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ReLaxin 13
06-09-2006, 07:28 PM
New Company that makes shafts, it's up on Laxshopper.com. Website is GossLacrosse.com. Apparently it's carbon fiber shafts, they look pretty cheap to me. I searched.

trd6478
06-09-2006, 07:37 PM
the label is kinda goofy looking

EndlesFimbulvet
06-09-2006, 07:44 PM
Ive seen the Talon one at GBlax 2 years ago..weird.

MainLax28
06-09-2006, 08:34 PM
Some of their patterns are pretty cool, but their prices are way high. I'd like to see one of those timbers in a pole though

koabich
06-09-2006, 08:47 PM
You would not think they are high at all once you got your hands on one. I ordered an Diamond Back attack shaft several weeks ago. Once I got it, I promply ordered another attack shaft along with 2 D shafts. The shafts are very, very light and very, very strong. There is absolutly zero flex. These shafts are worth the money. So far, they are holding up 100 times better than any metal shaft I ever had. Each shaft is custom made for you however so there is a 2-3 wait time...at least for the shafts I have ordered.
I would definately look into them. You won't be dissapointed.

bloodilax977
06-09-2006, 09:40 PM
Nice find. In my opinion, the shafts look way too goofy and are too expensive for a company that size. Even though, for all I know, they could be the best shafts available, if I buy composite it's either going to be Harrow or Serpent.

BeaverFondu
06-09-2006, 09:49 PM
Nice find. In my opinion, the shafts look way too goofy and are too expensive for a company that size. Even though, for all I know, they could be the best shafts available, if I buy composite it's either going to be Harrow or Serpent.


If you email the guy and talk to him about the logo's he can put anything there. Its just a piece of paper that the epoxied over.

goalie1215
06-09-2006, 09:49 PM
i belieive i saw a picture of the owner of gosslacrosse standing on one of the shafts supended between 2 benches. try that with a kpro and see what happens.

by the way, they have been around for awhile now.

ColtsLax
06-09-2006, 11:34 PM
old, i played with a kid this summer who had one, and they are really nice, its was one of the better Dpoles ive used.

the next 'one'
06-09-2006, 11:43 PM
looks pretty sweet to me. i think i am just going to stick with one of those serpent shafts when i get the money. and i dont think any shaft will break if you stand on it suspended between 2 benches.

slinkyspine
06-10-2006, 02:00 AM
looks pretty sweet to me. i think i am just going to stick with one of those serpent shafts when i get the money. and i dont think any shaft will break if you stand on it suspended between 2 benches.
Are you joking?



Go take a ti shaft(no MIL's!) and stand on it suspended it. . . it bends. . . alot.

Npaulseth
06-10-2006, 02:04 AM
I have one and it's amazing. Worth the money by far. Best grip I have ever felt. The owner is a great person to deal with as well. He hand makes each one of the shafts.

destructivelax
06-10-2006, 07:40 AM
wat's the warranty on these shaftS?

PMRaiderLax6
06-10-2006, 09:02 AM
If you email the guy and talk to him about the logo's he can put anything there. Its just a piece of paper that the epoxied over.
The graphics, words, colors or patterns are an actual, integral part of the stick. They can't scrape off, wash off, peel off or fall off.
It seems like they might be more than a Piece of paper on the shaft. These things look pretty sweet, I'm thinking of getting one with Quik Stik Lacrosse on it, or something like it.

BeaverFondu
06-10-2006, 10:11 AM
It seems like they might be more than a Piece of paper on the shaft. These things look pretty sweet, I'm thinking of getting one with Quik Stik Lacrosse on it, or something like it.


Well, yeah its more than a sheet of paper. But it's the general gist of it all. They put the image down and then from there you add another layer of epoxy or finish.

dram183
06-10-2006, 10:28 AM
where are the prices? and warranty?

MNM19
06-10-2006, 10:43 AM
go to the website, then go to "photos" and at the bottom of it there is that picture of the guy standing on the shaft between two benches

laxman37
06-10-2006, 11:16 AM
Nice find. In my opinion, the shafts look way too goofy and are too expensive for a company that size. Even though, for all I know, they could be the best shafts available, if I buy composite it's either going to be Harrow or Serpent.
They are handmade, so the time it takes to make them costs money. If you have big machines then you can just turn them out by the dozen. If it is a small company logically is should cost more.

