elantra, and I can still fill that up from a bone dry tank for under $30. Not bad, considering today's prices. It'll go over 300 miles on a tank of gas, under normal driving conditions.

Word of advice: YOU DO NOT NEED A CADILLAC ESCALLADE! Buy one of those, and I have no sympathy for you and your huge gas charges.

[LowRida]

Ethanol is the answer. Cleaner emissions, renewable, and is obtained from corn. What's not to love?

I suppose it is quite lovable for the conservationists who do not want people driving cars in the first place. Ethanol is what is causing this price spike. Article Here (http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8H4L4F0D.htm?campaign_id=apn_home_down&chan=db)

[slinkyspine]

Another word of advice. Hyundai's are cheap, brutal cars. And if you buy them when you could have gotten a Honda you should be forced to pay the gas prices. No offense to Hyundai owners but... they really are teribly made. Cheap parts, the workers are often very uneducated on what they are doing. You shouldn't worry about gas rather when your car is going to break down in the middle of nowhere. Honda's are little more expensive. You get twice the car. And great mileage.

[navylaxfan15]

I don't see why we just don't kill them and take their oil fields. Several big groups of shady people that some have been reported to support terrorism. I would lose any sleep if they were suddenly taken out for the good of the world while working on alternative fuels.

I completely agree with you on this. Unfortunatley, things don't work exactly like that, but we can hit them where it hurts most, their pockets. If somehowe, for a week, the nation could use as little fuel as possible, they would be on their knees begging.

[destructivelax]

Another word of advice. Hyundai's are cheap, brutal cars. And if you buy them when you could have gotten a Honda you should be forced to pay the gas prices. No offense to Hyundai owners but... they really are teribly made. Cheap parts, the workers are often very uneducated on what they are doing. You shouldn't worry about gas rather when your car is going to break down in the middle of nowhere. Honda's are little more expensive. You get twice the car. And great mileage.
havent they're ratings gone up tremendously? like honda/toyota standards?

[CavsDefense]

My team had a double practice this week (Spring Break) and when I left practice in the morning, gas was $2.83 a gallon, when I came back for the second practice it was $2.90. No kidding.

[TheKOB]

My gas is currently 2.58. I drove south past the gas station today. It was 2.49. I came back 3 hours later. It was freaking 2.58. It sucks so bad. See, I want to get a moped that gets 100 miles to the gallon. Hydrogen sounds great to me. Why would it be so expensive? Something I have to research. I know GM is doing stuff with it and has made a car that runs on it. But I'm also thinking of buying a diesel car when I actually buy my own and changing it to run on vegetable oil. Yeah yeah! Free gas, low emissions and more power!

You also have to go around and collect the oil from all the restaurants, transport it back to your place, and then spent on average 5 hours a weekend filtering it so you can actually use it....

Sounds like fun....

[iplaylax22]

ya its insane they should make a car that runs on water hahahahaha

[twin58]

but we can hit them where it hurts most, their pockets.... they would be on their knees begging.

and please turn on pump four (http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/luckovich/media/mike0419.gif)

[BTlaxripper]

$3.00 exactly.

If you think this is bad, try being in Florida when Hurrican Katrina blew through. It was around $3.50 -- and I saw pictures of it being at like $5.66.

Back to the matter at hand:
Two reasons for the sudden spike:
-Iran's nuclear AMBITIONS (they have nuclear capabilities, not a weapon)
-An additive in gasoline became illegal to its pollutant effects (can't remember the name) and it has to be out of US gasoline by May 1st. Until the additive is removed prices will escalate until the transition is made, and then (as CNN and FOX said) prices should return to normal.

[unta8]

I have a 2000 Hyundai Elantra, and I can still fill that up from a bone dry tank for under $30. Not bad, considering today's prices. It'll go over 300 miles on a tank of gas, under normal driving conditions.

Word of advice: YOU DO NOT NEED A CADILLAC ESCALLADE! Buy one of those, and I have no sympathy for you and your huge gas charges.
thats because it has a 9 gallon tank.

[ghs/wylax]

i think where i live gas is one of the most expensive in the nation. Highest I've seen is 3.53 (regular) and lowest 3.09. Generally about 3.20-3.30

[laxb0rder]

its not gonna get better for a while ether its just gonna keep goign up

[MDlaxin69]

just drove past an exxon on my way back home and noticed the gas was at $3.09! it was like 2.50 a week ago!

