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tomtom
03-10-2007, 01:16 AM
Agoura-10
NP- 7

:(

LAX_Conejo
03-10-2007, 01:17 AM
Very sloppy first half 2-2

cali feeder
03-10-2007, 03:17 AM
Agoura-10
NP- 7

:(

Thats a good fight though. Only losing by three to the second best team in the league is pretty darn good. You should be proud of that.

Any standout players from Agoura? How was their defense?

socalax
03-10-2007, 06:36 PM
Thats a good fight though. Only losing by three to the second best team in the league is pretty darn good. You should be proud of that.

Any standout players from Agoura? How was their defense?
They have no standout players. Nice job NP for stickin with them.

tomtom
03-10-2007, 06:56 PM
We did well until I think the 4th quarter, up until then the biggest lead they had was by one point, we were leading by 2 for a while too. Im mostly happy with our first quarter, both as a team and personally.

cali feeder
03-10-2007, 10:00 PM
They have no standout players. Nice job NP for stickin with them.

Haha I know what you mean, I meant was there anyone that did particularly well?

EDIT: And did they run their circle offense against you guys?

tomtom
03-10-2007, 10:11 PM
Hogg did nice, he's got a nice outside shot that worked well for him. And their fogo did nicely as well.

They did run their bagel, luckily we were ready for that. We've been practicing against a bagel for several weeks already, even touched upon it before the season opener.

cali feeder
03-10-2007, 10:29 PM
Hogg did nice, he's got a nice outside shot that worked well for him. And their fogo did nicely as well.

They did run their bagel, luckily we were ready for that. We've been practicing against a bagel for several weeks already, even touched upon it before the season opener.

Hows Hogg's off-hand? From what I've seen, all he's got is his left, but I thought I'd get your perspective.

How exactly do they score from their bagel? Just dodge? Or cuts, or backside passes?

LAX_Conejo
03-10-2007, 10:44 PM
What's a bagel regarding lacrosse?

cali feeder
03-10-2007, 10:46 PM
What's a bagel regarding lacrosse?

The "bagel" as TomTom describes it, is Agoura's Circle offense, with no crease-man. Looks like a 1-2-2-1. I really don't know how they score, unless they've got an extremely good outside shooter, because cuts would be too easy to guard, and the backside pass is real hard to get open unless there's a crease guy making himself a threat.

EDIT: I see how it could work on maybe a man-up situation, because the slide would most likely be coma or cross-crease. But not on 6 v 6.

LAX_Conejo
03-10-2007, 11:12 PM
There was a crease player a lot of the time yesterday. #22 was in the crease a lot but most of the passes to him missed or were dropped. If #22 got half of the passes to him in front of the goal, it would have been a blowout. At least 10 passes to him, with him wide open, never were handled correctly. The team as a whole, Agoura, had a lot of shots that hit the ground way too short and took off over the goal

cali feeder
03-10-2007, 11:19 PM
There was a crease player a lot of the time yesterday. #22 was in the crease a lot but most of the passes to him missed or were dropped. If #22 got half of the passes to him in front of the goal, it would have been a blowout. At least 10 passes to him, with him wide open, never were handled correctly. The team as a whole, Agoura, had a lot of shots that hit the ground way too short and took off over the goal

Well thats good to know. I'm looking forward to playing them, but I already gotta worry about Woodbridge tomorrow.

tomtom
03-11-2007, 01:09 AM
The advantage with a circle is that a drive can occur from any location. The objective is to draw the defense out to pressure the ball carrier and his adjacent passes, then cut when they are spread thin. Since you do not have to take the ball to a particular position to start the drive, you have the advantage of being able to move quickly. Unfortunately in Agoura's case, dropped passes and missed shots don't do well with a circle. Hogg, however, made off quite nicely with it.

From a defense prespective, we pressured the man on ball and his two adjacent passes, forcing the long(and consequently dropped) passes, and frequent outlets to the man behind. The slide came from crease, with those not pressuring a man strung into the center to shut down any cutters. The only problem comes from a strong outside shot from top, which we encountered. Even then, a quick reacting crease defender making his slide can step into the shot, which happened a few times.(Note to any poles out there- take it in the helmet if you're wearing those adams sps...)Ouch.

cali feeder
03-11-2007, 01:13 AM
The advantage with a circle is that a drive can occur from any location. The objective is to draw the defense out to pressure the ball carrier and his adjacent passes, then cut when they are spread thin. Since you do not have to take the ball to a particular position to start the drive, you have the advantage of being able to move quickly. Unfortunately in Agoura's case, dropped passes and missed shots don't do well with a circle. Hogg, however, made off quite nicely with it.

From a defense prespective, we pressured the man on ball and his two adjacent passes, forcing the long(and consequently dropped) passes, and frequent outlets to the man behind. The slide came from crease, with those not pressuring a man strung into the center to shut down any cutters. The only problem comes from a strong outside shot from top, which we encountered. Even then, a quick reacting crease defender making his slide can step into the shot, which happened a few times.(Note to any poles out there- take it in the helmet if you're wearing those adams sps...)Ouch.

Thanks very much for the info. Definetly sounds like it worked, considering you only lost by three to a good team. Thankfully our defense has all been playing 4+ years, and are very adept at slides. I think if we can shut down Hogg and Cammorata, we'll have a good shot at winning.

tomtom
03-11-2007, 01:24 AM
The defense we used is real easy to pick up, I got it all down in one practice. They went dueces a few times as well, but stuck mainly to a circle.

laxman 9990
03-11-2007, 03:20 AM
well we lost to Huntington by 1, but i forgot the score. we just totally got out coached, and our coach didnt adjust to stop # 21 who scored 10 goals. i usually dont complain about the refs, but man they missed a ton of calls. we both played well , but i definately think we could beat them

cali feeder
03-11-2007, 12:10 PM
well we lost to Huntington by 1, but i forgot the score. we just totally got out coached, and our coach didnt adjust to stop # 21 who scored 10 goals. i usually dont complain about the refs, but man they missed a ton of calls. we both played well , but i definately think we could beat them

10 Goals?!?!?! My goodness. Sounds like your coach is kind of ignorant...but I'm not one to point fingers.

FHS_D-POLE
03-11-2007, 01:27 PM
foothill-7 la costa canyon-6...........we won yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaah!

raaaay29
03-11-2007, 03:00 PM
That was a goood game. You guys came back well there at the end. Good job.

tomtom
03-11-2007, 07:22 PM
Newbury 8 TO 3
SB 13 Calabasas 8
(JV)
Newbury 7 Newbury+TO+SB 8
^^^Craziest game ever...

LAX_Conejo
03-11-2007, 08:52 PM
Good to see TO with some goals. tomtom, do you think you can beat SB the second time around? Don't have scores but Agoura lost to Granite Bay and Oak Park beat Woodbridge

cali feeder
03-11-2007, 09:37 PM
We (Oak Park) beat Woodbridge 10 - 5. We played really crappy the first three quarters then turned it on in the fourth.

Agoura lost, and I'm assuming Westlake beat Dana Hills.

tomtom
03-11-2007, 09:59 PM
I know we can beat SB if we play a good game. And you never know, if we caught agoura on an off day and we played some great lacrosse we might have a chance against them.

A bit off topic, but to the rest of you SLCA guys, does anybody on your teams have any interest in a fall/summer box league?

LAX_Conejo
03-12-2007, 12:06 AM
How did Westlake do?

socalax
03-12-2007, 12:26 AM
How did Westlake do?
Westlake 14
Dana Hills 4

tomtom
03-12-2007, 12:33 AM
^^ Nice. Anybody know how good Jr. Riptide is?

socalax
03-12-2007, 12:36 AM
yea we played good, got 8 points, barraza had 7, all in three quarters, anyone know jow agoura did??

tomtom
03-12-2007, 12:40 AM
Agoura lost. schneikies...8 points and 7 points...

EDIT: fixed mistake.

LAX_Conejo
03-12-2007, 12:43 AM
Does Westlake have any tough games outside our league?

westlakelax17
03-12-2007, 12:54 AM
Does Westlake have any tough games outside our league?


Im not sure, we may have some in the O.C. tournament.

LAX_Conejo
03-12-2007, 01:36 AM
Is it just a six team tournament?

socalax
03-12-2007, 04:23 PM
only OP, Agoura and Westlake are invited to the OC tourney

LAX_Conejo
03-12-2007, 04:40 PM
I know that but who is invited from OC? 3 teams or 5?

socalax
03-13-2007, 12:24 AM
maybe only 3 also, but im not sure,i think there will be norcal club teams there also...

LAX_Conejo
03-14-2007, 01:02 AM
Agoura score??

3rdPersonPlural
03-14-2007, 12:05 PM
Agoura won something like 12-8.

socalax
03-14-2007, 10:10 PM
OMG, Agoura is SO overrated...and cant believe we lost to them

tomtom
03-14-2007, 10:36 PM
Well its not like calabasas is some great victory anyways.

GOLAX7
03-14-2007, 10:42 PM
Hey cali feeder what school do you play for?????? im #45,JV, Freshman and we are 3-0 at the moment

3rdPersonPlural
03-14-2007, 10:48 PM
Cali plays for Oak Park. Varsity

cali feeder
03-14-2007, 11:39 PM
Hey cali feeder what school do you play for?????? im #45,JV, Freshman and we are 3-0 at the moment

I play for the Oak Park varisty team. We're 3-0 too, our last win being against Woodbridge, 10-5.

It seems that Agoura is overrated.

LAX_Conejo
03-15-2007, 12:06 AM
:dummy: I would not call them overrated. This early into the season and nothing is making sence.

Agoura beat Westlake
Westlake beat Dana Hill
Great Oaks beat Agoura
Dana Hill beat Great Oaks

Still too hard to tell where anyone is

3rdPersonPlural
03-15-2007, 12:50 AM
It seems that Agoura is overrated.

I dunno about that. It was pretty clear that Agoura was the better team and going to win when the score was 5-3, and it had gotten to 12-6 late in the 4th before Calabasas took advantage of some deep benchers and some generous calls to make the game look respectable.

Agoura is a few passes 6 inches lower and slides a half beat earlier away from being a force in Conejo. They have good coaching. They have some real talent.

LAX_Conejo
03-15-2007, 01:03 AM
I dunno about that.
Agoura is a few passes 6 inches lower and slides a half beat earlier away from being a force in Conejo. They have good coaching. They have some real talent.

