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PearlJam9
05-22-2006, 07:16 AM
first off im not in any way trying to rip into Dan Hardy (Frosh from Cuse) but dose any one else think that he should not be wearing #22? yes he is a great player but in my oppinion due to the history of the number Gary Gait, Charlie Locwood, And all three Powels it should just be retired or at least saved for a player who can better live up to the legend.

WHEELAX2
05-22-2006, 08:13 AM
at this time, I do not think he should be wearing 22

hulllaxplayer
05-22-2006, 08:54 AM
you never know...he might get exremely good soon.

WHEELAX2
05-22-2006, 09:15 AM
you never know...he might get exremely good soon.


yes, but until that time, he doesn't deserve the number..

stegmakk
05-22-2006, 09:26 AM
i am undecided...I see WHEELAX's point and I agree to a point...
on the other hand...how will you know when a player is "good enough" to wear the 22?
besides...legends and traditions seem to be falling by the waist side...
bonds (damn juicer) tying the babe...
the curse of the red sox lifted...

roycegracie47
05-22-2006, 11:48 AM
While I agree that #22 has to be earned, and that specifically this year Hardy hasn't showed that oomph we've been conditioned to expect from the wearer of the number, you have to at least consider there is something Desko sees in him that earned him the jersey. He's got time to develop or maybe someone else'll come in or step up and take over.

soclax15
05-22-2006, 12:20 PM
I think he has every right to wear that number. It's a number on a back of a jersey. I understand that it was worn by some of the greatest to play the game, but either way, it's just a number. Should Princeton players have to pass a screening to wear 16? I dunno, just my 2 cents.

WHEELAX2
05-22-2006, 12:21 PM
I think he has every right to wear that number. It's a number on a back of a jersey. I understand that it was worn by some of the greatest to play the game, but either way, it's just a number. Should Princeton players have to pass a screening to wear 16? I dunno, just my 2 cents.


it's not the number.. it's what it symbolizes..

If you saw a player wearing # 1, what would your first impression of that player be?

WHEELAX2
05-22-2006, 12:21 PM
I think he has every right to wear that number. It's a number on a back of a jersey. I understand that it was worn by some of the greatest to play the game, but either way, it's just a number. Should Princeton players have to pass a screening to wear 16? I dunno, just my 2 cents.


it's not the number.. it's what it symbolizes..

If you saw a player wearing # 1, what would your first impression of that player be? (before you saw him/her play)

cbhslacrossemid
05-22-2006, 12:25 PM
it's not the number.. it's what it symbolizes..

If you saw a player wearing # 1, what would your first impression of that player be? (before you saw him/her play)

Nice double post,

back on topic. I believe Hardy is a very good lacrosse player, I've heard he's overrated but I dont think so. Now as to the number, I think they gave it away too soon. I dont think a player who cant make all american as a freshman should get the 22. Of course its hard to tell with a high school senior coming in so thats why they should have waited for that phemonal player.. I have also heard that Hardy asked for the 22, any thoughts?

Just another thought, I think 22 should be reserved for an attackman not a midfielder.

nhlax02
05-22-2006, 12:26 PM
They just gave it to him beacause they thought he would be a standout out of the new recruits at SU

timbosky
05-22-2006, 12:28 PM
The obvious may just be coincidence, but someone needs to wear #22 every year, or else SU doesn't make the semi-finals. Is it just that simple?

WHEELAX2
05-22-2006, 12:29 PM
Nice double post,

back on topic. I believe Hardy is a very good lacrosse player, I've heard he's overrated but I dont think so. Now as to the number, I think they gave it away too soon. I dont think a player who cant make all american as a freshman should get the 22. Of course its hard to tell with a high school senior coming in so thats why they should have waited for that phemonal player.. I have also heard that Hardy asked for the 22, any thoughts?

