whos the most influencial player in the lacrosse world today?? [Archive]

Lax101

09-22-2006, 04:39 PM

I agree with Cslax about it being hard to choose. But for me it is Chazz Woodson(look him up if you don't know) because he wasn't the richest kid growing up if you know what I mean. It gives me motivation.
Uhhh...the Powell's weren't so rich either when they grew up. And have you met Chazz? He isn't the most charming guy...and he's hardly a quality player in the MLL. Hate to rain on your parade.

Any reason on why this is in the International Forum? I'm going with Gary Gait...by far.

How is Mikey Powell going to attract fans to the game? With Salmon Pink and Creme colored shirts? You can't make a difference when you're sitting on the sidelines pushing a bankrupt lacrosse company. Fans loved the acrobatic moves, yes-but can they see those now? Is he involved at the college level? Pro field level? Indoor level?

Yes, Gait's currently on the sidelines now, but fans and players alike can look back at all that he's done for the game, and what he's still doing for it now (coaching, working with the NLL outdoor league, pushing STX). And how about his storybook ending at the ILF Games? That's what fans like to see. He was the acrobat before Mikey. He was the Syracuse Stud before Mikey. He was the #22 before Mikey. He's done everything Mikey's done, and he's still doing things as Mikey has gotten out of the game.

lslaxer

09-22-2006, 05:17 PM

Yes, Gait's currently on the sidelines now, but fans and players alike can look back at all that he's done for the game, and what he's still doing for it now (coaching, working with the NLL outdoor league, pushing STX). And how about his storybook ending at the ILF Games? That's what fans like to see. He was the acrobat before Mikey. He was the Syracuse Stud before Mikey. He was the #22 before Mikey. He's done everything Mikey's done, and he's still doing things as Mikey has gotten out of the game.
I agree with you that Gary Gait was one of the pioneeers of lacrosse, and one of, if not the, greatest player ever. But the question was who is the most influential today, and i would say more young lacrosse players have heard of the powells than gary gait, and the powells are on tv, and their own heads, and dvd's etc. So, in my opionion, the Powell brother are the most influential players in the lacrosse world, and as for Chazz guy, how can he be the most influential when most people haven't heard of him?

Lax101

09-22-2006, 05:31 PM

I agree with you that Gary Gait was one of the pioneeers of lacrosse, and one of, if not the, greatest player ever. But the question was who is the most influential today, and i would say more young lacrosse players have heard of the powells than gary gait, and the powells are on tv, and their own heads, and dvd's etc. So, in my opionion, the Powell brother are the most influential players in the lacrosse world, and as for Chazz guy, how can he be the most influential when most people haven't heard of him?
I disagree. I'm not too old of a guy, and when I began playing lacrosse, I heard of the Gaits immediately. And this was way after their days at Syracuse. And in response to all of the Powell's claims to fame that you cited:

-The Powells are NOT on TV-they didn't play in the MLL this year, except for Ryan, and Ryan plays in a small lacrosse market. But who was on TV this year? Gary Gait, nearly in tears, leading Team Canada to the biggest upset in ILF history. And Gait was as much of a presence in the MLL as the Powells were. Plus, he had the box game, where the Powells are widely ridiculed.
-Their own heads? That's only Mikey. The Pulse and Truth were supposed to be signature Powell heads, yes, but the Warrior lawsuit prevented that. And doesn't Gait have his own line of gear, which is arguably much more successful and simply better than the Mikey Powell line? Gait has his own head, gloves, shoulder pads, and arm pads.
-DVD's? Who actually buys those? They're not blockbuster hits. If you want a successful, popular, and simply great lacrosse DVD, then look at Millon's Offensive Wizardry.

TRITON

09-22-2006, 06:12 PM

I agree with lax101, even the kids just coming into the game have heard of Gary Gait and know his move. Gait was on the TV lots this yr not only winning the World Cup for Canada but also winning the NLL title as head coach of the Mammoth. Im sure the powells are doing their thing but there is 3 of them and only 1 Gary Gait.