[livin4lax09]

Ethanol is the answer. Cleaner emissions, renewable, and is obtained from corn. What's not to love?

ahh, the flaw in this argument. While ethanol is a good alternative fuel, and does have all of the characteristics that you described, along with other things such as a low flash point which makes it very safe because it doesn't combust nearly as easily, there are many problems with it at the moment. One of the biggest issues is the amount of space that it will take up in order to produce the demand that there will be for the biodiesel. Another thing that we have to consider is the amount of gasoline that will be used in the production of this ethanol. THe machines that are harvesting the corn and the ones that are used for production/transportation will require fuel, and at first will most likely run off of gasoline. So in the end, the money saved from using biodiesel will not be that much more than the money spent on harvesting/production. Basically, the fuel requires more energy than we get back. EROEI<1.

But all diesel engines can run off of biodiesel anyways, right now. So if you don't want to buy diesel, just make your own! They can run off vegetable oil too.

[cool beans]

they have to raise the price so they make profit, because as gas is running out, the price goes up because it is more valuble

[franks2089]

they have to raise the price so they make profit, because as gas is running out, the price goes up because it is more valuble
I believe there is about another 100 yrs worth of oil in the ground.

[Monzo]

You think American gas prices are bad? I'm not saying they're good by any means, but my friend said that when he went to Israel, gas prices were something like 6-12 dollars a liter. I forget the number but I know it was somewhere in there.

It's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

[livin4lax09]

I believe there is about another 100 yrs worth of oil in the ground.

roughly around 50. More accurate estimates say 48, with the reserves that we know of now. But by the time that year rolls around, sources say we will have discovered more oil reserves, enough to last us about 12 more years.

[ekajsk8er]

ed, prices where I am aren't terrible. They're around 2.30 a gallon. Thank God I don't have to pay for it.

[NY Lax 4]

You think American gas prices are bad? I'm not saying they're good by any means, but my friend said that when he went to Israel, gas prices were something like 6-12 dollars a liter. I forget the number but I know it was somewhere in there.

It's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
Maybe you should realize that 12 dollars a liter is about 48 dollars a gallon.

[Hookem]

Its probably around $42

Also, the only way Ethanol will work is if we build something like lots of skyscrapers and every floor has growing area, so its being grown inside, like 100 story buldings that can have corn on almost every one, you could have a machine that harvests the corn and can travel up floors (there would be no ceiling were it travels up)

that would be the only efficent way to do that lol, and it AINT happenin

[livin4lax09]

or if we just set aside a LOT of farmland. Which also won't happen.

[Hookem]

or if we just set aside a LOT of farmland. Which also won't happen.
well youre not just contridiction ur own post above...

[livin4lax09]

you don't make sense.

[Hookem]

you don't make sense.
neither do you.

[livin4lax09]

One of the biggest issues is the amount of space that it will take up in order to produce the demand that there will be for the biodiesel.

or if we just set aside a LOT of farmland. Which also won't happen.

first off, I agreed with my original statement. Second, I agreed with you. Now why don't I make sense?

[unta8]

Hookem, Brent said that Ethanol IS a good idea, but is impractical because of it's high mantienence requirements such as a large feild for growing. When he said if we set aside large farmland which WONT happen he was further explaining how ethanol isn't practical. You'd better check your reading glasses.

[Hookem]

ahh, the flaw in this argument. While ethanol is a good alternative fuel, and does have all of the characteristics that you described, along with other things such as a low flash point which makes it very safe because it doesn't combust nearly as easily, there are many problems with it at the moment. One of the biggest issues is the amount of space that it will take up in order to produce the demand that there will be for the biodiesel. Another thing that we have to consider is the amount of gasoline that will be used in the production of this ethanol. THe machines that are harvesting the corn and the ones that are used for production/transportation will require fuel, and at first will most likely run off of gasoline. So in the end, the money saved from using biodiesel will not be that much more than the money spent on harvesting/production. Basically, the fuel requires more energy than we get back. EROEI<1.



or if we just set aside a LOT of farmland.


I was just saying this:

He was saying that its really inefficent; which it is.

Then he said:
or if we just set aside a LOT of farmland.

Anyways, im not gonna argue or anything, its pointless.

