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KnightsLAXDad

05-10-2006, 10:51 AM

Someone on the OLA forums had an interesting comment regarding Rock owner, Brad Watters.

It seems that he was a stock day-trader at one time. Day-traders creed is never hold anything overnight, regardless if you are up or down. Everything is short-term, no such thing as a long term investment. The assumption is that the same principle is being applied to the sports teams he owns, or has owned. Watters track record seems to back this up, Ottawa Rebel, Montreal Xpress, Ottawa Renegades.....

Marty(Rock Fan)

05-10-2006, 12:47 PM

its too bad he got fired. he's a good coach

RockStar

05-10-2006, 02:10 PM

Well, it was a fairly lousy season, and the only big personnel difference between this year and the year before was Glen Clark leaving for Philly.

Is the lousy season all Sanderson's fault? No, but something had to be done. I truthfully thought he'd get part of next season to turn things around, but I guess the Watters clan thought a clean sweep before draft time was necessary.

Oh well, life goes on.

Good luck to both Sanderson and to the Rock.

RedBird1

05-10-2006, 02:36 PM

#15Roadies

05-10-2006, 04:50 PM

yes but...

Toronto's lacklustre, painful-to-watch season wasn't just a TS failure. There are a few players who I'd ship out as well. A few big underachivers who were more interested in the show than the game.

So Terry leaves and two more franchises open up. With the level of parity this year, having an experienced Sanderson as your bench boss just might make the difference to the new guy.

And let hope the Watters-thing doesn't degenerate into a Ballard-thing for those old enough to remember the painful-to-watch Leafs under Harold Ballard. If so, dust off those pyramid power hats 'cause the Rock are going to need 'em!

Lax_Luver

05-10-2006, 08:09 PM

:bye: At least he still has SANDERSON SPORTS the best lacrosse store north of the border

laxgoalieking

05-10-2006, 09:35 PM

:bye: At least he still has SANDERSON SPORTS the best lacrosse store north of the border
yeah f ur into somehwat overpriced items........i think this is the best thiongt for the rock, now they will relise what a mistake it was gettin rid of cosmo, watson will likely retire after this season along with some other big guys for the rock. i dopnt like his offense first game plan, defence wins games. les was a defensive master, terry came in and totaly messed with a perfedt system.

KnightsLAXDad

05-11-2006, 06:56 AM

Not a terrible decision. I was never a huge fan of Sanderson, but its hard to live up to a Les Bartley, and he did win us a cup as coach. Its definitly not his fault they were underachievers this year. 2006 just wasnt the Rocks year.

Yes, but it is part of the coach's job to motivate his players. All the talent in the world is useless if you can't get them to use it. Just watch what happens when the Sens go down in flames to Buffalo......

RockStar

05-11-2006, 07:33 AM

............ now they will relise what a mistake it was gettin rid of cosmo.......
You keep hammering on this.

The Rock won in 2005 and it wasn't the fracking back-up goalie that carried them there!

In fact, I'd challenge you to point out one case in recent history where a box lacrosse team won a championship strictly because they had the best backup goalie.......I know of one, but I'm curious to see if you do. Hint, I don't mean NLL, think Ontario lacrosse.

BTW - How's Cosmo's team done since he was traded?
They have two great backup goalies (Brandon Miller and Matt Vinc), so they should be doing great, right? :naughty:

mikecoyle

05-12-2006, 08:52 PM

terry sanderson, head coach and gm of the toronto rock, was fired yesterday read more at www.nll.com
Good old Orangeville boy.

laxgoalieking

05-12-2006, 08:58 PM

You keep hammering on this.

The Rock won in 2005 and it wasn't the fracking back-up goalie that carried them there!

In fact, I'd challenge you to point out one case in recent history where a box lacrosse team won a championship strictly because they had the best backup goalie.......I know of one, but I'm curious to see if you do. Hint, I don't mean NLL, think Ontario lacrosse.

BTW - How's Cosmo's team done since he was traded?
They have two great backup goalies (Brandon Miller and Matt Vinc), so they should be doing great, right? :naughty:
howd watson do this year? if cosmo was still here they would sill be playing.

RockStar

05-13-2006, 12:39 AM

howd watson do this year?
he made the playoffs in the toughest division in pro lacrosse. How'd Cosmo do?

if cosmo was still here they would sill be playing.
Bullspit. The Rock were terrible except for that string of wins in the middle of the season. No one could have saved them, not even Cosmo.

Hooligan

05-13-2006, 08:14 AM

I see a lot of "coulda - shoulda - woulda" goin on here. If this, then that. Whatever.

