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michaeldwilson
05-13-2004, 12:16 PM
When I ref, one thing I would really like to see more is an official scorebook to keep track of fouls and the roster. They don't have a scorer's table and someone I can specifically address on the questions of fouls and goals.
The high school teams here are extremely lax on this. I wonder if I'm being too concerned about this, or if I shouldn't worry about insisting that the home team get this part right.
Mike
laxbabe2121
05-13-2004, 02:02 PM
what i did for my team, was got one of those black brine lacrosse scorebooks. one of the parents who used to play lacrosse and understood the sport, keeps track of all that stuff for me. you should just force all teams to purchase one, and keep track of that stuff, and also they have this spot where the ref signs so that you can make sure that both teams agree on the score.
i use http://www.sportscombine.com as a host to keep all our scores and games.
Snake~eyes
05-13-2004, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by michaeldwilson
When I ref, one thing I would really like to see more is an official scorebook to keep track of fouls and the roster. They don't have a scorer's table and someone I can specifically address on the questions of fouls and goals.
The high school teams here are extremely lax on this. I wonder if I'm being too concerned about this, or if I shouldn't worry about insisting that the home team get this part right.
Mike
Any HS games I ref have a scorebook and the home scorebook which is the official scorebook for the game, must be signed by the officials. Lots of times the visiting teams ask for signatures too.
TheKOB
05-14-2004, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by michaeldwilson
The high school teams here are extremely lax on this. I wonder if I'm being too concerned about this, or if I shouldn't worry about insisting that the home team get this part right.
Mike
LAX! HA!
Anyways, I agree. Down here, if it's at the beginning of the year (and have no injured players) it's hard to find someone to keep time and mind the scorebook. We struggle with it every game. The refs are really good about explaining to the timekeeper about it though...
LaxRef
05-14-2004, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by michaeldwilson
When I ref, one thing I would really like to see more is an official scorebook to keep track of fouls and the roster. They don't have a scorer's table and someone I can specifically address on the questions of fouls and goals.
The high school teams here are extremely lax on this. I wonder if I'm being too concerned about this, or if I shouldn't worry about insisting that the home team get this part right.
This is something I'd like to see addressed more clearly in the rules; I'm sure it's not an issue for DI games, but it sure can be at lower levels.
Failure to have a horn or a clock is illegal procedure, which currently flies as a dead ball technical foul and is only a possession foul since it's before the opening face. I think it should be 30 seconds for each of these, as well as the scorebook.
As I read the rules, the table is part of the field, so if they don't get one they get a 3:00 NR and a 0:30 technical foul.
They have to have a timer and scorer. It doesn't specifically say this in the rules, but if the team tried to tell me they didn't have a scorer or timer I'd make them put a coach in there (or have a player take off his gear). If they refused, I'd start assessing USC penalties until they complied.
This will get better as time goes by in your area, particularly if officials make it clear to the home team that these things are not optional.
laxbabe2121
05-14-2004, 10:49 AM
i've never had a problem with that... we've always had the cones/tables/clock/scorebook... i thought that was the whole point of being the HOME TEAM!? so you PROVIDE that?
TheKOB
05-14-2004, 10:56 AM
It's not as easy to get together as it sounds, especially for a newer team.
LaxRef
05-14-2004, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by laxbabe2121
i've never had a problem with that... we've always had the cones/tables/clock/scorebook... i thought that was the whole point of being the HOME TEAM!? so you PROVIDE that?
It's supposed to be, but it is a problem in areas where lacrosse is just getting started--and even occasionally where lacrosse has been around for a long time.
Some teams have a hard enough time getting the field lined!
This can also be a problem on neutral sites, where one team is arbitrarily designated the home team but hasn't received clear instructions about what their responsibilities will be.