Video FaceOff How-To

[RIT37FO]

well its friday i dont have practice till 430 and i got out of class early
bordem struck so
:idea: why not make a video face off guide

Click pic to play video

first move

Plunger/clamp

the plunger is a great move for fast breaks once you get the move down
its a half clamp half lift up on the handle of the stick. by only doing a half clamp this will cut your clamping time down and lifting the handle will cause the side walls of the stick to pinch the ball. the ball dosnt need to be all the way in the stick just enough to pinch. the the move out a few time befor attempting it in a game because the first few times you try you will most likly clamp or not clamp enough and miss the ball in the pinch
this move can be done in a full clamp but its harder and you need to be quicker because the clamp will (you guessed it) take longer than the half clamp.
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the Clamp- its the clamp...um your just getting over the ball as fast and hard as you can...
but there are variations of the clamp. there is the clamp while throwing your left hand forward. by doing this it will help you get under the other guys stick faster.(no video yet ill do it tonight)
another way to clamp is the clamp to S fast break-(attempted on video but i messed it up ill redo it tonight) you clamp and begin to pull it through you legs but then make a s curve if u will to rake the ball around the opponents stick and push the ball infront of you.
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the jump- there are few ways to jump the regular way, the lazer jump(or so i call it) just to name a few

when jumping the regular way you need to be quick(then again when dont u need to be) but u need to knock/block you opponents stick out of they way (normaly a clamp) and from there you can pull the ball inback of you or S curve fast break.

the lazer jump- basicaly just a lazer but insted of pushing the ball forward your lifiting you stick up a little bit and you cover the ball with the face of the stick from there you can do what ever you want to get it out.

West Geny jump- friend from west geny showed me this one said its what they worked on there- when jumping shoot left arm forward and get the middel(inbetween hands)of the shaft over the ball then you knock the ball through your legs by pulling the stick back. (third jump in vid)
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The LAZER- cocking your left hand ready to twist the stick and keeping your right hand tight enought to keep your stick from twisting to early go down. then at the whistle relase right hand allowing the left hand to twist fill blast and push forward with the right hand at the same time. this will lie the stick flat on the ground if you opponent is jumping shound cause a fast break for you.
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Cheat Move "the Grab"- going down in moto grip at whistle use your right hand to grab the ball, either by slidding the stick to the right to get your hand there or by jumping a little bit. after the grab thow the ball through your legs. keep in mind if the ref sees this you will be called. normaly only works once or twice in the game because your rival will quickly notice this.
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KAMAKAZI - i cant explain just watch. just make sure to keep your arms tucked

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TWO FINGER- the two finger can really only be done with the "flip grip"
when your opponent clamps on you stick out two fingers as to catch his stick/mesh what ever. then lift and kick the ball out . BECAREFUL completly possible to break you fingers doing this and it is illegal if the ref sees u
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ill think of more later im preoccupied watching a movie right now forgive my spelling im a photo major not a english major :whyme:

anything else you guys can think of just ask ill get up a video ASAP

[PWlaxkyle5]

have you ever tried your KAMAKAZI in a game ?

[RIT37FO]

na i dont think id ever see the game feild again if i attemped it in a actual game

ill be trying it in summer leage tho
i perform it in practice now just to mess people up

[jrmelax16]

that was pretty cool. have you actually tried "the grab." does it actually work??

[RIT37FO]

the grab works well one or 2 times
after that the ref is normaly told that i am doing it and he watches

[jrmelax16]

so do you actually grab it and then throw it or do you just knock it with your hand??

[RIT37FO]

grab and throw the ball back or through the legs

[goalieskcickay]

Very nice, should get stickied.

[cool beans]

i never done face off before, but i might try this weekend

[BioPro29]

Are you strictly a fogo or do you stay on the field?

[BigKLaxer]

Very nice tutorial. One suggestion is to put the moves in an order that is easier to understand, like the clamp before the plunger and the lazer before the lazer jump. This will help out those who don't know the basic moves. BTW, I think that the kamakazie is more of a handstand then a roll.

[Big-Red]

I face off for my JV team, and am just a quick clamper which gets me fast breaks.

My question is why do you always throw backwards? are you trying to like bring it to your defensive side or?

And another question, what is the advantage to the motorcycle grip? Isn't it iimpossible to scoop+craddle like that?

thanks for all the help and great guide!

