Noticed that all horrible players get great equipment?

[pattonlax24]

Has anyone noticed that all the players that suck have all this great equipment. its like eqipment going to waste. I personally have a cascade helmet flat rim with Warrior RPM's that i found and a brine answer with a warior fatboy i got from my cousin who got it from princeton. JUst to put that out there....Talk about it with us and tell a story!!!

[AttackMan17]

Kid on the schools team. CPX. Evo pro. RP. K-pro. Freaks. He runs as fast as a pumpkin. And his IQ is below that of a potato.

[pattonlax24]

yeah some kids just get started and already have freaking rocket pockets with a cpx i mean jesus crist its a waaste of equipment

[tiplax]

well look at it from their point of view. they are new so they go to a lax store to buy stuff. the guy working there persuadeds them to buy the better stuff for a little more money.
a newb on my team has the stuff i have now (after 3 years of playing with crap)

[Expressgoalie01]

Kid on the schools team. CPX. Evo pro. RP. K-pro. Freaks. He runs as fast as a pumpkin. And his IQ is below that of a potato.
I have about ten kids on my team like that

[nofear45465]

i would be one example. haha jk. i can actually play but i do have nice things.

[gigo567]

I have lots of nice stuff except...
I have played for 3 years
I pay for it
I am good

But there is one kid on one of the teams I went against that had a P2 on a criss-cross. And he sucked, barely could cradle and couldn't throw right.

[MainLax28]

Well, most kids on my team are too ignorant to buy anything better than what you can get at dick's. This is the first year (most have been playing for 3 or more) that half of them have sticks better than radiuses and blazes. I know my first year I used a hockey helmet for field.

[Foxfirebass]

I dunno, this is my first year and I have freaks.

Of course, I paid for them. Hopefully that's not as bad. Though I do know what you mean...I too dislike the terrible kids on the JV team (I go to a public school in Chicago, so not mine, but yeah) with custom Mac Daddys.

[BeIVdeR]

ummmm
levitations
criss cross
evo pros
basically all players club pads
titans and kypros
o and also mac customs

[canadians_eh]

yah a kid on my school team has 12 sticks ya 12 sticks, a Cpx(with custom colours, Warrior 6.0 shoulder pads and Warrior cleats and the kid catches 1 of 20 passes at him.

[Saints48]

Yea, i got hand me down goalie gear until a couple HS goalies died from shoots in the chest and my parents did get me a chest protector that had a harder material over the chest, which by the way I still wear to this day.

[destructivelax]

well i have some good stuff (defts/kpro) but i'm a good player

[HRLAXER]

yeah the year the players club came out... the kid had a finalizer on a titan pro, players club elbow pads, triad XP, super freaks, burns, pc shoulder pads

[nofear45465]

ummmm
levitations
criss cross
evo pros
basically all players club pads
titans and kypros
o and also mac customs

how come the only thing on there is warrior? it looks like someone is a little biased. but i will especially agree with you on the LEVITATION even tho i have one. biggest waste of money on my part ever. Warrior does really make nice equipment tho.

[laxman 9990]

on our jv team there is only about 1 or 2 kids who just get top of the line stuff(freaks,CPX,diamond w/ razer pro), but the rest of them know better

[MClothier]

everyone on my team is good and has good stuff...

[marflax33]

Im on of the few people on my team with advanced equipment. But im also one of the few that can play very well with it. Theres only one kid who thinks buying good equipment makes them a considerable amount better. At the moment he has a custom UNC cpro helmet for practices, some warrior superfreaks, a duece, and is ordering a stx ti/scandium premier just so he will have a better shaft than me. Hes a weird kid. Yet whenever he guards me, i still make him look like a girl, even with all his 900 dollar equipment, than he blames it on wet grass or something.

[stinisonfire]

It's the whole belief that if you have the best equipment, you will get better. It's mostly a mental thing, but whatever.

[a2lacrosse]

on my team we just have one player who thinks he is like the most amazing player ever. macdaddies, cpx, gforce AGs, etc. very very annoying. but my team for the most part has cheap stuff. most bought their pads at just some local store and ordered a head and shaft online

[WHEELAX2]

yeah it happens in a lot of sports.. take golf for instance...

[RockStar]

yeah it happens in a lot of sports.. take golf for instance...
Yup, golf's a big one. I've seen guys worse than me with $3K worth of stuff in their bag. Considering that I golf once or twice a year, won't break 100 on a championship course, and don't even really care about golf, being worse than me that's pretty pathetic! Lessons help more than equipment!

My personal fave experience with equipment junkies was playing low level men's ball hockey against guys using high priced composite sticks. Over a few seasons, I went through about three ~$9.99 el cheapo wooden sticks.

Beauty was that ~$30 worth of lumber was responsible for destroying several $hundred worth of composite. Imagine that - you're going in on goal, fake the goalie out of his pants and have half the net open.........and then you're completely negated by a third rate winger/defenseman.....who's wielding equipment that cost less than 10% of yours! How does that make you feel!?

*RockStar is looking forward to release of 1-piece composite men's lax sticks. Setting a goal of $1000 damage in the first season!

[CJLAX]

If good kit is wasted on rubbish players, then why arn't all you supposed good players buying it instead?!

And if you're saying you don't need it, then what are you winging about?!

Also why should people be ashamed of having good kit, just becuase they can afford it and want it?!?!

[lVlike]

I've learned to deal with this. Sure I'm envious of all that stuff and wish I could have it but, I'm used ot it, because my family has always been tight on money.

[Canada_Lax]

yeah some kids just get started and already have freaking rocket pockets with a cpx i mean jesus crist its a waaste of equipment


dont take the lords name in vane no matter how mad you are

[NuKoN]

my teams backup goalie has Mac Daddies and he is getting a Levi putting a BN Nemi on it.. no matter how much I tell him not to buy these things, he doesnt listen.. so I figure I'll let him be happy.

[goalieskcickay]

dont take the lords name in vane no matter how mad you are

Where's Vane? :chuckle:

This one person on my team had a Levi and an Evo Pro, then someone bent the Levi, so he got a titan classic. :nono:

[carolinafreak]

i have a nice stick, but that is only because i trade

started w/ f15> then f22(gave him five bucks)> and now a titan pro

got a finalizer for 60 bucks

[ghs/wylax]

Sometimes people like you guys annoy me. So what if they have nice equipment? Maybe there parents want them to be happy, is that problem? I have nice stuff but since my beginner gear I've bought/traded for all of it. Jesse HUbbard's little brother plays in my league. He's pretty good, but not amazing. Obviously he had top of the line warrior gear. My friend (whos on his team) said people gave him so much crap, that hes scaled back. He shouldn't have to do that! If your so concerned with what other people have look back and think,
1) Don't my parents buy me expensive things?
2) Who cares

How about you focus on you and not others. The only thing that I understand is for example, i told a kid your talking about how to do a ground ball better. He then tells me my defts suck because they say nesll on them ( i traded for them). He has mac daddies

[carolinafreak]

a kid i know has a levitation (defense) with an evo pro with a rocket pocket

about $450 with tax

[goalieskcickay]

Sometimes people like you guys annoy me. So what if they have nice equipment? Maybe there parents want them to be happy, is that problem? I have nice stuff but since my beginner gear I've bought/traded for all of it. Jesse HUbbard's little brother plays in my league. He's pretty good, but not amazing. Obviously he had top of the line warrior gear. My friend (whos on his team) said people gave him so much crap, that hes scaled back. He shouldn't have to do that! If your so concerned with what other people have look back and think,
1) Don't my parents buy me expensive things?
2) Who cares



It's not as much about people having nice equipment as it is about people tugging on their parents shirts and saying, "I want this, it's $200 so it must make me better!"

[Torque42]

i have a torque/evo pro on a kpro does that mean anything, and i have a cpx, i think i suck jk... i havent noticed it on my new team but on the b team ya!

[b-waterlax]

i hate when i see these kids blaming their equipment for their errors, its one thing if you have to fix the stringing once or twice, but if you have top of line stuff its not the equipment thats slowing you down. But i agree that they have every right to own whatever they want whether its expensive or if they found it, i mean hey, if it works then go for it

[EricFoGo27]

AHHHHH!!! That makes me sooooo mad. There was this kid on our team who hurt his eye before season started and couldn't play for half the season, so he already had an alright stick, but by the time he already started again he ended up buying a razor pro with some nice stx shaft on it. he hadn't even played in a game let alone a practice. darn rich newbies

[pattonlax24]

well look at it from their point of view. they are new so they go to a lax store to buy stuff. the guy working there persuadeds them to buy the better stuff for a little more money.
a newb on my team has the stuff i have now (after 3 years of playing with crap)
that is very true very very true

[pattonlax24]

same with me (rented)

[NuKoN]

It's not as much about people having nice equipment as it is about people tugging on their parents shirts and saying, "I want this, it's $200 so it must make me better!"