Have you ref'd Westlake or Oak Park, what is your opinion on them. Is Santa Barbara the sleeper team?

cali feeder
03-15-2007, 01:14 AM
I dunno about that. It was pretty clear that Agoura was the better team and going to win when the score was 5-3, and it had gotten to 12-6 late in the 4th before Calabasas took advantage of some deep benchers and some generous calls to make the game look respectable.

Agoura is a few passes 6 inches lower and slides a half beat earlier away from being a force in Conejo. They have good coaching. They have some real talent.

True, true. They just need to take advantage of that talent.

LAX_Conejo
03-15-2007, 10:56 AM
http://www.venturacountystar.com/vcs/vcpreps/article/0,1375,VCS_136_5416890,00.html

3rdPersonPlural
03-15-2007, 11:47 AM
Have you ref'd Westlake or Oak Park, what is your opinion on them. Is Santa Barbara the sleeper team?

I watched the end of the Oak Park game against TO because I was doing the following game. You can't tell much about a team when the starters are gulping gatorade on the bench, but I'll see more of them this weekend. I haven't seen anything of Westlake yet. but I have the 2 games after their game against SB this weekend, so I'll probably catch part of the 4th.

SB apparently has some of the best players in the league but lacks depth. That makes them dangerous but not reliably so.

GOLAX7
03-15-2007, 04:58 PM
I play for the Oak Park varisty team. We're 3-0 too, our last win being against Woodbridge, 10-5.

It seems that Agoura is overrated.

thats cool we beat woodbridge 7-3 , i agree with you on agoura... have u played long beach yet

LAX_Conejo
03-15-2007, 05:03 PM
thats cool we beat woodbridge 7-3 , i agree with you on agoura... have u played long beach yet

What team are you? When did you beat Woodbridge? Shows they are 4-1

cali feeder
03-15-2007, 08:55 PM
thats cool we beat woodbridge 7-3 , i agree with you on agoura... have u played long beach yet

Woodbridge is 4-1...whatever. Who do you play for?

EDIT: Forgot you were on JV. I was looking at varsity scores/rankings.

We don't play Long Beach. Are they coming to the OC tourney?

laxman 9990
03-15-2007, 09:03 PM
well tomorrow we play trabuco hills, which should be a win, and apperantely i dont start anymore because im not as agressive as the coach wants even thought i have the best stick skills and can go lefty and righty better than anyone on my team.(thats the truth,not trying to be cocky). so tomorrow im am just gonna come out hitting.

3rdPersonPlural
03-15-2007, 09:49 PM
apparently i dont start anymore......so tomorrow im am just gonna come out hitting.

Whoa, dude! No coach wants a penalty machine. I'm sure that what he means is that you need to get more aggressive about ground balls and on defense/rides.

My 11 YO son has the best stick skills on his team and has been relegated to attack because his view of ground balls is that he is disinclined to get knocked around when he can pick up just as many balls floating around the scrum and snagging the ball if and when it pops out toward him. This drives his coaches nuts.

On defense he forgets the principle that he needs to point his butt at the sound of his goalie's voice and his chest at his man and push/poke until his man drops the ball.

If you have stick skills, your coach must want you swooping in on ground balls and if he finds you 'too cool for school', he must want you to play defense with better fundamentals.

Don't go hitting people. Lax is only a hitting game when played poorly.

tomtom
03-15-2007, 11:58 PM
Well ryan, looks like Ill be covering you most the time im out there. Good luck tomorrow.

LAX_Conejo
03-16-2007, 12:52 AM
only OP, Agoura and Westlake are invited to the OC tourney

I saw that the OCLax Site said that it is supposed to be a 14 team tournament, both D1 & D2. What is D1 & D2 in high school lacrosse (Var & JV)?

cali feeder
03-16-2007, 12:57 AM
Well ryan, looks like Ill be covering you most the time im out there. Good luck tomorrow.

If I start. I missed a practice, which probably means I won't start. Hopefully I'll get in though. If not, I'll be on second line midfield.

Good luck to you too.

cali feeder
03-16-2007, 12:58 AM
I saw that the OCLax Site said that it is supposed to be a 14 team tournament, both D1 & D2. What is D1 & D2 in high school lacrosse (Var & JV)?

I don't know, but D1 has a few good teams...I know El Toro is D1, and those guys are legit.

3rdPersonPlural
03-16-2007, 01:12 AM
Well ryan, looks like Ill be covering you most the time im out there. Good luck tomorrow.

Oooh! Oohh!! Tomtom, I'll give you fifty bucks for your uniform and pads for one night. Heck......for one quarter.

C'mon, dude!

LAX_Conejo
03-16-2007, 01:36 AM
Well ryan, looks like Ill be covering you most the time im out there. Good luck tomorrow.

Which Newbury Park team is going to show? The one that barely beat Calabasas or the one that hung in there with Agoura?

cali feeder
03-16-2007, 01:38 AM
Oooh! Oohh!! Tomtom, I'll give you fifty bucks for your uniform and pads for one night. Heck......for one quarter.

C'mon, dude!

It is officially ON. :devil:

MACDADDY
03-16-2007, 04:32 PM
our team sucks right now. we (Granada) lost to Las Lomas, which, as rumor says it were beaten by Livermore high.

If you truely dont know who we are, the jv team (which im on) is the team that dont have uniforms and use pennies because cal lax cant supply them that well.

the only real win for jv is
Granada-8
San Raphael-2 or 3 i forget.

tomtom
03-16-2007, 06:02 PM
It is officially ON. :devil:


We'll start the bidding for this beautiful Prowler lacrosse jersey, number 46, at $50. Do i hear 55?

cali feeder
03-16-2007, 06:31 PM
We'll start the bidding for this beautiful Prowler lacrosse jersey, number 46, at $50. Do i hear 55?

I'm gonna swipe it off your back during the game. Better watch out... :chuckle:

3rdPersonPlural
03-16-2007, 08:31 PM
As Sammy Hagar screeched, "I can't go 55".

As a matter of fact, I can't even go to NP, as I'm obliged to a fund raiser here in SB.

TomTom, a feeder (like Cali) is worthless with one hand on the stick, and needs considerable control when he goes to feed. The way to give Cali a bad night is to stay close to him when he has the ball but not so close that he can roll past you. Your aim is to destabilize his lower hand as soon as he goes to pass. A lift check corrupts the arc and accuracy more than even the most vicious slap check, so make it your business to keep his left hand swatted above his shoulder line. Ignore his body unless he tries to get by you, and ALWAYS keep your butt pointed at the top of the crease (judge by your goalie's voice) and your chest pointed at Cali.

You will have a successful night if you never touch the Darling boy except with the head of your stick on his lower glove, and all of his feeds end up as either buddy passes, unconvertable feeds, or ground balls.

Use your feet.

cali feeder
03-17-2007, 12:21 AM
Eh, well, we won, 12-2, but we played some god-awful lacrosse. I mean it was UGLY. I didn't play attack though, mostly midfield, so I didn't get to square off against TomTom. I'm starting to find that I'm much more comftorable behind the cage, rather than in front.

Props to Newbury's EMO and goalie. You guys kept it a lot closer than we thought you would.

EDIT: Also, you guys played an interesting defense. I'm assuming the strategy was to shut off Blair? Because you guys played pretty tight man-to-man coverage. And 3PP, that was some of the greatest defensive advice ever given on these forums.

LAX_Conejo
03-17-2007, 01:03 AM
[QUOTE=cali feeder]Eh, well, we won, 12-2, but we played some god-awful lacrosse. I mean it was UGLY.

Props to Newbury's EMO and goalie. You guys kept it a lot closer than we thought you would. QUOTE]

Bad game, based on previous games, Oak Park usually outshoots 4-1. Only 25 shots by OP on target to the goal. NP had 9, ok 8, it was saved but it looked more like a muff. These where prior to second string entering the game.

I am not sure if OP is going to survive the lack of motivation. Too bad CIF will not allow teams to play non-cif Calif. teams

tomtom
03-17-2007, 01:05 AM
Shutting off blair was obviously important, unfortunately thats easier said than done.

ps- And yeah, our goalie played great, i dunno where our d would be without him.

LAX_Conejo
03-17-2007, 01:20 AM
but he was below his normal save percentage: saved 12/13 of 24/25 shots

tomtom
03-17-2007, 01:28 AM
Against Oak Park, thats not too bad IMHO. Besides, a lot of those shots were times when the defense failed and he had little to no chance.

akahector
03-17-2007, 02:02 AM
los alamitos is 3-1, only loss being to corona del mar (embarassing. :whyme: ) pretty good for a first year program?

vs CDM: 3-13
vs Tustin: 15-0
vs Santa Margarita: 9-7 (quality win!)
vs Manual Arts: 16-4 (props to those guys, they have heart.)

laxman 9990
03-17-2007, 03:03 AM
we beat trabuco hills tonight 15 -5 , i think. next week we play capo, and that should be a great game

MACDADDY
03-17-2007, 10:16 PM
can anyone put the rankings of the highschools or where to find them?

3rdPersonPlural
03-17-2007, 10:20 PM
http://www.laxpower.com/update07/binboy/ratingca.php

The year is still young so the computer is still choking on teams with just a few games, but this is it so far,

MACDADDY
03-17-2007, 10:28 PM
omg Granada isnt in last.....
:rofl: we are ranked 139

LAX_Conejo
03-17-2007, 10:34 PM
omg Granada isnt in last.....
:rofl: we are ranked 139

Doing well, two wins in your first year plus you look like you have 2 more guaranteed wins against Livermore and one more against Campo. Not sure about Foothill (sometimes good, sometimes bad).

tomtom
03-18-2007, 01:06 AM
Yay! We're in the double digits!(barely)

cali feeder
03-18-2007, 03:26 PM
#6 baby. Oh yes.

LAX_Conejo
03-18-2007, 04:06 PM
#6? Right now, tese ranking are comparing apples to oranges. CIF to Club. They do not even allow CIF & Club to play against each other. Is #6 a true ranking?

cali feeder
03-18-2007, 04:22 PM
#6? Right now, tese ranking are comparing apples to oranges. CIF to Club. They do not even allow CIF & Club to play against each other. Is #6 a true ranking?

EDIT: Nevermind, they probably are pretty far off.

raaaay29
03-18-2007, 04:34 PM
You are above SM, LCC, and MVD. These rankings are definitely not right bud.

cali feeder
03-18-2007, 04:36 PM
You are above SM, LCC, and MVD. These rankings are definitely not right bud.

True. True. Statistcally we're better, but probably not on the field.

3rdPersonPlural
03-18-2007, 09:36 PM
Cali Feeder scored a pretty little goal and made a lovely transition feed to the crease for the most impressive goal of the game.

cali feeder
03-18-2007, 09:53 PM
Cali Feeder scored a pretty little goal and made a lovely transition feed to the crease for the most impressive goal of the game.