[the next 'one']

actually, the motorcycle grip is very helpful, and can easily be switched back to regular once the face off is won. Alex Smith was #1 in faceoffs last year, and he used the motorcycle grip. after he achieved this, half the other FO middies on his team switched to the motorcylce grip and raised their win percentage dramatically. Also, the FO middie for DU is number 3 in D1 this year and does the motorcycle grip

nice job, i was waiting for someone to make one of these, and finally it's here. i have always wanted to see that kamikaze, and might even try it in practice sometime, my coach is really against tricky stuff though. but i like how you did FO's in both grips

[RIT37FO]

i dont always do moto and i dont always put it through my legs actualy normaly i pop it forward with the plunger or out to my wing man

as for scooping and cradleing i have yet to have a problem with the moto grip

anyone think of anything else i should put up?

[RIT37FO]

Are you strictly a fogo or do you stay on the field?


i come off the feild once i get on offence but i stay on D

[scruffy221]

WHERE'S THE JAM!?

It's only the best move ever. It'll beat anything b/c you go for the opponent's STICK not the ball. From there you can kick it out.

[RIT37FO]

the jam might be a little hard to show with only one guy but ill take a stab at it

[Big-Red]

ok so so far you said its easy to use the moto grip, which I see, but what is the advantage of it?

I can actually place my ahnds to get a quicker start with the normal grip, and then I dont have to switch.

Also, your guide taught me how to do the plunger, which is alot better than winning the clamp and throwing it to a wingman or myself.

[RIT37FO]

well for me i use the moto grip because i can use more power that way as opposed to the other grip

but what ever works for you do it

[smidjen92]

Nice use of videos. OUT COLD IS THE BEST MOVIE EVER!!! (listen in the background)

[illlite]

do you know the claw and/or the crab?
b/c they're good to know for anyone who takes faceoffs in games
btw, the claw would be hard to show people with just one person though

[RIT37FO]

the claw? does it have any other names or can u explain it to me


and out cold rules

[PCHSlax5]

nice videos, those are really nice and helpful. Also i saw that you guys got a bid into the NCAA tournament, and i will be at the final four so hopefully if you guys make it i will be able to get out there to see you (if you make it you play on saturday right). Good luck man, and once again nice videos.

[RIT37FO]

thanks but sadly we fell to weslyan yesterday 8-11
there is always next year

[nicklax123]

is the Brine PULSE a good face-off head?

[RIT37FO]

most likly not. the floating side wall thing might get messed up. however ive never seen one used

if u want a brine head to face off with the best one ive seen is the e3 :grin:

[Torque42]

i need help with the kamakazi, whenever i do it the ball doesnt come with me

[RIT37FO]

1. how pinched is your stick
2. are you bringing your arms in to your chest when you do ?

[Chaminademid]

RIT sorry im gonna kinda use you as a question/answer guy but what kind of head do you use, and what do you think about the razer/razer pro and answer as faceoff heads?

[RIT37FO]

haha no problem i use a STX deuce from what i am told they are discontinued so a got like 6 of them because i break them enough. but the other day i was told by a owner of lax unlimited they will be made again just next year

ive tried several heads including the razor. im not a ran of the razor but the razor pro( i own one) seems like it would work. its flexable so its works great on the plunger but stiff enough for a good hard clamp. as for the answer, i havnt seen anyone use it but i saw one at dicks sporting goods for 50$ and was very tempted to pick it up. that to is also stiff but flexes enough for the plunger. i will prob grab it befor i go home in the next two weeks i think it might be a solid head but i no back up to it

[Chaminademid]

Alright thanks, I might look into the deuce cause I've broken quite a few razer pro's and they're kind of expensive to replace.

[RIT37FO]

thats what the 1year replacement thing is for

[Chaminademid]

The problem with that is that when I break it in season I have to send it off and go some odd weeks without a head...so it still works but then I have to rotate through backups etc...

[RIT37FO]

oh u dont have a local lax shop around u?
if not bummer its just a drive for me to swap stuff but i hear where your comming from.

[Chaminademid]

We have one shop and they're like 20-30 bucks over internet prices so I just buy from there. Anyways thanks for the videos, might have to try the kamikaze in summer league this year.

