Red Bull vs Gatorade

[GlaxR]

so whats the diffrence between the energy drink(red bull) and gatorade (sport drink)

how would i react diffrent from drinkin a redbull before a game or a gatorade?

[YHSlax0506]

Redbull raises your blood pressure which isn't good when playing a sport. Sports drinks before a game aren't intended to be drank before a game. They are to refuel you. Also, Redbull will give you a short energy kick then you will have a big down-period and then back to normal. Just drink water before a game then during the game you can drink Gatorade/XS sports Drink(recommended). After the game you should drink water also.

[lax4lifever]

if you want some good energy drinks tyr nos or monster. nos tastes nasty but it helps me so much in games.

[italianstalion]

I think it was Cslax06 who said that he mixes gatorade, water, and an evergy drink before a game. That sounds pretty good to me because the get the best of everthing.

[ptlax24]

I hate drinking energy drinks before games they don't seem to help me and I just become really tired. I like mixing Propel or Option with water.

[Mustangs21]

I do the same thing as Cslax06 according to italianstalion then....before everygame i have a redbull/gatorade/water combo.....take a empty 20oz gatorade bottle, pour the whole redbull in there (8fl oz) then add 8 fl oz. of gatorade and fill the remaining 4 fl oz up with water...shake it up and ur good to go!

[Eclipse]

You should never drink energy drinks before games. The high amounts of sugar cause you to perform above average for about 15 minutes, then actually crash, and perform below average.

Gatorade affects you electrolytes, and adds a higher amount of sodium to you body, which just hydrates you faster and more effectively then water basically.

Drinking an energy drink before a game, is just like drinking a surge or something, its horrible for your body, does not hydrate you, and ends up doing more bad then good.

[goalie1500]

Gatorade-Water-Sugar-Salts-Electrolytes
Hydrates-Maintains Energy-Replenishes Minerals-Gives quick Energy and keeps a Focused mind and high level of awareness-Keeps your body alert/awake

Red Bull-Water-Sugar-Electrolytes-Taurine-Guarine-Caffine-
Gives very minum hydration and H2O is mainly used to blend other ingredients within-Lots of Excess hidden sugars give energy along with high caffine taurine and Guarine-(all hidden sugars that give 15 minutes of supercharged energy but fail to balance out and givve you a drop(low) for the rest of the hour until more H2O replenishes the body- The hidden sugars etc. raise blood pressure and increase heart rate not too natural and can cause problem in excesse-

So I would suggest gatorade/water before or during the game and maybe at the 4th quarter a red bull-

[Eclipse]

Caffeine also causes you to urinate more frequently as well, thus in turn, dehydrating you.

[cjm3113]

They both taste like crap, drink water.

[goalie1500]

They both taste like crap, drink water.

lol i think gatorades not as bad though

[Live4It]

Red Bull and Gatorade aren't even comparable, they are two totaly different catagories of drinks. But as far as before a game, GA is better, since energy drinks sometimes makes people crash, caffine doesn't have huge affects on me, and I don't usualy crash because of them. But sometime, if I drink it when I haven't eaten all day, then if there's enough caffine it'll make me shake a little.

[sidewinder19]

Redbull raises your blood pressure which isn't good when playing a sport. Sports drinks before a game aren't intended to be drank before a game. They are to refuel you. Also, Redbull will give you a short energy kick then you will have a big down-period and then back to normal. Just drink water before a game then during the game you can drink Gatorade/XS sports Drink(recommended). After the game you should drink water also.

Can you site the blood pressure thing?

Along with that, have proof that it will make you crash?

You should never drink energy drinks before games. The high amounts of sugar cause you to perform above average for about 15 minutes, then actually crash, and perform below average.

Gatorade affects you electrolytes, and adds a higher amount of sodium to you body, which just hydrates you faster and more effectively then water basically.

Drinking an energy drink before a game, is just like drinking a surge or something, its horrible for your body, does not hydrate you, and ends up doing more bad then good.

Again i don't think you crash from them till at least 2 hours after. But by that time your so exhausted from the game at hand you would have been just as tired if not more tired. I don't crash from energy drinks, i don't even get an energy rush though.they do nothing. The only thing that gets me hyped ( supplement or drink wise) is a herbalean capsule.