Bingo.

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[ColtsLax]

as a player advances in the game, he finds a comfort zone. When i first started, i had an stx octane, a red cascade, some red storm, those apollo SP with the big caps, and some brine trident AG. as i advanced, i got nicer stuff, but i hold on to it. I went from the storms to ignitors to deft/Glads.

I went from apollos to hitmen to spartan cores.
this progression is the same in all my equipment, kids are probally saving money by jumping to the top right away. Ive probally got 250 dollars in used equipment that it to small for me.

when i work in my store, i advise parents to go cheap, because their kids WILL grow out of those 100 PC shoulder pads. so buying the nicest stuff does have some advantages.

[James]

Sometimes people like you guys annoy me. So what if they have nice equipment? Maybe there parents want them to be happy, is that problem? I have nice stuff but since my beginner gear I've bought/traded for all of it. Jesse HUbbard's little brother plays in my league. He's pretty good, but not amazing. Obviously he had top of the line warrior gear. My friend (whos on his team) said people gave him so much crap, that hes scaled back. He shouldn't have to do that! If your so concerned with what other people have look back and think,
1) Don't my parents buy me expensive things?
2) Who cares

How about you focus on you and not others. The only thing that I understand is for example, i told a kid your talking about how to do a ground ball better. He then tells me my defts suck because they say nesll on them ( i traded for them). He has mac daddies
I totally agree as long as he buys it himself and doesnt say mommy I want that one and gets all the equipment he wants. I am not the greatest player and I have pretty nice stuff. Its up to me how i will spend my hard earned money. The only thing I dont like is when the people who already cant catch get evo pros that makes me mad but as long as they can use it let them waste there money

[Yslax1]

yeah i have a kid on my team that has a trident dyed with a rocket pocket and a liquidmetal shaft and he cant catch

[JsB90790]

its useuwelly beacuse the horrible players are new so they just bought there equipment and thats all they have at the local places of web sites, the newest equipment...

[orangeman17]

who cares what other people have?

[D Bay]

Bottom Line- If you're a talented player playing with bad gear, you may get more freedom of movement and better feel with nice gear, which can in turn elevate your game a bit. Don't we all seem to play better when we are more comfortable?

On the other hand, if you aren't a talented player and you're buying all the nicest gear, it may make you comfortable, but probably won't do much for you. Still, this is their choice to buy the stuff, not ours, so why care? I think as lacrosse players we should focus on ourself and our own game more than that of people sitting on the sideline and not helping the team anyway

[BigKLaxer]

I hate when bad people waste their money on equipment. Most of the football players in my school showed up the first day of lax tryouts with $200 dollar sticks that were pure white and looked like they had never been played with before. What really stinks is they made the team even though they were bad, instead of me and my friends who had worked really hard to train for tryouts.

[faceitoff]

This one kid on my team can't even cradle yet, and he has a CPX, I-Pros, PC 6.0 shoulder AND arm pads. And I think he has a Deuce on a Kryptolyte long pole.

[gobluemiddie]

Actually, I think you've hit on half of the phenomenon. :idea: The really good players and the not very good players seem to have the best gear (with a few exceptions.) I don't really mind OK players having fantastic sticks. I have a Brine blaze on an f10, which is so bad that you probably haven't even heard of it. But I play better than guys on my team who have Razer Pros on Swizzles or Cpros, so it gets me annoyed when people think they can tell how good you are by asking you what stick you have. :bull: Dude, the second-best guy on my team last year was playing with a Ripper!

[gigo567]

dont take the lords name in vane no matter how mad you are
Maybe yours but not mine (other religions you know) :agree:

[RIT37FO]

jealousy is a *****

play your game done worry about others

(says the kid who at this current time has 8 complete stick in his possesion but college helps)

[nofear45465]

I hate when bad people waste their money on equipment. Most of the football players in my school showed up the first day of lax tryouts with $200 dollar sticks that were pure white and looked like they had never been played with before. What really stinks is they made the team even though they were bad, instead of me and my friends who had worked really hard to train for tryouts.

how bad could they be if they made it and you didnt? like i dont wanna sound mean or anything, but was it just because of their athletisicm from football? obviously they were doing one thing, or more thann one thing that was important better than you. people dont make the team because their sticks look good.

[Falconsmikevick]

There is this one kid, new stick and gloves every year- this year a pulse w/ a rock-it pocket on a swizzle Ti w/ his name on it and superfreaks, w/ element shoulder pads and some kind of STX arm guards w/ our high schools custom helmet (but most of us have the helmet). He cannot catch, pass, run (he walks), dodge, cut, look up, or shoot.

[Despise Purity]

I like how most of the responses someone says they have good gear but then state how its alright because they are a good player...

I doubt many people actually believe that buying top equiptment will make them play like "whateverplayer". Also, parents are smarter than you think. I highly doubt they would just spend a crap load of money on equiptment just because their kid says they have to have it. The reason they do it is they dont have to worry as much about money so they are able to dish out that kind of cash.

What does one have to do to prove they are worthy of carrying around amazing equiptment? Give them a year or so to improve, once they can start playing better, then they should be allowed to use all the amazing pads, and sticks right? Help them out, they are on your team and instead of complaining how they have better equiptment than you, HELP THEM.

[Falconsmikevick]

We constantly try to teach the kid, hes been playing for 4 years

[Despise Purity]

We constantly try to teach the kid, hes been playing for 4 years


I see... well then, umm... I think you just told me... =(

[BigKLaxer]

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[Big-Red]

I use to be pretty bad at lacrosse. I had gloves too big, a 30 dollar stick with a pocket made by the devil, my arm pads still are a little big, and yeah, it sucked.

now adays I have freaks, still using a crappy team helmet, I have a nice stick, good pads, and yeah it helped my game. my old pocket was hard mesh but was strung by an idiot haha, oh well, my point is even though idiots have nice gear it does help, maybe some things are pushing it but having a nice stick and pads that fit are what counts :D

[rjattack19]

yup, a kid on my team (5th string) has custom macs, freaks, and glads (he uses diff. gloves every day, torque on a k-pro (long pole)...a UA stick bag a, cpx titanium, he gets a new stick ever 2 weeks, he has ventalator arm guards which r useless 4 D, and he wears these huge shoulder pads with the bicept things on em

[RIT37FO]

i think it all boils down to

look good play good :)

my parents have money and never deprived me of things when i asked (then again i was never a gimme kid) but everyone needs gloves who wants the crappy ones?
if you can get some sick *** custom mac dads or freaks why not? i had a pair of freaks for 2 years and i love them id still use them if my college team wasnt using stx glads. if the product works its worth every penny. same thing with the helmet parents dont want there kids gettin crappy head gear so they will spend the money on importaint stuf(ie helmet sholderpads ect ect)

i mean we can all ***** and moan all day but at the end of the day the guy with the ferrari is still driving a ferrari and you still have a AL6000....or somthing

just score more goals and get in the paper more than the other guy :)


-ragu

[Riot]

I'm new, but I'm not horrible. I can catch, cradle, pass, shoot just fine. I have awesome equipment, most of which I paid for myself. I need every advantage I can get.

[Superman]

If good kit is wasted on rubbish players, then why arn't all you supposed good players buying it instead?!

And if you're saying you don't need it, then what are you winging about?!

Also why should people be ashamed of having good kit, just becuase they can afford it and want it?!?!

i think someones a little spoiled... and australian. you should try to understand. its not the equiptment that makes the player. hell, i have arm pads from like 1985... the old school brines. i wouldnt trade those for anything. i dont need one peice of equipment to cost me over 70 dollars to be good. its not a fashion contest, its lacrosse. the only thing ill spend a lot of money on is my stick, and helmet because custom CPXs are a team thing.

