ALL 2006

[mrg16]

Ok maybe everybody is holding back, but I am really surprised there has been no discussion on the upcoming ALL.

I'm sure each state believes they have a chance this year with rumours about Australian players being unavailable.

So anybody have any ideas about the teams?

And are any of our esteemed forum members playing this year? I'm talking about you Cannon!

[pumba]

Got any dates?

[Warriors26]

Personally i like the concept of the ALL having watched the first year and played the second. I think it lacks in the area of Sponsership, and when it is played After all the state seasons have finished. The best way to get a crowd to lacrosse is word of mouth through the clubs which if played when it is cannot happen(not everyone is as dedicated to the game as the people on the forums). Also this buissnes of cost splitting is all good in theory if you play all for 3 years. if you play for one like myself you end up paying 800 dollars for a weekend away where is the cost sharing there.? just a few bugs to be ironed out and the tournament will be sensational maybe a few byes in the year were the teams go for a weekend not affecting club comps by there loss of the star players

[OffensiveThreat]

Have the Vic, Wa or SA teams been named yet...if so who is playing?

[Doski]

Any news on telecasts of ALL, highlights program?
It's hard enough getting people off their bums and into the grandstands for games, having something on Toyota World Sports, Sports Tonight, Any Given Sunday etc.. will definitely bring attention to people who still think lax is a glorified field hockey.

One of my few memories of lacrosse on TV unfortunately is a punch-up in 'play of the day' i think...many years back.

[cannon]

Griff,

Mate, unfortunately im not playing. I came back from the States and Europe lacking in cash and with Uni work piling up (and a bit 'laxed out') so I gave it a miss.

As is customary in World Cup years the teams will be a bit flat and this will make the Vics less dominant. As far as im aware the vic team is not finalised

[aussielax]

Griff,

Mate, unfortunately im not playing. I came back from the States and Europe lacking in cash and with Uni work piling up (and a bit 'laxed out') so I gave it a miss.

As is customary in World Cup years the teams will be a bit flat and this will make the Vics less dominant. As far as im aware the vic team is not finalised

It was picked a few weeks ago, the team just hasn't been training.

[endoftheline]

does anyone have the team list?

[cannon]

aussie, yeah i know they 'picked it'...but i dont think there are 23 players in the team yet. as far as i know it looks like this

Gk:
S. Garnsworthy
A. Bosisto

D:
Tokarua
Nyberg
Welsh
A. Gloutnay
J. Beadle

M:
D Arnell
R Stark
B Newman

A:
T Garnsworthy
D.Stiglich
N.Stiglich

...thats all i can think of off the top of my head

[endoftheline]

lol fair effort think your forgetting some midfielders is D. puscavietis in there?

[pumba]

D, Niccholos Excuse bad spelling

Absoloutly dominnated face off in elthams win 3rd year in a row over williamstown

[cannon]

pumba, you sure? i heard yesterday that he wasnt playing

[aussielax]

aussie, yeah i know they 'picked it'...but i dont think there are 23 players in the team yet. as far as i know it looks like this

Gk:
S. Garnsworthy
A. Bosisto

D:
Tokarua
Nyberg
Welsh
A. Gloutnay
J. Beadle

M:
D Arnell
R Stark
B Newman

A:
T Garnsworthy
D.Stiglich
N.Stiglich

...thats all i can think of off the top of my head

John Beadle has left the country so he isn't in it and add Clinton Lander and Jason Masi to that list as both were picked and i think they are both goin to play.

[cannon]

ok cool...good to see lander playing. he's not flashy, but he gets a job done well.

who is Masi aussielax? is he an import?

[aussielax]

ok cool...good to see lander playing. he's not flashy, but he gets a job done well.

who is Masi aussielax? is he an import?

Yeh Jase is our american import, He is a d-man he played for trinity in NCAA D3 in the earley 90's.

[endoftheline]

josh naughton keeps talking about Vic training i'm not sure if thats for the seniors mens do you know gazza?

[Aussie_kid]

yeh i think he is in it, well he's be selling the tickets, so i am 90% sure he is in it

[pumba]

pumba, you sure? i heard yesterday that he wasnt playing

Sorry i thought they where saying who they think would be in...... I have no idea havnt seen him since Super Sunday. He proberly isnt playing thou

[fairy]

been a change in goals. balfour is in I think

[Aussie_kid]

so vic have three keepers now? how is that viable

[cannon]

It could be that scooter's back is playing up, forcing him out, or, through lack of numbers they have decide to put Bosi on defense (which he is reasonable at) and bring Balfour in as a back up. Good to see Balf get a chance, good guy and good goalie.