Aha thanks. For the quarter and into the second, I think we went 2 for like 28 on shots though. We could not hit the cage, and when we did, their goalie stopped them. Then we finally got our offense down and things just started flowing. I noticed they played a zone defense, too.

We play Agoura on Tuesday. Can't wait.

3rdPersonPlural
03-18-2007, 10:02 PM
Blair was moaning all game that he couldn't hit the cage, and he was right. I figure that 20 of those missed shots were his, and the other 8 were shot by #11 who will be dinged by the league for depositing those balls in the yard of the house 75 yards and 3 fences beyond the end line.

BTW, you guys were on the short end of every marginal call. Still convinced that the refs hate you?

cali feeder
03-18-2007, 10:07 PM
Blair was moaning all game that he couldn't hit the cage, and he was right. I figure that 20 of those missed shots were his, and the other 8 were shot by #11 who will be dinged by the league for depositing those balls in the yard of the house 75 yards and 3 fences beyond the end line.

BTW, you guys were on the short end of every marginal call. Still convinced that the refs hate you?

Haha no, no. You guys called a great game. A few calls at the end of the game that could have gone either way, but for the most part, you guys did well.

And yeah, when that kid misses the cage, those balls go FAR. I think he broke a window around 50 yards away from where we practice when he took an elevator shot that went high.

3rdPersonPlural
03-18-2007, 10:22 PM
Someday I'll tell you the story of why this is the first time Walker and I ever worked together.

You know who really impressed me? #21. The d-pole.

Whassup with him?

cali feeder
03-18-2007, 10:25 PM
Someday I'll tell you the story of why this is the first time Walker and I ever worked together.

You know who really impressed me? #21. The d-pole.

Whassup with him?

Yeah he's quite good. He's a junior. The only thing that I think he needs work on is not throwing the wrap check/over-the-head check when his man gets a step on him. Otherwise, he's a great defender, and no fun to go up against in practice.

He's also the one that started the transition where I had the assist to #7.

deuce9898
03-18-2007, 10:26 PM
hey guys. I thought I would join the cali crowd in here. My name's Deuce and im #28 for New community jewish high school(ya..we need a new name)
anyone here play for harvard westlake?

cali feeder
03-18-2007, 10:30 PM
hey guys. I thought I would join the cali crowd in here. My name's Deuce and im #28 for New community jewish high school(ya..we need a new name)
anyone here play for harvard westlake?

Oh hey I played Starz with you!

deuce9898
03-18-2007, 10:33 PM
darling? whats up man?
more on-topic-----we gave palisades a real game last week.Showed some people that our program isn't a complete joke.
were down to 13or 14 players on the team right now and we're still holding up

3rdPersonPlural
03-18-2007, 10:34 PM
Yeah, I had to whistle him for a helmet contact at one point. His checks will mellow out, but he SEES the field on clears, and never did anything stupid or even questionable when transitioning.

A d-pole with vision is a huge asset, and, yes, I note that he hit you breaking into a clear space which you converted into that slick goal.

Bing-bing. That's dominant lax that makes the refs gloat.

deuce9898
03-18-2007, 10:38 PM
3PP- would you happen to know if you're reffing any games for my team this season?

cali feeder
03-18-2007, 10:39 PM
Yeah, I had to whistle him for a helmet contact at one point. His checks will mellow out, but he SEES the field on clears, and never did anything stupid or even questionable when transitioning.

A d-pole with vision is a huge asset, and, yes, I note that he hit you breaking into a clear space which you converted into that slick goal.

Bing-bing. That's dominant lax that makes the refs gloat.

Yeah, having someone who can start the transition efficiently is such a nice luxury to have. Hopefully he'll keep that up against Agoura on Tuesday. Any idea who's reffing our game?

3rdPersonPlural
03-18-2007, 10:47 PM
.....Agoura on Tuesday. Any idea who's reffing our game?

At this point you're assigned 2 college refs - but not Wilson.

3rdPersonPlural
03-18-2007, 10:50 PM
3PP- would you happen to know if you're reffing any games for my team this season?

Not likely. I am Santa Barbara based, so unless you play a Condor team or an SCLA team, I won't get assigned.

Mebbe one of your April games against OVS? Those haven't been assigned yet.

westlakelax17
03-18-2007, 10:55 PM
Does anyone know the score of the OP vs TO game??



westlake beat Santa Barbara today 8-7. we played terrible today, just quite embarrassing because i have seen us play a lot better than we did. I think that we could have been them more than we did. If we play this way this week we are going to get killed by OP. It was tied up 7-7 at the end of the game, and then we score in OT in a EMO situation.

deuce9898
03-18-2007, 10:55 PM
o ok.It seems like we have a lack of refs down here in the valley...A fan ended up reffing our last Crespi game(luckily he happened to be an off-duty ref)

LAX_Conejo
03-18-2007, 10:56 PM
Does anyone know the score of the OP vs TO game??


14-2. Another bad game for Oak Park. Extremely unmotivated.

LAX_Conejo
03-18-2007, 10:58 PM
Moved to other thread

3rdPersonPlural
03-18-2007, 11:05 PM
o ok.It seems like we have a lack of refs down here in the valley...A fan ended up reffing our last Crespi game(luckily he happened to be an off-duty ref)


The reason that you have a lack of refs is that CIF has decreed that refs will earn $20 less than they usually get, and have gotten in the past, and refs in the rest of california get, to officiate Southern section CIF games.

Count your blessings that real refs show up at all. Ever.

deuce9898
03-18-2007, 11:10 PM
One of my teachers told me the exact same thing when I asked about the situation. Would you happen to know Neil Kramer? I believe he is back to reffing on a regular schedule.

3rdPersonPlural
03-18-2007, 11:10 PM
14-2. Another bad game for Oak Park. Extremely unmotivated.

What makes you think that? I thought that they played beautifully and had a bad day shooting the rock. Their coach was pleased with the effort. The refs on the field were impressed with the integrity of their effort. They went to running time early in the 3rd. They played against a zone defense like they'd seen one before.

The kids seemed to be having a ball.

Where do you come up with 'extremely unmotivated'?

3rdPersonPlural
03-18-2007, 11:13 PM
Would you happen to know Neil Kramer? I believe he is back to reffing on a regular schedule.

I know the name. Never worked with him, though.

LAX_Conejo
03-18-2007, 11:18 PM
TO appeared to be more agressive. A lot of OP's shots were from far away, not the normal effort if you were serious about scoring. Hard to play when you do not want to clean the floor with the other team and when your aim is off.

tomtom
03-18-2007, 11:18 PM
Anybody think that the OP Agoura game will be any good this tuesday? Or am i better off staying home...

westlakelax17
03-18-2007, 11:21 PM
Anybody think that the OP Agoura game will be any good this tuesday? Or am i better off staying home...


I think agoura is going to lose, so i dont think it will be that exciting anyways.

tomtom
03-18-2007, 11:26 PM
So do I, but I didnt expect us to win against Agoura(nor did we), but it was a good game nonetheless. I guess it comes down to that or history for me...tough choice.

westlakelax17
03-18-2007, 11:26 PM
TO appeared to be more agressive. A lot of OP's shots were from far away, not the normal effort if you were serious about scoring. Hard to play when you do not want to clean the floor with the other team and when your aim is off.


Well if you are beating a team 14-2, you should have some class. You shouldn't keep on mobbing on a team that bad, thats just not sportsman like. When you are up that bad, the right thing to do is just start running plays and use it as a "game situation" setup and see what you can do. There is no point in beating on a team even more if you know that the game is over. i think that if OP really wanted to mobb on them some more, they would have not taken those outside-un accurate shots and run their normal plays and used back-door feeds like they usually do.

westlakelax17
03-18-2007, 11:27 PM
So do I, but I didnt expect us to win against Agoura(nor did we), but it was a good game nonetheless. I guess it comes down to that or history for me...tough choice.

yea.. the choice for me is if I want to drive down to NP and sit on some cold bleachers.lol

tomtom
03-18-2007, 11:33 PM
Yeah, quite a bit more difficult for most other teams to see the games. I have to admit its a nice perk to living here. Then again, lax is about the only thing to do in this town.

3rdPersonPlural
03-18-2007, 11:41 PM
TO appeared to be more agressive.

They played a passive zone defense that shut off the crease for the most part. That is nt aggressive.

A lot of OP's shots were from far away, not the normal effort if you were serious about scoring.

But how else do you score against a tight zone? A half dozen of OP's goals came from the crease or nearby, and a dozen more would have come from there if #22 could have hit the cage tonight.

Hard to play when you do not want to clean the floor with the other team and when your aim is off.

Aim was indeed off, but OP knew that they had things well in control 2 minutes into the first quarter. I did, and I've never seen these two teams play.

OP had beaten TO by a dozen or more a few weeks back, and they were facing a zone d, so they shot what they could and still hit running time in the 4th.

I think that it was a mature team playing to win but not to humiliate another team. That's class. Had you heard the dialogue on the field, you would not need convincing of this.

cali feeder
03-19-2007, 12:35 AM
Lax Conejo, I'm not sure how they seemed more agressive. They played a 3-3 zone defense. We took a LOT of shots, which shows that we were pretty aggressive. We just couldn't hit the goal. We also had a ton of inside looks, and we converted on quite a few, I had one myself.

We sat our starters midway through the third, and second lines were sat at the beginning of the fourth. We aren't gonna run up a score on them, like we did the first game.

socalax
03-19-2007, 12:46 AM
We took a LOT of shots, which shows that we were pretty aggressive. We just couldn't hit the goal. We also had a ton of inside looks, a
yeah trust me i know what it feels like

cali feeder
03-19-2007, 12:48 AM
yeah trust me i know what it feels like

Haha. How's your shoulder? You looked like you were hurtin when you were playing catch with Pat.

socalax
03-19-2007, 01:02 AM
Haha. How's your shoulder? You looked like you were hurtin when you were playing catch with Pat.
its pretty sore, im just happy it popped back in right away. Friday is going to be a dogfight!

cali feeder
03-19-2007, 01:08 AM
its pretty sore, im just happy it popped back in right away. Friday is going to be a dogfight!

I know man. I'm looking forward to playing you guys. Battle of the offenses!

LAX_Conejo
03-19-2007, 01:18 AM
What happened in the game today? Is SB that good or did you have an off day?

raaaay29
03-19-2007, 01:40 AM
how is mira costa?

