stick check

[LaxMVP25]

my cousin got his stick checked 30 seconds into the game, is that legal? what happened was it was too short because he cut a d stick in half

[DuLAX]

the coach of the other team has the right to ask the ref to check anyones stick in the game- anytime

[laxfreghtrain]

at least, for the first time. the rules prohibit to much of it though.
Only one player’s equipment may be inspected per request. All aspects of the equipment construction and dimensions will be considered. If a head coach makes a second or subsequent request, and all equipment is found to be legal, that head coach’s team will be penalize, assuming no violations were found in a previous request.

[Snake~eyes]

There really is no limit on how many checks he may request, itsjust that he will be penalized for subsquent checks where the previous check was legal. :)

[LaxMVP25]

from what i was told the ref decided to check the stick not the coach

[Snake~eyes]

Well this can also be done, although unusual.

[michaeldwilson]

Originally posted by LaxMVP25
from what i was told the ref decided to check the stick not the coach

The refs are supposed to check the equipment of a player from each team one a half (twice a game) during a dead ball. We're supposed to choose a player who scores a lot or who handles the ball a lot.

The coach can also call for a check. The first time, if there's nothing illegal, no harm done. But if the coach asks again, and there's nothing illegal, he gets charged a time out.

Now there's this strange thing about no penalities for unlimited requests during timeouts and between quarters. I don't understand this rule, I don't like this rule, and I hope it doesn't come up.

Mike

[LaxRef]

Originally posted by michaeldwilson
The refs are supposed to check the equipment of a player from each team one a half (twice a game) during a dead ball. We're supposed to choose a player who scores a lot or who handles the ball a lot.

The coach can also call for a check. The first time, if there's nothing illegal, no harm done. But if the coach asks again, and there's nothing illegal, he gets charged a time out.

Now there's this strange thing about no penalities for unlimited requests during timeouts and between quarters. I don't understand this rule, I don't like this rule, and I hope it doesn't come up.

Under NCAA mechanics, we're not supposed to do equipment checks except between quarters (not at haltime, either), and even then we're only supposed to check the sticks, not the other equipment. However, if you spot someone who's illegal, you should penalize. If this kid had literally "cut his shaft in half," that's an easy call.

The "strange thing" you mention has been a bone of contention of mine for years. It's finally out of the NCAA rulebook.

Oh, and if you're out of timeouts when a failed stick check would normally cost you a timeout, you get a technical foul called.

[LaxMVP25]

no he cut a defence stick in half to make an attack sized shaft and since d sticks arnt twice as long it was a few inches short

[Snake~eyes]

Hrm, I was pretty sure that you could cut a dshaft in half.

Dshaft is ~62inches

62/2 = 31inches

31inch shaft + 10inch head = 41inch = legal

[LaxMVP25]

hmm on lacrosse.com all the d shafts are 60 and attack are 30/31 so maybe he got a 58 shaft or maybe his friend screwed him an inch

[LaxRef]

Originally posted by LaxMVP25
no he cut a defence stick in half to make an attack sized shaft and since d sticks arnt twice as long it was a few inches short

D sticks are 52-72 inches total length, so depending on the starting length it might end up legal or might not. In any case, if it's obvious to the offical that it's too short, he can inspect it and flag it.

The head coach certiifies before each game that he has inspected the equipment of every player and that it's all legal. I think most coaches would rather take the occasional 3:00 penalty than bother checking.

[jazzjon9]

one guy pinched a matrix and at practice coach was none too happy when it stuck in his stick. of course, that was checked, and it was LEGAL. don't ask me how, it was.

[LaxRef]

Originally posted by LaxMiddie32
The thing is, not many teams have kids that all play with legal sticks. So if you start going around asking for stick checks, that means the other coach is probably going to start asking for them too, and most coaches dont want to risk a 3 minute non-releaseable.

If you're a smart coach and you think a kid has an illegal stick, you wait until just after he scores a goal to call for the stick check, because then if it's illegal the goal comes off the board. This doesn't work in OT, however.

[Snake~eyes]

Yea that actually is a great point.

[nVlax]

lots of players with illegal sticks now use those draw-string like knots... ie// draw string at bottom lace, stick-checked called just pull the string and ur illegal stick is now a tennis racquet... What are the rules with these kind of tricky subversive things players get away with now?

[Thrillhouse]

Originally posted by LaxRef
If you're a smart coach and you think a kid has an illegal stick, you wait until just after he scores a goal to call for the stick check, because then if it's illegal the goal comes off the board. This doesn't work in OT, however.

That's interesting, I didn't know that.

I guess the game would be over so it would be to late to make the call...?

[LaxRef]

Originally posted by nVlax
lots of players with illegal sticks now use those draw-string like knots... ie// draw string at bottom lace, stick-checked called just pull the string and ur illegal stick is now a tennis racquet... What are the rules with these kind of tricky subversive things players get away with now?

Under NCAA rules, adjusting the strings or jamming the crosse when asked for your stick is an immediate 1:00 USC. You still get penalized if the stick is illegal. I'm still trying to figure out if adjusting strings or jamming the crosse takes the goal off the board.

[Snake~eyes]

Originally posted by LaxRef
Under NCAA rules, adjusting the strings or jamming the crosse when asked for your stick is an immediate 1:00 USC. You still get penalized if the stick is illegal. I'm still trying to figure out if adjusting strings or jamming the crosse takes the goal off the board.
Same for NFHS.

I looked up the NFHS caseplay.

NFHS 5.4 Situation D: During the game, an official asks a player for his crosse so the official can check it. Before the player hands the crosse to the official, he adjusts hte strings. RULING: A one-minute nonreleaseable penalty must be served. If the player with the adjusted crosse scored a goal just before the crosse inspection ("stick check"), the goal is disallowed.