Division 2??

[celax]

I havent heard much about division 2 colleges doing much recruiting, do they?? and how much easier is it to get a scholarship in D 2 then D 1

[PBlax]

generally the rule of thumb is the farther you go down in division the less scholorships are made availble

[HdGLaxWarrior]

Go for DIII, more competition.

[midnitecruiser]

i think DII is for kids that like team names like the dolphins
otherwise i dont see y u would want to play DII

[Ryan37416]

theres not even 40 teams in D2, and the bracket this year was 4 teams, Its still a good level of lacrosse but D3 is better.

[laxplaya9]

D2 schools do a lot of recruiting and are ussually more willing to give you a partial athletic and partial academic scholarship.

[GIattack]

about the scholarships, from what i understand, Div II gets a little cloudy. Yes, there are scholarships available at Div II schools. However, if you are a D2 team in a D3 conference, you can't give athletic scholarships. But, if you're an independent, or part of a Div I conference, you can. so even though they are recruting, its not gonna be easy to find a school u like that can give a lacrosse scholarship.

[i live 4 lax]

just wondering... are D3 schools generally better than D2 schools? i know D1 is the best u can get but im little cloudy on the D3, D2 part.

[smooth87]

The rule of thumb is that the top 5-10 D3 teams can hang with the top 5-10 D2 and some lower end D1 teams. Colleges that are D3 are only D3 because of title 9 and a lack of funding.

[raykessler]

as far as i understand it D3 is better then D2, the reason for that being (iv heard) that people dont want to go to middle sized school(which most D2 schools are), people either want to go to a large school (D1) or a small school (D3).

[kamera]

as far as i understand it D3 is better then D2, the reason for that being (iv heard) that people dont want to go to middle sized school(which most D2 schools are), people either want to go to a large school (D1) or a small school (D3).

also not a lot of D2 schools have great academics...most lacrosse guys want to get a good education, so they will go to places in D3 that have a better reputation and are more selective.

[AngryLongStick]

You guys knock D2 lacrosse, but apart from maybe the top five D3 schools, D2 schools can whoop on all of them. Even bottom rung D1 schools can whoop on most of D2. There just aren't that many D2 schools in any sport though, because of the way it works. Most go D1 or just stay D3 for fiscial reasons.

[i live 4 lax]

You guys knock D2 lacrosse, but apart from maybe the top five D3 schools, D2 schools can whoop on all of them. Even bottom rung D1 schools can whoop on most of D2. There just aren't that many D2 schools in any sport though, because of the way it works. Most go D1 or just stay D3 for fiscial reasons.
yea your right. bottom rung D1 schools can whoop on most of D2. ive done a little research, and D3 as a whole is better than D2.

[Mustangs21]

Ya either Div. I or Div. III is the way to go. I don't think theres any players playing in the MLL that are from Div. II schools.

[AngryLongStick]

MLL is a farce. The thing with D2, is a lot of the D2 schools are down south, up north or in some obscure location, so they don't get a whole lot of respect. If there were more D2 schools, there would be more respect for them. I know guys that play D2 and D3 and the guys that play D2 are definately better than the D3 guys. Maybe not as bookwormish, but much better on the field/physically.

[WHEELAX2]

i think DII is for kids that like team names like the dolphins
otherwise i dont see y u would want to play DII


um.. I played d2

[GoRocks]

There are some serious players in D2. A lot of guys got slept on or went to a small or bad school, or couldn't afford to travel to big camps, so they slipped through the cracks. For some, it is a financial thing, getting more money from D2 than D1. Look at a guy like Garrett Billings. If his Starsia hadn't called around for a favour he never would have heard about him, and he had only a couple schools after him, namely Notre Dame De Namur. That's a big difference in schools, but one of the premier freshmen in the country almost ended up in D2. How often does that happen? Probably a lot. D2 might not have the deepest teams, but don't think all the players are bad, because they aren't. And while they might not go to the MLL all that often, they do go to the NLL often, a league requiring more skill and and a hell of a lot more toughness.

[Lionslaxer1]

i think DII is for kids that like team names like the dolphins
otherwise i dont see y u would want to play DII


thars cold man. d2 is still competitive. dont have to dis it. i play d2 also. :hot: they also do a lot of recruiting and do give some small scholarships

[LymanLax28]

thars cold man. d2 is still competitive. dont have to dis it. i play d2 also. :hot: they also do a lot of recruiting and do give some small scholarships
Were you one of the Saint Leo's guys playing at the pick up game on friday?

[AZlax9]

wait... so can DII schools give athletic scholarships like DI?

[WHEELAX2]

also not a lot of D2 schools have great academics...most lacrosse guys want to get a good education, so they will go to places in D3 that have a better reputation and are more selective.


are you kidding me? a lot of D2 schools are private and have very high academic standards...