FHS_D-POLE
03-19-2007, 01:41 AM
mira costa is horrible

raaaay29
03-19-2007, 01:43 AM
what kind of defense do they run

FHS_D-POLE
03-19-2007, 02:02 AM
a horrible one.....im not sure i didnt really pay attention to there defense

10stone5
03-19-2007, 03:22 PM
I'm planning on going to the San Ramon Valley / De La Salle game in Danville on Friday.

De La Salle lost in ot to Monte Vista a few weeks back. Should be a good test of who is going to come out of NoCal as the top team.

LAX_Conejo
03-19-2007, 03:31 PM
I'm planning on going to the San Ramon Valley / De La Salle game in Danville on Friday.

De La Salle lost in ot to Monte Vista a few weeks back. Should be a good test of who is going to come out of NoCal as the top team.

Game was only last Friday, time dragging by that slowly? The two top teams should be MV & SI, in no particular order. Piedmont and Redwood would also be above SRV.

socalax
03-19-2007, 04:19 PM
What happened in the game today? Is SB that good or did you have an off day?
Well SB played pretty good, they ran there offense pretty legit. We on the other hand had a crappy game from almost everyone, I know it was one of the worst games I have ever had. I honestly could not hit the cage to save my life. :WTF:

tomtom
03-19-2007, 06:28 PM
Better a bad game against Sb than this friday though, no?

socalax
03-19-2007, 09:37 PM
Better a bad game against Sb than this friday though, no?
True that, we gotta come out firing on friday

cali feeder
03-20-2007, 01:22 AM
Well, our (potentially) biggest game of the season is tomorrow. Any of you guys coming to watch?

deuce9898
03-20-2007, 01:47 AM
who are you playing/time and place.I want to try and get out there..

FHS_D-POLE
03-20-2007, 01:50 AM
could everyone in this thread say where they go i get lost

i go to foothill

deuce9898
03-20-2007, 01:56 AM
i go to new community jewish high school(im just putting ncjhs for now on..)

tomtom
03-20-2007, 05:33 PM
I might come out and watch ya tonight, Ryan, if it stops raining.

cali feeder
03-20-2007, 06:06 PM
I might come out and watch ya tonight, Ryan, if it stops raining.

I JUST got wet turf cleats, thank god. Otherwise I would have been on the ground more often than not.

LAX_Conejo
03-20-2007, 06:43 PM
I JUST got wet turf cleats, thank god. Otherwise I would have been on the ground more often than not.

What is a wet turf cleat and if needed, where do you get them?

cali feeder
03-20-2007, 06:49 PM
What is a wet turf cleat and if needed, where do you get them?

Well they aren't as much cleats as they are running shoes, but with tons of little divets on the sole that allows you to grip artificial wet grass (with the black rubber things in them, like we play on) MUCH, much better. I got mine at Foot Locker.

tomtom
03-20-2007, 06:55 PM
Well its comin' down slow but steady over here, so it'll be nice and wet for you.

westcoastlaxr4
03-20-2007, 08:22 PM
Is there anyone from Oak Ridge or Granite Bay on here? We (WV Redhawks) are playing both of you guys this Sunday and I just wanted to talk up the games somewhat. How do you think they will go?

westlakelax17
03-20-2007, 08:48 PM
Well they aren't as much cleats as they are running shoes, but with tons of little divets on the sole that allows you to grip artificial wet grass (with the black rubber things in them, like we play on) MUCH, much better. I got mine at Foot Locker.


I think i know what they are, those aren't meant for the turf we play on. Those are meant for that baseball carpet turf stuff. You are going to slipping even more with those. Im comming to the game too man. i may record some stuff.

3rdPersonPlural
03-20-2007, 09:04 PM
I JUST got wet turf cleats, thank god. Otherwise I would have been on the ground more often than not.

And this would be different than your usual and customary mode of play.....how?

raaaay29
03-20-2007, 11:59 PM
And this would be different than your usual and customary mode of play.....how?


haha owned

LAX_Conejo
03-21-2007, 12:30 AM
Final 18-6 Oak Park over Agoura. Even Oak Park's 3rd string attack scored, one of their goals, Agoura had all their starters in the game. Their coach said at the beginning of the game, if they can get 25 shots off, they would win. My estimate, 24 shots with 16 or so on target.

Another oddity, usually parents and family of most lacrosse games sit in the same side of the field. Agoura sat on the far side, something going on that I don;t know?

LAX_Conejo
03-21-2007, 12:32 AM
Hey westlakelax17, did someone hi-jack your myspace? You are sending out spam messages

tomtom
03-21-2007, 01:01 AM
Agoura sat in the away section? Thats odd. Oh well, sounds like I didnt miss anything spectacular of a game, how'd TLF's favorite little attackman do, conejo?

LAX_Conejo
03-21-2007, 01:05 AM
Sorry, do not have the stats. Your goalie was there though, maybe he will have a better idea or califeeder when he gets on-line. Oak Park mixed it up pretty good, Zeolla did pretty well

LAX_Conejo
03-21-2007, 01:08 AM
Is there anyone from Oak Ridge or Granite Bay on here? We (WV Redhawks) are playing both of you guys this Sunday and I just wanted to talk up the games somewhat. How do you think they will go?

Are you guys coming down for the OCLA tournament in April?

3rdPersonPlural
03-21-2007, 01:27 AM
Another oddity, usually parents and family of most lacrosse games sit in the same side of the field. Agoura sat on the far side, something going on that I don;t know?

Parents fistfighting in the stands. The league frowns on this, and some of the parents seem to persist nonetheless.

I have encouraged indoctrinating the parents into the 'respect the game' mantra that the players all seem to have absorbed. The league had tried parent 'monitors' and some ruffians came to blows anyway.

Now they have to sit in time out.

cali feeder
03-21-2007, 01:30 AM
Agoura sat in the away section? Thats odd. Oh well, sounds like I didnt miss anything spectacular of a game, how'd TLF's favorite little attackman do, conejo?

Yeah, last year during the championship game there was some trash talking between fans of teams. And some fighting after #22 hit the BTB goal against T.O.

Personally, I had 2 assists, one off of a great transition pass by Costello to me, then to #7. The other was a rebound, one of our third string midfielders cut, and I gave him a pass which he caught and scored. And man, one of the Agoura coaches was talking some serious trash.

I'd say we did pretty well.

Zeolla did pretty well 6 Goals, mostly unassisted.

I think i know what they are, those aren't meant for the turf we play on. Those are meant for that baseball carpet turf stuff. You are going to slipping even more with those. Im comming to the game too man. i may record some stuff. You're completely right. I was slipping around in warmups, and ended up putting on my regular cleats. And 3PP, I'm feeling the burn from that one :nahya: !

3rdPersonPlural
03-21-2007, 02:09 AM
3PP, I'm feeling the burn from that one :nahya: !

Sorry. I'm feeling a little punchy today.

10stone5
03-21-2007, 01:23 PM
Results from yesterday - NoCal ---
San Ramon Valley 16, Granada 3
Monte Vista/Danville 13, Foothill 1
California 8, Livermore 3

laxman 9990
03-21-2007, 01:31 PM
Results from yesterday - NoCal ---
San Ramon Valley 16, Granada 3
Monte Vista/Danville 13, Foothill 1
California 8, Livermore 3


im guessing that that foothill is not from tustin

LAX_Conejo
03-21-2007, 01:50 PM
Foothill - Pleasanton

3rdPersonPlural
03-21-2007, 10:34 PM
im guessing that that foothill is not from tustin

There are many hills in CA, therefore at least 2 foothills.

3PP: (14 stone 10)

cali feeder
03-21-2007, 11:34 PM
There are many hills in CA, therefore at least 2 foothills.

3PP: (14 stone 10)

Oh boy you had my sides hurting with laughter on that one!!

Haha okay, we're even now :agree: .

cali feeder
03-24-2007, 12:01 AM
Oh. My. God. We played TERRIBLE. Worst game of this season, and probably last season. I can't even explain how badly we played. We managed to win, 9 - 5, but if we ever play like that again, we'll get smoked. We couldn't shoot, pass, settle the ball, and we had 15 penalties, 6 of which were unsportsman like (definetly a few questionable calls), but either way, 15 penalties is unacceptable. Pathetic.

Props to Westlake on a good game, we managaed to keep Travis' scoring to a minimum after we put Chad on him, but good job to the other guys for stepping it up. Might wanna do a stick check on your team though ;)

westlakelax17
03-24-2007, 12:21 AM
Oh. My. God. We played TERRIBLE. Worst game of this season, and probably last season. I can't even explain how badly we played. We managed to win, 9 - 5, but if we ever play like that again, we'll get smoked. We couldn't shoot, pass, settle the ball, and we had 15 penalties, 6 of which were unsportsman like (definetly a few questionable calls), but either way, 15 penalties is unacceptable. Pathetic.

Props to Westlake on a good game, we managaed to keep Travis' scoring to a minimum after we put Chad on him, but good job to the other guys for stepping it up. Might wanna do a stick check on your team though ;)


haha yea, we didn't play our best either, just a lot of stupid mistakes like passes and other stuff. I think the next time we play you it will be a much better game. The one call that got me pissed off was when Decar [the goalie] got the penalty and OP used their in-house player instead of the other goalie. I just think that you guys should have put in the back up and not play dumb games with the ref to get your way, but besides that we are going to beat you guys the next 3 times. As I said before, 3 is the magic number. hahaha :grin: :grin:

cali feeder
03-24-2007, 12:25 AM
haha yea, we didn't play our best either, just a lot of stupid mistakes like passes and other stuff. I think the next time we play you it will be a much better game. The one call that got me pissed off was when Decar [the goalie] got the penalty and OP used their in-house player instead of the other goalie. I just think that you guys should have put in the back up and not play dumb games with the ref to get your way, but besides that we are going to beat you guys the next 3 times. As I said before, 3 is the magic number. hahaha :grin: :grin:

We don't really have a backup goalie. We just told one of our kids to throw on Decar's backup stuff. The fact that Decar got a penalty in the first place for putting his hands in the air was a joke anyways.

Trust me dude, we didn't play games with the refs, they played us, and we payed for it, big time. See ya in the OC tourney.

westlakelax17
03-24-2007, 12:30 AM
We don't really have a backup goalie. We just told one of our kids to throw on Decar's backup stuff. The fact that Decar got a penalty in the first place for putting his hands in the air was a joke anyways.

Trust me dude, we didn't play games with the refs, they played us, and we payed for it, big time. See ya in the OC tourney.



oh ok. Well, still you still should have told number 00 to put on Decar's gear even though, or atleast pullout a defender. thats what dana hills had to do in our game. Yea good luck in the OC tourney too.

