Quinzani of Dux denied AA by coaches

[Hi-d-ho]

MQ of dux, who'll set the national scoring record in the next game or two was denied AA honors by a commitee of local coaches. (You can see the article online at boston.com). They cited "sportsmanship" issues but won't actually say what their reasons are.....bc they are coaches, I find this very cowardly to put this all in public then not say anything...

I don't know nor have I ever played against himn but from what I've read most people have nothin but good things to say.

what do people think?

[WHEELAX2]

well, if there are several on field issues, I can certainly agree with declining all american status

[Eclipse]

Its wierd he didnt get AA...but he made the Under Armour AA list.

[stegmakk]

more disturbing is he made AA as a soph and jr...but now not as a sr...
i have met some players with attitude problems but to deny a stand out player AA status seems extreme unless he picked fights in multiple games...

[MeRattack]

it doesnt matter if he made all american anyways, hes still gonna play college lacrosse and being an AA this year would have done nothing for the future, everyone knows hes good

[stegmakk]

it doesnt matter if he made all american anyways, hes still gonna play college lacrosse and being an AA this year would have done nothing for the future, everyone knows hes good
It probably matters to him...pride, honor...he gave up his time, body, blood, sweat, etc...
That would be like saying we dont have to put Michael Jordan into the hall of fame...Everyone knows he was good...and his career is over anyways...so it will do nothing for his future...lets not induct him...

[WHEELAX2]

Its wierd he didnt get AA...but he made the Under Armour AA list.


well, they don't have the "inside" information the local AA people do

[Eclipse]

It probably matters to him...pride, honor...he gave up his time, body, blood, sweat, etc...
That would be like saying we dont have to put Michael Jordan into the hall of fame...Everyone knows he was good...and his career is over anyways...so it will do nothing for his future...lets not induct him...

Quoted for emphasis

Who is to say a player can Get AA soph JR year, get UA AA, abd break the national scoring record, and not get All American? It doesnt seem to me like behavior could have been an issue, shouldnt behavioral problems have resulted in suspensions. Whether it was on or off the field and action that could have prevented him from getting AA would have gotten him suspended (Alchohol, drugs, fighting) and as far as i know he was never suspended

[Farny]

In another topic they said he was arrested on a DUI. Maybe...?

[stegmakk]

In another topic they said he was arrested on a DUI. Maybe...?
can yuo link up the article...i must have missed it...my eyes wandered onto the bellicheck/lax article...

if it was a dui then his coach should have reprimanded him/suspended him etc...
unless he got no punishment and this was the local region's way of dishing out a punishment they felt had not been leveled...

[Hi-d-ho]

In another topic they said he was arrested on a DUI. Maybe...?

that happened just near the start of the season and it wasn't a DUI. He got pulled over and there were beer bottles in the car. He served a 4 game suspension to start the year, which was big chatter in the mass lax circles.

I was actually posing the question to see if anyone out there who has met, played against, was taught by (I know he was at TopGun), etc thinks.

[tribal803]

i don't know what they were thinking...even if he did have a little over the average temper on the field...HES GONNA HAVE TO MOST HIGHSCHOOL CAREER POINTS EVER. Obviously he should be an All American because he is one of the best if not THE BEST highschool lacrosse player ever

[jaw22]

No, I disagree with all of you. He does not deserve to be an all american. All American is a title that should only go to deserving people. Sure, he has good lacrosse skills, but if hes a bad person he should not be honored. I've heard hes arrogant, and an alcoholic. I don't necessarily believe this, but regardless, hes not a person younger players should look up to, and thus not an all american.

[Lax101]

Ok guys,

1) He WAS suspended for alcohol-related issues. Well, he didn't fail a brethalyzer but cops found beer in his car, so they suspended him, and he served his time (the MIAA requires 2 weeks)
2) He's not arrogant. One TLF kid mentioned how he is arrogant, but if anyone's talked to him at Top Gun Camp, he's a great guy who will help you learn the game. Ask anyone who's been to Top Gun on TLF. Unlike other top schools, Duxbury kids ARE gentlemen. They aren't a Darien, where the entire state hates them. MA schools love Duxbury. They don't think, "that team's rigged and they're tools", they think "let's go watch their game because we can LEARN something from them"

3) Max is allegedly headed to Duke this year. Since Max already has gotten every accolade possible in MA lacrosse, why not make a lesson out of Max? Let's see, he's the most accomplished MA lax player in decades, at the ugliest time of lacrosse in years-the Duke scandal. Oh...MAX WAS RECRUITED BY DUKE? AND HE WAS ARRESTED FOR DUI? WHAT A COINCIDENCE! Hey guys, let's make an example out of Max, since lacrosse doesn't condone alcoholic party-goers from Duke...and Max technically counts as one. Hooray, lacrosse gets a moral victory.