[endoftheline]

Really Bosi in defence should be good. He fancies himself a bit with a short stick lol.

[igloo dweller]

victoria begin training this wednesday night, and it'll be interesting to see who is actually in the team, because i dont have a clue. during trials, scott garnsworthy was the only definite from the vic members of the aussie team.

other players who are likely inclusions: mic rodrigues (caul), aaron onofretchook (willy), josh naughton (i got no idea, malvern?), tristan tomasino (willy), adam townley (caul)...but any of these players could have dropped out/not been picked. i'll find out wednesday night and report back.

[12345]

Gk:
S. Garnsworthy
A. Bosisto


No Tillo?

Also, any word on the SA team?

[Corduroy]

WOW - Sounds like a solid team.....not! No wonder the SA boys are talking uo their chances this year. May just have to pull on the turf monsters one last time myself..!

[cannon]

No Tillo?

Also, any word on the SA team?
Dont think Tillo tried out, which is pretty much the case across the board!

And which is basically why they should scrap the interstate comp in World Cup Years. Well at least some other faces will get to don the Blue and slap around the Sandgropers and Croweaters :chuckle:

Come on 'roy, do it....i'd pay the entrance fee for that laugh.

[fairy]

let's keep it positive fellas.....whoeva they select deserves our support wehn they are wearing the Vic top. goin for the 3rd runnin....

[Corduroy]

Fairy - stop being a FAIRY. Everyone knows that this Vic team is tantamount to the one years back that went to Perth, where the D was headed up by Skinny from Altona of all people. Give me a break. I agree with Cannon. Scrap the comp in the WLC year. History has shown that every fourth year the comp is a farce. Hell, if the likes of Naughton, Rodrigus et al, and the C'well import are getting a gig it becomes embarrasing, particulary for those of US who have busted our tails and made a legit team.

Cannon, if I'd have thought you were trying out, id have definately come down to whip a coupel past your ear lobes at practice...:-)

Roy.

[cannon]

Fairy - stop being a FAIRY. Everyone knows that this Vic team is tantamount to the one years back that went to Perth, where the D was headed up by Skinny from Altona of all people. Give me a break. I agree with Cannon. Scrap the comp in the WLC year. History has shown that every fourth year the comp is a farce. Hell, if the likes of Naughton, Rodrigus et al, and the C'well import are getting a gig it becomes embarrasing, particulary for those of US who have busted our tails and made a legit team.

Cannon, if I'd have thought you were trying out, id have definately come down to whip a coupel past your ear lobes at practice...:-)

Roy.

It is probably in some ways a good thing to have the lesser lights getting a gig in the ALL environment. Roy, this team clearly isnt last years team but not quite so bad as perth 2002 or Adelaide 2003. In fact it gives someone like Aaron Onofretchook a chance to play up to his potential which has been stunted being a small forward at Willy.

There are a few things in the works to shake up lax in Victoria (stay tuned) but one would be to ditch the ALL in WLC years and play a 3 way comp between the 3 winning State league teams from each state. This might actually save the ALL concept as it will ensure that there is greater talent, energy and marketability of the event.

Things that a rare and of quality are worth alot more.

[fairy]

agree cannon, vic lax well ovadue for a shakeup! some of their actions/reactions very questionable at the very least-some outright nuts.
grow up n start thinkin of the big picture roy

[igloo dweller]

interesting views for and against. i personally dont think the ALL needs a year off in world cup years. there are still numerous national players playing, besides - a 'second string' vic team of non-aus team players would still put on a quality performance, and expose these second tier players to similar competition from other states. the trick is to get the 2nd tier to trial when the star players arn't around.

players who didnt trial for victoria or play aus
henderson, blair pepperell, andy whit, gene kehoe, wayde k, young ham, smackey, morlang, matt garnsworthy, josh robinson, marty and jules hyde, blake and matt taylor, lachlan ross, tillo and wombat, miles, mcinerny, rhiann barr, spready, rhys thompson, carl menze, sabian j...you'd have a reasonabley healthy and worthy team, and these guys would be better for the experience...there's me 2 bobs

[fairy]

strengthening a second string will help grow the game and add to the experiencial depth of ANY state- and that's what we need!
the world cup years can be viewed positively as an opportunity for these 2nd tierers-

"there is no reality, only perception" so these years may be treated as either building years, or a farce as Roy has chosen to regard them. the challenge is an equal one for all states.

[bluedevil49]

Also, any word on the SA team?
Just got back from Canada Friday, but I'm heading out to training tonight. From what I've heard, we are light on for short sticks.