Just another thought, I think 22 should be reserved for an attackman not a midfielder.


are you kidding me with the immature double post comment?? It wasn't intentional.. if you want to be a mod so bad, just ask..

if you'll remember, Mike Powell played a bit as a middie..

shiftylax
05-22-2006, 12:40 PM
it's not the number.. it's what it symbolizes..

If you saw a player wearing # 1, what would your first impression of that player be? (before you saw him/her play)

I don't let my players wear #1 for obvious reasons. I don't think NCAA or NFL receivers or anyone else in all of athletics should wear #1 either.

But really, how long do you wait to give 22 to another player? What player would take it? In many ways it is just a number, but when a legacy becomes synonymous with a number...you get threads like this.

WHEELAX2
05-22-2006, 12:42 PM
I don't let my players wear #1 for obvious reasons. I don't think NCAA or NFL receivers or anyone else in all of athletics should wear #1 either.

But really, how long do you wait to give 22 to another player? What player would take it? In many ways it is just a number, but when a legacy becomes synonymous with a number...you get threads like this.


I would take wearing #22 in lacrosse the same as wearing #1 in any other sport..

to me, it means "I'm the best"

shiftylax
05-22-2006, 12:55 PM
I would disagree with you there.

I think the difference in my thought process is "This guy wears #1, even if he's good I want to smash his face in for being arrogant."

Whereas someone wearing #22 would make me think "He'd better not suck, but if he does I will laugh in his face."

Plus, what do you do when someone wears 22 and plays D or goalie? Is it the same reaction? I would argue that its a little different. I see what you're saying, but its more like seeing someone on a basketball team wearing 23 - you know why he's wearing it, but so does he. No one wears a number with history by accident - even if it is just a number at the end of the day.

defoalie
05-22-2006, 01:00 PM
in hardy's defense he did have three points in the win over Hopkins on saturday. those of course mattered, take em away and 'cuse loses. granted i would have loved to see that happen considering i'm a huge hopkins fan. But if your going off stats, give it to Bucktooth, he's leading the team with Goals and total points. but i do think at least someone should wear it, keep the legacy on the field regardless of who you cheer for or who your team is, you can't not like watching the powells or gaits play the game and those 5 or 6 guys who wore that number are helping spread this game across the country, something all of us want to see

Isles19
05-22-2006, 01:00 PM
In HS we had a memorial jersey award. The number of a lax player that passed away shortly after leaving HS in the 80's. Every year since then the varsity players voted to see who would wear the number. It usually didn't go to the teams star but rather to either LSM/ d-pole considering that is what he played in HS. Maybe Cuse should do something along those lines, have the players vote to see who wears #22.

stegmakk
05-22-2006, 01:28 PM
In HS we had a memorial jersey award. The number of a lax player that passed away shortly after leaving HS in the 80's. Every year since then the varsity players voted to see who would wear the number. It usually didn't go to the teams star but rather to either LSM/ d-pole considering that is what he played in HS. Maybe Cuse should do something along those lines, have the players vote to see who wears #22.
interesting thought and at first i was going to agree...maybe a senior gets it every year...
but then i thought about it more...it would get to be annoying every year someone new wearing the 22...
and upon further thinking i say...Let the coach alone decide who wears it...its his team, his team's legacy and tradition...

soclax15
05-22-2006, 01:35 PM
it's not the number.. it's what it symbolizes..

If you saw a player wearing # 1, what would your first impression of that player be? (before you saw him/her play)

In all honesty it wouldn't mean anything to me. I don't think wearing a certain number means all that much, even if it is 22 on a Syracuse uniform. I completely understand what it symbolizes at 'Cuse, but I look at it this way: When Casey Powell came, did anybody have any idea that he'd live up to the 22 legacy that Gait created? Of course not, but the number became his, and later his brother's. I didn't hear much of an outcry when Mike Levielle took 19 last year, despite the fact that Paul Gait was also a legendary SU player. Again, this is just my opinion on the matter. I completely understand the other side of the argument, it's just not that big a deal to me.