LAX_Conejo
03-24-2007, 12:34 AM
Oh. My. God. We played TERRIBLE. we had 15 penalties, 6 of which were unsportsman like (definetly a few questionable calls), but either way, 15 penalties is unacceptable. Pathetic.

Pretty bad game, Oak park must have had at least 10 shots that went over the net and they also hit a lot of defenders.

Is it a technical if you yell at your own player? The ref called the goalie for a technical, he was yelling at his players for continued fouls, yet he was called. Not sure what the one ref said to the other but the rules for this situation call for the goalie so get the technical (if there really was a foul) and after the other goalie gets suited up, the new goalie gets 45-60 to warm up. You do not send someone else to sit out for the goalie. But, moot, goalie should not have had a call for yelling at his own players.

westlakelax17
03-24-2007, 12:35 AM
Pretty bad game, Oak park must have had at least 10 shots that went over the net and they also hit a lot of defenders.

Is it a technical if you yell at your own player? The ref called the goalie for a technical, he was yelling at his players for continued fouls, yet he was called. Not sure what the one ref said to the other but the rules for this situation call for the goalie so get the technical (if there really was a foul) and after the other goalie gets suited up, the new goalie gets 45-60 to warm up. You do not send someone else to sit out for the goalie. But, moot, goalie should not have had a call for yelling at his own players.


I know this is kind of random, but do you play for agoura???

tomtom
03-24-2007, 12:39 AM
That game was...interesting. Even I was frustrated when they made 3 penalty calls in the last 30 seconds. The mouthguard one I can understand, but the rest was kind of...pointless.

Anyways, not a bad game to watch overall, and cali, if you know 4or 5 blondish girls, ask them which one's the bogey and see if they know what oure talking about.

LAX_Conejo
03-24-2007, 12:42 AM
Who, me? No, why would I waste a Friday at a Lacrosse game if I did not have to be there? The only idiot (he is not really an idiot, can't come up with a nicer term, but he was the only one I saw) wasting his Friday was Kevin from Newbury

cali feeder
03-24-2007, 12:43 AM
That game was...interesting. Even I was frustrated when they made 3 penalty calls in the last 30 seconds. The mouthguard one I can understand, but the rest was kind of...pointless.

Anyways, not a bad game to watch overall, and cali, if you know 4or 5 blondish girls, ask them which one's the bogey and see if they know what oure talking about.

The ones at the game? You sat with them? I'll make sure and put in a good word for you at school :thumbsup: . But yeah, I'll ask them which one the "bogey" is.

LAX_Conejo
03-24-2007, 12:43 AM
And TomTom

tomtom
03-24-2007, 12:45 AM
Who, me? No, why would I waste a Friday at a Lacrosse game if I did not have to be there? The only idiot (he is not really an idiot, can't come up with a nicer term, but he was the only one I saw) wasting his Friday was Kevin from Newbury

Hmm, you might have forgotten me, the guy next to Kevin. And quit dissing him, he had a good purpose to be there(recording the game). You wanna make fun of somebody for "wasting" a friday, make fun of me. I still dont think it was wasted,
I couldnt do anything tonight anyways with an early practice tomorrow.

cali feeder
03-24-2007, 12:46 AM
And TomTom

But the girls there were pretty cute. So it wasn't a TOTAL waste.

tomtom
03-24-2007, 12:48 AM
The ones at the game? You sat with them? I'll make sure and put in a good word for you at school :thumbsup: . But yeah, I'll ask them which one the "bogey" is.

I didnt sit with them very long, we were just checking them out at halftime using the camera. :naughty: We rated them as "definitely above par, like 1 or 2 marks above". So I embarrassed Kevin saying to one of them, 'hey, my friend over there thinks youre a bogey'.

But do remember to put in a good word for me, im always open to new people.

cali feeder
03-24-2007, 12:49 AM
I didnt sit with them very long, we were just checking them out at halftime using the camera. :naughty: We rated them as "definitely above par, like 1 or 2 marks above". So I embarrassed Kevin saying to one of them, 'hey, my friend over there thinks youre a bogey'.

But do remember to put in a good word for me, im always open to new people.

Please explain what the hell a "bogey" is? Is that Newbury language?

LAX_Conejo
03-24-2007, 12:50 AM
I couldnt do anything tonight anyways with an early practice tomorrow.

You guys have practice tomorrow? For the Oak Park game?

tomtom
03-24-2007, 12:54 AM
A bogey is a golf term for one over par. If youve ever used the term "sub-par" to represent something of poor quality, this is the opposite.

Yeah, we have practice since we lost our field wednesday and did game films thursday. SInce mondays are always skills type drills and no playwork, we've been left with essentiually no team practice stuff since last wednesday.

LAX_Conejo
03-24-2007, 01:03 AM
Too much thinking and classroom work for a game that a good percentage is played from the heart. You might learn what the other team does but you can not teach the instinct of always knowing who is going to back you up and who is around you.

tomtom
03-24-2007, 01:06 AM
Are you planning on finishing that sentence fragment? So far you've got a very large subject, but we need a preposition!

3rdPersonPlural
03-24-2007, 01:19 AM
The one call that got me pissed off was when Decar [the goalie] got the penalty and OP used their in-house player instead of the other goalie.

Errr....That would be In HOME, 17. A house is not a home, and all that.

Under Federation rules, if a team does not have a goalie dressed to warm up, the officials MAY assign the penalty time to the team's designated In-Home, who is the first attackman listed in the scorebook.

This is to keep the game moving. Your lead ref was (and is) all about keeping the game moving.

3rdPersonPlural
03-24-2007, 01:21 AM
Are you planning on finishing that sentence fragment? So far you've got a very large subject, but we need a preposition!

Thank you TomTom. Another grammar Nazi around here is appreciated.

LAX_Conejo
03-24-2007, 01:26 AM
The one call that got me pissed off was when Decar [the goalie] got the penalty and OP used their in-house player instead of the other goalie. I just think that you guys should have put in the back up and not play dumb games with the ref to get your way, but besides that we are going to beat you guys the next 3 times. As I said before, 3 is the magic number. hahaha :grin: :grin:

Still, there should have not been a penalty. You can not tell a goalie that he can not reprimand his own players for constant penalties. He did not swear at them and he was not talking to the ref so there should have never been a call in the first place.

tomtom
03-24-2007, 01:29 AM
^^^Agreed. I may be crazy, but i detected a hint of flag-happy refereeing tonight.

3rdPersonPlural
03-24-2007, 01:50 AM
Still, there should have not been a penalty. You can not tell a goalie that he can not reprimand his own players for constant penalties. He did not swear at them and he was not talking to the ref so there should have never been a call in the first place.

First, you weren't on the field, so you are speculating as to what he said and to whom.

Second, Unsportsmanlike conduct includes being an arse, even to your own team. It is a broad infraction that is usually an 'accumulated' foul in it's execution.

Third, no offense but your opinion (and mine) matters nothing as to the behavior of the OP Goalie. I've thought about flagging kids for muttering, and the refs you have are way more trigger happy (or confident) than I am.

Remember, profanity is an offense. Say **** and you should expect to sit for a minute.

I don't write these rules. I just enforce 'em.

LAX_Conejo
03-24-2007, 02:04 AM
First, you weren't on the field, so you are speculating as to what he said and to whom.

Second, Unsportsmanlike conduct includes being an arse, even to your own team. It is a broad infraction that is usually an 'accumulated' foul in it's execution.

Third, no offense but your opinion (and mine) matters nothing as to the behavior of the OP Goalie. I've thought about flagging kids for muttering, and the refs you have are way more trigger happy (or confident) than I am.

Remember, profanity is an offense. Say **** and you should expect to sit for a minute.

I don't write these rules. I just enforce 'em.

I understand that you can not yell at the ref and you can not swear, but neither happened. The OP goalie yelled at his team for , at the time, the 12th penalty of the night. If the coach yelled at his players to knock off the penalties, he would not draw a foul. His coach heard what was said and he agreed with what the OP goalie was doing. It is the responsibility of the goalie to control his team. What you are saying is that he is not allowed to do it?? The person most affected by man down is the goalie. He at no time was talking to the ref or talking about the ref, nor was he swearing.

Sorry but you do not know DaCar (OP's golaie) at all, the last thing he will ever do is yell at a coach or a ref.

3rdPersonPlural
03-24-2007, 02:17 AM
I understand that you can not yell at the ref and you can not swear, but neither happened. The OP goalie yelled at his team for , at the time, the 12th penalty of the night. If the coach yelled at his players to knock off the penalties, he would not draw a foul. His coach heard what was said and he agreed with what the OP goalie was doing. It is the responsibility of the goalie to control his team. What you are saying is that he is not allowed to do it?? The person most affected by man down is the goalie. He at no time was talking to the ref or talking about the ref, nor was he swearing.

Sorry but you do not know DaCar (OP's golaie) at all, the last thing he will ever do is yell at a coach or a ref.


I have officiated a few games with him playing, and have nothing but respect for the boy. He plays well and he has never led me to believe that he would misbehave.

Yes, a keeper is supposed to control, direct, and discipline his defense. However, he was obviously frustrated and he may have said something that the officials took out of context and felt was unsportsmanlike.

I dunno. I was a few exits south officiating an Oaks Christian game. However, I KNOW that the world is a different place and the game is nekkid in it's emotion when you're ON the field and a few, rather than a few score, yards away from the players.

I've worked with both refs at that game, and both are quick trigger types. Maybe the call was a mistake, but SOMETHING must have triggerted the call. Neither are rookies afterall.

chaldeanlaxplr
03-24-2007, 04:16 PM
sweetwater, number 39, defence/ future middy........ i need a high schol coach for steele canon

10stone5
03-24-2007, 04:28 PM
In NorCal lacrosse action --->
San Ramon Valley beat De La Salle [#23 in state] - 9 to 8. SRV actually had an 8-4 lead with about 10 to play, and De La Salle made it close. From what I saw, SRV had a couple of talented playmakers who could pretty much take the D whenever they wanted - KAI CUMMINGS 51 Midfield - this guy especially. But I'd say that De La Salle looks to me to have a better overall team. It should be noted that San Ramon Valley lost to Saint Ignatius Prep a couple games ago, 8-4.

Anyway, a great Friday night under the lights.

cali feeder
03-24-2007, 05:14 PM
I have officiated a few games with him playing, and have nothing but respect for the boy. He plays well and he has never led me to believe that he would misbehave.

Yes, a keeper is supposed to control, direct, and discipline his defense. However, he was obviously frustrated and he may have said something that the officials took out of context and felt was unsportsmanlike.