I think you know my answer for the most influential lacrosse player on the planet today.

laxmcc

09-24-2006, 08:42 AM

connor gill is beginning to b quiet influencial in the mll these days, with his awesome drives and his deals with warrior

just a thought

Crimdad

09-24-2006, 08:53 AM

Powells are big, very big Gait is a legend that never will be forgotten, It is hard to judge because they aern't done with lacrosse yet, Gait is pushing Stx as mentioned above, Powells are working on lines with Brine, It can go both ways but Gait(after the world games) is done and Mikey Casey and Ryan still have some gas in the tank to keep playing so this is more of an opionion on who has done the best, but I think we can all agree that they have done a tremendeous amount to help the game and they should both be respected to great lengths

rebellax

09-24-2006, 09:23 AM

spenny

09-24-2006, 11:51 AM

doesn't gary have a brother? so there is 2 gaits and 3 powells you can't back up a gait say theres only one and then ya know have it turn out that theres 2 gaits and that you don't know what your talking about

can you try that one again, it doesnt make any sense to me.

if you want to get technical, neither gary or paul are currently active players, but i'm going to ignore that because gary was an active player within the last 90 days, and the next most eligible person is so far removed from the level of influence of either of them have had on the game that they arent worth considering.

i'm the same age as the gaits, we graduated from college and HS in the same years, to i had a really good view of the world of lax pre and post gaits. the 2 of them have reshaped the game, from their play on the field to the changes they have made to equipment (hockey laces as throwing strings... non-existant to being on every stick, etc.)

BClax17

09-24-2006, 01:21 PM

Wayne Gretzky hasn't played in 7 years and every young hockey player still wants to be him.

Gait is everywhere and until someone matches what he's done, he'll always be the best.

rebellax

09-24-2006, 09:45 PM

he said that there was only one gary gait and that there were 3 powells but gary gait also had a brother that played lacrosse his name is paul. so you can't say there is only one gait when there is paul and gary
all of them gaits and powells are all influential it really matters what area your from up north its probably more gait North east its more likely powell becuase there from NY and not canadia

ruke

09-25-2006, 03:29 AM

I guess the Mikey Powell is just as big as he is because of warrior...they have a huge media coverage!

ca180sx

09-25-2006, 09:49 PM

Mikey Powell is big because he is a showoff and impressive to watch.

Gary Gait is legend.

rampartmiddie

09-26-2006, 10:22 AM

The powells are very well known, but i think there are guys out there who are comnig up, and are sure to influential soon. They don't have the commercial deals like the powells, but their playing style is sure to have an impact on lacrosse. For the moment however I believe the powells have the title of most influential (who currently play).

Brodie Merril. He is a work horse both in box and field. Stand up guy that can do it all.

And after seeing Jeff Zywicki come up big this summer in the world championships, and having a great season in San Jose last winter, he might be somone that young guys can look up to. IF you don't know the name check him out; almost had a hat trick in every game he played in (NLL).

BigKLaxer

09-26-2006, 10:45 AM

Just a correction to what Lax101 said. Gary Gait doesn't own the Gait line, his brother Paul does, so technically he doesn't have his own gear.

Mikey Powell seems, to me, to be the most influential player as of right now. As soon as I started lacrosse, in december of last year, I knew who MP was. I googled lacrosse, came to his trick site, and thought to myself, I wanna be just like him and be able to do all of those fancy moves. As I got better at lacrosse and saw all of what MP has done I began to think of him as a show off and not a player I want to look up to.

So, yes, I think MP is the most influential player right now, but I don't think it is for the right reasons. He attracts the kinds of kids who just wanna do cool tricks and think they're all that just because they carry a stick, even if they don't play. I think that MP is attracting the kind of lacrosse players that will change the games image from that of respectable guys playing a not well-known sport, to a bunch of ostentatious and irresponsible guys playing a very well known sport. That's just my opinion.

scarsdalelax08

11-29-2006, 04:26 PM

im gunna have to go with gary gait everything hes done players on all levels try and copy, all his moves me and my friends try and practice them like i have only done the move where u jump from behind the net and score without touching inside the crease once out of like 1013202345 tries hes so influencial and in my opinion is the greatest lacrosse player of all time

RockStar

11-29-2006, 04:52 PM

Gary Gait, hands down. Revolutionized the way the game is played (indoors and out), and revolutionized the way equipment is built and used.

Now that he can't play quite like he used to, he's even proven himself to be a solid coach at every level he's tried.

........to the changes they have made to equipment........