Funny thing is, I actually wear number 22. My first season of youth lacrosse I wanted to wear 25, which I had worn through my youth soccer years. The closest they had available was 22, so I took it. I had just realized what lacrosse was, much less who Gary Gait or Casey Powell were. 22 stuck with me through college. I took a year off my sophmore season, and when I returned the next year some freshman had taken it. What number did I take when I returned? #1. My other options were numbers in the 30's, so I chose 1. If my argument doesn't sound ridiculous now, I don't know what does.

Isles19
05-22-2006, 01:42 PM
I get your point. I guess its a little different in High School we were changing numbers all the time. In my 4 years there i had 3 different numbers. Seniors had first choice then it went down from there.

shiftylax
05-22-2006, 01:46 PM
In all honesty it wouldn't mean anything to me. I don't think wearing a certain number means all that much, even if it is 22 on a Syracuse uniform. I completely understand what it symbolizes at 'Cuse, but I look at it this way: When Casey Powell came, did anybody have any idea that he'd live up to the 22 legacy that Gait created? Of course not, but the number became his, and later his brother's. I didn't hear much of an outcry when Mike Levielle took 19 last year, despite the fact that Paul Gait was also a legendary SU player. Again, this is just my opinion on the matter. I completely understand the other side of the argument, it's just not that big a deal to me.

Funny thing is, I actually wear number 22. My first season of youth lacrosse I wanted to wear 25, which I had worn through my youth soccer years. The closest they had available was 22, so I took it. I had just realized what lacrosse was, much less who Gary Gait or Casey Powell were. 22 stuck with me through college. I took a year off my sophmore season, and when I returned the next year some freshman had taken it. What number did I take when I returned? #1. My other options were numbers in the 30's, so I chose 1. If my argument doesn't sound rediculous now, I don't know what does.

Considering Casey powell owns the record for most points scored in THE HISTORY of high school lacrosse, I'd say they had an inkling as to what he could do.

But that's just me, driving the CP bandwagon for the past 10 years.

cbhslacrossemid
05-22-2006, 01:53 PM
are you kidding me with the immature double post comment?? It wasn't intentional.. if you want to be a mod so bad, just ask..

if you'll remember, Mike Powell played a bit as a middie..

sry for the back seat modding but no, I do not want to be a mod. Not my cup of tea. But you can but 2 quotes in one post to avoid double posting.

cbhslacrossemid
05-22-2006, 01:54 PM
delete please

WHEELAX2
05-22-2006, 01:54 PM
sry for the back seat modding but no, I do not want to be a mod. Not my cup of tea. But you can but 2 quotes in one post to avoid double posting.


I know how it works.. it had nothing to do with wanting two quotes.. I simply went back in my browser and edited instead of editing my original post .. simple mistake

soclax15
05-22-2006, 01:59 PM
Considering Casey powell owns the record for most points scored in THE HISTORY of high school lacrosse, I'd say they had an inkling as to what he could do.

But that's just me, driving the CP bandwagon for the past 10 years.

Hahaha, point taken. I was unaware of that little tidbit. Does the record still stand, and where is it documented? I'm not questioning your legitimacy, I'm just curious.

WHEELAX2
05-22-2006, 02:02 PM
and another note or two::

ok.. when casey, ryan, and michael entered SU, they were heavily taughted and highly recruited players.. and record settors on the high school level

they had outstanding numbers in high school and carried their success with them to SU..

Casey powell was named to the 2nd team all america squad and scored 68 points as a freshman.. his next year, he was a middie.. he also left the school with the all time scoring record, later to be broken by both brothers..