[RIT37FO]

eh sometimes the 20 bucks is worth the same day swap but to each his own

[Chaminademid]

I guess it would be now that i think of it...after my hs season is over....
anyways do you have a preference for stringing, mesh/traditional/diamond whatever?

[RIT37FO]

yea im a huge fan of 6 dimond but as of late Pita is what ive been useing how ever i switch back and forth everyday i cant ever make up my mind

[Torque42]

im using a stock torque, i am prety sure thats the problem

[RIT37FO]

never seen one of them used or ever even seen one in person so i cant offer anything about it. but ive never been a fan of gait heads (wizard excluded and not for faceoffs"


edit- sorry this for the kamakazi question

[RIT37FO]

anyone got anymore moves

[Chaminademid]

anyone got anymore moves

2 finger, idk if you did the push or not

[Mad-Max]

AHH, the kamikaze. I remember we had a kid get a 2 min USC for doing that. The thing was the ref was terrible, and the kid had gotten like 5 warnings to not do it anymore. But he didn't listen and served a penalty. BUt after all it was just rec. He actually won a few of the face offs because or face off guy was scarced to get body slammed.

But on the other hand its really well done, thanks for your time, came out really nice.

[stinisonfire]

I would also like to see the two finger move

[RIT37FO]

ill get the 2 finger up tonight

[RIT37FO]

two finger added

[nylax65]

I have a deuce as well, but when i clamp more times than not the ball gets stuck because the mesh squeezes the ball too much and I have to flick my stick to get it out. Would this be illegal, and is there a way to fix this without changing my pocket. I have a high pocket by the way.

[Su Lacrosse55]

wow, you my friend are my hero. Im a face off guy and I have been looking for video tutorials on some new moves. Thank you. If you could get one of the jam that would be great. Thanks again.

[RIT37FO]

what jam are u looking for. like just jumping into the guys wrists or just jam into the ball

also witth the deuce if u can get it out with one flick it normaly wont get called. that or your head is to pinched. you have a high pocket? then just tighen the sidewalls reall tight

[penguinwobbler]

those are nice man, all really informative, maybe ill try some of my new techniques out in my next game, hmmmmmm thaughts, maybe the kamakaze, not

[Chaminademid]

You dont have anything on just a power push (idk what you call it I just call it the push), I win about 95% on that move....

[LoveableME]

Thanks to you I successfully pulled the armadillo (kamakazi) in a scrimmage today. One question though. Its obvious you've got your hands on the plastic, is that just because they don't enforce it or just because it you aren't doing a formal faceoff or what?

[RIT37FO]

for some reason i get away with it if the plastic has tape on it.

as for the punch ill get that up asap

[nylax65]

I was practicing face offs today with a kid on my team and I tried the half clamp and tried to pull it up, but everytime i got it in my stick and went to pull it up the kid would jsut hit my stick and the ball would end up rolling behind and away from me. It seemed as if i didn't have enough time to actually pull my stick up with out him hitting it and popping the ball lose.

If you could explain how to do this in a game situation or show a video of you doing it against someone i would really appreciate it thanks.

[CnSLax3]

Please sticky

[RIT37FO]

in a game situation the plunger (the move im pretty sure your asking about) you need to be quick. also the ball wont stay in your stick it should just pop out infront of you.
in order to do this the clamp,lift and "Push" out must all be one motion
practice makes perfect :D
anything else just let me know

[RIT37FO]

You dont have anything on just a power push (idk what you call it I just call it the push), I win about 95% on that move....


if you could PM me with exactly what you are doing i know several different "pushes" but im not entirely sure what one ur looking for

[CnSLax3]

Best face-off tut and its not even stickied

[Wubbie]

Best face-off tut and its not even stickied


Quoted for emphasis... Great job.

[LongIslandLax]

Sticky this.

[k9fish]

lol, we had a lead in one of our last games and i did the kamekazi, and won it. it was pretty funny, the other guy stayed on his hands and knees kinda and i landed right on my feet and got the ball back and hit post. it was hilarious

[CnSLax3]

I'm never letting this thread die.