Gatorade-Water-Sugar-Salts-Electrolytes
Hydrates-Maintains Energy-Replenishes Minerals-Gives quick Energy and keeps a Focused mind and high level of awareness-Keeps your body alert/awake

Red Bull-Water-Sugar-Electrolytes-Taurine-Guarine-Caffine-
Gives very minum hydration and H2O is mainly used to blend other ingredients within-Lots of Excess hidden sugars give energy along with high caffine taurine and Guarine-(all hidden sugars that give 15 minutes of supercharged energy but fail to balance out and givve you a drop(low) for the rest of the hour until more H2O replenishes the body- The hidden sugars etc. raise blood pressure and increase heart rate not too natural and can cause problem in excesse-

So I would suggest gatorade/water before or during the game and maybe at the 4th quarter a red bull-

Blood Pressure thing...? can you prove/site it?

Caffeine also causes you to urinate more frequently as well, thus in turn, dehydrating you.

Really? proof of that?

Red Bull and Gatorade aren't even comparable, they are two totaly different catagories of drinks. But as far as before a game, GA is better, since energy drinks sometimes makes people crash, caffine doesn't have huge affects on me, and I don't usualy crash because of them. But sometime, if I drink it when I haven't eaten all day, then if there's enough caffine it'll make me shake a little.

Same, no effect on me.

I don't wanna sound like a jerk here but i just don't believe it....

You can alwys find a "medical/science" site that has no idea what they are talking about though. The things a sports nutritionist will tell you to eat are , in fact, about 5 years out of date. Pasta/Carbs before a game? Bad. Eat protein that is the best.

[cjm3113]

http://www.kidshealth.org/teen/food_fitness/sports/eatnrun.html

Clearly states that caffeine causes you to urinate more frequently. It also says that Gatorade will not be any more effective than water unless you are a. working out for 90+ minutes or b. working out in very hot weather.

As for the last thing you said, it is wrong. You still need a high carb meal before a game. Some protein? Of course, but more carbs on game day.

[missouri lax]

Gatorade is much better.

[Z12/AM]

energy drinks will kill your heart. it is one of the dumbest things i see before games. its like a 6 year old on halloween, they get really, really hyper, and then crash. same concept. hydrate, water and some fruits [for vitamins etc.] , at least one day before your game (if you really want the benfits), and then gatorade sparingly during the game, water during and immeadiately after, and gatorade like a half hour or so after. that's just what "science" says, but as sidewinder pointed out, science changes. ENERGY DRINKS WILL MAKE YOU KEEL OVER they are nothing but bad for you, that's a fact.

[Laxer1241]

I wouldnt get use to red bull because in college I believe you cant drink that or any substance like it its against NCAA policy

[PW_LAXMAN_07]

I would recommend mixing orange juice with water (about 2/3 water, 1/3 OJ).
I do this a lot, because fruit juices have a lot of nutritional value to give you energy, and vitamin c in orange juice is great for you as well. The reason I water it down is because A) it won't thicken your saliva as much, and B) sometimes OJ can give you an upset stomach if you drink too much.

just my two cents.

[cavslax12]

i wouldnt drink a energy drink. the time i did that i ended up puking. so i say stick with gatoraid. but water is the best

[goalie1500]

Varying with different people your heart wll hyperbeat and spasm and the ingredients/etc. over time may hurt young kids and make them have heart attacks-

Red Bull was designed from a substance made in WW@ and vietnam to keep the soliders going which worked great,but was soon found to cause health problems. Now they combined it with other materials and it's probably more dangerous-If you've heard of the rumor bull testicles is in it- The special "ingredient" actually is used to make the other thing for the soliders which is then put into your drink so don't worry out too much.

[dalaxmandef3]

Gatorade because I think red bull or tastes like cough medicine.

[navylax161]

water>gatorade>red bull

[Mike21]

Redbull=Caffeine which WILL dehydrate you.

Gatorade however will hyrdate you.

Long story short don't drink redbull right before/during a game. Something that hydrates you is a better choice.