Mike powell was the only freshman in SU history to be named to the first team all america squad and scored a record 70 points as a freshman.. 30 goals and 40 assists

when you only score 19 lousy points as a freshman, how do you expect to follow in those footsteps??

and it might not seem like a big deal to you, but wearing #22 is a huge deal in lacrosse.. especially consisering that this kid is the first non powell to wear the number in 10 years


I guess if you want to say "it's just a number" Dan is the guy to bring it back to just that: a number.. he certainly isn't dazzling audiences with his performance.. so for now, it's just a number..

soclax15
05-22-2006, 02:11 PM
and it might not seem like a big deal to you, but wearing #22 is a huge deal in lacrosse.. especially consisering that this kid is the first non powell to wear the number in 10 years


I guess if you want to say "it's just a number" Dan is the guy to bring it back to just that: a number.. he certainly isn't dazzling audiences with his performance.. so for now, it's just a number..

In all of sports, if an organization wants to permanently recognize the achievements of a player, they retire their jersey number. It's done in college and in the pros. If Coach Desko and Syracuse University feels the need to recognize the number, then hoist four #22 jerseys from the top of the Carrier Dome with the names Gait, Powell, Powell, and Powell. Other than that, who's to say who wears what number for the Orange, even if it is double-deuce? That's the way I see it.

WHEELAX2
05-22-2006, 02:14 PM
In all of sports, if an organization wants to permanently recognize the achievements of a player, they retire their jersey number. It's done in college and in the pros. If Coach Desko and Syracuse University feels the need to recognize the number, then hoist four #22 jerseys from the top of the Carrier Dome with the names Gait, Powell, Powell, and Powell. Other than that, who's to say who wears what number for the Orange, even if it is double-deuce? That's the way I see it.


yeah.. they probably should have..

shiftylax
05-22-2006, 02:23 PM
Hahaha, point taken. I was unaware of that little tidbit. Does the record still stand, and where is it documented? I'm not questioning your legitimacy, I'm just curious.

I was reminded of this fact because a kid in MA [Duxbury], Quinzani, or Quizani, is on pace to break the record. Of course when your coach leaves you in for 4 quarters and lets you rack up 15 points against inferior competition, I'd say the record breaking is a bit suspect. But hey, that's just me.

WHEELAX2
05-22-2006, 02:27 PM
I was reminded of this fact because a kid in MA [Duxbury], Quinzani, or Quizani, is on pace to break the record. Of course when your coach leaves you in for 4 quarters and lets you rack up 15 points against inferior competition, I'd say the record breaking is a bit suspect. But hey, that's just me.


yeah.. but you know the kind of competition the Powells had up in here in NY..

defoalie
05-22-2006, 02:41 PM
[QUOTE=WHEELAX2]

when you only score 19 lousy points as a freshman, how do you expect to follow in those footsteps??

QUOTE]

http://www.e-lacrosse.com/kyle2.html

"my freshmen year of college was the most embarrassing year of my life. As a, "blue chip," recruit, I scored 9 goals and had 4 assist"

when i saw wheelax's post i remembered this article i read by KYLE HARRISON, one of the greatest face-off all around midfielders Hopkins has ever seen in my opinion, and he only had 13 points as a freshman give hardy time he's just a kid and some people don't make this transistion as well as others, i'm sure desko knows what he's doing, he did lead them to two national championships in his 5 yrs as coach. give the guy a couple years, i think he's full aware of the jersey on his shoulders and what he has to live up to. and check that article out it's a good one

WHEELAX2
05-22-2006, 02:42 PM
[QUOTE=WHEELAX2]

when you only score 19 lousy points as a freshman, how do you expect to follow in those footsteps??