[faceitoff]

He was cool when I met him at Top Gun. Unless you actually have met him, can you actually judge him? Look at yourselves, guys. Look at the accusations you guys are spitting out.

[ByrdDpole]

No, I disagree with all of you. He does not deserve to be an all american. All American is a title that should only go to deserving people. Sure, he has good lacrosse skills, but if hes a bad person he should not be honored. I've heard hes arrogant, and an alcoholic. I don't necessarily believe this, but regardless, hes not a person younger players should look up to, and thus not an all american.

Michael Jordan was a chronic gambler who lost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Should kids look up to him, in a basketball sense? YES. This doesn't necessarily mean they should do everything he did, but he provides a great example of basketball skill. Same with Quinzani. He has the skill, and kids should aim to be better than him. Thats how better lacrosse players are developed.

[I Am Legend]

more disturbing is he made AA as a soph and jr...but now not as a sr...
i have met some players with attitude problems but to deny a stand out player AA status seems extreme unless he picked fights in multiple games...

Maybe a DUI has something to do with it...

[blckout20]

They aren't a Darien, where the entire state hates them. MA schools love Duxbury.

I'd hardly say the entire state hates Darien. I play in CT and have no problem with Darien. They are a very talented and competitive team. They have ongoing rivalries with Greenwich and New Canaan but it is a competitive rivalry. You are implying that Darien players are arrogant and such which I don't think should be done.

[jaw22]

I'd hardly say the entire state hates Darien. I play in CT and have no problem with Darien. They are a very talented and competitive team. They have ongoing rivalries with Greenwich and New Canaan but it is a competitive rivalry. You are implying that Darien players are arrogant and such which I don't think should be done.

I for one hate Darien. I believe the word to describe them is "Hubris"

[I Am Legend]

It probably matters to him...pride, honor...he gave up his time, body, blood, sweat, etc...
That would be like saying we dont have to put Michael Jordan into the hall of fame...Everyone knows he was good...and his career is over anyways...so it will do nothing for his future...lets not induct him...

That is a very good way to put it, but on the other hand is a guy who isnt even out of high school and is getting put up on DUI charges someone your going to want to elect as an All - American?

[Hi-d-ho]

Maybe a DUI has something to do with it...

They claim no. They cite "several on-field sportsmanship issues" as the reason.

I've seen him play probably 10 times, and haven't seen him do anything. I kind of think it's odd. If he was a goon (how can you be when you're 5'8"?) I would have seen something in the ~10 times I've seen games. That's why I'm wondering where this came from and wanted to hear from Top Gunners, or opponents, or people who've met him etc.

I think Dux will remember where these coaches who voted came from....granted they won't be as nasty as they are this year, but they won't forget.

[Hi-d-ho]

well said.

[Lax101]

I'd hardly say the entire state hates Darien. I play in CT and have no problem with Darien. They are a very talented and competitive team. They have ongoing rivalries with Greenwich and New Canaan but it is a competitive rivalry. You are implying that Darien players are arrogant and such which I don't think should be done.
Well, I played with quite a few Wilton, New Canaan, and Fairfield Prep kids over the summer and they would constantly rip Darien. I've also heard stories of Darien players making fun of an overweight girl at Topgun Camp over the summer, causing the girl to run away and cry. Yes, a small, maybe isolated incident, but it still reflects poorly on Darien as a whole.

[ShockerAutc]

I personally think the players should be judged by their skill and nothing else.

[SwRLaX10D]

I've played against him (not myself, but my team), and he is a good kid, skill-wise and personality-wise. How dare they deny him AA

[Hi-d-ho]

That is a very good way to put it, but on the other hand is a guy who isnt even out of high school and is getting put up on DUI charges someone your going to want to elect as an All - American?

in the past, including last year, they've given kids who served suspensions for DUI etc. AA awards....

[trd6478]

quinzani denied for open bottle law, nizolek allowed with steroids.......