Will keep you posted

[fairy]

good luck bluedevil!! Vics still look strong on paper- despite all the to ing and fro ing on this forum

[bluedevil49]

Victoria, unlike us other states, has a fair bit of depth. Should be an interesting series.

[igloo dweller]

just quickly, at vic training last night were -
Gk:balfour
D: cam shep, myself, al gloutnay
M: Arnell, Newman, Chamberlain, Tomasino, Naughton, Rodigues, Clinton L
A:Townley, onofretchook

If theres a Vic lefty on here wanting to play, we could do with at least one!!!! Theres only 18 people in the team now - T Garnsworthy pulled out because his broken wrist isnt healing. Stiglich's were never in the team.

[cannon]

With my recent right handed attack success i'm pretty sure I could handle playing lefty. ALL and divi 2 cant be all that different can they?

[gm5]

cannon sign up i like playing on lefties

i promise i will play nice

[cannon]

gm.....why do i not trust you :)

[pumba]

Stiglich's were never in the team.

Dosnt supprise me. After spening so much money to go to canada and having time off work i dont think they could afford to go interstate a couple weekend in a row

[bluedevil49]

Dosnt supprise me. After spening so much money to go to canada and having time off work i dont think they could afford to go interstate a couple weekend in a row
I can relate to that. Just on costs, how much is it for Vic and WA to play in this series? For SA, we've been told it will be $1785.

As for the team, I was playing short stick all night if that's any indication how few short sticks have been out.

[pumba]

Yeah no idea how much for vic to play. But even after the time they took of work that costs them aswell.

[cannon]

Dates taken from: www.lacrossevictoria.com.au

Australian Lacrosse League

2006 MENS SENIOR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS
Come along and support the Victorian Senior State Lacrosse Team defend the ALL Championship.

State Netball & Hockey Centre,
Brens Dve, Parkville.
7.30pm

Friday 27th October, 2006
and Saturday 28th October, 2006

Victoria vs Western Australia

Before the main game our U15 representative sides will compete for the 2006 Victorian U 15 Regional Championships from 4 PM each day.
Tickets available from your club,The Lacrosse Shop, Australian Lacrosse Supplies and any of the Victorian State players

Pre Sold tickets $5
Tickets at the Gate $10

No Concession Tickets are available.

[igloo dweller]

we're paying $1100 - the VLA is paying the other half

[Corduroy]

Not sure why Tillo would waste his time after the way Dave Joy shafted him last year. He was clearly the next best GK after Scooter, but blood is thicker than water after all and family ties did prevail. Maybe Dave can recruit Joffa back from WA.

Things must be desperate down there, when I get a phone call from the coach requesting me to pull on the turf monsters. Unfortunately work and.........just won't allow.

[cannon]

Balfour and Bosi are the keepers. No need to recruit Jeff.

But that said. It was very hard last year. Jeff played real well in the ALL 'Roy.

[whistleblower]

Tillo still should of been picked!

Although I didn't get to play against Tillo this year...I think he now holds the Goalie crown in victoria!

[cannon]

So...Griff, BlueDevil....your teams look like what?

my guess at a few names:
Sandgropers:
Waz Brown, Griff

GM5, Reigar??

Rainey, Goddard, Sear, Blackie...

i gots no idea

SA

C. DeMello

that is all

haha, cmon boys, spill the beans

[mrg16]

Cannon

Good start with WA except Blackie is not playing.

Also have Cahill, Leavy on D and 12345 making his debut.

A few guesses on the SA side...
DeMello
Gillbert
Stone
Munro
Wapper

Goalies?

[bluedevil49]

Honestly fellas, I'm not holding out. I just don't know. I think they may have named the team on Sunday, but I was in Melbourne (Aussie box camp).

Will let you know, when I know. But I suspect that some of the names will be new to you (Some were new to me when I went to training last week).

[cannon]

WA D and goalie line looking quite strong then it would seem.

SA have some bloke who's name was new to me (and has escaped me), 21 year old guy from North Adelaide.

[igloo dweller]

We got this ALL thing via our team manager, ill have to do it in three posts

South Australia
No. Name
1 Nigel Wapper
2 Scott Gill
3 Ryan Stone
4 Jeremy Kirkwood
5 Clint Barker
6 Ryan Gaspari
7 Brendan Twiggs
8 Shane Gilbert
9 Aaron Lawman
10 Blake Alford
11 Jason McKinnon
12 Russell Cunningham
13 Nathan Bolton
14 Phil McConnell
15 Anthony Munroe
16 Chris DeMello
17 Anson Carter

[igloo dweller]