I dunno. I was a few exits south officiating an Oaks Christian game. However, I KNOW that the world is a different place and the game is nekkid in it's emotion when you're ON the field and a few, rather than a few score, yards away from the players.

I've worked with both refs at that game, and both are quick trigger types. Maybe the call was a mistake, but SOMETHING must have triggerted the call. Neither are rookies afterall.

The female ref said that since he put his hands up when he yelled at our D, it was considered "visual threat" or something of the sort, and thats why she flagged him. Not sure I've heard that one before.

3rdPersonPlural
03-24-2007, 10:03 PM
Ah> "Threatening or obscene gestures" is included in the USC definition. My best guess is that she thought that Decar was hooting at the attack and viewed the alternate explanation as spin, rather than truth. Or maybe she recognized that she was wrong, but stood by her call anyway. Most refs don't want to set a precedent of seeming vulnerable to entreaties to reverse a call.

I'm the only official I know with the liberal mindset. Give me better data than I had when I made the call, and I'll revise my thinking. However, ex post facto data, no matter how strenuously argued, is rarely sufficient to overturn my first impression.

If the ref was wrong, you are priviledged to have been witness to the first erroneous officiating decision this year.

Justbecause
03-24-2007, 10:17 PM
Pretty bad game, Oak park must have had at least 10 shots that went over the net and they also hit a lot of defenders.



It was an awsome game.

LAX_Conejo
03-25-2007, 12:23 AM
It was an awsome game. Luckily that Westlake has the stud Bright in goal or it would not have been that close. Bright is the best in the league

Must have watched a different game. It was not close because of the goalie. In the first quarter, Oak Park only took a couple shots. My guess, other than far misses, this was Oak Park's lowest shot output of the year

cali feeder
03-25-2007, 01:19 AM
Must have watched a different game. It was not close because of the goalie. In the first quarter, Oak Park only took a couple shots. My guess, other than far misses, this was Oak Park's lowest shot output of the year

You're right. We've got shooters that can but the ball past anyone. We took bad, lower-percentage, and fewer shots than we usually do, and couldn't finish inside.

Taylor is a great goalie; but probably none better than the T.O. goalie (not saying anything bad about him; he's one of the best in the league). But if you have a good defense and a poor offense to guard, there won't be many points on the board. Good call, Lax Conejo.

3rdPersonPlural
03-25-2007, 01:22 AM
In the first quarter, Oak Park only took a couple shots. My guess, other than far misses, this was Oak Park's lowest shot output of the year

I suspect that JustBecause IS the goalie, Connie Jo.

Many things can be said about OP, but one thing is that those boys attack the cage. The game I worked (NP) they flung about $50 worth of balls into the adjoining neighborhood before hitting the cage. Hey, had the cage been 7X7, they would have been up by 20 by the 2nd, but nobody got panic'd and they kept on shooting.

Same can be said for Westlake. I showed up with 6-ish minutes left in their game against SB, and they blasted a couple of dozen confident shots just off the mark or at the keeper before getting that OT score.

As long as you're backing up competently, I say shoot until the keeper and the defense are rattled, then start to score some goals.

Is there anybody from Delbarton on your coaching staff? If so, I think that I can explain this approach.

tomtom
03-25-2007, 01:32 AM
Taylor is a great goalie; but probably none better than the T.O. goalie (not saying anything bad about him; he's one of the best in the league). But if you have a good defense and a poor offense to guard, there won't be many points on the board. Good call, Lax Conejo.

I would even understand a claim that T.O.'s is the best in the league. His defense is virtually nonexistant, however, no offense to the T.O. guys beause I know our own isnt spectacular either. However after playing alongside a few of T.O.'s poles in the last JV game(the scla combined team had only 6 people show up, so a lot of NP varsity guys went to join them, likewise some T.O. varsity guys did too), I've realized that he would be maniacal with a top notch d.

cali feeder
03-25-2007, 01:39 AM
I suspect that JustBecause IS the goalie, Connie Jo.

Many things can be said about OP, but one thing is that those boys attack the cage. The game I worked (NP) they flung about $50 worth of balls into the adjoining neighborhood before hitting the cage. Hey, had the cage been 7X7, they would have been up by 20 by the 2nd, but nobody got panic'd and they kept on shooting.

Same can be said for Westlake. I showed up with 6-ish minutes left in their game against SB, and they blasted a couple of dozen confident shots just off the mark or at the keeper before getting that OT score.

As long as you're backing up competently, I say shoot until the keeper and the defense are rattled, then start to score some goals.

Is there anybody from Delbarton on your coaching staff? If so, I think that I can explain this approach.

Who, us? We have Mike, from Fairfield (I think), a guy from 'Cuse, and a guy from Stony Brook.

I would even understand a claim that T.O.'s is the best in the league. His defense is virtually nonexistant, however, no offense to the T.O. guys beause I know our own isnt spectacular either. However after playing alongside a few of T.O.'s poles in the last JV game(the scla combined team had only 6 people show up, so a lot of NP varsity guys went to join them, likewise some T.O. varsity guys did too), I've realized that he would be maniacal with a top notch d.

Probably the best in the league. He's done very well considering the defense in front of him.

3rdPersonPlural
03-25-2007, 01:52 AM
Who, us? We have Mike, from Fairfield (I think), a guy from 'Cuse, and a guy from Stony Brook.


Yeah, you.

Delbarton is a New Jersey High school. Known for aggresive attack.

Ask around.

LAX_Conejo
03-25-2007, 02:13 AM
[QUOTE=tomtom]I would even understand a claim that T.O.'s is the best in the league. QUOTE]

Hard to win when your offense is being out shot by your opponents' offense 4-1 (78-20), NP is outshot 4-3 (121-91)

cali feeder
03-25-2007, 02:17 AM
[QUOTE=tomtom]I would even understand a claim that T.O.'s is the best in the league. QUOTE]

Hard to win when your offense is being out shot by your opponents' offense 4-1 (78-20), NP is outshot 4-3 (121-91)

True, but is that really his fault? The guys tops as many shots as he can, and thats all he can really do. TO's offense isn't exaclty proficient; one for sure, maybe two legit shooters on their offense.

LAX_Conejo
03-25-2007, 02:30 AM
[QUOTE=LAX_Conejo]

True, but is that really his fault? The guys tops as many shots as he can, and thats all he can really do. TO's offense isn't exaclty proficient; one for sure, maybe two legit shooters on their offense.


??? I did not say it was his fault. I was defending his stats. Even if TO hit 100% of their shots, they would only have an average of 6.67 points a game, they are averaging 1.67 points a game. OP (not including WB & DH) is scoring 13.8 on only 52%

cali feeder
03-25-2007, 02:32 AM
[QUOTE=cali feeder]


??? I did not say it was his fault. I was defending his stats. Even if TO hit 100% of their shots, they would only have an average of 6.67 points a game, they are averaging 1.67 points a game. OP (not including WB & DH) is scoring 13.8 on only 52%

Ah, I misunderstood you. My bad.

You're right; they get outshot to the point where even if they did hit 100% of their shots, they would still be losing. That goalie has some serious heart, and I give him a lot of credit for it.

LAX_Conejo
03-25-2007, 11:01 PM
Congrats to TO for their first win of the year, actually, their first ever win

cali feeder
03-25-2007, 11:30 PM
Congrats to TO for their first win of the year, actually, their first ever win

They won? Alright! I'm happy for their goalie.

We won against NP, 12 - 3. We're still not playing well; better than last time, but still not well. We got more open looks, we just couldn't finish. Credit to Moto for some good goaltending. I didn't play too well, I cross-checked a kid in the head on a ride, and then pegged Moto in the nuts on a lefty jump shot and put him on the ground for a few minutes. Shoulda had a couple assists, but whatever.

At least no unsportsman-like penalties this time. Still some "interesting" officiating (not you Mr. Wilson). Also, congrats to #13 on NP, who I think had all of their goals. And I beat TomTom to the cage once, but I got slashed and missed the shot :DOH: !

3rdPersonPlural
03-25-2007, 11:43 PM
Still some "interesting" officiating (not you Mr. Wilson).

Wasn't me. I was officiating your replacements down at Rancho.

Is there a local U13 all star team that plays off season tournaments?

cali feeder
03-25-2007, 11:48 PM
Wasn't me. I was officiating your replacements down at Rancho.

Is there a local U13 all star team that plays off season tournaments?

Yes, it wasn't you. I believe there is a 6th grade Starz team, and a 7th/8th grade Starz team as well...

3rdPersonPlural
03-26-2007, 12:03 AM
Yes, it wasn't you.

Thank you for confirming that. I use cox hghspeed internet, you know. I might just be two places at once. If my time warp self committed 'interesting' officiating while I was jogging around after elementary school kids, I'd want to know.

I believe there is a 6th grade Starz team, and a 7th/8th grade Starz team as well...

Would Sebold be able to get me some contact info?

cali feeder
03-26-2007, 12:35 AM
Thank you for confirming that. I use cox hghspeed internet, you know. I might just be two places at once. If my time warp self committed 'interesting' officiating while I was jogging around after elementary school kids, I'd want to know.



Would Sebold be able to get me some contact info?

Most likely, yes. Or Hochstadt, but he's hard to get ahold of sometimes. But yes, Sebold would be your best bet right now. Here's their website:

www.starzlax.com

Nice new avvy too. I wonder if anyone else will get it.

akahector
03-26-2007, 12:38 AM
los alamitos lax -- #9 in OC... but we don't play anybody, really, for the rest of the season.


probably see you guys in the playoffs.

cali feeder
03-26-2007, 12:48 AM
los alamitos lax -- #9 in OC... but we don't play anybody, really, for the rest of the season.


probably see you guys in the playoffs.

You going to the OC tourney?

3rdPersonPlural
03-26-2007, 12:57 AM
Nice new avvy too. I wonder if anyone else will get it.

Yeah, that's my new Acme PeaceMaker whistle. It's apparently very loud and it comes 'loaded', whatever that means.

It's marketed to:

'Officials who are sufficiently stupid or wealthy enough to spend $700.00 on a whistle'.

I've been saving for two years to get it. Let's call it referee's Bling.

You blow into it, and if no sound comes out you just pull the trigger.

I'm going to use it at the next OP game for sure. :guns:

LAX_Conejo
03-26-2007, 01:00 AM
They won? Alright! I'm happy for their goalie.

!

Good day for 3 of the 4 goalies this weekend. 60% and higher save percentages. Calabasas out shot TO 22 to 12 and TO still won

tomtom
03-26-2007, 01:23 AM
They won? Alright! I'm happy for their goalie.