[sidewinder19]

http://www.kidshealth.org/teen/food_fitness/sports/eatnrun.html

Clearly states that caffeine causes you to urinate more frequently. It also says that Gatorade will not be any more effective than water unless you are a. working out for 90+ minutes or b. working out in very hot weather.

As for the last thing you said, it is wrong. You still need a high carb meal before a game. Some protein? Of course, but more carbs on game day.

Sorry, you are wrong. Carbs=Bad. Don't worry about it, I know i'm right. People just don't understand. The food nutritionists/sports nutritionists...etc. are at least 3-5 years out of date. They don't start being taught it till a few years later. Seriously, i know my stuff on this, you ARE wrong. Ask a expert on spots nutrition (off the record of course) they will say what they teach is not the best.... really...yeah.

Redbull=Caffeine which WILL dehydrate you.

Gatorade however will hyrdate you.

Long story short don't drink redbull right before/during a game. Something that hydrates you is a better choice.

Caffeine dehydration....? again site your stuff.

Got the guide from my foods and nutrition teacher at school

It's all recent so it's up to date.





Sports Nutrition - Protein

Proteins are often called the building blocks of the body. Protein consists of combinations of structures called amino acids that combine in various ways to make muscles, bone, tendons, skin, hair, and other tissues.

They serve other functions as well including nutrient transportation and enzyme production. In fact, over 10,000 different proteins are in the body.
Adequate, regular protein intake is essential because it isn’t easily stored by the body. Various foods supply protein in varying amounts with complete proteins (those containing 8 essential amino acids) coming mostly from animal products such as meat, fish, and eggs and incomplete protein (lacking one or more essential amino acid) coming from sources like vegetables, fruit and nuts. Vegetarian athletes may have trouble getting adequate protein if they aren’t aware of how to combine foods.

Protein Needs for Athletes

Athletes need protein primarily to repair and rebuild muscle that is broken down during exercise and to help optimizes carbohydrate storage in the form of glycogen. Protein is an ideal source of fuel for exercise, but should be used with some carbs, vegetables and fruits.

Recommended Daly Protein Intake
The average adult needs 0.8 grams per kilogram (2.2lbs) of body weight per day.
Strength training athletes need about 1.4 to 1.8 grams per kilogram (2.2lbs) of body weight per day
Endurance athletes need about 1.2 to 1.4 grams per kilogram (2.2lbs) of body weight per day
How Much Protein is That?
Not much, as it turns out. Here is a list of some high protein foods.

Food, Amount, Protein

Fish, 3 oz, 21 grams
Chicken, 3 oz, 21 grams
Turkey, 3 oz, 21 grams
Meat, 3 oz, 21 grams
Milk, 8 oz, 8 grams
Tofu, 3 oz, 15 grams
Yogurt, 8 oz, 8 grams
Cheese, 3 oz, 21 grams
Peanut butter, 2 tbsp, 8 grams
Eggs, 2 large, 13 grams

Strength athletes believe more protein is important to build muscle. It turns out that strength athletes actually require higher protein intake and than most would think to fuel their workouts. It is the strength training workout that leads to increased muscle mass and strength. This is because all high intensity, powerful muscle contractions (such as weight lifting) are fueled with amino acids from protein. Neither fat nor carbohydrate can be oxidized rapidly enough to meet the demands of high-intensity exercise. Adequate dietary protein must be consumed daily to maintain a healthy athlete.

[cjm3113]

Do you know anything about the science of your body? Of course proteins build muscle, but you don't eat a few hours before a game and then have built a few pounds of muscle by game time. Carbs are the best fuel for your body because they are easily digested quickly. I don't care what your 8th grade health teacher told you.

As for asking Mike to site that again, I already showed you that caffeine causes you to urinate more frequently, in turn, dehydrating your body.

[HULK5]

When u drink an energy drink all it does instead of helping u is speed up ur heart i had a friend died because he wasnt hydrated and his heart was going to fast to handle and then the running makes ur heart goes fast enough.