They do look pretty sweet...although they are a bit out of my price range at this time.

I Am Legend
06-10-2006, 11:52 AM
When i first saw it....it reminded me of a pool cue.

Mad-Max
06-10-2006, 12:04 PM
You would not think they are high at all once you got your hands on one. I ordered an Diamond Back attack shaft several weeks ago. Once I got it, I promply ordered another attack shaft along with 2 D shafts. The shafts are very, very light and very, very strong. There is absolutly zero flex. These shafts are worth the money. So far, they are holding up 100 times better than any metal shaft I ever had. Each shaft is custom made for you however so there is a 2-3 wait time...at least for the shafts I have ordered.
I would definately look into them. You won't be dissapointed.


just wondering out of curiosity, but would you explain any differences there is between the all carbon fiber shaft and the carbon fiber/ kevlar shaft? such as weight, strength, etc... thanks.

slinkyspine
06-10-2006, 01:35 PM
Carbon Graphite... is a different composite. Its more Flexible than CF/ Kevlar.

But heavier


CF/Kevlar is mad stiff, mad strong and light.
But, the stiffness may make it brittle for the high pressure and impact blows.

PMRaiderLax6
06-10-2006, 01:49 PM
CF/Kevlar is mad stiff, mad strong and light.
But, the stiffness may make it brittle for the high pressure and impact blows.
stick check absorbing "Strux" core
But maybe they've taken care of that with this "Strux" core feature?

koabich
06-10-2006, 04:17 PM
In theory a completly carbon fiber (this applies when comparing all carbon fiber products to an identical product made of caebon fiber/kevlar) shaft will be lighter, less prone to flexing and more brittle. I purchased the carbon fiber/kevlar shafts however just because I felt they looked nicer. I talked with the owner for a while on his shafts. I ordered the Timber/box shaft. They are constructed of 3 layers of carbon fiber and one layer of carbon fiber/kevlar. Each is hand made to your specifications...this is a lot of work as the shafts are hand laid and the material is expensive...much more so than plastic or composite. As a matter of fact, a company such as Warrior or Brine could not afford to make a shaft such as this do to costs. These shafts cannot be mass produced at a production level. The first layer is applied and needs time to cure...then several days laterthe next layer and then several days later the next...so on and so forth.

As far as warranty, Goss told me to send the shaft back at ant time for a replacment...they do this as they want to see where/how the shaft fails to help improve their future products.

Personally, after receiving my first shaft, I was so impressed, I immediately ordered 3 more. They are very light, very strong and has absolutly zero flex. They also have more grip than any shaft out ther. So far mine are holding up better than any shaft I have ever owned...that includes the best shafts available from any manufacture.

As far as the name plate on the shafts, they are part of the shaft (actually it is under the epoxy coating). They will never rub off or dissapear. Not everone will like the looks of the name plate and you can order a shaft without one.
But Goss is offering this nice option free of charge...another nice custom touch to Goss shafts.

The shaft may be expensive for some but you will go through 3 to 5 of the $100.00 metal shafts before you will even begin thinking about replacing the Goss.

It's definately worth the money.

Npaulseth
06-10-2006, 04:51 PM
In theory a completly carbon fiber (this applies when comparing all carbon fiber products to an identical product made of caebon fiber/kevlar) shaft will be lighter, less prone to flexing and more brittle. I purchased the carbon fiber/kevlar shafts however just because I felt they looked nicer. I talked with the owner for a while on his shafts. I ordered the Timber/box shaft. They are constructed of 3 layers of carbon fiber and one layer of carbon fiber/kevlar. Each is hand made to your specifications...this is a lot of work as the shafts are hand laid and the material is expensive...much more so than plastic or composite. As a matter of fact, a company such as Warrior or Brine could not afford to make a shaft such as this do to costs. These shafts cannot be mass produced at a production level. The first layer is applied and needs time to cure...then several days laterthe next layer and then several days later the next...so on and so forth.

As far as warranty, Goss told me to send the shaft back at ant time for a replacment...they do this as they want to see where/how the shaft fails to help improve their future products.

Personally, after receiving my first shaft, I was so impressed, I immediately ordered 3 more. They are very light, very strong and has absolutly zero flex. They also have more grip than any shaft out ther. So far mine are holding up better than any shaft I have ever owned...that includes the best shafts available from any manufacture.

