Winds of Change (club to NCAA) [Archive]

Lax_Hitman

04-23-2006, 01:43 PM

Does anyone have any inside info on possible club teams coming into the NCAA divisions? My sister looked at James Madison and there club is looking to join in the next 2-4 years. Anyone else?

phoenix-32

04-23-2006, 02:13 PM

its a pretty difficult process thanks to Title IX. unfortunately, its really unlikely for school with substancial athletic programs to undertake lax, for all the reasons that come with adding a new program in general

capergreen

04-23-2006, 06:45 PM

a few texas schools are rumored to be going D3 Austin College, Southwestern, and Trinity. It's a lot easier for the smaller schools to go NCAA than the larger ones.

Formerlaxdemon

04-23-2006, 06:54 PM

Isn't Virginia Tech going to have a team for men's lacrosse now?

phoenix-32

04-23-2006, 07:36 PM

a few texas schools are rumored to be going D3 Austin College, Southwestern, and Trinity. It's a lot easier for the smaller schools to go NCAA than the larger ones.

yep. the small, private schools

BCdefense

04-24-2006, 01:35 PM

florida state is looking to go D1 pretty soon (within 5 or so years hopefully)

Last Don

04-25-2006, 09:39 AM

Morgan St. is working on it too.

I just played against them on Sunday.

TheKOB

04-25-2006, 02:30 PM

Isn't Virginia Tech going to have a team for men's lacrosse now?

They have a team in the USL MDIA, but I don't think they'll be going varsity anytime soon.

Florida State is the only big time school I've heard will go varsity, but I've heard murmurings that that might not even happen.

BTlaxripper

04-25-2006, 02:36 PM

They have a team in the USL MDIA, but I don't think they'll be going varsity anytime soon.

Florida State is the only big time school I've heard will go varsity, but I've heard murmurings that that might not even happen.

FSU and UF were rumored to be going DI around 2007-2009

TheKOB

04-25-2006, 02:42 PM

FSU and UF were rumored to be going DI around 2007-2009

I haven't heard anything about UF, and I doubt they will since they're in the SEC.

The number I heard about FSU is 2011 probably because their coach is a huge booster and donated the funds to build the new Harkins Field complex, which is used for the marching band, football, and lacrosse.

I haven't heard anything recently about them going varsity though...their school probably has funding/Title IX issues, kinda like everyone else

jedimasterPIMP

04-25-2006, 03:21 PM

I'm really not the biggest fan of Title IX but I also heard about FSU coming to DI in the near future.

veronaD#02

04-25-2006, 04:33 PM

I'd say that it's still 5+ years away for FSU to go Div 1.

Other than FSU, I'd be really surprised if any mdia team goes D1 by 2012. It takes alot of money and resources to make the jump to ncaa play.

WarriorLax14

04-25-2006, 04:57 PM

i've heard alot about Florida state going for a d1 lacrosse team very soon. (i heard within the next 3-5 years). I also heard the virginia tech is trying to pull something together as well. But with all what happened to Duke we could use some new schools.

TViola21

04-25-2006, 07:05 PM

i would love it if Colorado State went NCAA, i know it wont happen, but their all black jerseys are SO sweet haha

richlax5

04-27-2006, 04:31 PM

I think it's more about money these days. Many schools have teams that play club, and some DI, II, III schools have clubs on top of college teams. The University/College has to be committed to building a program that may suffer many lopsided losses at first. Look at Bellermine, St. John's, and Robert Morris all second year Division I not to mention the new Division III schools. Title IX is an issue, but money in general is a huge issue for many of these schools.

roxlax

04-27-2006, 04:46 PM

West Virginia University is going D1 in the 2008 Season, I am playing for them next year and whoever they are hiring as the Coach for 2008 is coming in next year to work with the club team and people the assistants have been recruiting come and play there.

roxlax

04-29-2006, 12:54 PM

i would love it if Colorado State went NCAA, i know it wont happen, but their all black jerseys are SO sweet haha

you got the wrong school, Colorado State is the rams who are Green and Gold. Colorado University is the Buffaloes who is Black and Gold.

TheKOB

04-29-2006, 01:07 PM

NYlaxLI

04-29-2006, 01:08 PM

no hes right CSU has white/green and black/green jerseys this year, granted there normal colors are green and gold but the black uni's with their new black helmets are so nice. Trying to convince my coach to get similar ones for us.

roxlax

04-29-2006, 04:05 PM

Was there an announcement about this? I haven't heard anything about it...

one of the current players on their club team told me about it, I contacted the WVU Athletic Director to make sure about this, he confirmed it to me and I signed up for next years club team so come the 2008 season when there is a D1 team i have a chance and making the team since whoever they hire as a coach will be coaching the club team next year.

pauls1988

04-29-2006, 04:15 PM

Sewanee-University of the South is going D1 in the 2007-2008 season, I'm gonna try to play for them.

BTlaxripper

04-29-2006, 06:27 PM

How hard is it to go into DIII than? Just as hard as going into DI?

