View Full Version : Inside Lacrosse's "stick tech"
nemesislax
08-17-2006, 12:24 PM
Ok I realize that this site is owned by inside lacrosse and i don't mean to offend anyone....but i need to get this out.
In the "stick science" pages of the last 2 magazines, the author has showed how to string a "feeder's" pocket and a "shooter's" pocket. Now his pockets seem alright but not nearly as good as some of the ones showed on here. His sidewalls always seem extremely loose and his mesh doesnt even look stretched out. His pocket in the shooter's pocket look like it will be incredibly inconsistent.
I just think that they should get someone writing it who actually strings a good pocket, so that kids dont string their pocket like that and become unsatisfied.
Maybe I'm just a jerk but does anyone else agree?
WoodDuck14
08-17-2006, 12:41 PM
I agree. I saw the 'feeders' pocket (nothing special, just a low pocket with absolutly no whip) and I thought it was pretty shaddy. And i dont know why they are showed-ing (haha sorry nemisislax but i have to) these crappy stringing jobs. I mean my first string job looked as good if not better than these. lets just say who ever is doing these is no kryptic.
DeftGoalie28
08-17-2006, 12:53 PM
I agree also... i just got my issue today and looked at the pocket, and the sidewalls look so loose. They also don't tell you how to even do the top string, they just say something like after you attach the top of the mesh.
laxin21
08-17-2006, 02:57 PM
yeah, ive always thought that those stick sciences werent too great. I really dont like how for one of the pockets (feeders i think). Like nemisislax said, the mesh was barely stretched out and to make it tight at the top they just wrap the string around the hole and mesh, rather than using interlocking. Also at the bottom to give it a low pocket they just use really loose sidewall instead of doubling up. The mesh is gonna stretch out, making the pocket illegal, the sidewalls are going to even out, making the pocket loose and full of whip. They should just have one of us make sticktech, like a monthly contest
czechinthepipes
08-17-2006, 05:35 PM
i actually tried the feeders pocket and strung it just like he did. it is really bad and inconsitant. one sec im hitting corners the next im throwing it over the fence.
PCHSlax5
08-17-2006, 06:53 PM
haha...its funny you'd mention that. Since the moment me and my freind saw that we have been ripping that guy. Someone will string a new stick and while someone else is pounding it they will temporarly form a really low pocket. Then they commence to hold it up with a big grin on their face and say, "Nice feeders pocket man," we've had a lot of good times making fun of that guy and his pockets. But I agree, he is definately not the best stringer they could have.
lax1191
08-18-2006, 11:30 AM
ha...Ian Shure (the "stick doctor') is now on the front page of insidelacrosse.com. How ironic.
laxgod1790
08-21-2006, 03:36 PM
Yeah I hate those stick tech things too. First off the tutorial's are horrible and second off the pockets look like they suck anyway.
cbhslacrossemid
08-21-2006, 05:29 PM
Whats up with the fixing a broken goalie head as well? All he does is show you how to put old mesh on a new head.
NF Lax23----<o)
08-21-2006, 06:24 PM
Ian Shure should stick to custom trad's... he's a beast at those, but as prevously stated he is horrible at mesh. I don't know if he personally writes the tutorials or someone else but whoever writes the words and takes the pictures is horrible at explaining even the simplest of things. I seriuosly don't know a single person with a pocket that looks like either of those.
lVlike
08-21-2006, 06:38 PM
The tutorials are also very very vague.
ColtsLax
08-22-2006, 10:05 PM
Also, if you go to IL's website, and click on stick tech at the top, it brings you to the SDL, i found that Hilarious.
laxkid891
08-23-2006, 03:02 PM
Also, if you go to IL's website, and click on stick tech at the top, it brings you to the SDL, i found that Hilarious.
hahaha yea i noticed that too.....but yea..that bag he strung would have so much whip and be so inconsistent and with him TRIPLING diamonds thats gonna break in WAYYYYYYYYYYY illegal :DOH:
laxdevil666
09-01-2006, 08:17 PM
i actually tried the feeders pocket and strung it just like he did. it is really bad and inconsitant. one sec im hitting corners the next im throwing it over the fence.
thats probably your doing, not the pocket.
slinkyspine
09-02-2006, 02:46 AM
thats probably your doing, not the pocket.
Don't assume what you don't know.
The skipping of the hole will lead to lots of swing, and would be terribly inconsistent. Plus, the lack of whip would make you lose alot of control and accuracy
Tehb2
09-05-2006, 09:04 PM
I think he is just showing some basics on what someone is looking for in a feeders or shooters pocket. He probably just writes out simple instructions, throw's some stringing onto a stick, and uses them for the mag. I dont thing he is a bad stringer, I think he is just making the explanation quick and simple with the basic idea's behind the pockets. Feeders, low and little whip. Shooters, mid to high with more whip. And obviously the quality is going to be bad, he's not going to go out and pound out the pocket, shape it, form it, tune it, and make sure it actually works. He may even have used the same materials in his shooters pocket. Its just so its easy to replicate for someone just getting in to stringing their own sticks. If someone really cared about their stick, they would figure out themselves how to fine tune his instructions.
Simply put, I'm sure he can string far better pockets, his job is just to put out instructions a nooby can follow and learn from.
Agreed they are vague and dont meet the standard of the forums, but i think it was a good attempt, and I like how they promoted the underestimated low pocket in their publication. For someone whos never strungthey were fine. But it would be cool if they put some pockets from the forums in the magazine. Just 1 picture an issue.