[LymanLax28]

wait... so can DII schools give athletic scholarships like DI?
Yes, DIII is the only one (other than the Ivies) that can't give athletic scholarships.

[WHEELAX2]

There are some serious players in D2. A lot of guys got slept on or went to a small or bad school, or couldn't afford to travel to big camps, so they slipped through the cracks. For some, it is a financial thing, getting more money from D2 than D1. Look at a guy like Garrett Billings. If his Starsia hadn't called around for a favour he never would have heard about him, and he had only a couple schools after him, namely Notre Dame De Namur. That's a big difference in schools, but one of the premier freshmen in the country almost ended up in D2. How often does that happen? Probably a lot. D2 might not have the deepest teams, but don't think all the players are bad, because they aren't. And while they might not go to the MLL all that often, they do go to the NLL often, a league requiring more skill and and a hell of a lot more toughness.


well put.. I have a lot of fellow D2 friends who could have played pretty much anywhere.

[Eclipse]

DIII being better then DII has nothing to do with guys wanting to go to smaller or larger schools, or even academics for that matter. The only reason the overall skill level, and amount of teams in DIII is greater is because it has been around, alot longer. DII is fairly new, it used to just be DI and III.

But DIII is a little more competitive AS A WHOLE. The top teams in any division are gonna be about the same, aside from the slight advantage DI teams will have, of course they are better.

And on the scholarship thing, DII can give scholarships but, most of the time opt not too unless you are a very quality recruit. Then they will give you academic mostly, some financial aid, and a little bit of athletic if you need it to make the hump.

[i live 4 lax]

are there any MLL players that have gone to D3 colleges?

[ReLaxin 13]

are there any MLL players that have gone to D3 colleges?

There are a few, there is an artical on the main MLL website about Justin Smith and Eric Martin, both grads of Salisbury. Josh Bergey for the Machine also went to Salisbury, those are just a few, there are alot more.

[TitanLax]

^^^Jeff Bigas...and i believe some naz and maybe some middlebury guys? or maybe that's wrong

[tribal803]

Neal Anderson of the Boston Cannons went to Merrimack College, a DII school, for two years. "a successful lacrosse player at both UNH and Merrimack…2000 Division II All-American…2000 Academic All-American…North/South All-Star Game participant in 2000…Scored over 100 points in two years at Merrimack College."-bostoncannons.com

obviously this guy is pretty good but hes only played in 4 games from 2002-2005 and only got 2 ground balls. Hopefully that gives you an idea of the difference between a DII player and a DI player.

[Eclipse]

Injuries maybe? There not going to draft him if he sucks.

[stinisonfire]

If you are not in college, or don't go to a school that is D2 or D3, you have no right to talk about how they are academically and probably shouldn't say anything else in this discussion.

[tribal803]

who are you referring to?

[stinisonfire]

I'm referring to anyone who said something along the lines of whatshisface when he said this

"also not a lot of D2 schools have great academics...most lacrosse guys want to get a good education, so they will go to places in D3 that have a better reputation and are more selective."

Or anyone in high school / middle school talking about selections and how hard a school is without even stepping foot on a campus.

I don't think there are more than 2-3 public D2 schools, btw. More selective than a private school? I don't think so.

[Eclipse]

Haha and ironically the top 2 teams in D3 were public!

[atakakiller3014]

Tom Zummo plays for the Dragons and went to NYIT a Div 2 school.

[laxpro]

are there any MLL players that have gone to D3 colleges?
Stephen Berger, Long Island Lizards.

[UNCdefense]

Ya all you kids that are like D2 schools suck kill me....Lacrosse is lacrosse no matter where you play...Whether it be club ball at UNC Charlotte or D1 at Duke...As some of the odler guys that actually go to college right now have said shut your faces if you don't know what your talking about...& as far as the any D3 players in the MLL..I can't name any right off the top of my head but the best defenseman in the nation in 98'(I believe) went to Salisbury (Brendan Belotte). He had offers to anywhere he wanted...I know another guy who was aided in way or another (I don't know the technical terms all I know is they were paying for him to play) to play D for Hampden Sydney last year but he didn't like it up there so he transferred back to ASU & now plays for their club team. He just wanted to come back home..some guys make college choices for personal reasons/benefits & not soley on lacrosse

[Nreeder33]

the 3rd string goalie for denver played club lax at CSU..

IMO, D3 has 10 teams that are very deep, skilled, many heavily recruited players go to them for one reason or the other (Academics,Money,Less pressure, and many more) but there are like 150 teams in d3. Ranging from Middlebury and Sailsbury, to umass-boston and misercorida. Not saying anything bad about any school the skill level is so different from top to bottom in d3.