WA
No. Name
1 Warren Brown
2 Gavin Leavy
3 Tom Cahill
4 Ben Tippett
5 Glenn Morley
6 Jason Battaglia
7 Shaun Leavy
8 John Casey
9 Adam Delfs
10 Phil Scott
11 Nathan Rainey
12 Adam Sear
13 Alex Brown
14 Jesse Stack
16 James Watson-Galbraith
17 Ben Reiger
19 Nathan Roost
20 Travis Roost
22 Brad Goddard
23 Mark Griffiths
24 Tim Kennedy

[igloo dweller]

Victoria
No Name
1 Alistair Gloutnay
2 Rob Stark
3 Ben Newman
4 Clinton Lander
7 Cameron Shepherd
8 Josh Naughton
9 Damian Arnell
10 Keith Nyberg
11 Chris Welsh
13 Robert Chamberlain
14 Tristan Tomasino
15 Michael Rodrigues
16 Aaron Onofretchook
17 Jason Masi
19 Anthony Bositto
21 David Balfour
22 Adam Townley
24 John Tokarua
Marty Hyde

[endoftheline]

good to see John Tokarua on there for the Vics.

[cannon]

WA have the most even strength team there methinks.

Vics are strong on D and 1st midfield.

SA only have 17 players? whose to come i wonder?

Lots of unfamiliar names there hey?

[bluedevil49]

SA only have 17 players? whose to come i wonder?
16 now. I pulled out due to financial constraints. As for who is to come? That's the same question that the Coach and the Manager are asking.

[Doski]

So teams are pretty much all set, any new faces to look out for this year?

[bluedevil49]

16 now. I pulled out due to financial constraints. As for who is to come? That's the same question that the Coach and the Manager are asking.
I've worked out a payment plan with the team manager, so I'm back in. All be it with a short stick. Kind of strange that I'll get to play short stick middie for my state before I play for my club.

[lax.com.au]

good to have you back on board DM.

[thunder_15]

looks like its gonna be good

[JESUS_braves.8]

i think w.a have a good enuff team this year to take it out... we have warren brown as goalie from baysie, and he also went to canada as starting goalie, we have glenn morley in defence also from baysie hu is i think the best long pole in w.a... there are a crap-load more than that, tahts just a couple form baysie...

is thunder_15 the goalie from thunder this year and last for 15's???

[thunder_15]

nah thats jamie. i was bench coach, goalie warmeruperer and played in the 17s

[laxmcc]

for the vics, what about eugene desmond??

[fairy]

Eugene is into athletics now- not sure if he will play again

[laxmcc]

but he played oz doesnt that mean he has to play ALL?

and hes playing for melbourne in 2007 isnt he?

[fairy]

unknown at this stage if he will play 2007

playing for oz holds no obligation to play in the ALL

[cannon]

Desmond is in the US. Just livin. Its Chris Williams doing athletics.

[fairy]

Desmond is in the US. Just livin. Its Chris Williams doing athletics.

u right cannon- wiggles runnin :dummy:

[lax.com.au]

All the Australian Lacrosse League results and stats from this year, and the last 2 years can be found at http://www.laxscene.com/ (http://www.laxscene.com). The site has officially gone online today, after being in development for over 12 months.

Enjoy.
gilly.

GO SA!!!!!

[whistleblower]

This is a sweet website...how long has it been running???

Can't believe I never knew!!

[cannon]

it just started. look out for some upcoming opinion pieces and thanks to Scotty Gill lacrosse in the nation finally has a decent web portal!

[laxorgy]

checked out the site cannon, very good, about time someone who knows how set up a decent site, did.

[lax.com.au]

i hope everyone from wa is coming down to the uwa sports park tonight for the WA vs SA game, anyone wanna take photos of the game for me?

[swankylaxer]

All the Australian Lacrosse League results and stats from this year, and the last 2 years can be found at http://www.laxscene.com/ (http://www.laxscene.com). The site has officially gone online today, after being in development for over 12 months.

Enjoy.
gilly.

GO SA!!!!!
Nice site my man, congrats on a job well done. I can see this site being used by coaches and players to scope the competion and scope out possible players for state and Aussie teams.

Are you going to be doing any news items or anything like that on there or will it be to cover games and stats only?

[Creaseman]

Just heard from my brother who is at the game...and it's half time... WA lead SA something like 8 or 9 to 0....

[swankylaxer]

Just heard from my brother who is at the game...and it's half time... WA lead SA something like 8 or 9 to 0....

ooouuuuuccccchhhhhhh!!!!

W.A. do look pretty strong on paper. Especialy with the added strength of Nathan Roost in attack.

[Creaseman]

Final Score WA 14 SA 4 or so I am told...and a real blowout by what my brother says...

Warren Brown in goals tonight...tomorrow it is Griffo's turn....