QUOTE]

http://www.e-lacrosse.com/kyle2.html

"my freshmen year of college was the most embarrassing year of my life. As a, "blue chip," recruit, I scored 9 goals and had 4 assist"

when i saw wheelax's post i remembered this article i read by KYLE HARRISON, one of the greatest face-off all around midfielders Hopkins has ever seen in my opinion, and he only had 13 points as a freshman give hardy time he's just a kid and some people don't make this transistion as well as others, i'm sure desko knows what he's doing, he did lead them to two national championships in his 5 yrs as coach. give the guy a couple years, i think he's full aware of the jersey on his shoulders and what he has to live up to. and check that article out it's a good one


yes, but what were his subsequent point totals? not the blistering point totals of famous 22s

cbhslacrossemid
05-22-2006, 02:53 PM
[QUOTE=defoalie]


yes, but what were his subsequent point totals? not the blistering point totals of famous 22s


Wheelax is right the Gait and the Powells absolutly dominated before college. So might say Hardy did too but he did nothing compared to that of former 22 bearing players at Cuse

shiftylax
05-22-2006, 03:00 PM
yeah.. but you know the kind of competition the Powells had up in here in NY..

I can guarantee you that it was better than the competition in MA right now...I would know, I have to recruit these kids.

defoalie
05-22-2006, 04:01 PM
so ur saying kyle harrison can't hang with the powells i beg to differ

ColtsLax
05-22-2006, 04:54 PM
not to kill the point, but when i see a kid wearing #1, i usually think he the smallest kid, because jerseys, if sized, go from the smallest to largest, which is why the D men usually have numbers like 30, 40 and the smaller guys have 10-20. Look at the NFL. Lineman are 60-70-80. Big guys, more room on their back for a big number.

regulate34
05-22-2006, 05:04 PM
personaly i think that #22 should be earnd
but i am not looking to ove take a famous #
i am gonna make my own

mnlax17
05-22-2006, 05:10 PM
I would take wearing #22 in lacrosse the same as wearing #1 in any other sport..

to me, it means "I'm the best"

Yeah true, but if you were a great player wouldn't you want a different number then 22 or 1. Just to start like a new legacy instead of following in someone elses foot steps

Orange
05-22-2006, 06:22 PM
not to kill the point, but when i see a kid wearing #1, i usually think he the smallest kid, because jerseys, if sized, go from the smallest to largest, which is why the D men usually have numbers like 30, 40 and the smaller guys have 10-20. Look at the NFL. Lineman are 60-70-80. Big guys, more room on their back for a big number.
All pro athletes have uniforms that fit them perfectly... Football numbers/positions are taken for a reason, not because of size.

PearlJam9
05-22-2006, 08:07 PM
maby hardy needs time to get better and im not saying that its impossible for him to ever get to the level of the gaits lockwood and powels but untill then i dont think he should wear 22 if next year he is more experienced and can better fill the shoes than i would say its ok to wear 22 but untill then lets take it easy

i live 4 lax
05-22-2006, 08:30 PM
sry for the back seat modding but no, I do not want to be a mod. Not my cup of tea. But you can but 2 quotes in one post to avoid double posting.
he didnt mean to... can u read?

laxpro
05-22-2006, 08:32 PM
Wheel, I don't considered 19 goals as a fresh lousy by any means. I mean it is no 30 goals like MP, but 19 goals is 19 goals, and pretty damn impressive if I do say so.

On the other hand, SU gave their top 2 recruits the two debatable numbers that we are discussing. #22 obviously went to Hardy, and #1 went to Perritt. By all means Perritt has lived up to his expectations (especially in the Cornell game).

And as I was checking out the SU website, I saw this omg (http://www.suathletics.com/index.asp?path=mlacrosse&tab=mens) That is completely ridiculous. 16 goals, combined by Paul and Gary in 1 game ('Cuse won 23-5). Yeah, now I take back the impressive part on Dan Hardy.

NF Lax23----<o)
05-22-2006, 08:38 PM
Yes, but if they did that it would the ultimate slap in the face to Dan Hardy, for obvious reasons.

NF Lax23----<o)
05-22-2006, 08:42 PM
Wheel, I don't considered 19 goals as a fresh lousy by any means. I mean it is no 30 goals like MP, but 19 goals is 19 goals, and pretty damn impressive if I do say so.