[EaglesLax22]

those are sweet but i think u missed a really good one what i have done ( not in a game just in a scrimmage so i was kinda messin around ) was when the ref blows the whistle take ur hand off the stick the hand near the back of the stick then swing through the ball with the shaft of ur stick i got it too work somehow and i dont even faceoff usually

[Chaminademid]

those are sweet but i think u missed a really good one what i have done ( not in a game just in a scrimmage so i was kinda messin around ) was when the ref blows the whistle take ur hand off the stick the hand near the back of the stick then swing through the ball with the shaft of ur stick i got it too work somehow and i dont even faceoff usually

Yeah im pretty sure that would never work unless you were facing off against a sloth or something

[fogolax03]

nice job on the video! i actually run my own face off camp in the summer! interested in coaching? i could show u a few more moves if u are interested? ive been facing off for 15 years with the moto grip. it has been around for a long time. it is stronger and quicker. any coach that suggests that this the wrong way to face off only needs to watch the mll these days to see how many of the worlds best are now converting!
if u are interested in the camp check me out at fogolax.com

[RIT37FO]

yes i am interested in coaching pm me with the details about the other moves
thanks

---jerry

[VLax9Finisher]

Hey man nice job with these.

Maybe try and do a video of the jam, and the forward clamp (for fast breaks).

I dunno, how about counters? Such as the defensive laser (when you put your head flat under the opponents shaft when he clamps.

Just giving ideas, good job.

[orangeman17]

S.s.s.s.Sticky!

[RIT37FO]

that be swelll

[lancerlax3]

great job on the vids. i was just wondering were you recruited to rit as a f/o mid, or as an all around mid?

[RIT37FO]

all around mid just happend to find a love for facing off there

[CnSLax3]

i dont get how a lazer counters a clamp doesn't it take longer to flip ur face of ur stick over the ball rather than just clamping straight down?

[RIT37FO]

depends if your faster with your clamp then yes
but if you can do the lazer jump and get your stick under his you can just lift up and kick it out

[coqlax02]

have you ever tried your KAMAKAZI in a game ?
yea a kid on my team used to do it a decent amount it actually worked too

[reefmiddie26]

RIT sorry im gonna kinda use you as a question/answer guy but what kind of head do you use, and what do you think about the razer/razer pro and answer as faceoff heads?

just so u know i wouldnt recommend facing with an answer. I F/O with a Nitrous but i got me and answer and ive tried it the head is way too pinched and it will warp way too easily. if u do u use it careful not to get the ball trapped between the sidewalls.




Awesome tut. thanks alot RIT37FO

[SuperSully]

THIS WAS A GREAT IDEA... and i noticed your watching the movie Out Cold which is amazing... overall a great thread... especially for a face off middie such as myself

[Workinboy]

just so u know i wouldnt recommend facing with an answer. I F/O with a Nitrous but i got me and answer and ive tried it the head is way too pinched and it will warp way too easily. if u do u use it careful not to get the ball trapped between the sidewalls.

Yeah - an answer warps very easily - i faced with a Razor Pro last season and started using an Answer for pre-season this year to see how it works.. Its an excellent face off head for the first month or so, until it warps and begins to bend in like a pretzel.. I have american mesh on mine and when i push in the mesh to face, I have to push the mesh out myself because the ball falls out if i try to scoop. It would make a great attack stick now, though.

Other than that, im looking for a new face-off head.. I've gathered suggestions and i've been told the: Nitrous, Proton Power, Razor//Razor Pro, Evo//Evo Pro, Revo//Revo Pro - and i've been looking at reviews and Proton Power seems to be the best choice. What are your guys' input? What do you think is the best head for Faces as far as a FOGO middie or an overal faceoff middie?

Thanks.

btw - awesome tutorial RIT - helped a lot.

[RIT37FO]

no sticky yet?

[RIT37FO]

workinboy sorry i didnt see ur post

may i recomend a e3 or stx deuce(they break tho) also i was partial to pinched protons(not PP's) for there stiffness

at the moment im having a problem finding anything better than a nice stiff e3 to face off with

[GlaxR]

Yeah im pretty sure that would never work unless you were facing off against a sloth or something


lmao :grin:

[njlaxpunk10]

love the kamakazi. Best move ever. Only thing i like to do differently is to toss the ball out in front of me, so after you steamroll the kid in front of you you can scoop the ball for a fastbreak. But hey, excellent job with the vids, hope to see it stickied soon.

[speedshooter]

i dont know if this is a move others use but tell me what u think.

i use a psyco moto grip and punch foward with both hands once i get tied up with their stick i rip my right hand and sometimes hit my calf with the but of my stick.

also what is the juggarnat?does anyone know that? if so please tell