D2 has less than half the teams, and maybe the top 2 or 3 can play with the top 5-10 of d3. But the rest of d2 pretty much dystroys the bottom 110. This being very general as any team can win and lose. (washington and lee a fairly decent d3 beats VMI a horrible d1) (Colorado Collge loses to BYU (a club team)).

[CTLaxer]

The rule of thumb is that the top 5-10 D3 teams can hang with the top 5-10 D2 and some lower end D1 teams. Colleges that are D3 are only D3 because of title 9 and a lack of funding.

This statement is wrong in it's entirety, FYI

[SawyerLaxGirl44]

Alright, I don't know much, but I am goin to be a Freshman next year in a DII school that has been recruited. Which division is better??? Who the heck cares!! Lacrosse is lacrosse, playing is playing, expecially if you love the sport. And whoever said that DII doesn't give scholarships or isn't as competitive academics wise, has GOT to be kidding me. Aren't most DII schools private, therefore having more money to give out and better ratings??? IDK, I think this discussion is rediculous, because it doesn't matter where you play, as long as you're doing what you love!!!




FYI-That's exactly what I'm doing :-)

[Laxer1212]

Lacrosse is Lacrosse man there are great players across every division....im playin lax at C.W.post next year man and im damn excitited.....i got noticed late didnt get a lot of exposure but had options to go to top D3 programs like Cortland and Nazerath..but i didnt want to go that far away from home....Hofstra and stonybrook already used up all of there money so i decided to go to post because i was getting a scholarship.........and post has an excellent education program thats also why i went there................


here it is in a nutshell.....D2 only has like 38 teams but the top 8 can ball man.....D3 has like 130 teams and the top 25-30 are great teams....and u guys know the story with D1 but anyway because of D2s small numbers there arent as much good D2 teams as D3 teams but dont say that D2 doesnt have guys that could play D1 or D3.......if u love the game it shouldnt matter...respect the game at all its levels because where all in the same boat of trying to get lacrosse more exposed across the country



-just lax-

[Guyute Lax]

Adelphi's been recruiting from Australia for like 20 years.

[I Am Legend]

I bet almost all of you saying DII schools suck could NEVER get accepted to half of these DII schools. I will most likely play DII if I decide against NYU, and look forward to top notch academics as well as competitive lacrosse that Division II schools have to offer.

[Lax_Hitman]

NYU is DII?

[nelax]

When did NYU decide to go DII? I thought it was only a club.

[I Am Legend]

When did NYU decide to go DII? I thought it was only a club.

yeah hahaha i totally realized what i posted this morning. I was trying to say if i dont go to NYU i will probably play DII lacrosse

[Chaplax18]

generally the rule of thumb is the farther you go down in division the less scholorships are made availble

thats a crappy thing to say man.

[mass_elite21]

some DII schools are just as good as the top notch d3s and d1s! I know that in the stonehill girl's fall ball they play all divisions are equal to a good number of them...people need to know their s#$% before they open their mouths...theyre misinforming some and im sure angering d2 players who worked hard to get where they are today

[jkriz45]

im cloudy on the d2 d3 thing to my bro got letters and calls from 1 or 2 d1 skools alot of d3 and some d2 which is better d2 or d3

[aussielax]

Adelphi's been recruiting from Australia for like 20 years.

Yeah and i'm really suprised nobody else has really followed in their footsteps, Because there is heaps of un-tapped talent down here.

[richlax5]

The difference between many Div I, II, and III schools is depth. The top 5-10 D II and III schools can go three lines deep at Mid and usually have another 2-3 attack and D-Men, but fall off after that. This is the same phenomena that exists when one talks about the Top 20 Div I schools and the lowers schools, which comes down to the number of academic scholarships a league allows a team to give out.
When it comes to Academics, ultimately a college gives a name, but if you don't do your job that name means nothing for you. The Division II schools are quality schools academically, but may not want to sink a ton of money into their lacrosse programs.
One final note, the scholarship idea for teams that are Div I in one sprort and Div III in another, Hopkins in Lacrosse, and Union College and RPI in Hockey, can give Atheltic Scholarships to the atheletes on those teams.

[jjmoto]

which is the order of skill for sports d1 then what

[cali feeder]

which is the order of skill for sports d1 then what

For lacrosse, its D1, then D3, then D2. Which is quite odd.

[dragoncoach]

Lacrosse is growing nationwide, and many Div II schools are tapping into the sport of lacrosse, both M and W. Reason?
There are two.
1- Lacrosse had some of the best statistics in graduation among varsity athletes.
2- Alumni who played a varsity sport tend to be more giving to the school.