On the other hand, SU gave their top 2 recruits the two debatable numbers that we are discussing. #22 obviously went to Hardy, and #1 went to Perritt. By all means Perritt has lived up to his expectations (especially in the Cornell game).

And as I was checking out the SU website, I saw this omg (http://www.suathletics.com/index.asp?path=mlacrosse&tab=mens) That is completely ridiculous. 16 goals, combined by Paul and Gary in 1 game ('Cuse won 23-5). Yeah, now I take back the impressive part on Dan Hardy.


I think 19 goals is impressive also. If anyone here doesn't, you go out and score 19 goals against D1 goalies... yeah... ok.

crazydrew86
05-22-2006, 08:45 PM
if i was hardy i wouldnt want to wear the #22 i would be worried about screwing up the legacy

titanVision
05-22-2006, 08:48 PM
Rip it off him PERIOD

the next 'one'
05-22-2006, 08:50 PM
i was surpirsed to see him wearing the number 22. the announcers were talking about it in the Syracuse vs. Hopkins game and they said they gave it to him right when he came in as a freshmen. as a true idolizer of the three powells, i have some sort of regret towards SU for letting another player wear this number. I honestly think they should just retire the number and hang up a flag somewhere with the number 22 and all the great players names under it who wore this, i.e. all the people you said at the beginning of this thread.

Levin
05-22-2006, 09:05 PM
I think the whole '22 is a sacred number!' is kind of stupid. Yes, the Powells and Gait wore it, and they set records. But when they took the number off, it really has no meaning UNLESS the jersey has their name on it, or like some of you have said, they retire it. But as long as its in circulation, and there for somebody to wear, the number really gets a new start with each player it passes on to.

MeRattack
05-22-2006, 09:23 PM
i think he just stuck w/ his high school # but idk, hes not a bad player in any way and he was still an all-american, just becasue he doenst break records like mikey powell doesnt mean he cant wear #22, there is alot expected from wearing that # but its not every year that a powell or gait comes along and there are still many years till the powell brother plays college lacrosse, if he even plays lacrosse then

Ghslongpole14
05-22-2006, 09:41 PM
not to kill the point, but when i see a kid wearing #1, i usually think he the smallest kid, because jerseys, if sized, go from the smallest to largest, which is why the D men usually have numbers like 30, 40 and the smaller guys have 10-20. Look at the NFL. Lineman are 60-70-80. Big guys, more room on their back for a big number.

Actually, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that numbers 1-20 are by league rule only allotted to QBs and kickers...

Anyway, I think it was a big move for him to come in a take #22. He sure as hell didn't meet the expectations of him that I had for taking that number.

And whoever said that its just a number, you just don't get the point.

And yes, whenever I come across an attackman that wears 22, I automatically assume that he is arrogant and thinks he is the man, trying to follow in the Powells' and Gait footsteps. Its different for a defender or keeper, IMO.

smokey
05-22-2006, 09:54 PM
he wears 22 becasue one of his relatives who used to play for cuse did. states so on the website. end of discussion.

cbhslacrossemid
05-22-2006, 10:02 PM
he wears 22 becasue one of his relatives who used to play for cuse did. states so on the website. end of discussion.

And thus, as I stated before, he asked for the number.

By the way, Gary Gait said he'd like to see the number passed on not retired. I know Ive written against Hardy having the number but Gait is the authority on the matter

Jephman
05-22-2006, 10:16 PM
i am undecided...I see WHEELAX's point and I agree to a point...
on the other hand...how will you know when a player is "good enough" to wear the 22?
besides...legends and traditions seem to be falling by the waist side...
bonds (damn juicer) tying the babe...
the curse of the red sox lifted...

OMG! I hate that! Larry King said that Babe Ruth drank when he wasn't supposed to, and you don't see any astericks by his name, but does beer help hit home runs? NO! Does steroids/enhancers? YES!

Back to the topic...