[Frndlefire]

ahh, the flaw in this argument. While ethanol is a good alternative fuel, and does have all of the characteristics that you described, along with other things such as a low flash point which makes it very safe because it doesn't combust nearly as easily, there are many problems with it at the moment. One of the biggest issues is the amount of space that it will take up in order to produce the demand that there will be for the biodiesel. Another thing that we have to consider is the amount of gasoline that will be used in the production of this ethanol. THe machines that are harvesting the corn and the ones that are used for production/transportation will require fuel, and at first will most likely run off of gasoline. So in the end, the money saved from using biodiesel will not be that much more than the money spent on harvesting/production. Basically, the fuel requires more energy than we get back. .All I've got to say is that buying ethanol mixed gas in Iowa saves me over twenty cents a gallon than crossing the boarding and buying gas in wisconsin.

[PMRaiderLax6]

Whatever but $2.73 is a pain it seems like all my money is going towards gas right now.
Pshh, you got it good. It's around $3.25 here.

[franks2089]

Pshh, you got it good. It's around $3.25 here.
Yea but considering we are so close to Houston which has a bunch of refineries we should have better prices then you all the time

[GCdorman40]

$40 exactly for 13.161 gallons

it's pretty much anywhere from $3.00 - $3.20

^rochester, NY btw

[raykessler]

In Washington DC its almost $4 (last time i looked) for premium gas.... stupid saab needs 91 octane.

[enjoi]

roughly around 50. More accurate estimates say 48, with the reserves that we know of now. But by the time that year rolls around, sources say we will have discovered more oil reserves, enough to last us about 12 more years.
I've heard that by the time we run out of oil, prices will be up so high that it won't really matter how much oil we have anyways.

[laxd42]

I have a 2000 Hyundai Elantra, and I can still fill that up from a bone dry tank for under $30. Not bad, considering today's prices. It'll go over 300 miles on a tank of gas, under normal driving conditions.

Word of advice: YOU DO NOT NEED A CADILLAC ESCALLADE! Buy one of those, and I have no sympathy for you and your huge gas charges.

ur just to poor to afford an esclade

[livin4lax09]

I've heard that by the time we run out of oil, prices will be up so high that it won't really matter how much oil we have anyways.

and the funny thing is...we'll just keep buying it. Complaining all the while, but still buying.

[LaxCrazy17]

Madison Ohio- Gas is 3.59 a gallon, I've never seen gas that high before and I guess that it has the potential to go even higher. I think Ethanol is our best bet. I also don't want them to start drilling in Alaska either.

[WHEELAX2]

to quote 311... "the technology has been suppressed"

we have the technology.. but a lot of people would lose a lot of money if we were to convert to alternative forms of energy..

[roycegracie47]

Hrm. My internet so far has stymied 2 attempts at posting. Anywho

BTLaxripper, one new problem we are facing out of Iran is not their nuclear ambitions (it is important, and is in someways a factor), but that they are OPEC's #2 oil producer. And of course in their fun anti-West spirit they, along with Venezuala have decided that price breaks and a fund should be established for developing nations, whereas 1st world & rich nations should spend no less than $100 a barrel. The rest of OPEC doesn't agree as they fear the impact on the world economy.

Also I believe the additive your thining of is MTBE (If'n I'm wrong please correct me) which several states have removed awhile ago leading to the higher prices around the nation. NY, DC/NoVA/MoCo, Hawai'i (but they pay more for anything that isn't a pineapple or macadamia nuts), CA which is why we've been overachievers in providing Big Oil with their rich pensions. That and oil futures at $72 a barrel have been wrapped up through 2009.

As for me, I am one of the lucky few that is completely dependant on driving to earn a living. I live in one county away from my current job and as such have no access to public trans or carpooling options (everyone else lives on the Bmore side of things). I have begun to go in the red with each paycheck per rising gas (that and the gov't decision to raise my "locked in fixed rate" on my student loans) and as such I must sttart looking for a closer and better paying job (I was doing this already but now the sense of urgency is pressing) or start looking for a part-time job until I can find said new job to make ends meet.