We won against NP, 12 - 3. We're still not playing well; better than last time, but still not well. We got more open looks, we just couldn't finish. Credit to Moto for some good goaltending. I didn't play too well, I cross-checked a kid in the head on a ride, and then pegged Moto in the nuts on a lefty jump shot and put him on the ground for a few minutes. Shoulda had a couple assists, but whatever.

At least no unsportsman-like penalties this time. Still some "interesting" officiating (not you Mr. Wilson). Also, congrats to #13 on NP, who I think had all of their goals. And I beat TomTom to the cage once, but I got slashed and missed the shot :DOH: !

Yeah, yeah, ya beat me. To be honest I cant remember much in the end of the 4th quarter though, since the holding call, which im still confused about. Got hard contact on one of your attackmen helmet to helmet and was a little dazed. Then getting FLATTENED on a clear. One of those, "hey, theres a guy there, i should dodge him...ok good past him-turn head_ oh crap, another gu-wham!-" type moments.

ps- if kevin is sterile, im hunting you down.

socalax
03-26-2007, 04:24 PM
At least no unsportsman-like penalties this time.

Nice job! Glad to see you guys are shutting up for once. HA JK :chuckle:

3rdPersonPlural
03-26-2007, 08:47 PM
Yeah, yeah, ya beat me.

Didn't you read my personalized tutorial for you on how to scramble Cali's game?

To be honest I cant remember much in the end of the 4th quarter though, since the holding call, which im still confused about.

Holding happens whenever a defender uses his stick to 'impede the progress', or slow down, a ballhandler.

Hook 'em and drag 'em is how it looks to a ref. It's the most inconsistently called penalty in lax, mostly because college refs NEVER call it and HS players can be dinged for holding at least once per defensive engagement. I just let the players determine what degree of holding is to be considered acceptable by observing their play in the first quarter, then flag violations of that envelope henceforth.

This is hardly 'to the letter' officiating, but zinging 35 30 second penalties per game ain't my style.

Got hard contact on one of your attackmen helmet to helmet and was a little dazed.

Helmet to sternum contact is a better way to get dazed. Keeping your elbow pads in front of you and your brainhead and stickhead low in chaotic circumstances keeps this from happening, and puts you face to face with ground balls that you'd otherwise mise.

Then getting FLATTENED on a clear. One of those, "hey, theres a guy there, i should dodge him...ok good past him-turn head_ oh crap, another gu-wham!-" type moments.


Clearing tip:

Get the ball, and look first to the nearest middie. He's your milestone. If you can scoot past him, leg the clear. If he has the angle on you, just roll back and eye the field for passing opportunities. If rolling back walks you into trouble with the attack, dump to the keeper and set up a clear.

20 seconds is for friggin' ever for a clear. Take your time. Never ever try to dodge. If you're not broken clear of trouble in the first second and a half after securing possession, bail on the fast break and run a set clear.

cali feeder
03-26-2007, 09:05 PM
ps- if kevin is sterile, im hunting you down.I kinda feel bad about that shot...I mean, I used to be his teammate, and probably will be again this summer.

Nice job! Glad to see you guys are shutting up for once. HA JKHar har har! But yes, we did indeed run our mouths against you guys.

tomtom
03-27-2007, 12:21 AM
Didn't you read my personalized tutorial for you on how to scramble Cali's game?



Holding happens whenever a defender uses his stick to 'impede the progress', or slow down, a ballhandler.

Hook 'em and drag 'em is how it looks to a ref. It's the most inconsistently called penalty in lax, mostly because college refs NEVER call it and HS players can be dinged for holding at least once per defensive engagement. I just let the players determine what degree of holding is to be considered acceptable by observing their play in the first quarter, then flag violations of that envelope henceforth.

This is hardly 'to the letter' officiating, but zinging 35 30 second penalties per game ain't my style.



Helmet to sternum contact is a better way to get dazed. Keeping your elbow pads in front of you and your brainhead and stickhead low in chaotic circumstances keeps this from happening, and puts you face to face with ground balls that you'd otherwise mise.



Clearing tip:

Get the ball, and look first to the nearest middie. He's your milestone. If you can scoot past him, leg the clear. If he has the angle on you, just roll back and eye the field for passing opportunities. If rolling back walks you into trouble with the attack, dump to the keeper and set up a clear.

20 seconds is for friggin' ever for a clear. Take your time. Never ever try to dodge. If you're not broken clear of trouble in the first second and a half after securing possession, bail on the fast break and run a set clear.

Your tutorial worked great, with that one exception, thanks.

I get what you mean on the clearing and hold thing. On the clear I should've dumped back to goal or something, as they were riding my middies very well. I guess I was just hesitant to do so when i was at the 35-40 when i picked it up and the halfline by the time there was any pressure. Ahh well, lesson learned.

The head down thing though wasnt so much the problem, it wasnt on a ground ball but a slide from crease making the hit, and when I came in for the second he was turned right into me as Im trying to track down the crease man. Tunnel vision at its worst I suppose.

cali- kevins fine and laughing about it now, though westin's gonna be out for a bit with a small concussion.

3rdPersonPlural
03-27-2007, 01:03 AM
The head down thing though wasnt so much the problem, it wasnt on a ground ball but a slide from crease making the hit, and when I came in for the second he was turned right into me as Im trying to track down the crease man. Tunnel vision at its worst I suppose.

Yeah, coming in as the second slide you have to keep your head up and assume the posture of a Meerkat while behaving like a stalking Tiger. You're grabbing an eyeful of the ball and merely locating yourself, which is a great scenario for getting in the way of someone who has a plan.

The Mossad teaches you to keep solid on your feet - off your toes and braced for bullets - when in the similar scenario with guns instead of sticks, balls, and helmets. Keep your stick up, your elbows and forearms in a defensive position, and scuttle in as if you're a linebacker filling a hole. This way you can watch the ball instead of watching your environment, as a second slide is never expected to be more than a jersey and a waving stick right where a molested ballhandler wants to see nothing but friendly jerseys. Keep your upper hand near the throat of your stick, as this means that if you grab a grenade pass or an errant prayer, you have a power cradle right off the bat to carry you into free turf.

tomtom
03-27-2007, 01:08 AM
Meerkat...tiger...mossad...power cradle. It all makes sense now, though interesting choices of analogies.

3rdPersonPlural
03-27-2007, 01:37 AM
Meerkat...tiger...mossad...power cradle. It all makes sense now, though interesting choices of analogies.


You left out 'linebacker'.

One of these days I will wax eloquent on the importance of intellectual prowess vis a vis playing defense.

Perhaps I might even reminisce about the golden age of lax when referees were optional and beer kegs behind the home bench were mandatory.

Lemme tell ya, writing notes about lax is a heck of a lot more entertaining than doing what I'm SUPPOSED to be doing here at my desk......

LAX_Conejo
03-27-2007, 01:53 AM
You left out 'linebacker'.

..

Linebacker? That's if you are playing Agoura or Oak Park where their linebackers are playing lacrosse.

tomtom
03-27-2007, 08:21 PM
Well NP isnt far off, either, 16 is a d lineman and I used to be an outside linebacker so...

And that lineback analogy really helped get the idea across too, shouldve mentioned that.

LAX_Conejo
03-27-2007, 09:58 PM
Well NP isnt far off, either, 16 is a d lineman and I used to be an outside linebacker so...



For Newbury? I did not see anyone on the roster on the Max Preps roster for Newbury?

tomtom
03-27-2007, 10:05 PM
Well I'm no longer playing football, it ate up too much time, and the other guy is only a sophomore, thus, JV.

LAX_Conejo
03-27-2007, 10:30 PM
Well I'm no longer playing football, it ate up too much time, and the other guy is only a sophomore, thus, JV.

Do you play lacrosse year round? Ever read the thread, 'should I play another sport instead of lacrosse only?'???

tomtom
03-27-2007, 10:39 PM
Not except wallball. Id like to be in some other sports, but football eats up your summer(nooo thanks), and track, which i ran up until this year, conflicts with lax.

LAX_Conejo
03-27-2007, 11:12 PM
Is there indoor lacrosse anywhere near Conejo?

tomtom
03-27-2007, 11:50 PM
Nope. Though personally I think a box league would go over very well here, just a short winter season maybe.

LAX_Conejo
03-28-2007, 12:38 AM
Any score for Westlake?

westlakelax17
03-28-2007, 01:10 AM
Any score for Westlake?

6-1 westlake.

We played ok, we should have beat them so much more. The thing that held us back was the zone Defence that they played. When we did our plays, we didn't rotate at all so we had to take outside shots. in the second quarter, we had 15 shots outside and i think only scored maybe twice. The defence played really well, but we stopped talking it up after halftime. I played the whole game [ im number 17 the goalie] because Taylor broke his thumb and we are resting him. I played really well. TO needs to catch and throw better.

cali feeder
03-28-2007, 01:16 AM
6-1 westlake.

We played ok, we should have beat them so much more. The thing that held us back was the zone Defence that they played. When we did our plays, we didn't rotate at all so we had to take outside shots. in the second quarter, we had 15 shots outside and i think only scored maybe twice. The defence played really well, but we stopped talking it up after halftime. I played the whole game [ im number 17 the goalie] because Taylor broke his thumb and we are resting him. I played really well. TO needs to catch and throw better.

Oy. Yeah against their 3-3 zone, you need to rotate as you swing the ball around the outside, then look for the backside pass that will allow a good shooter like Travis or Pat to step in and rip one, instead of settling for a flat footed 17-yard shot. Since their defence won't rotate as you move (they'll just bump off to the next defender), you need to drag the person on you down as far as possible, and have the next guy follow and pass backside to him.

I'm suprised they ran a 3-3 against you guys, since you've obvoiusly got a couple pretty good outside shooters. I bet their main reasoning was to force shots that gave the keeper more time to react to and save.

vivalaSAM
03-28-2007, 02:13 AM
Well then, first post at TLF...

I'm a senior varsity defenseman at Bonita Vista High down in San Diego, wearing #3. I'm kinda small for a defenseman, but I like to think I'm pretty fundamentally sound and I have good stick skills. We're having an alright year so far, but we're pulling it together. Our two losses to Otay Ranch and Patrick Henry were pretty tough to swallow considering we had pretty comfortable leads in both and gave them up in the 2nd half. Essentially we should be 5-0 right now... but you know, shoulda woulda coulda. We've got a lot of talent this year with a lot of seniors, but not enough heart sometimes. We're improving though, and we finished strong against Francis Parker to hold on 10-9 on Monday.