I really think that number should be retired and not be able to be used, but on the other hand, it's just a number.

Jephman
05-22-2006, 10:24 PM
Nice double post,

back on topic. I believe Hardy is a very good lacrosse player, I've heard he's overrated but I dont think so. Now as to the number, I think they gave it away too soon. I dont think a player who cant make all american as a freshman should get the 22. Of course its hard to tell with a high school senior coming in so thats why they should have waited for that phemonal player.. I have also heard that Hardy asked for the 22, any thoughts?

Just another thought, I think 22 should be reserved for an attackman not a midfielder.

We'll he might be, but if he screws up while wearing 22, he is gonna be screwed! A lot of pressure riding on him. There is a great amount of pressure. Heck! We made a thread about him picking the number. We wouldn't have if he wore any other number.

NYlaxLI
05-22-2006, 10:50 PM
Don't forget hes playing midfield and hes originally an attackman. Hes only 1 goal behin peritt who apparently lived up to everyones expectations. Cut the kid some slack, he put up 3 pts against Hopkins thats not exactly a failure in my eyes.

defoalie
05-22-2006, 11:48 PM
Don't forget hes playing midfield and hes originally an attackman. Hes only 1 goal behin peritt who apparently lived up to everyones expectations. Cut the kid some slack, he put up 3 pts against Hopkins thats not exactly a failure in my eyes.


yea and like i said earlier, take those away and 'cuse loses, plus that was a playoff game, he's a freshman and he came up big in a big game

WHEELAX2
05-23-2006, 06:32 AM
Wheel, I don't considered 19 goals as a fresh lousy by any means. I mean it is no 30 goals like MP, but 19 goals is 19 goals, and pretty damn impressive if I do say so.

On the other hand, SU gave their top 2 recruits the two debatable numbers that we are discussing. #22 obviously went to Hardy, and #1 went to Perritt. By all means Perritt has lived up to his expectations (especially in the Cornell game).

And as I was checking out the SU website, I saw this omg (http://www.suathletics.com/index.asp?path=mlacrosse&tab=mens) That is completely ridiculous. 16 goals, combined by Paul and Gary in 1 game ('Cuse won 23-5). Yeah, now I take back the impressive part on Dan Hardy.


19 points not goals... and 19 points doesn't compare to 70 points

WHEELAX2
05-23-2006, 06:34 AM
I think the whole '22 is a sacred number!' is kind of stupid. Yes, the Powells and Gait wore it, and they set records. But when they took the number off, it really has no meaning UNLESS the jersey has their name on it, or like some of you have said, they retire it. But as long as its in circulation, and there for somebody to wear, the number really gets a new start with each player it passes on to.


here in upstate NY '22 is sacred

WHEELAX2
05-23-2006, 06:35 AM
Don't forget hes playing midfield and hes originally an attackman. Hes only 1 goal behin peritt who apparently lived up to everyones expectations. Cut the kid some slack, he put up 3 pts against Hopkins thats not exactly a failure in my eyes.


yeah, and mike and casey played midfield..

NYlaxLI
05-23-2006, 07:08 AM
You have the right to your own opinion Wheelax2 and I don't think I have any chance in changing it lol. Your right that 22 symbolizes alot and the kid really hasn't blown my mind with his ability. Desko was under alot of pressure after last years dissappointing season and probably felt like he needed to give it out. How long do you wait before you pass it on? I don't think he should have taken 22 because otherwise we might be actually talking about what a great player he is and not bashing him.

defoalie
05-23-2006, 10:19 AM
I don't think he should have taken 22 because otherwise we might be actually talking about what a great player he is and not bashing him.