[James]

I think one thing that new palyers should be alowed to have regardles of how good they are is nice gloves, they make all the world of a difference IMO. my mentality on kids with super nice stuff that cna play is just let them be and waste there money

[shoebag2000]

I just hate when people complain about a new kid having nice stuff. He may not be very good at first, but most of them will get better. I know that I am a prime example of this. I won't lie, my dad went all out when I bought gear for my first season. He wasn't very well off as a kid, but now he had a good job and can afford the best for his kids, and I am thankful that he can and does try to get the best for me and my sibilings. Now granted, I wasn't the best when I first started. But now, when kids ask me how long I have been playing and I tell them that this is only my second year, they are in disbelief. There are a ton of other kids on my team too that even in just this season have improved tremendously. So I think that you just have to give kids a chance. Granted, there are those few kids that should just stay as far away from sports as possible and maybe go play the tuba. But usually, when a kid signs up for a sport, he is going to try as hard as he can to get better.


Wow, sorry for the rant, just felt like getting that off my chest.

[NBLAX]

Actually, I think you've hit on half of the phenomenon. :idea: The really good players and the not very good players seem to have the best gear (with a few exceptions.) I don't really mind OK players having fantastic sticks. I have a Brine blaze on an f10, which is so bad that you probably haven't even heard of it. But I play better than guys on my team who have Razer Pros on Swizzles or Cpros, so it gets me annoyed when people think they can tell how good you are by asking you what stick you have. :bull: Dude, the second-best guy on my team last year was playing with a Ripper!

Amen to that. People on my team are like oh he has a bucket helmet he must suck.

I have an original cascade flat and i am one of the best on my team. i have a too pinched head and a great shaft fatboy, but it is all not as good as the new stuff like razor pros or cpx's one guy on my team it is his 1st year playing he has a finalizer with a rocket pocket. its ridiculous.

[RamLacrosse]

yeah, i know waht you mean. But its there money. They can do what they want. And when they trade up again you can buy the old stuff off em cheap.

[jklaxer50]

This kid on my team who is not too good goes out about 3 or 4 days after our first practices start and buys a razor pro on a python. Still is horrible with that. But on top of that the kid brings it to school and shows it off to everyone.

[carolinafreak]

to be fair though, equiptment does matter to an extent, i mean, you will definently do better if you have a finalizer instead of something like a ball hog. but spending a ton of money is just stupid

i got a finalizer(new) and a titan pro(minor dents) for only $100 :clap:

[Canada_Lax]

Maybe yours but not mine (other religions you know) :agree:


i know of no religion where people disrespect their own God. :dummy:

[c0letraiN]

Well, I admit, I have pretty nice equipment such as my Evo Pro, DB803, Defts, and CPX, BUT:
-This is my 3rd season with my school
-I have played in 2 summer leagues and will be playing in another one this summer
-Have went to 3 camps ( got my evo pro from the millon camp)
-AND, I pay for all my equipment.
But, what the heck, let them buy what they want to buy. I actually think they are embarresed by it because they have such nice stuff but go on the field for only a few minutes.

[spartacus9]

[QUOTE=nofear45465]how come the only thing on there is warrior? it looks like someone is a little biased.[QUOTE]
That is because it is the most expensive.

[RgLax]

I just have one kid who thinks hes a hotshot but is afaraid to get checked by even our worst longpoles. anyway he gets Ln evo pro and kpros for like a evo strung custom. he takes advantage of a kid younger than him who doesnt relize that he getting a bad deal. He had like 6 sticks at least 5 are worth over 200

[penguinwobbler]

i started this year and have some nice stuff, CPX, howitzer, finalizer but i make 1/2 the kids on my team look foolish. im already better than most of the kids on my team. but i think that is becuase i played when i was young, dropped it then picked it back up. but i ahve good equipment because i am good. and i got the howitzer for FREEEEEEE

[fattie64]

haha this is great

heres mine: we are a club sport and the guy who got us started basically owns us and is loaded and his son has been playing for like 8 years, but sucks. Hes a short fat little **** and he is slow as hell, anyway long story short: krypto pro kevlar, evo pro, razer, paid like $40 to get it strung (then had me restring it because it sucks hahaa), real nice pads, superfreaks, burns, and his fat little *** can make it down the field without stopping

its classic

[x-man]

I don't care what other kids have. All i care about is their ablility and if they are improving and how i am doing.

[LAX#16]

theres a kid on my team who is fat slow and has macdaddys a harrow and a torque and is the laziest and worst player on the team

[jhopkinslx4]

at my school all the rich kids suck and they have the nicest equiptment

[freeskier123]

there was some kid at a camp i went to that had never played before had mac daddys a cpx and a swizzle with a razor

[matt25]

This is my first year and i'm just buying the team equipment so i dunno how good the stuff is or anything and i bought an evo pro, but it's not like i ask my parents for the money for this stuff, i work for the money to get the gear.

[laxinkid93]

i dont have to worry about people sucking..NO ONE SUCKS IN MARYLAND :-)

[bellairelax]

i buy all my stuff from clearance bin. i encourage all the young bad players to do the same as me and since i've captained the team two years running they usually think they will be good if they do this.

[RockStar]

No point crying about hacks with expensive gear.....let them spend the money buying Warrior's shiny overpriced crap. Fact is there's really only three pieces of equipment that really matter:

-stick,
-gloves,
-helmet.

The helmet doesn't even matter much as long as your sightlines through the facemask are good. With the stick, it's really only the head+pocket.....a shaft is just a hunk of material to connect your hands to the head, so all you need is one that's not going to break too easily. I'm also not counting shoes because you'd need good shoes for any sport. Ditto with socks, underwear, cup, etc.

So, this means that the only stuff that really noticeably affects your performance is the head and the gloves. I'd suggest spending up to 2/3 to 3/4 of your total equipment budget just on head, helmet, gloves.

(Do you really think those shiny silver warrior shoulder/arm/rib pads are going to get you any extra goals?? They don't even make you look cool because they're under your sweaty, stinky jersey anyway!)

[LoyolaMiddie878]

No point crying about hacks with expensive gear.....let them spend the money buying Warrior's shiny overpriced crap. Fact is there's really only three pieces of equipment that really matter:

-stick,
-gloves,
-helmet.

The helmet doesn't even matter much as long as your sightlines through the facemask are good. With the stick, it's really only the head+pocket.....a shaft is just a hunk of material to connect your hands to the head, so all you need is one that's not going to break too easily. I'm also not counting shoes because you'd need good shoes for any sport. Ditto with socks, underwear, cup, etc.

So, this means that the only stuff that really noticeably affects your performance is the head and the gloves. I'd suggest spending up to 2/3 to 3/4 of your total equipment budget just on head, helmet, gloves.

(Do you really think those shiny silver warrior shoulder/arm/rib pads are going to get you any extra goals?? They don't even make you look cool because they're under your sweaty, stinky jersey anyway!)

agreed 100%.

i have a Viking, a Torque on a Wonderboy, and defts...

my arm pads are Brine Supercrosse slipons (only like $35)
and my shoulder pads are the Warrior Hitman one's (came in my starter pack)

most important is your stick, helmet, and gloves.

[laxmax137]

I just went to this lax camp and I saw a kid with freaks, pc shoulder pads, ventelater x arm guards, and a custom cpx. Every time he got the ball he would run (slowly) towards the goal not even bothering to cradle. He would get his stick knocked out of his hands every time. He just plain out stunk.

[MeRattack]

has anyone noticed that most horrible players have bad equipment!????!?!?!

[mkd1230]

this kid on my team had just started and he had:
Cpx Titanium
Harrow Field Attack(which really pisses me off cuz i hate bad players that have harrow shafts)
An STX Deuce(my first f***** stick was a warrior patriot)
Custom School Colored MacDaddys
Players Club Arm Pads
Players Club SHoulder Pads

[WinnytheSully]

i started last year (6th grade) and before that I had gone to camp for 4 years. I started out with average gear(maximus, element, rival, spartan lines of gear) and this year I decided that I could use some improved gear. I get allowance, but do some considerable chores for it so I basically earn it. I've got now
Cpro (present, but that was my half birth, xmas, and b day, all in 1)
G force shoulder (earned)
Ventilator Ap (earned)
I2 gloves (earned)
And I'm getting a db803 w/torque for christmas, but was planning on paying for it.
I was my teams leading scorer last year and will probably be captain this year

[wglax14]

last summer a kid came to camp decked out in all this sick stuff. custom triad, vent x AGs, warrior PC sps, custom Syracuse supercrosses, and he got it all just for the summer camp. thats it. he ended up only coming to like 5 days of it over the whole summer. talk about spoiled.