[lax.com.au]

I will be having articles and news items on the site soon, i ran out of time before getting on the plane to perth, but keep checking back the site as it will keep getting better. also making some contacts over here in the west and should have wa stats from 2006 coming soon.

back to the ALL, any injuries from the wa camp?
besides normal soreness everyone seems to be in good shape from SA.

seeya out there tomorrow night

gilly.

[12345]

W.A. do look pretty strong on paper. Especialy with the added strength of Nathan Roost in attack.

Didn't add anything last night, he pulled a calf before the game and didn't play.

[Creaseman]

Well Game two hase been played and the result very similar to last night...

It was 16 - 8 in the end another win to WA... I am not sure of the goal scores for both teams but Anson Carter bagged 5 for SA.

[laxpigmi2005]

Marty Hyde! you superstar!

terrific player. Glad he made the team!

Brings finesse to the line up.

[cannon]

This week's ALL might be the last chance to see the best two young players in the nation, Ben Newman and Adam Sear, tough it out against each other for quite some time.

[Corduroy]

Just needed his partner in crime there Jules!! Why aren't you running around out there??

[laxpigmi2005]

I dont know mate. Im still paying debts off for the last time i made victoria! haha, nar im joking.

Im concentrating on getting my knee back on track. Over the years i have had bad problems with my knee. As soon as i start performing for my club, then i guess i will have a crack at state in the near future. Good luck to searsy, benny newman and marty.... they are all freaks at the game and lovely to watch.

[cannon]

been headbutting too many goalies eh jules? haha

[Shooter McGavin]

Hey Bluedevil49,
It's Howler here buddy ... I'm wishing now I put my hat in the ring for The Reds now, would be good playing some quality ball and rippin' some shots. I heard the costs were pretty steep this year????

[Waps]

Hey Howler
It would be nice to have another big gun out there. You could also be reserve keeper!!

[bluedevil49]

Yeah, what Waps said. Costs will continue to come down through fundraising. Can we interest you in some Coopers Vintage?

Anyone want to have a guess at this weekends scores.

WA 12 d. Vic 9
Vic 14 d. WA 12

[Shooter McGavin]

so how many are in the squad? it seems weird not having any representation from woodville this year ... I think I would rather be firing cannons than facing them out there, my Goalie duties are over for now any way, Charles is fronting up again next year which puts me back into the attack line ... I'm itching to pull the trigger!!! Wouldn't mind a run against the Vics.

[thunder_15]

i say first game Wa 80 Vic 2, second game Wa 100 Vic 5..... nah i donno. aslong as its not the same as last years end result ill be fine with it. hopefully its close

[cannon]

Vic D is strong and has enough size to cover Rainey. Watching Newman, Sear, Brown, Blackie, Hyde, Tomasino and Chamberlain is going to be fun as well.

here's hoping igloo dweller can weild the axe with effectiveness!

go vics

[laxpigmi2005]

THE BIG V , GO YOU GOOD THING!

[thunder_15]

THE BIG V , GO YOU GOOD THING!
please dont say that again. quoting hot dogs should be band, no just on this forum but anywhere. hahaha

[wolves_lax 11]

Vic D is strong and has enough size to cover Rainey. Watching Newman, Sear, Brown, Blackie, Hyde, Tomasino and Chamberlain is going to be fun as well.

here's hoping igloo dweller can weild the axe with effectiveness!

go vics

Nathan isn't travelling with the team for the game tonight. He had work commitments which is a bummer because he brings alot to the WA team with his strength and size.

CARN WEST AUSSSIE !!!!


wolves lax 11

[aussielax]

Vic won 8-6 tonight it was a hard fought match and was 3-3 at half time, I'm looking forward to another good one tomorrow night as well.

[fairy]

great game tonite- well played
get down there tomoro nite if you missed tonite
will be a good one.

[chiefs_lacrosse]

loved the hit by cocky there late in the game, still dont know how we ended up without anyone in the box though.

congrats to vic for the win, i was just glad it didnt go into overtime.

and i hope eddie is gonna sell the dvd of the game, i want it!

[cannon]

igloo dweller did weild the axe last night!...and he also dropped the hammer on some poor bloke from WA in the last qtr, nice cross check.

I thought it was was a pretty average game until the last qtr.

Balfour made some great saves, cocked up the the end on a clear which cost a goal but other than that fairly solid.

Brown made alot of nice saves, his outlets were not on by any stretch last night though.

Newman didn't blow the game apart but did do some freakish things. Sear didnt do alot, but if his shot was on target the game may have been much different. Stark was everywhere, Arnell was too but with less impact. Tokarua was mauling people all night, but legally so. Ben Reigar threw alot of cheap shots and seems pretty easy to get under the skin of.