AMEN!! to that

WHEELAX2
05-23-2006, 10:21 AM
yeah, but he's not great

Cortlax10
06-03-2008, 08:11 AM
Dan hardy is nasty..he deserves the number

Run-DMC
06-03-2008, 08:16 AM
22 is just a number and he chose it for a reason (or maybe not, i dont know). Im almost positive he doesnt want everyone to compare him to gary gait because of the jersey number he wears.

vonlewis 22
06-03-2008, 08:19 AM
Its like some one at North Carolina taking the number 23

Prof. Mushroom
06-03-2008, 11:59 AM
22 is just a number and he chose it for a reason (or maybe not, i dont know). Im almost positive he doesnt want everyone to compare him to gary gait because of the jersey number he wears.

Except that most (I say most, because there is always someone who will disagree) will continue to compare, because #22 is not just a number for most of lacrosse nation and especially 'Cuse fans. Considering the legacy that comes with #22 and the greats who wore it, coupled with the fact that he specifically requested the number causes people to compare him to the likes of Gary Gait, Mikey Powell etc. regardless of whether he wants them to or not.
He probably knew that too when he asked for the number...
The Prof.

sjesuitlax
06-03-2008, 12:03 PM
i think it's like #23 to basketball.

Run-DMC
06-03-2008, 07:08 PM
Except that most (I say most, because there is always someone who will disagree) will continue to compare, because #22 is not just a number for most of lacrosse nation and especially 'Cuse fans. Considering the legacy that comes with #22 and the greats who wore it, coupled with the fact that he specifically requested the number causes people to compare him to the likes of Gary Gait, Mikey Powell etc. regardless of whether he wants them to or not.
He probably knew that too when he asked for the number...
The Prof.

I just dont think that hardy should be recieving as much cr-p that he is. I dont think I thought it through as much as I should have though, I apologize.

blackdouglas
06-03-2008, 08:40 PM
#22 is definately a big deal at syracuse,Hardy did step up and pump in 3 when it counted,i think in 09 he is going to come alive and show he deserves the legendary number...lets give him a break for now WE'RE THE CHAMPS!!!!!!!!!

cgarrigues
06-03-2008, 10:43 PM
I loved it when goalie Jay Pfeiffer offered to wear it for his senior year after Mikey graduated.

UHSlax-3
06-05-2008, 02:00 PM
wearing 22 in lax is just like somebody wearing 23 in basketball... just my opinion

RichfromBoston
06-08-2008, 07:40 AM
Up until the final 4 I would consider him a bit of a disapointment

That said I think he earned the #22 in Foxboro

GoBucks
06-08-2008, 02:33 PM
I thought Paul Gait wore #22 also? Could someone clarify?

But anyway, I don't think the number 22 is just a legendary number at Syracuse, it's a legendary number in all of lacrosse. Whenever I see some guy wearing that number I think, "This guy's probably pretty good."

Gait and the Powells wearing #22 is like Micheal Jordan wearing #23 or Peyton Manning/Kyle Harrison wearing #18. Heck, ever since A.J. Hawk made his name at Ohio State I've seen so many more high school football players in central Ohio wearing #47. A number is just a number until someone makes a name for it. Before those guys, they were just jersey numbers.

And about Dan Hardy, give him some time. I don't see anyone naming off other players at Syracuse besides Mike Leveille that are more deserving to wear it. The simplest solution would be to retire the number so we don't have any more discussions like this.

sjesuitlax
06-08-2008, 02:36 PM
I thought Paul Gait wore #22 also? Could someone clarify?


Paul and Gary Gait are twins. They both went to Syracuse at the same time. Gary wore #22 Paul wore #19.

GoBucks
06-08-2008, 02:50 PM
Okey dokey. I thought Paul was older and not a twin, thanks.

sjesuitlax
06-08-2008, 03:13 PM
Okey dokey. I thought Paul was older and not a twin, thanks.

no problem

SuperHyphy
06-08-2008, 08:46 PM
if he wants to be 22 he should be allowed to be number 22. If Syracuse really cared that much it would be retired. What about Marechek's 42? A d-pole was using that.

Plus retiring the same number for 6 guys... Extermely unusual.