MaKiMaKi13
09-21-2006, 03:01 PM
i think his tutorials suck honest opinion, they stink they shouldve just asked one of the mods if they could post some of the tutorials that they've done on here n the magazine
cali feeder
09-21-2006, 10:49 PM
i think his tutorials suck honest opinion, they stink they shouldve just asked one of the mods if they could post some of the tutorials that they've done on here n the magazine
Although I completely agree with you, that would take up too much space, I think.
laxattack1616
09-22-2006, 10:33 PM
i actually tried the feeders pocket and strung it just like he did. it is really bad and inconsitant. one sec im hitting corners the next im throwing it over the fence.
I had the same experience. I tried it the regular way, then restrung in with interlocking instead. It was better with interlocking, but so inconsistent. My shot was never that inconsistent, i thought i just sucked. At least i know now that i dont.
Thank you.
NF Lax23----<o)
11-06-2006, 09:29 PM
I don't know how many of you guys have gotten the new issue but that is how Stick Tech should be done. Great Job by IL to pick McCool. I seriously hope you guys continue like that... that was great.
libertyvillelax
11-06-2006, 10:29 PM
I don't know how many of you guys have gotten the new issue but that is how Stick Tech should be done. Great Job by IL to pick McCool. I seriously hope you guys continue like that... that was great.
Yea, hopefuly he will become the new, permanent "stick doctor".
michiganattack8
11-07-2006, 04:53 PM
idk, i strung up that "penny" or whatever its called and it turned out really nice. i guess that was an exception. :WTF:
mrmccool
11-10-2006, 06:57 PM
thank you guys, i hope you like that pocket. it's really consistant with weather if you take care of it... but hey, i have a question. If you guys could pick what kind of tutorial you saw in the stick tech section what would you want it to be? Not to spoil anything, but theres a dye job on the way...
MaKiMaKi13
11-10-2006, 07:25 PM
i think you start with a basic trad , a lot of people underrate the simple pocket these days, im not subscribed to IL so i have no idea what the Stick Tech in the duke issue has in it , if anyone wants to elaborate youd have my appreciation
cali feeder
11-15-2006, 11:22 PM
thank you guys, i hope you like that pocket. it's really consistant with weather if you take care of it... but hey, i have a question. If you guys could pick what kind of tutorial you saw in the stick tech section what would you want it to be? Not to spoil anything, but theres a dye job on the way...
Pita or a Torpedo, or like a 7-diamond trad.
I strung the Penny pocket, and it is SUHWEEEET. I put in a low pocket and it had absolutely ZERO whip and a quick release and monster hold. The only thing is, it was a bit inconsistent shooting, but then again I only put in 2 shooters and no nylon.
Otherwise, great tutorial. It was easy to follow, and I had no problem stringing the pocket perfectly the first time.
mrmccool
11-20-2006, 02:23 PM
HEY, question. Does anyone have any requests of designs you want to learn to do on a dye job? I'm going to use hot glue, electrical tape, and vinyl stickers and I was gonna see if there were any specific questions on the dye job that people wanted answered...
AttackMan17
11-20-2006, 03:23 PM
HEY, question. Does anyone have any requests of designs you want to learn to do on a dye job? I'm going to use hot glue, electrical tape, and vinyl stickers and I was gonna see if there were any specific questions on the dye job that people wanted answered...
I really want to figure out a splatter where the darker color looks like its under the lighter color.
Like...Instead of yellow, then hot glue and blue.
I would like to get the look of blue, then hot glue, then yellow. (I know you cant dye darker over lighter...But it would work well with a dye I'm planning out)
If its possible at all.
LaxDman62
11-20-2006, 03:30 PM
Pockets and stringers should be taken from the stick doctors section to help people. The ones that guy does seem very basic and is making someone adjust to a stringing that they might not like.
mrmccool
11-20-2006, 03:59 PM
Pockets and stringers should be taken from the stick doctors section to help people. The ones that guy does seem very basic and is making someone adjust to a stringing that they might not like.
That's why they asked me! :agree: And now, I'm here taking requests on what YOU want in the magazine.
As for the splatter dye job, you need to find dye remover. Read the e-lacrosse article on the winner of the dye contest. The dude did a dark green splatter on light green. HOWEVER blue and yellow still don't mix, so i dunno what would happen with your idea.
bpercival
11-20-2006, 05:32 PM
That's why they asked me! :agree: And now, I'm here taking requests on what YOU want in the magazine.
As for the splatter dye job, you need to find dye remover. Read the e-lacrosse article on the winner of the dye contest. The dude did a dark green splatter on light green. HOWEVER blue and yellow still don't mix, so i dunno what would happen with your idea.
I think you need to show goalies some love and do a 12 d tutorial!
cali feeder
11-20-2006, 11:33 PM
I think you need to show goalies some love and do a 12 d tutorial!
Everyone knows that goalies were created for the sole purpose of getting scored on by us attackmen...what are they teaching you at practice?
Haha anyways, a 12D tut (or any goalie tutorial for that matter) would be a great addition. Give them at least ONE issue a year that gives some insight on goalie stringing.
bpercival
11-23-2006, 08:43 PM
Everyone knows that goalies were created for the sole purpose of getting scored on by us attackmen...what are they teaching you at practice?
Haha anyways, a 12D tut (or any goalie tutorial for that matter) would be a great addition. Give them at least ONE issue a year that gives some insight on goalie stringing.
Someday hopefully i will into at a tourny and will deny you on a one on one and will say,"what was that purpose again?" lol and atleast you still think my idea is a good one