[LaxMaxVince]

I know a lot of rich kids who think that expensive equipment will make them look better and perform better. Heck, I know a 10 year old with a levitation. I mean come on, the levitation runs around what $179? I just started last spring, but I rocked just a simple Warpath on an alloy 2000. But then, i practiced everyday in summer until now, and ive improved a lot. But i hate how kids who are just starting out think they have to immediately get a nice stick, even if they havent perfected theyre passing and catching. I say a beginner should use an AV8 until his catching and passing is consistent and he can use both his dominant hand and is non dominant hand.

[dta06]

This kid joined last year. It was his first year ever playing lax, and he had bought a levitation, razer pro, superstars 2, supercrosse sps, and supercrosse ap's. Then he ended up quiting within a week

[LaxMaxVince]

No point crying about hacks with expensive gear.....let them spend the money buying Warrior's shiny overpriced crap. Fact is there's really only three pieces of equipment that really matter:

-stick,
-gloves,
-helmet.

The helmet doesn't even matter much as long as your sightlines through the facemask are good. With the stick, it's really only the head+pocket.....a shaft is just a hunk of material to connect your hands to the head, so all you need is one that's not going to break too easily. I'm also not counting shoes because you'd need good shoes for any sport. Ditto with socks, underwear, cup, etc.

So, this means that the only stuff that really noticeably affects your performance is the head and the gloves. I'd suggest spending up to 2/3 to 3/4 of your total equipment budget just on head, helmet, gloves.

(Do you really think those shiny silver warrior shoulder/arm/rib pads are going to get you any extra goals?? They don't even make you look cool because they're under your sweaty, stinky jersey anyway!)

Agreed 100% as well.

I just use some white cascade helmet, and an evo pro (on a klyte i got cheap on ebay!). The rest of my equipment is just some cheap stuff from sports authority (well i got ventilator X's. but thats becuase they were litereally the only arm pads my mom would let me get, ive broken my arm twice doing miscellaneous stuff and she doesnt want it happening again)

I pay for my equipment btw, i dont have my mom pay for it. All of my sticks have been self purchased, and the pads were for my bday/christmas (theyre three days apart!)

[nemesis attack]

well i play for a high school team and everyone gets the stuff exept a stick.
the players have to buy there own stick
which isn`t too bad

[KUjayhawks42]

I wouldn't say I have the nicest gear but I have a Finalizer, Titan Classic, and Macs. But I am also one of the best players on the team...best shooter and attackman hands down. I don't think people should critiseze people if they want to blow their money on equipment that they think will make them better. It's their money, let them use it how they wish and on what they wish.

[Salk lax D]

Ive been playing for one school season and a summer league and i have 6 heads and random shafts poping up every where i mean i started with an Answer and a throtle classic and the coathech put me on d fence so i went to buy a k lyte d pole and saw a finalizer4 short pole (alloy 2006 )dyed primceton colors and fell in love a nd bought that with a alloy 2000 D shaft aslo(How ironic) so over time my friend tells me he is selling his evo and k lye d pole for 75 buck and i said great deal ... bought it. then 2 weeks lata the pole bent , when i went to bend id back it snaped and i shaved the ends and got 2 shortys (legal) so i needed a new stick completely cause i reallize the finillazer really isnt a d head. sooo. i got a red k lyte (i still use as game shaft) and a revo pro so i used that to the end of my season so i got bored like in the middle of the summer leauge and crascked the finalizer and got a new one and said "hey how about that kid who had that razer" so i traded him the razer, but it tourned out that he taped up the cracked part but luckly i know a kid who works at lax unlimited soo i got a new one and its still never been used aand i still have it, so. i bought this blade for 50 bucks on a web site and eventually traded it for a razer pro ,,, the kid is fu*kin retarded ..... so i have that now and i eventually dyed the answerr i had red white and blue and piunched it box,,, dyed the revo pro pink... and bought an x2 for 15 bucks and like 5 years ago i bought an aftershock (Gait) and i still have that.yep oh and i have old ripped rpms and crappy shoulder pads and stole a nice helmet from the school (clh2) oh and got free gait arm pads


ill try to get pics lata

[phoenix-32]

i dont think its any of my business what someone decides to do with their money. if someone wants to have the nicest, newest, or most stuff, thats on them.

when you boil it down, gear only takes you so far. the people who make training their priority stand out alot more to me than the people with the hot gear.

[nemesis attack]

guys think of it this way-don`t be jelous because

-you can give the worst stick to a pro and he`ll be great
you give the best stick too someone whos never played ever and he`ll suck

[LaxDman62]

I have some nice stuff but I got it by finding deals, trading, and getting discounts. Some of my stuff isnt good tho like my dented al6000 shaft that I use for attack.

[LaxDman62]

i hate when i see these kids blaming their equipment for their errors, its one thing if you have to fix the stringing once or twice, but if you have top of line stuff its not the equipment thats slowing you down. But i agree that they have every right to own whatever they want whether its expensive or if they found it, i mean hey, if it works then go for it

yea i hate that

but sometimes like arm pads slidding can be blamed

Sometimes I think that kids on my team should get better sticks if they play attack or something with a ripper. Also some defensemen use shortsticks.

but buyng average priced pads is worth it since they will give you more protection

[MACDADDY]

ok i just thought and rethought. for noobs that read this forum, they are looking at all of the people say like "superfreaks and macs are the best gloves ever! get them!" as suggestions. then, they tell their mom/dad that they have to get those gloves and so on. its kinda our's, the store's(telling kids to buy espensive gear or something nice), and the advertisment(im looking at you morrow). i mean, theres a kid that just started a week ago and im just staring at him, and hes like"im going to get macdaddies right went i get on the JV team(our team that we put ALL noobs on no matter what), all because he read on TLF that macs were the best gloves ever.

[ekajsk8er]

ok i just thought and rethought. for noobs that read this forum, they are looking at all of the people say like "superfreaks and macs are the best gloves ever! get them!" as suggestions. then, they tell their mom/dad that they have to get those gloves and so on. its kinda our's, the store's(telling kids to buy espensive gear or something nice), and the advertisment(im looking at you morrow). i mean, theres a kid that just started a week ago and im just staring at him, and hes like"im going to get macdaddies right went i get on the JV team(our team that we put ALL noobs on no matter what), all because he read on TLF that macs were the best gloves ever.
Your username isn't exactly helping either....

It doesn't matter anyway. Let people get what they want. It's really no big deal. As long as you can burn them using your own equipment, what they have doesn't matter one bit.

[CHSLAX22x]

dont be hatin' just because you dont have the nicest stuff.(neither do I but i dont think it matters that much)

if someone happens to be spoiled and has a 100 dollar bill in his hand for his first lacrosse stick do you think think he would buy a brine ripper or a brine truth?

Put yourself in their situation, would you say hey, im a noob, i dont deserve the truth, im gonna buy the ripper, and give the rest of my money to charity!
I highly doubt it.

So for all you noobs, go ahead and buy $160 gloves and $100 heads and who knows what else, but dont expect to get respect as a laxer because of your gear, and when a coach picks a team, he doesnt care what stick you are using.

[Riot]

Ahh.. a kid that I sort of know demanded that I let him use my back up stick (p2) because his x2 "sucks".

[Ranimal1]

expensive stuff for 7th grader

[Ranimal1]

it is true bad players to get nice stuff, and it definitly doesnt give you any respect.

[Ranimal1]

i hope none of your D

[Ranimal1]

nice choice us goalies do better alive, also make sure you warm up cuz one guy died by getting his first shot ripped right at the chest, hit the ground and never got up! that warm ups important

[fsflaxer30]

Does it matter what other people have? Just play your game

[MeRattack]

how come no one accounts for all of the good players...most who have nice things like cpxs and nice gloves...well at least in my area, most of the beginners have beginner gear give or take a nice helmet or something

[THALAX]

I think everyone is getting off track and talking about beginning players. Of course they are gonna suck when they are beginners! These players that have been playing for a while (2 years), and suck at lacrosse because they never practice at home, and don't put any effort into the practices with their team, on the other hand are what really get me. They think if they buy nice gear it will substitute practicing. That is what gets me angry, because they basically show no interest in lacrosse, but still feel the need to buy all this new gear, and brag about how they play lacrosse and such.

[nd_lacrosse]

i dont really mind when really bad players have really good stuff. especially when they think it makes them better. i play D and i still wreck them, no matter how expensive their stick is.

[spencerportlax5]

I still use my original Edge. I got sick of having all the "top of the line" gear, and having it break after 4 or 5 games. So I went back to the edge, and I'm one of the highest goal scorers on our team.

