View Full Version : 3PP now holds world record!!!
3rdPersonPlural
05-02-2006, 09:23 PM
4 quarters, not a flag thrown!!
1 man mechanic, too.
40 year rivalry. Sure it was JV, but those kids behaved and there was some pretty play.
Anybody else gone 4 quarters without flyin' their linen?
MinnetonkaLax
05-02-2006, 09:40 PM
thats impressive, im not even gonna lie
CoachRob
05-02-2006, 10:03 PM
All this tells me is that you forgot your glasses again 3PP!!
3rdPersonPlural
05-02-2006, 10:22 PM
Hey, Rob, you know that you get involved early and often if its just one guy. That's just good planning.
However, these kids apparently had listened to my pregame warning that 'where there's smoke, there's fire' and also listened to the reminder that both schools had an honor code so I wanted kids who broke a rule to raise a hand.
By the end of the second q I was starting to question my own vision, but all I managed were a few play ons and lots of warnings.
5-1 final score. This is a little slice of heaven for a ref. I'm just here to gloat......
laxfan25
05-03-2006, 07:44 AM
In my game last night we went one quarter without a flag - I was happy about that!
LaxRef
05-03-2006, 07:49 AM
I've had college games with only 2-3 flags for the crew the entire game, but I don't remember if I had any or not.
I once spent an entire half without having to run the single side at all; that's a record that's hard to beat, since one out of every 3 quarters you start on the single side!
laxfan25
05-03-2006, 08:14 AM
I'm not sure if the "no flags" thing is an enviable record. :grin:
I watched a MS game this weekend with two of our newbie refs, and I don't think they even blew their whistles except for out of bounds. (Lord knows there were plenty of opportunities that were missed!) Time for the remedial training class...
LaxRef
05-03-2006, 08:47 AM
I'm not sure if the "no flags" thing is an enviable record. :grin:
I watched a MS game this weekend with two of our newbie refs, and I don't think they even blew their whistles except for out of bounds. (Lord knows there were plenty of opportunities that were missed!) Time for the remedial training class...
Well, no flags is bad if you're not calling anything because you're clueless, but it's good if you know what you're doing and you just have control ofthe game and well-behaved teams.
I worked with a newbie once who was reluctant to even blow the whistle on a sideline OOB, let alone a flag. He did call a defensive failure to advance (the old 10-seconds-to-the-DCL count) at one point; the only problem was the ball was already in the attack area when he called it (and they'd run the ball down there; they didn't Gillman it).
spenny
05-03-2006, 09:20 AM
lol. i saw a game last week where on 3 occasions, all 3 refs threw their flags at once.
lots of laundry that day
LaxRef
05-03-2006, 10:15 AM
lol. i saw a game last week where on 3 occasions, all 3 refs threw their flags at once.
lots of laundry that day
In priciple, this shouldn't happen, since that means they're all watching the same thing, and they're supposed to be watching off-ball action as well. But in transition sometimes you all end up watching the ball.
3rdPersonPlural
05-03-2006, 10:41 AM
In the interest of full disclosure, there were plenty of loose ball fouls and a few attackmen in the crease. There were a few possible holds (I would have called those at the varsity level) in the first quarter that drew warnings, but they stopped.
There was also a frustration-born IBC with under 5 seconds to go, but it was a little attackman who bounced off the back of a sturdy defender and barely staggered him. I grabbed my flag, glanced at the clock, realized that I'd never get to assess the penalty anyway, considered my pending place in history, and waited for the horn.
ploaref
05-03-2006, 10:50 AM
3PP fails to mention that this was a Nintendo "version" of a JV boys lacrosse game... :laugh:
Woodenstick
05-03-2006, 12:33 PM
Personally, I am amazed, I think JV games are the hardest to ref and generate the most flags of any level through varsity HS. I had a JV game yesterday where I only called slashes for shots to the head, not for hacking, and I thought a whole game with no hacking fouls was as good as it gets, guess I was wrong!.
3rdPersonPlural
05-03-2006, 01:06 PM
Woody, the worst is Middle school. Those kids are all over the map in skill sets and physical maturity and attitude. Half of them are growing so fast that any control they had in years past has just faded away. Lots of brand new kids looking for spring football. The coaching is not the same as it is in HS.
The head cases that HS coaches weed out are still in the MS program, though.
Longpole5435
05-03-2006, 04:42 PM
The head cases that HS coaches weed out are still in the MS program, though.
Some of us survived extinction :chuckle:
Others became goalies
3rdPersonPlural
05-03-2006, 08:03 PM
Some of us survived extinction :chuckle:
You're tame, Longpole, compared to some of the spoiled head cases I encounter.
FitzGoalie
05-03-2006, 09:16 PM
wow....in our last game (in which we upset the self proclaimed "best JV team in NC") the final penalty count was:
RJR: 3 flags
Grimsley: 14 flags
so i'm very glad to here that there are civil JV teams out there
Woodenstick
05-04-2006, 10:44 AM
Woody, the worst is Middle school. Those kids are all over the map in skill sets and physical maturity and attitude. Half of them are growing so fast that any control they had in years past has just faded away. Lots of brand new kids looking for spring football. The coaching is not the same as it is in HS.
The head cases that HS coaches weed out are still in the MS program, though.
Most of our middle school players play in youth leagues that have the no take out checks, no one handed checks and other rules that stifle crazyness. Probably a good thing too....
rosslax37
05-04-2006, 11:10 PM
My team seems like a bunch of savages comapired to your guys teams'. Last night the JV had 15 time serving penalties and Varsity had 16(I had two). I dont think the game was to out of hand but the refs were incredibly bad. Right before i was about to body check someone i could already see the flag being thrown before I even hit him. However, we did pretty well concidering we were 2 man down 3 times during the game.
laxfan25
05-05-2006, 08:00 AM
Right before i was about to body check someone i could already see the flag being thrown before I even hit him.
Perhaps the referee correctly realized that the player had passed or shot the ball several seconds beforehand, and knew you were going to deliver a late hit. Just one possible interpretation.
If the refs assessed 31 penalties, they obviously weren't afraid to make the call (much more dangerous situation) and it sounds like the two teams needed more self-control. Before saying the refs were bad, maybe the teams should look in the mirror.
It's amazing when two teams play a clean game how "good" the refs are, but in a hack-fest they're bad. In a game last night I had a D man hit a shooter (not overly late) but high and with a crosscheck. I gave him 2 minutes, but the player was down for several minutes. No one said it, but parents could complain "you've gotta protect the players!". Unfortunately, we can't do much until the crime has been committed. So if two teams are playing over the edge, it may appear that the game is out of control, but if the penalites are being properly assessed, there's not a lot we can do. (Although in such a game I will go to the benches and coaches and tell them to get their teams, sticks and bodies under control - and will be quick and heavy with the flag).
Longpole5435
05-05-2006, 02:09 PM
You're tame, Longpole, compared to some of the spoiled head cases I encounter.
Thats my meds talking :chuckle:
Only kidding of course
laxstar841
05-10-2006, 10:09 PM
i'v never had a game without a flag thrown or come even close