View Full Version : Donte' Stalworth-Calling all Iggles fans
malax31
08-28-2006, 09:08 PM
Calling all Iggles fans, the eagles have finally landed a big-time reciever the fans have cried for since that dude that wore 81. To me, this move brings another great threat to the O, gives donovan another weapon to complete his MVP season, and ends the tenures of the likes of todd pinkston and jabar gaffney with the team.
what do all you think about this move?
NewEnglandLaxer
08-28-2006, 09:13 PM
yea im a Saints fan and it is a great trade for the saints and eagles. Both get a need position filled. Stallworth is pretty good and has good speed but drops a bunch of balls. Im excited for Mark and the possible third round pick. He's also not a big time reciever. He is a #2 for every team except yours because u are lacking depth
malax31
08-28-2006, 09:27 PM
i think were going to survive with about 3-5 #2's. Also, we have linebackers comming out of our ears, and make was just an aging vet stuck behind trotter on the depth chart
Hooligan
08-28-2006, 09:52 PM
In the west coast offense, you don't need a high profile wide receiver, all you need are a few people who can catch, and follow blocks. The Eagles have more than enough players at the tight end, wide receiver and running back positions who can fill the need.
I'm not an Eagles fan in any way, and I have to say their team scares me. They have their stuff in gear, and the defense, more than the offense, is the part of the team that will dictate their success.
malax31
08-28-2006, 10:50 PM
In the west coast offense, you don't need a high profile wide receiver, all you need are a few people who can catch, and follow blocks. The Eagles have more than enough players at the tight end, wide receiver and running back positions who can fill the need.
I'm not an Eagles fan in any way, and I have to say their team scares me. They have their stuff in gear, and the defense, more than the offense, is the part of the team that will dictate their success.
One thing your forgot about a WCO reciever is speed is key, but you need percise rout runners to counter. Reggie Brown and Stalworth are the burners, while baskett, avant, and possibly McCants run very percise routs.
and hooligan, who do you like? I'm assuming a team that runs a WCO
unta8
08-28-2006, 11:00 PM
Sorry, but Donte Stalworth is nothing to get excited about..
malax31
08-28-2006, 11:32 PM
Sorry, but Donte Stalworth is nothing to get excited about..
2 words....kurt warner
Donte Stallworth is a good receiver. Shouldn't have been a first round draft pick, and isn't fit to be a #1 receiver on MOST teams. The Eagles have a glaring need at WR and he should fit in well. This certainly helps their offense, but I laugh when people say the Eagles are going to be good this year.
They still don't have a true game changing #1 receiver. Brian Westbrook as a starting RB? Absolutely hilarious. None of their backups are at all dependable either. Their defense looks good on paper but they didn't perform well at all last year.
At absolute best they go 9-7 and finish third in the NFC East. My prediction is 7-9 and dead last in the NFC East.
anyhoo, i do agree with the RB assertion, that they have un-proven RB's (Moats, Buck, etc). I disagree with most of everything else you have to say tho. yes, reciever was a need position, but it was not a glaring need. Remeber how we got to 4 strait NFC title games with todd stinkston and james trash? reggie brown will be a pro-bowl reciever by the end of the season.
and that D that did underacheave last year is heathly, also they had NO pass rush-but look how much darren howard has done already in the pre-season. That front 4 (Kearse, Bunkley, Patterson, and Howard) will alloy trotter to be the best LB in the league this year, along with the secondary returning to their 2004 form
unta8
08-29-2006, 01:13 AM
2 words....kurt warner
More words I wont count..Anquan Boldin, Larry Fitzgerald, Edgerrin James.
unta8
08-29-2006, 01:36 AM
Finally after this season people will see how overrated Edge is. He has never been the same since his knee injury and now not being in a great system like Indy people will finally see this.
Yeah your right I guess Steven Jackson is better.
Hooligan
08-29-2006, 06:05 AM
and hooligan, who do you like? I'm assuming a team that runs a WCO
No, I like the Chargers. I think the west coast offense is bull.
WCO offensive thrive off of high profile recievers. If you look historically, teams that have done well under WCO have usually had a big name reciever. Actually, high profile large bodied recievers do the best to be specific.
While it is true that the west coast offense has produced some huge names in the past, its not necessary you have any. Think about it, after Jerry Rice and John Taylor left San Fran, you had nobodys take over. All of a sudden J.J. Stokes and a very young Terrell Owens took over. They both came into their own, and were able to thrive in this offense. Now, Terrell eventually went on to bigger and better things, but J.J. didn't thrive as well outside of Frisco.
You see this time and time again, the receivers who make stars of themselves with teams with the west coast offense, they don't play as well with the teams who don't. TO is one of the few exceptions.
malax31
08-29-2006, 10:18 AM
Reggie Brown will never be a Pro Bowl receiver. When people are talking up an undrafted free agent like Hank Baskett, you KNOW you have a glaring need at WR.
do the broncos have a glaring need at RB? (Mike Bell, Arizona)
Hank started camp as the #8 reciever (Brown, Gaffney, Pinkston, Lewis, Bloom, Avant, and McCants), and slowly worked his way up-as did mike bell who worked his way up from the #4 RB slot.