[LaxCheck101]

Its not only that all the crappy players got the best stuff, but all the best kids have the crap stuff. I just wanta rip the stuff out of the horrible players hands and hand it to all the best players, i can't stand it

[creaseattack]

honestly I dont even care anymore, I dont look at other kids equipment on the field or off the field I use what I got and most others were I live have decent equipment so I dont really care. I dont play with horrible players because Im in high school and if your bad you get cut at most of the schools in my area. Its all about personel preferance and if they like it and it is making them better than great.

[Fire Dragon]

Ok i didnt read the huge number of replies
but...
all the good player on my team have good stuff... the decent jayvee first years have some good stuff. I however was pretty bad and had an Radius with hard mesh and pinched head... the stick cost $40 off the shelf (not with mesh). and i delt with it an entire season. an example of a horrible person with bad stuff... BUT im getting som new stuff now that i improved a HUGE deal

[kaley]

I have quiet good gear and this is just my second year and iam not so good... I like good gear beacuse it is nice and i always like the more expensive stuff :) dont ask me why :) but i can pass and so on... :)

My eq is :
mac daddy
k-pro
evo-pro
pc elbow guard 6.0
stryke Z (sucks)

[goldenHSdemons!]

not really

[michiganattack8]

does it really mater what other people have and how good they are? all that matters is that you practice, play, and perform better than you did last time. chalenge yourself before others :ahhno:

[MiddieMan05]

yah a kid on my school team has 12 sticks ya 12 sticks, a Cpx(with custom colours, Warrior 6.0 shoulder pads and Warrior cleats and the kid catches 1 of 20 passes at him.

12 STICKS!!! :jawdrop: that's CRAAAZY

[laxmandudeguy]

i live in a rich neighborhood so everybody no matter how good has all the best stuff

[VA lacrosse22]

I know a lot of rich kids who think that expensive equipment will make them look better and perform better. Heck, I know a 10 year old with a levitation. I mean come on, the levitation runs around what $179? I just started last spring, but I rocked just a simple Warpath on an alloy 2000. But then, i practiced everyday in summer until now, and ive improved a lot. But i hate how kids who are just starting out think they have to immediately get a nice stick, even if they havent perfected theyre passing and catching. I say a beginner should use an AV8 until his catching and passing is consistent and he can use both his dominant hand and is non dominant hand.

dude i know what you are talking about i started out with this stick by stx for about 10 bucks and now after four years of play im in middle school and ive been on a couple of all star teams ive got an evo pro and a criss cross shaft and these kids wo are just starting are getting sick sticks but they definitley don't deserve them with their level of play

[shoebag2000]

Jeez man, its not like you have to be the best to deserve nice stuff. Just because they are just beginning, doesn't mean they won't be the prodigy of your team.

[laxn]

I started with bottom of the line, im mean highwall on aluminum. I worked hrad to get my way to my P2 Sc+Ti. I used to play with a guy who was terrible, never practiced on his own, not a lot of natural talent expected for everything to fall into place by just showing up for practice. the kid had the nicest stuff always. He would have the most expensive stuff available, and would buy a stick almost every month. he always had the newest pads and usually about 5 sticks, each one twice as much as mine. I dont knwo where he is now but i never liked him. But that kind of stuff doesnt make me that mad, its only gonna make it harder for them, more advanced doesnt always mean better esp. with heads, too pinched heads with beginners and they can't catch (it happesn on my school team). It shows that having nice equipment helpes but definately cant make the player.

[Riot]

I started with bottom of the line, im mean highwall on aluminum. I worked hrad to get my way to my P2 Sc+Ti.
You mean you worked hard to earn the money for it? Or you worked hard enough to change your highwall on an aluminum into a P2 on an Sc+Ti.

[tomtom]

I've gotta say, with regards to all sports(especially track), I hate it when people think they're better because theyve got better stuff. Now they can buy whatever they want, I dont care, but if they try and talk down upon other peoples stuff it pisses me off.

And a note, not all new guys with custom pockets are spoiled/rich. This is my first year and I strang myself a nice little snatch&grab, first pocket I'd ever strung actually. im suprised how well it came out, and I saw another first year guy(with a bit less experience as Ive been doing off season stuff much more) with some really tight shooters, I advised he lossen em to get his shots higher. Nooooope. He's gonna take the stick and all to the next county over to a lax shop simply to have the shooters loosened.

[EHSLAX12]

the only person i have to refer to as begin bad but having better stuff, is my back up goalie. cpx ti, pc 6.0 chest, macs, stx ti and guardian, had it strung at laxunltd...its just unnecessary. i use stuff thats like half the price becasue its better...he thinks its flashy, which he thinks is also better.

[Buddha]

HAHA this is so true i have a nice stick and head
but my pads suck @$$ the areadrlenie 6.0 pads with cut shoulders off and spartan aps

[brett23]

they buy the nice stuff to make up for there horribleness

[Tehb2]

A kid last year who wasnt that great (or experieced) tries out for our school team, showing up with new mac daddy's and a new brine pulse, and he doesnt make it. (cause he sucks) Waste of good money on expensive equiptment for a kid that cant play. I'm only hard on this guy cause he's an @s$ to everyone, because he's so insecure about his lack of athletic ability. (he was on our freshmen soccer team, everyone gets on, he sucks but tries to bother everyone else like he's better)


I had the same old rib pads for 8 years (from second grade) and they were from the old stx beginner kit (w/e it was called) and one of the straps finally broke off last year at a fall tourney. I started varsity at my school last year as a frosh. ya dont need expensive equiptment to play well. (although I wouldnt mind some nice gear)

[WHAT is THAT?]

maybe you guys havent heard of this word but all them kids with great gear and amazingly have no skills are called GAMMERS :angry: :angry:

[-calattack5-]

yeahmost kids have either awesome gear or horrible gear. me i'm in my third year and i have decnt stuff cause im a decent player i mean i'm up there on our goal scorers list but im not at the top and i almost lead our team with assits like i played last night and got three goals and one assit so call me whatever. do i have to good of gear

helmet: CLH2 (Cascade; team helmet)
gloves: Warriior Adrenilines
Shoulders the old 3.0 hitmans
elbows: MPG 5.0 arm guard
head: proton power (my baby i'm always carrying it around)
shaft: somethin in the brine f-series 15 i think

[MACDADDY]

just in, some kid on my team got a splitshaft and hes only played 2 months, then, he got some defts.

some other kid has also played for 2 months, doesnt have the basics down, and is already going to buy voyce, helix, razer pro 2.0, and a levitation.

[cali feeder]

If you are upset that players who suck have great gear, then break their gear when you play against them. Just play your game, and let them attempt to play yours. The player makes the stick; the stick doesn't make the player. Keep that in mind when you are guarding a sucky kid with sweet gear.

[CHSLAX22x]

Do you want to know what the one thing that gets me more aggrivated than seeing bad kids with sweet gear?

The fact that this thread is still going strong. (I know im not helping my case by posting) But yeah, there are always gonna be cocky rich kids who go out and buy the best stuff right away, and assume thats all they need. You just need to ignore them and rise above. Its not worth argueing(sp) with them about because they just wont understand. As long as its not my money, quite frankly, i dont care if they have sick stuff, ive got to save up for a car/gas money

[MACDADDY]

ya know that all this though is making other people think that lax is ONLY a rich man sport, thats what makes those newbies buy expensive gear.

[Katosov]

This one girl at camp last year who was playing for the first time had two envys on harrows all in custom colors including the shafts for her school even though they didn't even have a varsity team yet. She also pronounced brine "brin".

[OwlsLax2]

One kid on my team last year came out with a CPX, Superfreaks, a Pulse, and Titan Pro. He played five minutes all year. This year, for our winter high school team, he came back with a whole new CPX that our team got (he could've just got the one he had then customized), a Scandium Air, and Superflys. I asked him why he didn't keep the stuff he had and he said because all the equipment was last years stuff and he wanted to be seen with this years equipment.

[goalie33fan]

I am not that great at lacrosse and I have a cpx, ventilators, titan laser, answer, and rhino kin. I have a job and bought it all with my own money. Who cares if I or they suck if they want the equipment they can have it. If you want the equipment get a job a job and get it.

[Stringer4Lax]

Not really. i mean its my first year of lacrosse but i have a Chaos with a RP. and im the leading defender on my team. Does having a $120 head make me bad?

[CHLaxMaster]

jus KICK stuck up guys with good gears [no profanity] on the field with whatever gear u got cuz no one will recruit u cuz u got like K18 all over u... they'll recruit the better player n as long as its YOU i wouldn't waste my thoughts on it...