Goddard , N Roost and Rusty Brown all played well.

[aussielax]

Ben Reigar threw alot of cheap shots and seems pretty easy to get under the skin of.

Yeah he was the first one in there trying to start something after cocky layed Adam Sear out just near the bench.

[aussielax]

Vic won again tonight i can't remember the exact score but there was 5 or 6 goals in it.

[Doski]

11-6 from memory

[Aussie_kid]

yeh that sounds right,
Moments were good for Vic, from memory Chamberlain played well i think he got 1 n 5, had a good feeding night
Newman played preety well, it suprised me when Sear was trying to run him down and sear nearly got him..
The Vic F/O got the majority of the draws so they controlled it well, and the Vic D had a solid game

[gm5]

anyone got some constructive comments from the games last weekend - Cannon ??

and predictions for the VIC SA games this weekend

[Minotaur]

anyone got some constructive comments from the games last weekend - Cannon ??

and predictions for the VIC SA games this weekend


WA needs first use of the ball on the face off. With the strength of Vic's defence and goalie, WA must make Vic play alot of settled defence for big chunks of time, and must capitalise on transition & unsettled goals. WA had alot of unforced errors. What impressed me about VIC was their defensive pressure on the ball, and their long sticks initializing a number of fast breaks. Even their slow breaks(even number transition) looked like fast breaks. Just my two-Bob!

Well done to both teams for making an enjoyable weekend. Good luck.

[cannon]

GM,

WA appeared slow to realise (im going on friday night game) that the Vics weakness is their shortstick D. They were slow to invert the weaker shorties and let the otherwise very strong D of the Vics get settled. When they did take it behind they were successful a few times, especially dangerous looking was nathan roost who has excellent inside game.

Minotaur is right, they didnt win enough ball in the middle and I guess not having Rainey was part of the reason for that. Sear's shooting was off but he also needs to work on his inside game I think, he seemed a little one dimensional.

WA's D was actually fairly good on the friday night but a few very good individual efforts at times paid off.

The Vics need to take Townley off the attack line. Maybe throw him in here and there or on an EMO but otherwise he is a black hole for them. Alot of wasted ball.

Put simply WA can knock off the Vics but they need to isolate the Vics weaknesses better. The glaring weakness is SSDM, but that said, Arnell and Stark managed to put a couple of guys on their bums with good body position.
--

SA are going to have a tough time of it this weekend I think. The scores so far make that patently obvious.

I think our boys lax.com.au and BD49 have their work cut out for them!

[laxorgy]

well summarised cannon
WA will meet VIC in the final and they need to get their shorts behind, if they want to beat them. hopefully it will be a good final. I cant see SA beating VIC, they just dont have the depth.
VIC for me, they will control the ball as they will win most of the face offs.

[mrg16]

Excellent two-bobs worth Minotaur.

We (WA) need to win some faceoffs and get first use. The 2nd game was lost in the first 15mins when we didn't have an offensive possession. 4-0 Vic. We also didn't have an offensive possession for the first 5mins of the 2nd quarter. 6-0 Vic.

The final will be won by the most disciplined team. Less penalties, fewer unforced errors and most time in possession will be the difference between 2 pretty even teams IMO.

[12345]

Can somebody PM me the name + email of the bloke who videoed the Vic/WA games? I'm trying to chase down some tapes, cheers.

[cannon]

Can somebody PM me the name + email of the bloke who videoed the Vic/WA games? I'm trying to chase down some tapes, cheers.

www.auslax.com.au

eddie toomey

[lax.com.au]

Scores and stats are now available for the Vic vs WA games.

Scores will be updated for this weeks games at each quarter.

cheers
gilly.

[gm5]

thanks guys

i look forward to this weekends scores and the big WA win in the final

[fairy]

close game tonite Vic 11 def SA 7 !! interesting

[lax.com.au]

stats are now up.
No live stats tonight, with any luck maybe tomorrow.
gilly

[cannon]

any reports from the game.

Anthony Munro -5 Penalties- yikes..how many EMO goals did vic have?

[fairy]

reflective report I have is that the vics were shockin! played like an entirely different team fr last week. all tired b4 game.
will be diff. tonite.

[AusD]

man shoxs(munro) is the best defender hes from my club hes sick hes got a bag of checks and hits like a coke machine on legs

[cannon]

and the Vics are without JT this weekend.

[fairy]

Vic 21 def SA 4.

[Doski]

Hey guys,
This photo is from the Vic vs WA game last saturday
I thought it was a funny moment so i whipped out my camera phone...hence the quality isn't great.