PlayOn
03-28-2007, 03:37 AM
darling? whats up man?
more on-topic-----we gave palisades a real game last week.Showed some people that our program isn't a complete joke.
were down to 13or 14 players on the team right now and we're still holding up

This was a great game. I have to say I tell everyone NewJew is underestimated after this one. You guys need to work on that home field though. The best thing about that Pali game was your goalie. He's a natural. If you play with the same intensity as you did at Pali I think you guys will really impress more people.

Neil Kramer is reffing as is Daniel Kramer.

Also regarding Holding. I called it today for the second time since I started reffing. This time though it was so blatant it couldn't be mistaked. This long pole not only wrapped his stick totally across this attackman but you could see him pulling back as hard as he could, all this in the middle of the restraining box 4 feet from the crease defending against an Iso after getting beat. It's gotta be this obvious most of the time to really call holding.

GTA
03-28-2007, 02:51 PM
CA top 50 according to LAXPOWER.COM:


1 Saint Ignatius Prep 97.50 1 7- 0- 0 CA
2 Torrey Pines 96.15 4 7- 0- 0 CA
3 Foothill-Santa Ana 96.00 7 9- 0- 0 CA
4 Poway 95.48 3 3- 1- 0 CA
5 El Toro 95.03 35 6- 1- 0 CA
6 Oak Park 95.00 28 8- 0- 0 CA
7 West Valley 94.36 49 5- 0- 0 CA
8 La Costa Canyon 94.02 2 4- 1- 0 CA
9 Westview 93.82 6 5- 0- 0 CA
10 Palos Verdes 93.04 38 7- 0- 0 CA
11 Coronado 92.91 23 3- 3- 0 CA
12 Loyola-Los Angeles 91.79 48 7- 0- 0 CA
13 Saint Margaret's 91.38 9 6- 2- 0 CA
14 J Serra Catholic 91.34 87 7- 1- 0 CA
15 Santa Fe Christian 91.20 13 2- 1- 0 CA
16 Corona Del Mar 91.07 34 6- 3- 0 CA
17 Monte Vista-Spg Valley 90.79 118 5- 0- 0 CA
18 Canyon Crest 90.65 50 5- 1- 0 CA
19 Rancho Bernardo 90.58 15 1- 3- 0 CA
20 De LaSalle 90.33 26 5- 2- 0 CA
21 Granite Hills 90.31 97 6- 2- 0 CA
22 Woodbridge 90.08 67 7- 1- 0 CA
23 Grossmont 89.75 68 5- 3- 0 CA
24 Monte Vista/Danville 89.63 25 6- 0- 0 CA
25 Palisades Charter 89.46 107 8- 0- 0 CA
26 Westlake 89.28 21 4- 2- 0 CA
27 Cate School 88.95 103 6- 1- 0 CA
28 San Dieguito 88.65 36 2- 2- 0 CA
29 La Jolla Cou Day 88.39 100 4- 0- 0 CA
30 Chico Red 88.30 56 3- 1- 0 CA
31 Piedmont 88.27 37 8- 1- 0 CA
32 Palo Alto (THLC) 87.81 42 6- 1- 0 CA
33 Granite Bay 87.80 61 8- 1- 0 CA
34 La Jolla HS 87.79 69 2- 2- 0 CA
35 San Ramon Valley 87.76 33 6- 3- 0 CA
36 Redwood 87.66 73 6- 2- 0 CA
37 Cathedral Catholic 87.36 65 3- 2- 0 CA
38 Scripps Ranch 87.34 91 1- 3- 0 CA
39 Eastlake 87.10 133 4- 3- 0 CA
40 Bishop's School 86.78 11 0- 2- 0 CA
41 Great Oak/Temecula 86.73 62 4- 2- 0 CA
42 Thacher School 86.71 145 2- 0- 0 CA
43 Francis Parker 86.58 39 2- 3- 0 CA
44 Mira Costa 86.45 18 6- 5- 0 CA
45 Bonita Vista 86.28 157 3- 2- 0 CA
46 Capistrano Valley 86.20 58 5- 3- 0 CA
47 Valhalla 86.19 99 3- 4- 0 CA
48 Harvard-Westlake 86.15 66 4- 4- 0 CA
49 Mount Carmel 85.90 22 1- 4- 0 CA
50 Patrick Henry 85.79 123 4- 2- 0 CA

dbreienrk alot
03-28-2007, 04:26 PM
i played oak park in the state championship last year... we won 7-1

dbreienrk alot
03-28-2007, 04:28 PM
ya, his name in spencer row... he left. ha

westlakelax17
03-28-2007, 09:13 PM
Oy. Yeah against their 3-3 zone, you need to rotate as you swing the ball around the outside, then look for the backside pass that will allow a good shooter like Travis or Pat to step in and rip one, instead of settling for a flat footed 17-yard shot. Since their defence won't rotate as you move (they'll just bump off to the next defender), you need to drag the person on you down as far as possible, and have the next guy follow and pass backside to him.

I'm suprised they ran a 3-3 against you guys, since you've obvoiusly got a couple pretty good outside shooters. I bet their main reasoning was to force shots that gave the keeper more time to react to and save.


Yea, we just went over it in practice today and it worked so well. I think we will do a lot more better on friday.

FHS_D-POLE
03-28-2007, 11:11 PM
go foothill, we head up to san fran this friday to play monte vista and de la salle should be fun

cali feeder
03-29-2007, 01:29 AM
Well I played some JV action today, I had 3 of 7 goals, I believe. I was sick, and didn't play too well, and probably should have had 5 goals but I missed two point-blank shots. Our ref, Mr. Wilson, now refers to me as Cali Feeder even on the field; by the way, good job reffing today considering you were the lone warrior.

I got to play pole too, when we were two men down. They scored, but I think it was because of a slow rotation from the back right guy, and I was playing top left.

We've got Calabasas this Friday; anyone to look out for? I know Mandell is supposedly their best player and they've got a decent goalie, but is there anything else that caught other teams by suprise?

tomtom
03-29-2007, 05:32 PM
Hehe, JV is always fun, too bad I dont get to do it much. Before the OP game last sunday i got a few plays as lsm, unfortunately we won most the faceoffs so it was usually about 15 seconds on, then sub out for a shortie.

LAX_Conejo
03-30-2007, 12:45 AM
go foothill, we head up to san fran this friday to play monte vista and de la salle should be fun

I am not sure if we should wish you luck, no matter if you win or lose, the state ranking will still be screwed up. We can already see that FHS and the Nor Cal teams (all but SRV) can kick San Diego butt but happens when you go up there? MV seams either to be struggling (not winning by their usual amount) or the Bay Area teams are collectively getting better. DLS's has lost only to SRV & MV but they killed the San Diego teams.

Good luck all the same

deuce9898
03-30-2007, 01:07 AM
This was a great game. I have to say I tell everyone NewJew is underestimated after this one. You guys need to work on that home field though. The best thing about that Pali game was your goalie. He's a natural. If you play with the same intensity as you did at Pali I think you guys will really impress more people.

Neil Kramer is reffing as is Daniel Kramer.

Also regarding Holding. I called it today for the second time since I started reffing. This time though it was so blatant it couldn't be mistaked. This long pole not only wrapped his stick totally across this attackman but you could see him pulling back as hard as he could, all this in the middle of the restraining box 4 feet from the crease defending against an Iso after getting beat. It's gotta be this obvious most of the time to really call holding.Who are you? also thank you for the compliments...sadly we have been playing poorly ever since that palisades game.Hopefully we will pick it up over this two week break and end our season on a run.Neil Kramer is my teacher and ya I personally think our goalie is amazing...he started half way through last season(fell into the position through necessity)

PlayOn
03-30-2007, 02:13 AM
Who are you? also thank you for the compliments...sadly we have been playing poorly ever since that palisades game.Hopefully we will pick it up over this two week break and end our season on a run.Neil Kramer is my teacher and ya I personally think our goalie is amazing...he started half way through last season(fell into the position through necessity)

I'm the ref from your Culver game last night. That was a pretty interesting game. I've been replaying it a lot in my head. Still, you guys have immense talent for such a small team.

deuce9898
03-30-2007, 02:36 AM
haha hey whats up man....its number 28...
Our team has to work on staying focused/playing under control(I am probably the most guilty of these things on my team =/ )
in case you were wondering, our head coach has suspended himself for our next game after spring break.
my heads still ringing from yesterday, but I guess that's how it goes sometimes.That was the second game I've been shut out this season.Kind of depressing. Again, thanks for the compliments. All of us are really grateful that you ref.

PlayOn
03-30-2007, 03:05 PM
I remember you for sure. That's pretty intense about your coach, let me know if anything more serious happens. I have you guys again later in the season so I'll make sure I keep a better eye on you. You should also consider going to a camp and/or Vail this summer, especially if you want to play in college. I'm going to try to get to Vail for reffing.

deuce9898
03-30-2007, 03:31 PM
Im a senior this year, so the chances of me playing next year on an organized team are pretty slim. My coach just called me and let me know that this is his last year coaching us(he just got married and is moving out to israel), so our assistant coach will be taking over the program.Expect to see some impressive stuff from my school soon....not next year, but soon.
Is the limit for camps/vail based off of age or grade?Im graduating, but I'm 17, so I still want to try and play some this summer.

akahector
03-30-2007, 05:29 PM
I haven't introduced myself.

I'm Derek (#20), and I go to Los Alamitos High School in Orange County. I play D-middie, and I'm a junior. I just picked up lax in October, and I'm loving it. Being a 4th line middie wasn't so hot, so I decided to become a wannabe-playmaker on defense (hustle is everything to me).

The teams we've played are marina, Tustin, CDM, Santa Margarita, and Newport. We beat all of them but CDM, but we're looking forward to seeing them in the playoffs.

5-1, hopefully 6-1 after our game in Catalina tomorrow against Avalon.

Anybody from the Sunset League (South CIF) on here?

hanuman
03-30-2007, 11:55 PM
the 2nd week of april has some headliner games for most of the higher ranked Cali teams (based on laxpower rankings (http://www.laxpower.com/update07/binboy/ratingca.php)):

on 4-12, St Ignatius (#1 in CA) plays Lakeridge (#2 in Oregon), Torrey Pines (#2 CA) plays Mercer Island (#3 in Washington State), La Costa Canyon (#4 in CA) plays Montevista/Danville (#25 in CA),
on 4-13, St Ignatius plays Torrey Pines , LCC plays Lakeridge


Torrey beat Piedmont (#32 in CA) tonight, 6-4

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