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LaxRef
06-14-2006, 01:37 PM
GK B1 makes the save and throws an outlet pass. Attackman A1 jumps to try to tip the pass and, while the ball is in flight, he lands in the crease. The pass is caught by B2.

What is the ruling if (1) A1 is out of the crease before the ball is caught? (2) A1 lingers and is still in the crease when the ball is caught?

Give answers for both NCAA and NFHS.

Snake~eyes
06-14-2006, 01:53 PM
I think you need to clarify that the pass was caught by a B player :)

stalls
06-14-2006, 02:01 PM
in the crease ball is awarded to GK team mll it would be different in college its a free clear

CardinalPuff
06-14-2006, 09:20 PM
1. play on....released as player b2 catches pass.

2. flag down, slow whistle as A1 is in the crease while team B has possession.....free clear, if necessary in NFHS.

JohnB-6
06-15-2006, 09:04 PM
I thought that a ball in flight does not denote possession anymore, they did away with that in 2006. So either way, it would be a play on. At least for NFHS.

LaxRef
06-15-2006, 09:18 PM
I thought that a ball in flight does not denote possession anymore, they did away with that in 2006. So either way, it would be a play on. At least for NFHS.

Ball in flight after the horn is no longer in possession in NFHS or NCAA. In NCAA, a technical foul with a ball in flight is a play on, and if it's caught the play on is over. But not so in NFHS:

During normal play, A1 makes a pass to teammate A2. While the ball is in flight, B1 commits (a) technical foul or (b) personal foul. RULING: Flag down.. If pass is completed, (a) ball is awarded to Team A; B1 serves penalty time or (b) slow whistle is used. When the whistle is blown, the ball is awarded to Team A, and B1 serves penalty time (treat as possession foul). If pass is not completed (a) whistle is blown immediately. Ball is awarded to Team A; B1 does not serve any penalty time. (b) Whistle is blown immediately. Ball is awarded to Team A, and B1 serves penalty time.

Thus, under NFHS rules, I think both (1) and (2) are flag-down technical fouls by the letter of the law. Under NCAA rules, (1) is a play-on, which ends when the ball is caught, but (2) is a time-serving technical foul.

Part of the confusion is the fuzzy nature of player possession vs. team possession; when they say "possession" it usually isn't specified which one it is.

eme
06-16-2006, 05:48 AM
Under one of my nfhs recommendations under the definitions of terms of "ball in flight" page 27 art. 7 was to insert the word "team" in the second line.
i.e. "...is aball in team possession..."