[QBYattackmen15]

i have also heard of poeple dying form energy drinks because of heart failure. Sidewinder im not quite sure why you are asking EVERYONE to site thier stuff and pretty much disagreeing with everyone on what they say. some people dont just search the internet for info to post on TLF. soinme poeple just learn it/hear it. Anyway just because energy dirnks help you, they dont helpo the majority of people. for most poeple they will crash aorund 20-30 minutes later. As for me, i find my self to crash after drinking alot of it like a Monster, but not a Redbull. i dont know why. but i cnat even dirnk gatorade during games, it makes me sick and gives me stomach aches. i just go straight up water. Proven to work quite well. but i do like the Gatorade Rain. its not as overloaded with sugar and all that. or Propel is good. Its got to be promentantly water for me to perform my best.

[sidewinder19]

Do you know anything about the science of your body? Of course proteins build muscle, but you don't eat a few hours before a game and then have built a few pounds of muscle by game time. Carbs are the best fuel for your body because they are easily digested quickly. I don't care what your 8th grade health teacher told you.

As for asking Mike to site that again, I already showed you that caffeine causes you to urinate more frequently, in turn, dehydrating your body.

You have no idea what your talking about, and it is not from my "grade 8" health teacher.....

I know what I'm talking about. Did i ever say that eating a few hours before a game will build a few pounds of muscle, no. Your putting words in my mouth.

That study is BS, caffeine doesn't dehydrate you.

Again, almost all of the studies and other stuff you will find are a few years out of date. Really, this is ridiculous... I assume you are from the states? That may have something to do with your naivety to recognize other views and realize that what is spewing from your mouth is a load of crap.

i have also heard of poeple dying form energy drinks because of heart failure. Sidewinder im not quite sure why you are asking EVERYONE to site thier stuff and pretty much disagreeing with everyone on what they say. some people dont just search the internet for info to post on TLF. soinme poeple just learn it/hear it. Anyway just because energy dirnks help you, they dont helpo the majority of people. for most poeple they will crash aorund 20-30 minutes later. As for me, i find my self to crash after drinking alot of it like a Monster, but not a Redbull. i dont know why. but i cnat even dirnk gatorade during games, it makes me sick and gives me stomach aches. i just go straight up water. Proven to work quite well. but i do like the Gatorade Rain. its not as overloaded with sugar and all that. or Propel is good. Its got to be promentantly water for me to perform my best.


Yeah, of course water is the best for you, for sure. Just because you hear something do you believe it? And if no one can prove it even better reason to not believe it. I find myself not to crash at all, never mind even get a good energy buzz.

[cjm3113]

I don't know what I'm talking about? You are right. I am from the States, that gives me permission to make up whatever I want and proclaim it as true. How about this for not knowing anything..

Caffeine is diuretic (assuming you have no clue what that means, it causes you to lose extra body fluids during urination). The diuretic effect combined with sweating related to working out can result in serious dehydration making energy drinks before a game dangerous.

Carbohydrates are easily digested (as I stated) and delay fatigue (if eaten on game day a few hours before the game). Protein is a great muscle builder, but eating it before the game doesn't do anything special for your body. Before a game you should eat Carbohydrates and Protein at a 4:1 ratio.

As for your insistence on citing everything, you have yet to cite anything. You gave us one "citation" which could have easily been made up (not that I am accusing you). Plus, it is completely irrelevant to your argument. You are just telling us what protein is, nowhere in your guide does it say to eat it before a game.

[LiquidMercury16]

Sorry, you are wrong. Carbs=Bad. Don't worry about it, I know i'm right. People just don't understand. The food nutritionists/sports nutritionists...etc. are at least 3-5 years out of date. They don't start being taught it till a few years later. Seriously, i know my stuff on this, you ARE wrong. Ask a expert on spots nutrition (off the record of course) they will say what they teach is not the best.... really...yeah.



Caffeine dehydration....? again site your stuff.

Got the guide from my foods and nutrition teacher at school

It's all recent so it's up to date.

Alright LiquidMercury to the rescue. Sorry I didn't see this thread earlier everyone. Now on to my rant:

I am a sports nutritionist. I am a strength coach/sports nutritionist for 2 D1 teams. I co-own/operate a nutrition consulting firm. I also run a supplement store and am in the process of opening my own gym. Those are my credentials. I am a sports nutritionist expert.

