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enjoi
07-10-2006, 11:22 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/09/eveningnews/main1786860.shtml?source=RSS&attr=U.S._1786860
This gives me so much hope honestly. I never saw Conservatives as being representative of the teachings of christ anyways so hopefully they gain some political sway.

From somebody at Newsvine.com:
'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'[b] 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'[c] 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments." -Matthew 22:38 - 40

More Christian Left reading: http://www.prospect.org/web/printfriendly-view.ww?id=7572
Also please Digg this article:http://www.digg.com/politics/Religion_Taking_A_Left_Turn/

Bone_ThugZ
07-10-2006, 11:24 PM
Have to log in to read this.

Formerlaxdemon
07-10-2006, 11:40 PM
...last time I checked the greatest commandment was the first, "thou shalt have no other god before Me." But... to stay on your topic, the Matthew reading comes from Deuteronomy 6:5 which was central to Jewish liturgy and life and is also the core of the Shema. The bit about loving your neighbour comes from Leviticus 19:18 which is pretty much Mosaic Law.

We can't read the article by the way. So I have no idea in what context you are placing these passages. As for religion being political? It shouldn't.

As for the supposed separation of church and state, can't see that coming up as it doesn't exist.

Maybe it is slamming Bush? I seriously doubt that everything (anything would have been too far of a stretch even for me an my wild accusations) ANY elected official has done has been pure or even good for his or her fellow man. Humans make mistakes. Fact of life. The thing you are told to do is forgive, unless we are going to follow Levitical Law in which case many heads will need to roll.

enjoi
07-10-2006, 11:43 PM
We can't read the article by the way. So I have no idea in what context you are placing these passages. As for religion being political? It shouldn't. First post was updated

NHDSlax
07-10-2006, 11:45 PM
"The majority are mainline Protestants."



...figures.

ColtsLax
07-10-2006, 11:49 PM
Why dont we just ask a liberal guy why the "christian left" is the better way, Hmmm, a little biased, No?

Now it seems as though it is an attractive thing in Washington to resort to war in the very early stage of resolving an altercation; a completely unnecessary war that President Bush decided to launch against the Iraqis is an example of that. And I think that a reaction against that warlike attitude on the part of America to the exclusion of almost all other nations in the world -- and arousing fear in them -- is going to be a driving issue.
What war is an example of this besides Iraq?

because most of the people most strongly committed to the Republican philosophy have adopted the proposition that help for the rich is the best way to help even poor peopleMisrepresents the Republican party, again...

And it has resulted in these last few years with a terrible, very costly, and bloody deterioration in the relationship between Israel and its neighbors. So is he trying to blame Bush for the election of Hamas? up until then things were going as normal as they can be in Israel.

All of this coming from arugably the worst president in US history. Stick to farming peanuts Jim.

Oh, and i did a little digging for info about the author of the Prospect article, Ayelish McGarvey, and lets just say she is not a huge fan of Bush. She writes for publications that proclaim themselves "the flagship of the left" and of liberal ideas, committed to a just society, an enriched democracy, and effective liberal politics"

ColtsLax
07-10-2006, 11:51 PM
...unless we are going to follow Levitical Law in which case many heads will need to roll.
Leviticus was always my favorite book of the bible. I also think God needs to start smiteing more people, that would show those Atheists :devil:

BTlaxripper
07-11-2006, 01:10 AM
All of this coming from arugably the worst president in US history. Stick to farming peanuts Jim.

Not arguably. It's a fact.
Right up there with LBJ and FDR.

It's hard to be Christian AND Left -- when leftists believe in pro-choice AND to legalize gay marriage (marriage is a sacrement by the way) -- the fact that people even propose legalizing gay MARRIAGE is a breach on the separation of church and state. So who's being unconstitutional here?

Pope: abortion = wrong
Pope: gay marriage = wrong
Left "Christians" = who cares, as long as we call ourselves Christians we might garner some right wing votes.

keep dreaming.

ColtsLax
07-11-2006, 01:13 AM
Not arguably. It's a fact.
Right up there with LBJ and FDR.

It's hard to be Christian AND Left -- when leftists believe in pro-choice AND to legalize gay marriage (marriage is a sacrement by the way) -- the fact that people even propose legalizing gay MARRIAGE is a breach on the separation of church and state. So who's being unconstitutional here?

Pope: abortion = wrong
Pope: gay marriage = wrong
Left "Christians" = who cares, as long as we call ourselves Christians we might garner some right wing votes.

keep dreaming.
well, these are protestants, so they dont listen to the pope, they make their own rules when it suits them.

and saying your a left christian makes it to easy to rip a person apart in a debate, why do you think Kerry didn't mention it?

BTlaxripper
07-11-2006, 01:16 AM
well, these are protestants, so they dont listen to the pope, they make their own rules when it suits them.

and saying your a left christian makes it to easy to rip a person apart in a debate, why do you think Kerry didn't mention it?

True with your first comment. I'm not a protestant so I'm not sure on their beliefs... but I would ASSUME that the huge chunk of them agree with most points of the Catholic Church in the sense that abortion and gay marriage are wrong.

And being Catholic is Christian, so just because the writer is Protestant doesn't mean that these "Christian" Left people are only Protestant.

NHDSlax
07-11-2006, 01:27 AM
And being Catholic is Christian, so just because the writer is Protestant doesn't mean that these "Christian" Left people are only Protestant.


The article said the majority were Protestants. No surprise. This is the Christian denomination that gave us the Orange Order. Protestants always try to stir things up. Any Christian group supporting abortion is not right IMO.

TheKOB
07-12-2006, 09:31 AM
And being Catholic is Christian, so just because the writer is Protestant doesn't mean that these "Christian" Left people are only Protestant.

I believe the phrase used is "cafeteria catholics" since they like to pick and choose which beliefs they want to support and which ones they don't (most popular is abortion).