Including adding your favourite advantage (offset), well before offset heads even hit the market! Gotta love a technological advancement based on a blowtorch and a pipe bender!

Gee, I wonder where DeBeer got the idea for the canted Phantom shaft, or where STX got the idea for the Crapshaft.

goalie1215

11-29-2006, 04:53 PM

another reason for gary gait is #22. i mean how many people wear it just because he wore it? all the powells for one (or three if you wanna get technical)

Lax r us

11-29-2006, 04:56 PM

Uhhh...the Powell's weren't so rich either when they grew up. And have you met Chazz? He isn't the most charming guy...and he's hardly a quality player in the MLL. Hate to rain on your parade.

Any reason on why this is in the International Forum? I'm going with Gary Gait...by far.

How is Mikey Powell going to attract fans to the game? With Salmon Pink and Creme colored shirts? You can't make a difference when you're sitting on the sidelines pushing a bankrupt lacrosse company. Fans loved the acrobatic moves, yes-but can they see those now? Is he involved at the college level? Pro field level? Indoor level?

Yes, Gait's currently on the sidelines now, but fans and players alike can look back at all that he's done for the game, and what he's still doing for it now (coaching, working with the NLL outdoor league, pushing STX). And how about his storybook ending at the ILF Games? That's what fans like to see. He was the acrobat before Mikey. He was the Syracuse Stud before Mikey. He was the #22 before Mikey. He's done everything Mikey's done, and he's still doing things as Mikey has gotten out of the game.

I completly agree with you.

Corduroy

11-29-2006, 05:30 PM

Both Past Players: David Morrow & Kip Faulks.

These guys are the power brokers behind the game today and wield enormous influence. Just go check out the clobber and the equipments 90% of the lax community are using.

Peace
Roy.

bluedevil49

11-29-2006, 09:10 PM

Just a correction to what Lax101 said. Gary Gait doesn't own the Gait line, his brother Paul does, so technically he doesn't have his own gear.
Guess you haven't heard of the G-force line of gear from STX then.

IMHO Gary Gait is the most influential in terms of on field play, but as far as the most influential player in lacrosse world, what Roy said above.

Corduroy

11-29-2006, 09:49 PM

BD49 - GG has without doubt been a revoultionary in our game. On a gobal scale though - Warrior and Under Armour are the two big names synonomous with lax, both of which were founded by lax players (Morrow & Fulks). When 90% of the players are wearing STX, G-Force pads and using DeBeer sticks as well as as having naming rights to all of the major premier lax events and leagues on the planet I will review my opinion. That said - Morrow is a smuck and has nothing in GG as an all round nice guy!

Peace,
Roy.

bluedevil49

11-29-2006, 10:30 PM

Okay I guess I should clarify my previous post as, after review, may be misleading.

Guess you haven't heard of the G-force line of gear from STX then.
This was in response to BigKLaxer post about Gary Gait not having his own line of equipment

IMHO Gary Gait is the most influential in terms of on field play,
Refers to who I believe has the biggest on field influence of the game.

but as far as the most influential player in lacrosse world, what Roy said above.
Means I agree with what Corduroy said about who the biggest influences are in the world of lacrosse

laxpigmi2005

11-29-2006, 11:04 PM

hhmmmm i thought this thread wasnt gonna be a "he is better, no he is better" fiasco! lol

Im not saying i dont like the powells, or gill, or any good lax player for that matter

BUT

Gazza Gait is at the top! a true hero in every aspect of the game.

Everything anyone can do, Gait can do better.

Hally

11-30-2006, 12:32 AM

Wayne Gretzky hasn't played in 7 years and every young hockey player still wants to be him.

Gait is everywhere and until someone matches what he's done, he'll always be the best.

Well said and i totally agree
Lax Players young and old know the gaits, the powells only have names because the are fancy. dont get me wrong they are still awesome players and have done alot for lacrosse.

but the gaits will be legends forever

Warriors26

11-30-2006, 03:40 AM

Everything anyone can do, Gait can do better.