That being said, I am definitely pro-protein in diets. I actually follow a diet that is 65% fat, 34.5% protein, .5% carbs during the week and then carb up on the weekends taking in 55% carbs, 25% fat, 20% protein. Doing this has allowed me to go from 135 lbs of nothing to 200 lbs at 7% bodyfat, coming close to breaking squat and deadlift records raw in the 161 and 187 weight lb collegiate categories. Onwards: Carbs before games are indeed a good source of energy, the preferred source of energy. Your body uses glycogen as it's primary energy source. Whether it gets glycogen from protein or carbs depends on the person's diet. If they are following low carb type diet they are going to get glycogen via glucogenesis (carb conversion) or ketogenesis (fat conversion) or phosphoglucomutase (protein conversion). Now I'm not going to get into a bunch of scientific stuff at the moment because frankly, you won't understand it without a very good understanding of biochemistry. That being said, it takes 1 step for glucogenesis to happen, while it takes 2-3 for fat/protein conversion. If the end result is the same, why not go the quickest way and the least energy costing way? The answer is, you shouldn't. Not when energy conservation/quick acting energy is necessary like it would be in a game. Should you eat a bunch of pasta? Not necessarily, only if you have pasta regularly in your diet. I recommend sticking with food that you have often. You should never change your diet up before a game thinking it's going to give you some great boost. Your body could react poorly and might effect your play.

As far as caffeine dehydrating the body? Not so much. It will make you pee more as caffeine is a diuretic but most of the time if you are taking caffeine in as a drink the drink itself replenishes the water that you are peeing out. Now if you are taking caffeine in pill form then it can dehydrate you if you aren't taking in water to replenish what you are peeing out.

"Caffeine is metabolized in the liver three dimethylxanthines, one of these is Theobromine which causes dilation of blood vessels and an increase in urine volume."

www.ific.org

[sidewinder19]

Thank you, someone finally realizes that what the others are saying is not exactly correct...

[LiquidMercury16]

Also, sidewinder ranting about the states again and flaming people on here when you yourself know nothing proves what an ignoramous you are. Please stick to the discussion instead of just saying, I'm right you're wrong. Also what you are saying isn't "exactly correct either" You are just saying carbs are bad pre-game, when in fact they are the preferred source of energy.

[sidewinder19]

I don't know what I'm talking about? You are right. I am from the States, that gives me permission to make up whatever I want and proclaim it as true. How about this for not knowing anything..

Caffeine is diuretic (assuming you have no clue what that means, it causes you to lose extra body fluids during urination). The diuretic effect combined with sweating related to working out can result in serious dehydration making energy drinks before a game dangerous.

Carbohydrates are easily digested (as I stated) and delay fatigue (if eaten on game day a few hours before the game). Protein is a great muscle builder, but eating it before the game doesn't do anything special for your body. Before a game you should eat Carbohydrates and Protein at a 4:1 ratio.

As for your insistence on citing everything, you have yet to cite anything. You gave us one "citation" which could have easily been made up (not that I am accusing you). Plus, it is completely irrelevant to your argument. You are just telling us what protein is, nowhere in your guide does it say to eat it before a game.

Your right maybe i shouldn't have assumed all americans are retarded like that. The citation thing, I don't care when i was asking for links it was because i wanted to read your side of the argument so that i could better state mine.

I highly doubt they would be dangerous before a game. If anything (going on your side of the argument) you'll have to go take a piss at half. Big deal.

It was not made up. period.

[cjm3113]

Are they dangerous for most people? Not at all. Do they bother me at all? Nope, I usually don't even crash, but the argument wasn't about me. It was Gatorade/Red Bull and at the end of the day, Gatorade is better for you to drink during/before a game.

[Lurker]

Sorry, you are wrong. Carbs=Bad. Don't worry about it, I know i'm right. People just don't understand. The food nutritionists/sports nutritionists...etc. are at least 3-5 years out of date. They don't start being taught it till a few years later. Seriously, i know my stuff on this, you ARE wrong. Ask a expert on spots nutrition (off the record of course) they will say what they teach is not the best.... really...yeah.