As far as the name plate on the shafts, they are part of the shaft (actually it is under the epoxy coating). They will never rub off or dissapear. Not everone will like the looks of the name plate and you can order a shaft without one.
But Goss is offering this nice option free of charge...another nice custom touch to Goss shafts.

The shaft may be expensive for some but you will go through 3 to 5 of the $100.00 metal shafts before you will even begin thinking about replacing the Goss.

It's definately worth the money.

Those are my thoughts exactly!

PuLsE_SpEeD
06-10-2006, 05:57 PM
does anyone know how much they weight vs. a db803 (5.0 ounces)?

cgv1016
06-10-2006, 06:00 PM
wouldnt be caught dead w/ that, judging by looks, but it could perform really well.

Npaulseth
06-10-2006, 06:58 PM
170 grams.

I think that's 6oz.

slinkyspine
06-10-2006, 07:03 PM
But maybe they've taken care of that with this "Strux" core feature?
Could be true. Then it would blow a harrow outta the water... oh and by the way if my monster was to break I know my next shaft.

D Bay
06-10-2006, 07:22 PM
Not gonna lie, I don't much like it. The look of it is kinda homemade looking, not in a good way, and it's not the lightest thing out there, so I'm not sure what it's got going for it, except strength. I don't know, I just don't see it as something I would use, but that's me, and no, I haven't used it, so if it's actually sick, don't listen to me. I'm judging a book by it's cover, but I'm just gonna stick with that serpent I have on the way

koabich
06-11-2006, 01:03 AM
It looks as good as any other shaft from the pictures in the website. In person they are as perfectly made as any other shaft so I have no idea how you can say they look poorly made from looking some pictures on a web site. If it's the name plates you are reffering to, well order the shaft without them.

As far as weight, well they make three different versions of each stick...light, normal and box. The weight stated above was for their normal weight shaft...if 6 oz is too heavy, go with the light version of the shaft...if that is not light enough, email them and and them to make it even lighter.

Considering all the advantages of this shaft (stronger, less flex, better grip, and longer lasting) when compared to a Ti shaft, I would have a hard time believing anyone could choose a Ti shaft over this just because of a couple of grams difference in weight. If such a small amount of weight honestly improves or makes any kind of difference at all in your game, you might want to look into another sport.

I am not trying to flame anyone here but I am trying to defend an excellent company and an excellent product..it's not often a product comes along that way out performs the competition and does it at a lower price point. There is a lot of missinformation floating around and I hate to hear people judge a product(for good or bad) soley based on viewing a picture downloaded from the web.
I realize Goss is small and not too well known. I understand the shafts may not be seen as the coolest shaft out there and that your fellow team mates may look down on you because you do not have the newest and coolest shaft out at the moment. But at least you can say you have a handmade shaft customized to your specifications. While you team mates are playing with a 3 week old metal shaft that s bent and dinged and on the verge of snapping, your Goss shaft will not even be showing the slightest hint of wear. There is no marketing hype behind these shafts...everything thing they do is based soley on performance and quality.

the next 'one'
06-11-2006, 01:26 AM
are they circular or do they have an octogonal shape. they look completely round.

PuLsE_SpEeD
06-11-2006, 07:28 AM
I can't seem to e-mail them...does anyone else have this problem, I'm trying to figure out exactally how much a talon wieghs.

slinkyspine
06-11-2006, 11:13 AM
I can't seem to e-mail them...does anyone else have this problem, I'm trying to figure out exactally how much a talon wieghs.
6 oz normaly. They can make it lighter or heavier depending on your specifications.

koabich
06-11-2006, 11:56 AM
are they circular or do they have an octogonal shape. they look completely round.

They are oval shaped that leans toward round. The shafts are also pylon shaped...they are smaller in diameter at the head and as you work your way down to the butt end, they get larger in diameter

RockStar
06-11-2006, 02:03 PM
.........The shaft may be expensive for some but you will go through 3 to 5 of the $100.00 metal shafts before you will even begin thinking about replacing the Goss.......

If you buy crappy $100 tin cans from Warrior and the like, this may be true.

However, Goss is still a very expensive shaft relative to what you actually need to spend. Is the Goss lighter? Is it stronger? Is it stiffer?

Possibly yes on all, but bottom line, it's still just a handle. I can pretty well guarantee the extra cash spent is not going to result in any more goals scored, or stick checks landed for the user.