[laxman01]

Kid at my camp had an evo pro, titan levitation, super flys, and a cpx ti yet he couldn't catch and could barely throw.

[butzie30]

I have pretty much beginner stuff like the adrenalines and clh2 helmet and a mojo on a vanadium

it has done the job for me so far but there are a few kids i know with really expensive stuff but they arent very good

[wdunc92]

The thing is that the equipment does not really matter that much. I mean seriously, if a shaft you have weighs slightly more than a light one, will that really affect your preformance? Not really. Even heads dont change it that much. I wento a camp this summer where a bunch of college players just used like 20 dollar sitcks to show that.

[digital]

i started out kinda like that. but i improved after a while. I started out with a classic razor and a alloy 2000.

[sick lax player]

There's a kid on my high school lacrosse team. he is really full of himself and no one else on my team likes him. He's a pretty bad player. So one day he decides to buy the SC21 Air shaft. I guess he thinks that it's going to make him better.

[david8072]

I just started and im not that good. like if people have the money and they can afford nicer stuff they should get it, unless they are unsure of if they will play.
I have a CPX and im new, but its because its my school helmet, i have hitman 6.5 because i got to use someone's and they were comfortable and i liked them, I have G force gloves, becuase my coach gave them to me, and my stick is a vanadium with a g force because it works for me, and an AL6000 just doesn't cut it in HS. you guys that put these people down are just jerks that think they're good, becuase they know people that are bad and are better than them

[Lil'Ryan]

Just beacuse people on your team have a CPX doesnt mean is your schools helmet and i use all bad stuff unless i get it for free it your good and use bad stuff some people think your bad thats what i do.

[digital]

I just started and im not that good. like if people have the money and they can afford nicer stuff they should get it, unless they are unsure of if they will play.
I have a CPX and im new, but its because its my school helmet, i have hitman 6.5 because i got to use someone's and they were comfortable and i liked them, I have G force gloves, becuase my coach gave them to me, and my stick is a vanadium with a g force because it works for me, and an AL6000 just doesn't cut it in HS. you guys that put these people down are just jerks that think they're good, becuase they know people that are bad and are better than them
haha i agree with you.
but notice that your new too so you dont know how it feels not being able afford good equipment even when your good.
not saying i cant afford.

[hukedonfonix]

my first year of playing i borrowed some of the teams extra gear,(old exo armpads(i think), crappy brine shoulder pads with like one strap, and an old cascade bucket, with an f10 and a blaze)

my next year i got a kryptolyte and old revolution, warrior mll arm pads, and some ultralyte 2.0s, with stx ignitors for gloves. grew out of that in about a year:banghead:
From then on i just get most of my stuff used off ebay, or maybe new if i can find it:naughty:
and i think all of my stuff now costs less than this one kid on my team who can barely pass, catch or shoot, and cant dodge for ****

[stinisonfire]

More expensive gear is generally more comfortable and more protective. If I'm just getting into a sport like lacrosse, I think most people will say "well it's a rough sport, I better well be protected".

All of the people who think beginners should start off with less-expensive stuff, I have a couple questions for you;

Would you seriously want to play with a CLH over a CPX or Pro7 if you could afford new stuff and see 10x better? Would you want to play with arm-pads or gloves that are bulky and stiff when you can get something comfortable and mobile?

That said, there is a difference in that and being spoiled. If you saw a kid who never plays, has a ton of gear and re-strings a head every week, then I can understand.

But leave the kids alone who just start off with new gear because they think i will level the playing field.

[david8072]

Just beacuse people on your team have a CPX doesnt mean is your schools helmet and i use all bad stuff unless i get it for free it your good and use bad stuff some people think your bad thats what i do.

ActuallytheCPX is my schoool hjlemet becuase we get them customized and can buy them for only 105. so yeah i know what im talking about when i say its my schhool helmet

[laxgoalie66]

Yeah...I've been playing for almost four years and I still use an STX Exo CP, STX PRO AMP gloves, and the only really nice things I have are my Nemi and my CPX. I still have a platinum thats beat up haha.

[Bretmac]

stins right we cant hate on kids for wanting to be protected and be comfortable just let the kids be and if it bothers you so much why dont you help them get better

[spike191]

Im gonna assume that most of the kids who have posted in this thread flameing kids with good gear are young kids to about freshmen. The older you get the more you realize that it doesn't matter either way, and that in highschool its the player not the euipment. It seems that most players go through three steps with equipment. The f1st stage is beginner, the 2nd warrior/expensive equipment, the final stage is slimer, less expensive equipment and team gear. Everyone seems to realize once they reach a varsity level that skill is much more important then anything that has to do with equipment

[hukedonfonix]

Im gonna assume that most of the kids who have posted in this thread flameing kids with good gear are young kids to about freshmen. The older you get the more you realize that it doesn't matter either way, and that in highschool its the player not the euipment. It seems that most players go through three steps with equipment. The f1st stage is beginner, the 2nd warrior/expensive equipment, the final stage is slimer, less expensive equipment and team gear. Everyone seems to realize once they reach a varsity level that skill is much more important then anything that has to do with equipment


amen:agree:

[ML_LAX09]

Wow, this thread makes me mad just reading it.
Especially the kids that say, "I'm new, but....." And they go on and explain why they have their equipment. "It's the team's helmet, go it from a friend, coach gave it to me..." No one cares, and no one wants you to explain why you have what you have.
End Rant

[laxgoalie66]

For me, when I'm new to something I usually borrow my friends stuff or some hand me down stuff, then once I figure out that I'm goin to stick with it, then I go out and buy at least decent gear, sometimes high end if its on sale or something but that way it's easier than getting new stuff til I'm good at the sport/activty and going to get nicer stuff. So basically, some people just start with nice stuff and don't buy new gear for a while, rather than buying beginner stuff then new stuff.

[bigdale9]

im an ok player but dont start every game currently. i use nice stuff but buy it all myself with my own money and usually on sale.

Last year on my team we had a kid NOT use a team helmet. (he used a custom triumph so he looks like varsity) wore supercrosse pro shoulder pads and used and axe because our best player used one (he begged his dad to get him this stuff and his dad did). He was not very good. never moved to get open, never chased bad passes and shots. However he told other people that they sucked. the only reason he played was because his dad was a coach.

Another kid had gforce shoulder pads, his own cpro, and a helix on a hero connor gil version. he said he was a beeaast and whatnot but quit before the season because the coach made us run alot

But hey what can I do about it.

[spyopticgoggles]

well, im just throwing this out there, maybe the kids that just started want to save money in the long run. if they know they like the sport, from borrowing gear or something, then they buy the higher end gear so they dont buy the beginner then the high end gear.

[D4LIFE]

omg this is so true. best part is when they make fun of my bent facemask on my Cascade garbage bucket helmet and my beginer pads (exept now i got nice gloves!) and like freshman year when i still liked my AV8 and AL6000 pole cause i didn't want to change it... then went out and tore the crap out of varsity with my garbage.

[CHLaxMaster]

i think we all have to draw a line between two kinds of ppl. theres type A and type B...

Type A is that kinda guy that has like daddy payin for all his stuff. Hes new to the game or just not good and he brags with his stuff flaming about other ppls equipment or playstyle.

and theres type B who is new to the game and has the money to afford expensive equipment (wether its bought by daddy or himself) and is just tryin to get in the game with good equipment ready to give his best to be better n get good at lax.

i can only say that i wouldn't judge ppl because of their eqipment as long as they're willing to learn n get better...

i'd just leave those "i'm like the 2nd kyle harrison because i got the k18 le stick and you suck!" guys alone n show 'em who the daddy is on the field.

[stinisonfire]

i think we all have to draw a line between two kinds of ppl. theres type A and type B...

Type A is that kinda guy that has like daddy payin for all his stuff. Hes new to the game or just not good and he brags with his stuff flaming about other ppls equipment or playstyle.

and theres type B who is new to the game and has the money to afford expensive equipment (wether its bought by daddy or himself) and is just tryin to get in the game with good equipment ready to give his best to be better n get good at lax.

This pretty much hits the nail on the head and re-iterates what I said.

There will always be the kids who want to look good while playing. I like to get new cleats before a season. If a new head came out, and I sold my old gear or saved up some money from a job, chances are I'll buy it and try it out.

All of the kids who have played and "worked their way up" to the "sweet" gear should answer this question; where you nearly as good as you are now when you started?