Jesus Christ, this is probably the most ignorant post I've ever seen on these forums. You ask everyone to cite sources, yet when you're called on your BS, you respond with "NO I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG NANANANANANA CAN'T HEAR YOU." As for your claim that all sports nutritionists are out of date, what sources do you have to back that up? Don't you think a sports nutritionist, whose wellbeing depends on having accurate, up-to-date information, would have better information on this than you, Joe Schmo Laxer, even if it were out of date? Your ignorance astounds me.

You have no idea what your talking about, and it is not from my "grade 8" health teacher.....

I know what I'm talking about. Did i ever say that eating a few hours before a game will build a few pounds of muscle, no. Your putting words in my mouth.

That study is BS, caffeine doesn't dehydrate you.

Again, almost all of the studies and other stuff you will find are a few years out of date. Really, this is ridiculous... I assume you are from the states? That may have something to do with your naivety to recognize other views and realize that what is spewing from your mouth is a load of crap.

What makes your school health teacher so different from other nutritionists that she is privy to accurate information no one else but you and her seem to have?

Again, you respond to the sources you requested with blind ignorance. Why don't you disprove his study instead of again plugging your ears and saying "CAN'T HEAR YOU I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG." Add to this your unnecessary nationalism and this makes for another wonderfully ignorant contribution. I guess being from Canada would explain it.

[sidewinder19]

Well, they're PDF's but....

second one isn't


http://nmsociety.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20&Itemid=44

http://www.proteinpower.com/

I love how the posts you quoted of me being ignorant were before Liquid jumped in and proved both of us wrong( kinda?). It's figured out, you took the things i said and put them out of context, well, stretching the boundaries of almost out of context....

[Lurker]

Well, they're PDF's but....

second one isn't


http://nmsociety.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20&Itemid=44

http://www.proteinpower.com/

I love how the posts you quoted of me being ignorant were before Liquid jumped in and proved both of us wrong( kinda?). It's figured out, you took the things i said and put them out of context, well, stretching the boundaries of almost out of context....

#1 I'm taking no stand in this thread on the health portion, so there's no room for me to be disproved by LM16. I simply took issue with your argumentative style.

#2 All but one of my quotes were your complete responses to other peoples' posts. Looking at the last quote and the rest of your posts a second time, I realize I misread you so I will edit that post. However, the other part of my post still stands.

[LiquidMercury16]

#1 I'm taking no stand in this thread on the health portion, so there's no room for me to be disproved by LM16. I simply took issue with your argumentative style.


I love that people are afraid of me hahaha.

[Lurker]

Not afraid, I just have no nutritional experience, so it's not my place to post (possibly mis)information in this thread. You, being a nutritionist, have vast amounts more of knowledge about this issue than most anyone on this forum, so arguing with you in this thread without an M.D. over my shoulder wouldn't be too smart.

[LiquidMercury16]

Well I don't have an M.D. but do have a BA at least. And sports nutrionists>regular nutritionists. I've seen moronic nutritionists in my line of work...

[leelax14]

energy drinks especially red bull get you all hyped up but then in a little while it gets you really low and you dont have much energy its only short term
on the other hand gatorade is great but to me i just wanna keep drinking it and i get more thirsty that is why WATER IS THE WAY TO GO ..gatorade pregame prevents cramps then water ingame

[ccslax6]

What about drinking Red Bull at the end of the game?

Which is better, Red Bull or Sobe Andreneline Rush?

[Laxdawg96]

lol, powerade because as you can see in my sig and avatar i am a huge bulldogs fan and therefore, HATE HATE HATE the florida gators.

edit: I really like powerade more though and even if i was a gator fan i would still go for powerade.

[LiquidMercury16]

For after a game? Neither red bull or sobe are particularly great. Get yourself some simple carbs with a bit of protein in there to help with soreness and replenishing glycogen stores.

[CPLAX08]

Usually always drink GA and water before/during/after games. But this weekend at a tourney, I had a huge can of Red Bull, and I was a ball of energy for the entire game. It really helped me. Didn't dehydrate me either. I guess it depends on the person. I can't argue that it's good for me though, anything like Red Bull cannot be good on a long term basis.

[laxplaya77]

energy drinks dont do a thing for me. idk why, after every game on sunday and after every clinic on thursday night me and my friend get the 2 liter or 64 ounce gatorades. cant go wrong with gatorade.