riddlebox
07-20-2006, 06:27 PM
ok. so you noticed you have whip and/or lip in your head, and you want it out, but you dont know how. This is the thread for you to learn how to get it out. First off, lets define lip and whip (in lacrosse terms).
LIP- When the ball hits the tip of the head going out of the pocket, and you can feel the "tick" off of the plastic. Most lacrosse players dont like lip, but it is all preference. Lip can be compared to hitting a speed bump in a road.http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3744/torque5rk.png
that is a picture of the places a ball hits when a stick has "lip"
WHIP- When the ball comes out of the pocket without lip, but goes straight into the ground. Again, not too many lacrosse players like whip. Whip can be basically compared to going down a hill in a car, but you really wanted to go straight.
GETTING RID OF LIP
There are many different ways to get rid of lip. To start, you will want to tighten all the strings on your stick, especially your topstring. Than tighten your top shooter as tight as possible, and than make the rest gradually looser.
OPTION 1: Pull your mesh as far up the scoop as possible without going over it. Put your topstring through, and the lip should be gone. If not, put a few more in. There should be no more than 3.
OPTION 2: Put a REALLY tight nylon over your last shooter and close to the scoop of the head. This is probably the best way to get rid of lip.
OPTION 3: Put a "U" or "V" string in the head. This can get rid of lip, but can sometimes be inconsistent.
OPTION 4: Take a knife and shave the scoop of your head down so it isnt as "tall" as it was before. The con about this is that it ruins your warranty of the head, and it can sometimes break the head.
I hope that helped you get rid of lip.
GETTING RID OF WHIP
Unlike getting rid of lip, there are only a few ways to get rid of whip. AGain, you want to make sure your sidewalls are tight, and your topstring is tight.
OPTION 1: Take your bottom string and move it up 1 or 2 rows of mesh. Tie it back as usuall. This will make your pocket smaller, but will almost certainly get rid of the whip.
OPTION 2: Loosen your bottom shooter so it is the loosest shooter on the head. If that doesnt work, add a "U" string. The whip should be gone.
OPTION 3: If you have soft mesh in your head, take it out and put in hard mesh or any type of coated mesh with the exception of american. Soft mesh is already whippy, and if it gets wet it will become even more so. The only disadvantage is that soft mesh has good shot speed, but that can be replaced.
I hope that helped
GETTING LIP
For the few of you who want lip, here you go
OPTION 1: Loosen your topstring so that the mesh isnt touching the head at the top. That should give you the tick off the plastic you are looking for.
OPTION 2:Simply loosen all your shooting strings, and take out any nylons you have.
again, i hope this helped
GETTING WHIP
For those of you who want whip, this is for you.
OPTION 1: Make a deep pocket about 1 1/4 deep. THis should give you whip.
OPTION 2: Tighten all of your shooters as tight as possible. This can give you whip easily.
OPTION 3: Make your pocket right under the tight shooters so that when you throw, the ball is already under the bottom shooter and throws down.
I hope this gets you what you wanted.
Pictures of some of the things i explained will be up as soon as i switch computers. If you have any questions, pm me. If you have anything to add, say it in this thread and i will add them.
LIP- When the ball hits the tip of the head going out of the pocket, and you can feel the "tick" off of the plastic. Most lacrosse players dont like lip, but it is all preference. Lip can be compared to hitting a speed bump in a road.http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3744/torque5rk.png
that is a picture of the places a ball hits when a stick has "lip"
WHIP- When the ball comes out of the pocket without lip, but goes straight into the ground. Again, not too many lacrosse players like whip. Whip can be basically compared to going down a hill in a car, but you really wanted to go straight.
GETTING RID OF LIP
There are many different ways to get rid of lip. To start, you will want to tighten all the strings on your stick, especially your topstring. Than tighten your top shooter as tight as possible, and than make the rest gradually looser.
OPTION 1: Pull your mesh as far up the scoop as possible without going over it. Put your topstring through, and the lip should be gone. If not, put a few more in. There should be no more than 3.
OPTION 2: Put a REALLY tight nylon over your last shooter and close to the scoop of the head. This is probably the best way to get rid of lip.
OPTION 3: Put a "U" or "V" string in the head. This can get rid of lip, but can sometimes be inconsistent.
OPTION 4: Take a knife and shave the scoop of your head down so it isnt as "tall" as it was before. The con about this is that it ruins your warranty of the head, and it can sometimes break the head.
I hope that helped you get rid of lip.
GETTING RID OF WHIP
Unlike getting rid of lip, there are only a few ways to get rid of whip. AGain, you want to make sure your sidewalls are tight, and your topstring is tight.
OPTION 1: Take your bottom string and move it up 1 or 2 rows of mesh. Tie it back as usuall. This will make your pocket smaller, but will almost certainly get rid of the whip.
OPTION 2: Loosen your bottom shooter so it is the loosest shooter on the head. If that doesnt work, add a "U" string. The whip should be gone.
OPTION 3: If you have soft mesh in your head, take it out and put in hard mesh or any type of coated mesh with the exception of american. Soft mesh is already whippy, and if it gets wet it will become even more so. The only disadvantage is that soft mesh has good shot speed, but that can be replaced.
I hope that helped
GETTING LIP
For the few of you who want lip, here you go
OPTION 1: Loosen your topstring so that the mesh isnt touching the head at the top. That should give you the tick off the plastic you are looking for.
OPTION 2:Simply loosen all your shooting strings, and take out any nylons you have.
again, i hope this helped
GETTING WHIP
For those of you who want whip, this is for you.
OPTION 1: Make a deep pocket about 1 1/4 deep. THis should give you whip.
OPTION 2: Tighten all of your shooters as tight as possible. This can give you whip easily.
OPTION 3: Make your pocket right under the tight shooters so that when you throw, the ball is already under the bottom shooter and throws down.
I hope this gets you what you wanted.
Pictures of some of the things i explained will be up as soon as i switch computers. If you have any questions, pm me. If you have anything to add, say it in this thread and i will add them.