So what if some kid has a new stick; they're new to the game and they're being told by someone that this is what they need to play. Chances are they'll have the money to buy it. I know if I had the money when I first started, you better believe I would of gladly played with Mac Daddies and a CPX instead of the RPMs and CLH I borrowed from the defenseman who lent them to me. Hell, I would of tried to get a pair of goalie gloves had I known they offer better protection a pair of field ones. I didn't know what goalie gloves were until I got a pair from college the following year. You don't think I wished I had prior knowledge or the gloves themself after breaking my fingers / thumb a couple of times?

Whoever said this earlier is right, no one cares if you play with old gear and you're still good. I have friends in college who still play with platinum alloys from 11th grade and unpinched protons because they have gotten so used to it. I know pro goalies who still like playing with the original Abyss. The only difference is that they don't brag about it. Kids who brag about playing with old gear and trash on n00bs are just as annoying as the kids who play with new gear; it's just a matter of preference and how comfortable you are with it. Realize it or not, but you're showing that same superiority complex towards some kid you assume has one themselves.

I played with a CPX for several years after playing with a CLH and CPro, but now I've grown to like my Triumph better. Does this mean I can enjoy my Triumph more because I've "earned" it? No, and I'd recommend the helmet to any kid playing because I'd rather pay the money for better vision.

In short; LEAVE BRITTNEY ALONE! SHE'S A HUMAN! WAHHHH!

[rynolax]

It doesn't bother me much, and I couldn't care less what sticks people use. I have a few different sticks, but I bought them with my own money. My pads are decent, and I have a great helmet (Riddell). If someone was dumb enough to buy all that stuff, even if they know they suck, then who cares. Go out on the field and show them that you don't need great gear to be a great player. I get new sticks sometimes, but when one stick comes in, usually another one is going out. I don't understand why it bothers people when others have nice equipment, let them spend their money how they want it. I mean, I started with a Blaze on an f10, then I bought another one. Then my coach gave me a Savage on an Al2000. Then I got a Hype on an Al6000, and I still have all of these sticks, except for one of the f10s which I tried to make a crankshaft out of using a vice (didn't work so well).I also had STX Fusions, used. I would still have them if I hadn't forgotten them at the local field then lost them in the rain.

[laxplaya77]

It only bothers me when the kid is a spoiled little brat and doesnt have to work for money to buy any gear/sticks. If it is a gift or if your parents just want you to be safe so they demand to buy you top of the line gear, I think its fine. I played with a really crappy alloy 2000 and a USA head for a while, and so did my friend, and now me and him are the best on the team and obviously we have gotten new gear since then. But I think if you play with really crappy equipment at first, and then work your way into newer gear, then you will be that much better. I just hate those kids who ask mommy and daddy for money all the time. Get a job.

[bigdale9]

It bothers me when a kid who brags about how good he is and how good his equipment is better than yours and your standing there better or as good as he is with wose stuff taking it. or a kid buys expensive equipment and dosen't even play, i mean what a waste of money

I waited until i got better at lacrosse to buy better gear.

[sta lacrosse]

1st of all who cares, if they suck and buy expensive stuff thats up to them. Its how they play on the field that counts. If they play good then they will be recognized if not the then the opposite. Its there choice so why do you care. Worry about yourself basicly. Seems like i have seen quite a few threads like this.

[TCTexas1]

there was a new kid at a camp that i went to. his first time playing. he had an rp, evo pro, some 150$ harrow shaft and a cpx. i had the starter crap but i had played during the regular season. by the way that was like 5 years ago.

[5lax4life5]

i completly agree theres one kid on my team with a harrow i-beam and a h2 head with a pita pocket...he sucks...ive been playing for 4 years and i just got a proton power and a zirconium with 6d mesh the only reason this kids on our team is cause he knows the coach then theres me and everyone else who has to work for it

[SliNg MaN]

word up! kids with skills do get the better gear. all i spent my money on was my stick. everything else is welfare (:

[AJN]

im not that good, but i have some good stuff. but i have a job, and its my money so ill spend it as i like.

[kleinlax-75]

i dont htink it matters how good of gear you have, it doesnt make you better, so why worry about other kids whos gear is fantastic but are jv-b as juniors, its their play

[cchslaxman]

i know people like that, plenty of ppl like that. ive been playing 8 years as of this season and am a good player. i have some nice things (lopro arm guards from this christmas (49$), the old brine spartan sp (payed 21$ for them), bent ignite supra (i forget how much it was, i bought it new), revo pro, flys that have to last me 5 years which idc about cuz i will make them, and a cpx (team thing). now im only a freshman and i do wish i used older stuff but idk. now, my highschool is a catholic school but not a rich school by all means, lax is still a club. we dont have air conditioning at the school either wich sucks. going to some of the fall practices, i felt embarassed cuz all the other players use the crappiest stuff, im not saying they are good, some of them dont really care about the sport just their friends do it so they think they can be good at it. im better than most of them but its still embarassing to have nice stuff. but i wont forget my first stick that i had for 2 1/2 years... a patriot with not a centimeter worth of pocket to it. sorry, i tend to write a lot sometimes...

[SuperDuper46]

I know a lot of rich kids who think that expensive equipment will make them look better and perform better. Heck, I know a 10 year old with a levitation. I mean come on, the levitation runs around what $179? I just started last spring, but I rocked just a simple Warpath on an alloy 2000. But then, i practiced everyday in summer until now, and ive improved a lot. But i hate how kids who are just starting out think they have to immediately get a nice stick, even if they havent perfected theyre passing and catching. I say a beginner should use an AV8 until his catching and passing is consistent and he can use both his dominant hand and is non dominant hand.

i feel the same way my first three stcicks were a proton on some thing($40 bucks), blaze f10 powergrip,and av8. i still use my starter elbow and shoulder pads, and would be use my gloves if they werent illeagal for ripping. kids should learn the game before thwy spend all that money.

[laxguy123]

eh i got top line everything, i am not horrible, i just have hook ups

[brainddeadjock]

rich parents who think the equipment make the player. I prove it all the time to the kids I coach. I challenge any on them one-on-one, they have a d-pole and I have a custom strung AV8.

I always win.

I do get some grief for having K18's, but I use old STX PG22 gloves to make sure they can't say it is the gloves.

[bwlax33]

i hate when i see these kids blaming their equipment for their errors, its one thing if you have to fix the stringing once or twice, but if you have top of line stuff its not the equipment thats slowing you down. But i agree that they have every right to own whatever they want whether its expensive or if they found it, i mean hey, if it works then go for it

i can't stand that
after one of our games this kid was flipping out because he dropped like 10 passes and flung a shot 5ft over the crossbar. Came to practice the next day new shaft, about $150(cant remember model), cyber pro, and a custom string job. He still sucked so he never used it again. Waste of about $250. My parents would kill me. lol

[torreylax]

Has anyone noticed that all the players that suck have all this great equipment. its like eqipment going to waste. I personally have a cascade helmet flat rim with Warrior RPM's that i found and a brine answer with a warior fatboy i got from my cousin who got it from princeton. JUst to put that out there....Talk about it with us and tell a story!!!

totally ive got a kid on my team whos got a diamond shaft, a head that he got custom strung, superflys, and shoguns. He can barely take a single slap check and runs about as fast as a sloth... he payed for none of it.

[LaxIzKool]

I have a kid who is very first year playing gets superflys, players club shoulder pads, pc elbow pads, a helix with rockit pocket on a dolomite and to top it off cpx and speed burns. and he is tiniest person ever and cant even run

[Wooks]

I'm a little bit guilty of this. I'm not good, i'm very inexperienced. Instead of hitting the wall or practicing, I string my head better or look at what equipment I want.

I'm not doing this as much though anymore.

Edit: On the other hand, my equipment isn't actually that nice... but I'm guilty of paying too much attention to my equipment, when it's not as important as I think.

[Shawanamomma]

i just started 3 years ago i got all my stuff from trading either on the lax forums or friends

the only thing i bought w/ my own $ were kings that i got for 100 and i am actually really good for a "newb" but im in a division one school w/ kids playing there whole lives so i dont look that good

[HVlaxa7]

Where's Vane? :chuckle:

This one person on my team had a Levi and an Evo Pro, then someone bent the Levi, so he got a titan classic. :nono:
i have that same setup...uh oh

[kgncoughlin]

i agree that it is annoying but i honestly dont really care i have nice stuff, mostly from gifts or me buying it.