TheKOB

04-29-2006, 06:34 PM

How hard is it to go into DIII than? Just as hard as going into DI?

I'd say it's easier just because it's less funded (no schollys) and there isn't usually football taking up the bulk of the budget. Of course, without a huge football following there isn't as much funding for the actual running of the program (smaller amount of $ from a smaller pie). I'm also not sure how Title IX affects D3. If it's applied on the basis of available scholarships, then it shouldn't really affect it. Then again, sometimes it's based just on the number of sports, or the number of athletes, etc.

camthraxFHK

04-29-2006, 06:41 PM

Sewanee-University of the South is going D1 in the 2007-2008 season, I'm gonna try to play for them.
Sewanee is DIII. They can't go DI because two years or so ago they eliminated the option of playing up divisions. Hopkins, Hobart and all the hockey DIII schools that play up can pull it off, but Sewanee can't play DI.

laxpro

04-29-2006, 08:52 PM

Westminster College in Utah is supposed to become D3 next year.

TheKOB

04-29-2006, 11:00 PM

Sewanee is DIII. They can't go DI because two years or so ago they eliminated the option of playing up divisions. Hopkins, Hobart and all the hockey DIII schools that play up can pull it off, but Sewanee can't play DI.

Here's a story about Sewanee going varsity...
http://athletics.sewanee.edu/home?id=14523

BTlaxripper

04-29-2006, 11:04 PM

I'm going to try to make the lax team at my college D3. It's my project.

TheKOB

04-29-2006, 11:07 PM

one of the current players on their club team told me about it, I contacted the WVU Athletic Director to make sure about this, he confirmed it to me and I signed up for next years club team so come the 2008 season when there is a D1 team i have a chance and making the team since whoever they hire as a coach will be coaching the club team next year.

That's great, but when a school adds a varsity program they'll put something out about it.

Also, when I first started playing at USC we figured out that if the school were to ever take us varsity, all of us wouldn't have a shot in hell at making the team. We probably had a similar record to ya'll this year.

I'm not trying to tear you down, just saying I haven't heard anything about it. I sure hope I'm wrong though...any school adding a D1 team is a great thing.

TheKOB

04-29-2006, 11:08 PM

I'm going to try to make the lax team at my college D3. It's my project.

Which college?

BTlaxripper

04-29-2006, 11:21 PM

Which college?

Spring Hill College in Mobile Alabama. Have a club team.

St. Leo's in Tampa is D2 or D3 -- whichever one they are, or whichever is easier to make a team for, is what we should shoot for.

SHC is jesuit, and so is St. Leo's so it would be cool to have that support from a nearby school.

roxlax

04-30-2006, 08:45 PM

That's great, but when a school adds a varsity program they'll put something out about it.

Also, when I first started playing at USC we figured out that if the school were to ever take us varsity, all of us wouldn't have a shot in hell at making the team. We probably had a similar record to ya'll this year.

I'm not trying to tear you down, just saying I haven't heard anything about it. I sure hope I'm wrong though...any school adding a D1 team is a great thing.

hopefully they'll form a big east conference when they become D1 since they'll have enough teams. WVU, Rutgers, Syracuse, Villanova, Notre Dame and Georgetown would be enough teams to form one. seeing as how the ACC is for lacrosse only having 4 teams.

TheKOB

04-30-2006, 09:07 PM

Spring Hill College in Mobile Alabama. Have a club team.

St. Leo's in Tampa is D2 or D3 -- whichever one they are, or whichever is easier to make a team for, is what we should shoot for.

SHC is jesuit, and so is St. Leo's so it would be cool to have that support from a nearby school.

You could look into joining the USL MDIA and the SELC. Let me know if you're interested and I can get you an app. From the sound of it ya'll would be a division B team and play teams in Alabama (U of Alabama is a B team... I don't think they draw a lot from out of state so they don't really have the experience).

Anyways, either PM me or email me at kevin@selc.org and let me know. I'm the Division B Director for the SELC....

edit: just looked at your athetics website. Looks like your school is NAIA not NCAA. That'd probably make it hard to get into the NCAA for just lacrosse.

Reblax44

05-31-2006, 03:05 AM

hopefully they'll form a big east conference when they become D1 since they'll have enough teams. WVU, Rutgers, Syracuse, Villanova, Notre Dame and Georgetown would be enough teams to form one. seeing as how the ACC is for lacrosse only having 4 teams.
First off Syracuse is like Notre Dame in football they wont go from an independent sched but in reality you already have enough teams from the Big East to form a league and they don't You have Rutgers,Nova, G Town which you mentioned, St. Johns and Providence Which you didn't and of course Notre Dame who is an associate member in the BE and Cuse. So you in essence have the potential for a 7 team BE men lacrosse league and they don't do it. Anyone have a reason why if these schools are part of the Big East and they have their own league why they aren't their own league??

Chaminademid

05-31-2006, 09:14 AM