Sorry Correction everything anyone can do, Gait has DONE!

laxpigmi2005

11-30-2006, 04:58 AM

ummm yeh... ok

lax008

12-01-2006, 02:36 AM

I think mcclax asked who was the most influential PLAYER in THIS day an age. not the most inflential lacrosse company owner.

laxmcc

12-01-2006, 04:28 AM

I think mcclax asked who was the most influential PLAYER in THIS day an age. not the most inflential lacrosse company owner.

cheers mate.
what i ment was the players that are actually taking the field every week for their team and working their asses off to be there

thanks

killalax

12-02-2006, 04:34 AM

Mikey Powell clearly, I have recruited 20+ people to lacrosse with videos of Mikey in action. :bartmoon:

Corduroy

12-02-2006, 05:52 PM

With that clarification - I'd have to say ME!

sticktrix 34

12-02-2006, 06:04 PM

guys think about it, mikey powell has two heads and some 160+ gloves. what has he done to be influential. Stealth sidewalls, wtf. think about gait. almost every peice of modern equpiment used something he started. in fact mikey powell is using gaits ideas. so think about it

endoftheline

12-02-2006, 11:26 PM

For Non-Players
Whoever invented the offset head, he/she/they have had a fairly big impact on the game. Also the founder/s of the MLL would have to be up there in terms of increasing the scope of the game.

RockStar

12-03-2006, 07:44 AM

For Non-Players
Whoever invented the offset head, he/she/they have had a fairly big impact on the game.......

Gaits didn't invent the head, but they were key in making it's benefits common knowledge.

Way before offset heads existed, the Gaits were using custom-canted shafts.

rockstar13

05-23-2007, 05:31 PM

tom ryan i was in 2nd grade and i went to a wings game and all i can rember is him tearin the place up

BIG GUNS

05-25-2007, 04:28 AM

nathan pobega is one of the most influencial players in the world...best face-off ive seen in ages and has a good shot...shoots it bout 40km/h

piglet

05-26-2007, 08:07 AM

What about Alex Smith from Delaware. I think he is the best face off man in the World at the Moment. His stats are incredible.

laxdude136

05-26-2007, 10:41 AM

he is good, very good, i wouldnt say influential though

villelax35

05-27-2007, 07:57 PM

jim brown would have been had there been more videos around that time. Its a generational thing. Gait by far was the guy for his generation. and powell is somewhat for the next generation. There are tons of young stars that still have a lot of potential. A lot of kids on my team look up to mister k18.

D3Goalie9

07-04-2007, 10:27 AM

How is Mikey Powell going to attract fans to the game? With Salmon Pink and Creme colored shirts? You can't make a difference when you're sitting on the sidelines pushing a bankrupt lacrosse company. Fans loved the acrobatic moves, yes-but can they see those now? Is he involved at the college level? Pro field level? Indoor level?

Yes, Gait's currently on the sidelines now, but fans and players alike can look back at all that he's done for the game, and what he's still doing for it now (coaching, working with the NLL outdoor league, pushing STX). And how about his storybook ending at the ILF Games? That's what fans like to see. He was the acrobat before Mikey. He was the Syracuse Stud before Mikey. He was the #22 before Mikey. He's done everything Mikey's done, and he's still doing things as Mikey has gotten out of the game.

What do you mean Mikey Powell is sitting on the sidelines not playing lacrosse? He's playing for the Boston Cannons in the MLL and just had the most insane goal of all time. There's a video of it on Inside Lacrosse. And besides which he is currently on the U.S. National Team with both of his brothers. Have you been living under a rock???

I'm not saying I think he's the most influential, but you need to get your facts straight.

wz3

07-04-2007, 11:46 AM

Things change... He wasn't playing 9 months ago when that was posted. Claiming that he plays now and ignoring everything else in the quote doesn't do much.

Wooks

07-04-2007, 01:27 PM

Wayne Gretzky hasn't played in 7 years and every young hockey player still wants to be him.

Gait is everywhere and until someone matches what he's done, he'll always be the best.

Same with Jordan in basketball :thumbsup:

bigdale9

07-04-2007, 02:06 PM

mikey powell HE's EVERYWHERE
EDIT: left out gait... the greatest of all time

Jesse

07-04-2007, 07:58 PM

What do you mean Mikey Powell is sitting on the sidelines not playing lacrosse? He's playing for the Boston Cannons in the MLL and just had the most insane goal of all time. There's a video of it on Inside Lacrosse. And besides which he is currently on the U.S. National Team with both of his brothers. Have you been living under a rock???

I'm not saying I think he's the most influential, but you need to get your facts straight.
Look how long ago that post was made....