Like i got a K18 w/ ti crank for my b-day after using a truth that became extremely illegal and before that was the blaze f10 for 2 years and before that the shotgun a6 combo.

i used a bucket helmet until 7th grade and then got a clh2 used for 3 seasons and now just ordered pro7 cause my clh2 no longer fits

i got superflys for christmas because my defts ripped (had for 2.5 seasons) but before that i used whatever our youth league had

i have been playing since 2nd grade and am now in 10th and the best player on our JV team (but we moved 4 guys up to varsity)

[bonebrakr12]

this one kid on my team is sooo new he doesnt know what kind of stick he bought. he is too lazy and sits around instead of playing and drinks gatorade. he plays with mac daddys and a excal on a friggin' scandium. makes me mad cause i want a excal on a scandium pole...:banghead:

[Jourmane]

I have been holding a lax stick for probably about 20-25 hours. I AM A NEWB! I started out on a POS broken ripper and a brine LE 6000 whatever... it was horrible. So as of right now i have 1 month to get ready for tryouts. I bought a revo pro. Used it for 2 weeks and decided that, hey im getting better, so i strung it the way i like. I thought i did a freakin awesome job fr a 1st timer. Better than most of the mesh jobs i see on this website. After I bought the Revo, my boss, that is a summer camp coach, gave me an f-10 that was all dented and stuff. That is what i use now. And over the past month i have gotten so much better. Today i bought Warrior Hypnos, bcuz the guy gave em to me for 45$ new. And i got some of last years GAit Armpads, for like 25$. Its not the best gear and its not the worst, but i think i deserve what i have for all the effort i have put into this sport thus far. 1-2 hour practices everyday, 1 hour of wallball and tryouts havent even started yet.

EDIT:
i just bought a slightly used klyte for 30$ used for 3 practices... not a scratch... So yeah, i'd say i have a nice stick now..

[footballlax20]

I believe that a player should progress from bad equipment to good equipment. i myself started with a gait icon, then i went up to a nitrous. If it werent for rutgers camp (they gave out E3s) i would probably be using the nitrou s to this day. But once one masters skills with cheaper equipment, they will much better with the better equipment. Theres kids who are terrible who start out with evo pros and razers. if anything the good equipment hinders the development of beginning players.

[JohnnyLax]

Lol..Well im just starting out i dont have great Equipment

i have exodus II gloves, Krpytolyte Shaft,Bionic Head, K-18 Arm pads, Cascade Cpx Helmet, Shock Doctor Chest pads... And only reason i spent 400$ for my helmet and gloves was because my HS team required them.

[laolax]

sophomore on our team who has never played a lacrosse game in his life owns a pro7. i want to shoot him

[SoCald]

i agree with this i think that how good the stuff is makes a slight difference...to a point like i dont see much of a different between a titan classic and a swizzle. i think it has more to do w/ being able to say you spent that. its all about status

most kids on my team have k-18's, i dont get it..its like it tries the deflect the pokechecks even though if the guy is good enough, can get you in the crease in your pads. and amplifies the damage from body checks..theyre dumb

[oclax155]

woah same i got a mojo on a vanadium wit adrealine 7.0 and clh2 r u like my long lost twin?

[xXx06laxXx]

yea same thing happened on my team. these kids that never played before got all new equipment. one kid got brand new k18 arm pads and shogun shoulder pads. another kid got a brand new cpx w/ facemask and new gait gloves. another kid got the brand new harrow gloves w/ the pump.omg too many to tell

[kgncoughlin]

so trick him into trading you his stick for one that is crappy so long as noone rats you out it will work like a charm

[CrakerJak]

theres this one kid that is absolutely decked out in warrior, freaks, pc7.0, pc arm guards. levitation and evo pro, its ridiculous. he sucks too.

[LaxIzKool]

bone if he is new ask him if you wanted to trade sumting, he might go for it....

[stflaxnewb]

just started playing a month ago and got pretty decent equipement to start, and am now regreting it. i'm trying out my friends' gear on the team and am realizing that they are good purely because of skill and not equipement. It's nice to have decent gear though, but there is another new guy on my team to has played for the same amount of time as me and bought a freakin 10d crankshaft and xcalibur after two weeks and he is horrible

[carolinalaxr]

ive spent a grand total of $180 on sticks over a 9 year career. i started out w/ an f22 ($50) and an edge ($30). Then my cousin gave me a razer and some idiot wanted my f22 so badly that he gave me a titan pro for it. my razer of 5 years broke the 2nd day of practice this year, so i just ordered and evo pro w/ a rp. pretty good for 9 years.

[middiesrulz]

I think rich player's parents will buy them really good stuff, send them to really good camps, they will be better than an average player who just started but usually the rich player doesn't have the athletic ability, the extra push that makes a player good. I think all the rich players who plays the game just because their friend plays and they want to do it just to look cool and are afraid of getting hit should just quit.

[Fulltoneguitar]

With guitars and music, you get the tone and skills from your hand, not your guitar or amp, the same holds true for everything. Its not the equipment that makes the player better, its the player themselves

[Topcorners]

Where's Vane? :chuckle:

This one person on my team had a Levi and an Evo Pro, then someone bent the Levi, so he got a titan classic. :nono:

Haha, thats too good. Reminds me of some kid on my team who had perfectly new Exo 2's and he said he didn't like them because they were all white and he ended up getting K18's white...with some blue.

[Hovallax41]

I have kids on my team that are new and have, helix's, evolutions, revo pros, and stiffis.

[yay0me]

There's this guy I know who plays like less then a quarter who has superfly's, those Player club SP and AP with a CPro and a Stiffi on a Sc Ti pole and player club RP's. Rib pads on D! Come on. But I have some nice stuff too I guess. I have an 803 pole with a Revo 2.0 and I pro's. But the rest of my stuff is like beginner setup from my local lax store. haha. but I almost never get pulled out of the game. so ya...haha

[shadowelite84]

im not gunna lie, i have some pretty nice stuff. but the thing is that most of them are from my brother that doesnt play nemore. but like i got custom superflys last summer after working all summer to pay for that and 2 new heads. the gloves i havnt used till this season, i had 8 practices, than they broke... i was not happy. but there is one kid on my team with 19 sticks, 3 pairs of custom mac daddys, 3 CPX pros, like 3 different shoulder+elbow pads. he is a pretty good player, but he hogs the ball like hell. some of his sticks he just ahs because his brother plays for a team sponsered by harrow. but it still pisses me off, cuz he has 3 levitations

[middiesrulz]

yeah I'm ok with people getting hand-me-downs that are still good and people who are good getting sponsored and getting good stuff but i hate it when newbies get good stuff that they probably won't use

[shadowelite84]

i mean, i have been playing for five years, and i still use the same elbow pads, the only reason y i got the others cuz my brothers hand me downs were nicer than mine lol. i still got those Brine spartan elbow pads. old as hell, but if it aint broke, no need to fix it

[knighthawklax19]

ya a couple kids on my team have things like titan classics with truths and razor 2.0 pros and ive been playing for 5 years and i have a blade 2.0 only cuz its *****in at face offs and an f-15 shaft cuz its a beast

[Boilanger]

Since I've just gotten back into the game, and gave my old gear away cuz I outgrew it, I had to buy new stuff, so right now I'm rockin with a Brine Rocket head and a Brine 6000 shaft, total of 60 bucks, I have a total of 6 lax balls to my name (that'll be changing shortly), a CLH2, and the Warrior Hitman 5.5 pads...and Hypnos, I'll upgrade as I get better at it haha.

[steveopp4]

best equipment = least protective in most cases.

you look at any legit good attackman, im willing to throw down a stack that they got some crappy shoulder pads theyve had since they were a young buck and have since cut half the pads off. so you can tell all the bad players by how much they stack up the pads.

the same goes for keeps, notice any MLL goalies weaing a big CP, nahhh dude therre rockin the bottom of the line young buck pad that is meant for the kid rockin the top of the line gear.

so you can tell these rich kids that got they daddys buyin em top of the line **** that your ****tin on them with a set up that cost about a forth of what they sportin.

IT AINT THE TOOL, ITS THE FOOL.

[ML_LAX09]

I think rich player's parents will buy them really good stuff, send them to really good camps, they will be better than an average player who just started but usually the rich player doesn't have the athletic ability, the extra push that makes a player good. I think all the rich players who plays the game just because their friend plays and they want to do it just to look cool and are afraid of getting hit should just quit.

I agreed untill the but. Then you went from actually making sense to just sterotyping.

With guitars and music, you get the tone and skills from your hand, not your guitar or amp, the same holds true for everything. Its not the equipment that makes the player better, its the player themselves


I would love to see how you can get tone from your fingers. You do get the tone from your guitar/amp BTW.