Spend your money with caution, kids. Good gloves and a good head do far more for your performance than any shaft.

Now, the real bargains:
Some of us know where to get incredibly durable metal shafts for $60 or less, Mohawk for one. At ~$50, the Harrow C1 is an excellent bargain alternate. Hell, at ~$25, ash or hickory handles do just fine! Add some athletic tape from a $2 roll, and I'll even outgrip the best shaft finish available!

Monzo
06-11-2006, 07:17 PM
Spend your money with caution, kids. Good gloves and a good head do far more for your performance than any shaft.


You have a very good point here. Maybe the field lacrosse that I play is not of the best in the nation, but the only broken/bent shafts I saw this season (high school) were AL6000's, Brine Throttles, and an old STX aluminum. Some may disagree with me, but I don't think buying the strongest shaft available will help your FIELD game. Most of us (short sticks, at least) will break maybe one shaft per season. Therefore, it is better to find a shaft that suits you rather than the strongest, lightest, most expensive one. If that shaft happens to be the one that suits you, then, by all means, buy it.

You're allowed to disagree with me. In fact, I was expecting that.

eamiddy16
06-11-2006, 08:39 PM
how long does the grip last? will it slowly wear away ?

Bulldoglaxer
06-13-2006, 01:28 PM
different colors?

MeRattack
06-13-2006, 03:21 PM
wow, they have a cheetah design shaft

koabich
06-13-2006, 04:40 PM
how long does the grip last? will it slowly wear away ?

Anything will wear over time but the grip on an Goss shaft is actually part of the stick (it's the resin coating) so while it will wear down eventully, I wouldn't be concerned about it.

koabich
06-13-2006, 04:45 PM
According to Goss, the Box shaft I ordered weighs 170 grams or 5.971 ounces. He makes 3 different versions of attack shafts with the Box or Timber being the heaviest(unless you custom order something else from him).

D Bay
06-13-2006, 05:19 PM
It looks as good as any other shaft from the pictures in the website. In person they are as perfectly made as any other shaft so I have no idea how you can say they look poorly made from looking some pictures on a web site. If it's the name plates you are reffering to, well order the shaft without them.

As far as weight, well they make three different versions of each stick...light, normal and box. The weight stated above was for their normal weight shaft...if 6 oz is too heavy, go with the light version of the shaft...if that is not light enough, email them and and them to make it even lighter.

Considering all the advantages of this shaft (stronger, less flex, better grip, and longer lasting) when compared to a Ti shaft, I would have a hard time believing anyone could choose a Ti shaft over this just because of a couple of grams difference in weight. If such a small amount of weight honestly improves or makes any kind of difference at all in your game, you might want to look into another sport.

I am not trying to flame anyone here but I am trying to defend an excellent company and an excellent product..it's not often a product comes along that way out performs the competition and does it at a lower price point. There is a lot of missinformation floating around and I hate to hear people judge a product(for good or bad) soley based on viewing a picture downloaded from the web.
I realize Goss is small and not too well known. I understand the shafts may not be seen as the coolest shaft out there and that your fellow team mates may look down on you because you do not have the newest and coolest shaft out at the moment. But at least you can say you have a handmade shaft customized to your specifications. While you team mates are playing with a 3 week old metal shaft that s bent and dinged and on the verge of snapping, your Goss shaft will not even be showing the slightest hint of wear. There is no marketing hype behind these shafts...everything thing they do is based soley on performance and quality.
Come on, bro. If you're directing this towards me, I think you may have got me wrong a little. First off, I don't think it looks poorly made, I think it looks homemade, which it is. I just don't like the cheesy look personally. Second, the light version of the shaft would end up sacrificing durablility for weight, so it probably won't be such a tank if it's the light version. Thirdly, I stated that I was deffinetely judging a book by it's cover. Probably shouldn't, but I am. I just don't like it, and I hate the look/shape.

BeaverFondu
06-13-2006, 09:23 PM
different colors?

If you email him about it I assume you could work something out. As koabich has said he is a very nice man to talk to about it. I emailed him a very casual laid back letter and he answered all my questions to the fullest.

Btw, koabich, did you get your D shafts in yet?

LAXBEAST80
06-15-2006, 10:42 PM
wow, they have a cheetah design shaft
I think that one looks pretty lame. But that's just me.