Sanderson was a hell of a coach, but his personality didn't match up very well with his team (both players and management). Unless you get along with everyone, you can find yourself on the outside looking in, even after a somewhat disappointing season. Most coaches would have survived this season, but if the team has any excuse to fire you, and they don't like you, then a season like the 2006 one, will cause you to pack your bags.

RockStar

05-13-2006, 09:51 AM

I see a lot of "coulda - shoulda - woulda" goin on here. If this, then that. Whatever......

I think Terry's a difficult guy to play for.

Once he gets the right team together, they'll crawl over broken glass for him for a few seasons, but then they seem to reach a breaking point and look like they're quitting on him.

I'll fire out a theory that part of the problem may have been that he lost some of the key veteran players. This would cause a problem of divided loyalties.

Now, I've heard about an isolated Sanderson incident which also helped make the decision to lose him final. Buy me a beer sometime, I'll tell ya what I heard from two reputable sources!

Now, Bill Watters has been a fairly successful agent and GM at the NHL level, so if he saw this happening, he'd would have known exactly what to do......dump the coach and bring in someone he trusts for the interim.

Marty(Rock Fan)

05-13-2006, 11:00 AM

i think he was difficult to play for as well. i heard that he lost it when the Rock blew a 9-2 lead and lost 10-9 this season

Chamoo

05-13-2006, 02:19 PM

:bye: At least he still has SANDERSON SPORTS the best lacrosse store north of the border

Best Lacrosse Store North of the Border = Blades in Whitby

Chamoo

05-13-2006, 02:24 PM

he made the playoffs in the toughest division in pro lacrosse. How'd Cosmo do?

Bullspit. The Rock were terrible except for that string of wins in the middle of the season. No one could have saved them, not even Cosmo.

LaxGoalie is trying to say that Cosmo was the goalie of the future for the Rock and that when Watson got too old (specifically this year), Cosmo would be able to step in and take the number one job from him. With Terry coaching, that would never happen since Watson and Sanderson are drinking buddies. Cosmo put up a better G.A.A and Save Percentage on a team worse then the Rock. Cosmo should still be in Toronto.

The Frost

05-15-2006, 10:27 PM

As always none of you know what your talking about when it comes to the ROCK. Sanderson is a terrible coach and if you played for him you'd know that that's why it looks like the guys give up on him because THEY DO! He's not fit to coach a peewee team. Clarke, who is a Les Bartley boy, may do a little better but I'm willing to bet that Veltman will be a playing coach this year. Watson will not be retiring this year either, there are still alot of good years left in him, he needs a team in front of him. Doyle will be gone next year after his terrible display this year and the fact that he wanted to be traded last year. If the ROCK can't stop their internal bickering they will go nowhere. And that's all I got to say about that.

laxgoalieking

05-15-2006, 10:44 PM

LaxGoalie is trying to say that Cosmo was the goalie of the future for the Rock and that when Watson got too old (specifically this year), Cosmo would be able to step in and take the number one job from him. With Terry coaching, that would never happen since Watson and Sanderson are drinking buddies. Cosmo put up a better G.A.A and Save Percentage on a team worse then the Rock. Cosmo should still be in Toronto.
exactly, i know bob took the summer off because of terry resigning in brampton, they go back and have history. thanx for clearing that up chamoo.

RockStar

05-16-2006, 06:53 PM

LaxGoalie is trying to say that Cosmo was the goalie of the future for the Rock and that when Watson got too old (specifically this year), Cosmo would be able to step in and take the number one job from him..........

I know what he was trying to say.

He's wrong for two reasons.

1) The Rock were pretty terrible this year. Cosmo or no Cosmo, they weren't making it much deeper than the first round of the playoffs.

2) If Cosmo really was the answer to all the problems in T-O, his team should have done better than they have. They have finished below .500 each of the past two seasons. This while they have two of the top five defensemen in the league and several big names on attack.

gaels_laxer_33

05-16-2006, 07:22 PM

Man as bad of a seasont he rock had you cnt place the blame all on sanderson the players just werent producing how they used to they were missing something..also cant forget the cups hes won and all his accomplishments...

laxgoalieking

05-16-2006, 08:23 PM

RockStar

05-17-2006, 06:52 AM

acctualy i dont think he has one an nll cup, has he?
Sanderson's Rock won in 2005......Right after he "came in and totaly messed with a perfedt system." Geez, that was last year, where the hell were you?

History lesson:

2004: "perfect system" was 2-4 when Sanderson took over. Mixed results. He led them to 8 straight wins and a 10-6 regular season, but totally humiliated by Buffalo in the semi final.

2005: That damn fool Sanderson wrecked the perfect system. In doing so took the Rock all the way from being a 10-6 contender to a 12-4 season and a championship win.

Now we're through 2006 - The team was divided and terrible so the coach was sent packing. Sorry to see him go, understand why.