[WHEELAX2]

Hrm. My internet so far has stymied 2 attempts at posting. Anywho

BTLaxripper, one new problem we are facing out of Iran is not their nuclear ambitions (it is important, and is in someways a factor), but that they are OPEC's #2 oil producer. And of course in their fun anti-West spirit they, along with Venezuala have decided that price breaks and a fund should be established for developing nations, whereas 1st world & rich nations should spend no less than $100 a barrel. The rest of OPEC doesn't agree as they fear the impact on the world economy.

Also I believe the additive your thining of is MTBE (If'n I'm wrong please correct me) which several states have removed awhile ago leading to the higher prices around the nation. NY, DC/NoVA/MoCo, Hawai'i (but they pay more for anything that isn't a pineapple or macadamia nuts), CA which is why we've been overachievers in providing Big Oil with their rich pensions. That and oil futures at $72 a barrel have been wrapped up through 2009.

As for me, I am one of the lucky few that is completely dependant on driving to earn a living. I live in one county away from my current job and as such have no access to public trans or carpooling options (everyone else lives on the Bmore side of things). I have begun to go in the red with each paycheck per rising gas (that and the gov't decision to raise my "locked in fixed rate" on my student loans) and as such I must sttart looking for a closer and better paying job (I was doing this already but now the sense of urgency is pressing) or start looking for a part-time job until I can find said new job to make ends meet.


I'm right with ya..

even my motorcycle is cutting into the paycheck.. (even though it costs a lot less to operate, it's still not as cheap as it used to be)..

[aussielax]

If anybody has 20 odd spare minuates and want to know about how Ethanol has had massive sucess in brazil go to - http://news.sbs.com.au/dateline/index.php?page=archive&region=4# and click on March 15 2006 Feature:Brazil's Sweet Revolution. And there is a really good report on how ethanol has become really popular in Brazil and is a viable energy alternative to petrol in other nations aswell.

[livin4lax09]

I also have multiple PP presentations from my chemical engineering: energy and environment class.

[ramslac05]

one thing
as china develops theyre gonna be constantly getting more vehicles like us so theyll be sucking gas in too so i wouldnt expect them to be going down anytime soon

[superlaxman2]

To put in a word about weaning the US off gasoline, a car company(I think it was ford, maybe buic) made a car in the late 70s that ran on any liquid put in the engine. Water, motor oil, someone even ran it on a bottle of bourbon. Hydrogen could be a soloution to the oil cricis too, but the hydrogen car nearest to mass production wont be available untill 2009.

EDIT: I saw the any-fuel car on the history channel.

[Frndlefire]

To put in a word about weaning the US off gasoline, a car company(I think it was ford, maybe buic) made a car in the late 70s that ran on any liquid put in the engine. Water, motor oil, someone even ran it on a bottle of bourbon. Hydrogen could be a soloution to the oil cricis too, but the hydrogen car nearest to mass production wont be available untill 2009.

EDIT: I saw the any-fuel car on the history channel.oh really...because if it were true and the history channel was talking about it...well....it would solve a whole lot of problems. I am going to need further proof if you can find some...

[blckout20]

Just today I went to the bike store to look into buying a bicycle for any trips that I make around town since most of my driving is in town. Unfortunately, I want to buy a road bike and I don't really have the money to buy one just yet. I guess I'll have to just suck it up and buy the bike, atleast I'll be getting good exercise and not using so much gas.

[livin4lax09]

any car that they implement that has alternative sources of fuel is not just going to jump into the economy. It's pretty accepted that any new technology they bring up will first be coupled with gasoline. We have so much infrastructure in place that if we brought in a whole new type of fuel overnight, it would cause so many problems. The fuel lines first need to be downsized, and eventually done away with, if we are going to take that route. But that will take time. So all new technologies will by hybridized (is that a word?) with gasoline first.

[Frndlefire]

any car that they implement that has alternative sources of fuel is not just going to jump into the economy. It's pretty accepted that any new technology they bring up will first be coupled with gasoline. We have so much infrastructure in place that if we brought in a whole new type of fuel overnight, it would cause so many problems. The fuel lines first need to be downsized, and eventually done away with, if we are going to take that route. But that will take time. So all new technologies will by hybridized (is that a word?) with gasoline first. that is, of course, until I get my flux capacitor prototype finished...

[pattonlax24]

i think solar power is the answer to all our answered answers b/c i have an answer as my lax head and it is the answer to al my answered answers b/c i am the high scoreer on my team which answers my [B]question