SUOrangeSU2
08-29-2006, 10:24 AM
im excited about him. this is exactly what the eagles have been looking for. now lets just see if he performs well on the field.
navylaxfan15
08-29-2006, 11:50 AM
It was a great pick up, but its not going to solve all of our iggles problems. I like Donovan, but he is past his prime and I feel that if he can't prove himself in the first four games, get Garcia in there or even try Chang. Our defense has to re-prove itself, but I know it will. This season won't be lost, but next year should be a time to look at the playoffs.
dillz18
08-29-2006, 11:56 AM
This is a good addition to the team. I think we'll have a good team this year. But defenitly not a super-bowl team. :sad:
ramslac05
08-29-2006, 11:58 AM
i think stallworth is a great addition for donovan mcnabb, but it doesnt put them into the super bowl picture or possibly even the playoff picture in my opinion
MDlaxin69
08-29-2006, 12:54 PM
whatever, redskins are still gonna win the division
malax31
08-29-2006, 05:59 PM
whatever, redskins are still gonna win the division
haha
your just lucky TO will destory the cowboys so that the skins wont take last place in the division
and no, stallworth is no saviour, but i think he is a key peice to the puzzle. also, i think darren howard will have a greater influence on the team than stallworth, considering he'll free up kearse and trotter a lot more
BwineLAX42
08-29-2006, 06:12 PM
Can any of you guys name the Eagles WR from when they were 3 time NFC runner-up. If so you looked it up. AND FREDDY MITCHELL DOESNT COUNT. McNabb will get it done he always does and as said above you don't need the big time reciever(but it helps) to succeed in the West Coast offense. And with a healthy defense they should shock some people this year I'm not saying super bowl but a NFC champioship game whould be huge success after Hurricane T.O. rolled through here.
jzlax787
08-29-2006, 06:32 PM
Can any of you guys name the Eagles WR from when they were 3 time NFC runner-up. If so you looked it up. AND FREDDY MITCHELL DOESNT COUNT. McNabb will get it done he always does and as said above you don't need the big time reciever(but it helps) to succeed in the West Coast offense. And with a healthy defense they should shock some people this year I'm not saying super bowl but a NFC champioship game whould be huge success after Hurricane T.O. rolled through here.
james thrash and todd pinkston played with them then
I have Stallworth on my fantasy Football team in the TLF League. Im hoping for some big numbers from him.
malax31
08-29-2006, 08:10 PM
Can any of you guys name the Eagles WR from when they were 3 time NFC runner-up. If so you looked it up. AND FREDDY MITCHELL DOESNT COUNT. McNabb will get it done he always does and as said above you don't need the big time reciever(but it helps) to succeed in the West Coast offense. And with a healthy defense they should shock some people this year I'm not saying super bowl but a NFC champioship game whould be huge success after Hurricane T.O. rolled through here.
James Thrash, Todd Pinkston, Freddie Mitchell, Antonio Freeman, Billy McMullin, chad lewis, and duece staly just off the top of my head. i know im missing a few but you get the idea
Irishlax22
08-29-2006, 08:22 PM
whatever, redskins are still gonna win the division
Umm i wouldnt over look the Giants. ELi is looking really really good.
flyersrule9733
08-29-2006, 11:18 PM
It was a great pick up, but its not going to solve all of our iggles problems. I like Donovan, but he is past his prime and I feel that if he can't prove himself in the first four games, get Garcia in there or even try Chang. Our defense has to re-prove itself, but I know it will. This season won't be lost, but next year should be a time to look at the playoffs.
what are u talking about???? mcnabb is 28 or something like that. just because he had a bad year last year (he was playing hurt all year) doesnt mean hes past his prime. mcnabb is easily still one of the top 5 QBs in the league. he doesnt need to prove anything. the only way i would bench him besides injury is if the eagles go 0-10, then ill bench him.
anjang86
08-30-2006, 12:06 AM
mcnabb is easily still one of the top 5 QBs in the league.
Pardon me? "easily"?
Most of you guys here are overlooking the fact that McNabb is still QB for the Eagles and his play dictates the success of the team. How can the same person who asks "name some of the WRs from Eagles teams that went to back to back NFC championships" in the same breath say that having Dante Stallworth matters? He's a good WR but he will make this much of a difference if McNabb isn't going to get the ball to him:
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I don't think McNabb is a good QB. I don't think he's vocal enough to be a leader on this team. He's run into a lot of bad luck throughout this career and him trying to be PC about everything just ruins his image to begin with. He's lost his confidence as far as I'm concerned.
If the Eagle OL doesn't pass-block, McNabb is going to fold under the pressure. Him and the Eagles do not have enough fire to lead the toughest division in the NFC.
BwineLAX42
08-31-2006, 09:20 PM
but the Eagles have a very good O-line probably one of the top 5 when they are all healty.
lax1191
08-31-2006, 09:28 PM
Goo Eagles!! I'm lovin' the move and with a healthy Donovan McNabb noone is better. Donovan can run and pass with the best of them and he's not that old. I also believe that he is the smartest QB in terms of when to run and when to pass. Players like Mike Vick and Vince YOung look to run before they pass while players like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are pretty much pure passers (even though the PAts are my fave team along with the Eagles). Donovan McNabb is the man.
This has nothing to do with the Eagles, but Laurence Maroney of the PAts is a beasst!!!