Wonder what the talk would have been like....."i've got your left, right and back....you take my left and right"

http://www.lacrosseforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6718&stc=1

[lax.com.au]

im hoping wa scored off that play....

stats are up if anyone is looking.

Anyone here playing in the u19 squad which i hear will be playing against SA this coming afternoon before the VIC vs WA final?

gilly.

[igloo dweller]

our trip to adelaide was ace.

the friday night game was ordinary from a victorian perspective, 11-7. a combination of tiredness, boredom (we got to adelaide at 9am, killing 9 hours in adelaide is slightly tougher than drawing blood from the metaphorical stone), and complacency, combined with SA's nothing to lose situation led to a close, scrappy encounter. the SA keeper played well - 21 saves said someone. al gloutnay was victoria's best.

the friday night was excellent from a victorian perspective. a few celebratory beers (coopers pale of course, outstanding brew) at enfield RSL conveniently located next to our hotel were followed by a few more in the city somewhere, then plenty more at the grand in glenelg (a suburb that you can spell backwards). poor benny newman was felt up by a gay guy, who then tried his luck on an aggressive looking lebanese fella. the gay guy ended up unconcious. after a bit of a dance the obligatory lamb sandwich with double garlic sauce followed. from here MOST of the guys made it back to the hotel at about 3am. i was not one of them...

the saturday game was better for us, 21-4. more ball movement (too hungover to run said i!), more natural play, and perhaps SA had given up the ghost. igloo was sat by an anson carter hit - adding to what was already an impressive headache. stark was our best, although he got worse as his head cleared. carter was by far SA's best.

bring on next weekend

[cannon]

igloo, what is it with gingernut lacrosse players and getting felt up by blokes in funny cities? i seem to remember a certain citizen was the washington d.c. precint taking a shine to your fine self. i beleive his name was pedro.

well done vics without jt and robbie chamberlain.

[wolves_lax 11]

Anyone here playing in the u19 squad which i hear will be playing against SA this coming afternoon before the VIC vs WA final?

gilly.

gilly we haven't yet found out who is playing. our coach is gonna give us a call during the week to tell us if we are gonna be playing. its gonna be made up of the older guys in the squad who have had D1 or D2 experience in the last few years. also there will be some older guys from clubs coming down and having a run to i suppose just give us younger guys some maturity and experience.

i hopefully will be playing but will have to wait and see during the week. should be a great battle between VIC and WA on the night. looking forward to it a heap.

wolves lax 11

[fightinirish]

What is everybodies flights details into Perth for this upcoming weekend?

it would be nice to put together a decent booze up saturday night aftr the games

[lax.com.au]

sa arrives in perth, 4.20pm friday.

leave hotel 6.30am sunday for airport.

what you got in mind for sat night?

[fightinirish]

not sure yet. maybe get in touch with some good bars in northbridge and get some kind of organised effort going on. might try and get cheap drinks or something. just make sure your guys bring nightclub clothes.

what you guys wanna do??

[12345]

All-Australian predictions? My incomplete team (not having seen the Vic v SA games but reading stats) is:

G: Warren Brown (WA)
D: Tom Cahill (WA)
D:
D:

M:
FO: Robbie Stark (Vic)
M: Ben Newman (Vic)

A: Anson Carter (SA)
A: Adam Sear (WA)
A:

I didn't give guys that only played one leg a guernsey (eg. Tokarua, Rainey, Morley). Except for two (Stark and Carter) there don't seem to be any clear-cut automatic selections this year, so there could be some roughies in there. Can anybody fill in the gaps?

[endoftheline]

some of the vic d should be in there they were strong. maybe al gloutnay as a lsm?

[cannon]

going on what ive seen/heard/read

W Brown

K Nyberg
T Cahill
A Gloutnay

Newman
Stark
Goddard

Sear
Carter
Chamberlain

anyone aware as to wether the performance in the final comes into it?

BTW this means that SA has won only 1 ALL match ever. 1 out of 12 now.

Someone tell SA they need Inge x2, Felleppa, Green, Mortimer, Robb, Lawman...etc to get back into the spirit. And Specky to be coach again.

[bluedevil49]

Typically the All-Star selections do not include the final.

And yes, we have only won one game in the ALL. Pretty disappointing. Has WA ever beaten Victoria? Or is SA's inaugural game win the only defeat that the big v has suffered?

As for getting those guys to play again, who knows what it will take.

I guess they need to find the passion, time or money to do it again. (probably all 3)

[Waps]

Ahhh the great win of '04

[cannon]

can you guys name the teams that were running around when SA won three in a row?

[bluedevil49]

I'll have to check my hatrick T-shirt that has them all listed. I think there was a few of us that played in all 3; Mark Norton, Chris de Mello, Mark Mangan, Anthony Feleppa, Stuart Robb, Robert Lawson and Trent Machner (Sorry if I forgot you)

[bluedevil49]

BTW this means that SA has won only 1 ALL match ever. 1 out of 12 now
On that, what are the records?

SA 1 win - 11 loses
WA 6 wins - 8 losses
Vic 13 wins - 1 loss

Is that right? (Not including the ATP and Queensland games)

[Shooter McGavin]

The big question is ... has SA ever fielded it's strongest side? The Teams that won 3 in a row were pretty strong as was the '04 ALL side the lost most games by 3 or fewer goals after having a half or 3/4 time lead. If you could select the ideal 20 man SA team for next year assuming all players were available to play, who would you select?

[lax.com.au]

OK, mixing info from the legends tshirt and my site here is a run down of the last 6 years of south australian players:

* = Captains

Cameron Adams (bri): 02
Scott Brookes (bur): 02
Andy Burford (bur): 02
Justin Casagrande (wt): 03 - 04, 05
Scott Connolly (bur): 02 - 05
Scott Dawson (bur): 01 - 04
Chris DeMello (stu): 01,02*, 03* - 04, 05, 06
Tim Dickson (bri / stu): 03 - 04
Chris Dindler (bur): 02
Anthony Feleppa (wdv): 01, 02*, 03* - 04, 05
Richard Feleppa (wdv): 01, 03
Scott Gill (etp): 02 - 06
Stephen Goad (bri?): 01
Corey Gower (bur): 01, 03
Wes Green (wt): 01
James Hooper (bri): 02
James Inge (wdv): 01
Peter Inge (wdv): 01 - 05
Dominic Kilderry (bur): 03
Brett Langstreth (etp): 02 - 04
Robert Lawson (gln): 01, 02*, 03* - 05
Wendel Litchfield (bur): 01, 02
Craig Loukes (bur): 02, 03
Trent Machner (stu): 01, 02, 03
Mark Mangan (bri): 01, 02*, 03* - 04, 05
Ben Martin (bur?): 01
Kym Martin (bur?): 01, 02, 03
Michael McInerney (bur): 02
Dave Morris (etp): 03
Anthony Munro (bur): 02, 03 - 04, 05, 06
Mark Norton (stu): 01, 02, 03*
Luke Oswald (wdv): 02
Bradley Pallant (stu/gln): 02
Jarrad Pangrazzio (wdv): 03 - 04
Leigh Perham (bri): 01, 03 - 04, 05
Stuart Robb (gln): 01, 02*, 03* - 04, 05
Aaron Sargent (wdv): 01 - 05
Craig Shicker (wdv): 01, 03 - 04, 05
Michael Sheidow (gln): 01, 03 - 04
Hamish Sinclair-Ross (bur): 01
Glenn Steele (etp): 03
Ryan Stone (stu): 03 - 04, 05, 06
Andrew Stone (stu): 01*
Brett Thompson (bri): 02, 03

2004+ ALL Players

Peter Greenhalgh (gln): 04
Tom Vickery (etp): 04, 05
Marc Stilgoe (gln): 04
Shane Gilbert (bri): 04, 05, 06
Brett Howe (wdv): 04
Nathan Bolton (gln): 04, 06
Nigel Wapper (stu): 04, 06
Anson Carter (bri): 04, 05, 06
Paul Kernaghan (stu): 04

Peter Whitcombe (wdv): 05
Bradley Edwards (bri?): 05
Aaron Lawman (gln): 05
Chris Avery (stu): 05

Clinton Barker (na): 06
Blake Alford (na): 06
Robert Rigg (stu): 06
Ryan Gaspari (na): 06
Brendan Twiggs (na): 06
Jason MacKinnon (bri): 06
Philip McConnell (na): 06
Jerome Kirkwood (stu): 06
Curtis Pettigrove (bri): 06

[bluedevil49]

3 years of winning, followed by 3 years of not.

[fairy]

any speculation on the final result tomoro night?

[gm5]

WA to win by four

wish i was there to help out,

can we get somone to put the result up straightaway so i can check in the morning

gm

[cannon]

Congrats WA on the Win. 14-7.

Anyone want to tell us how it all unfolded?

All-Stars?

Been a while since WA won a senior nationals i think.

[gm5]

nice job boys

i was being conservative with the 4 goal win, guess it was a big party last night in perth

[chiefs_lacrosse]

very surprising, but also vell deserved.

i saw the two games in victoria (VIC vs WA) this yr and if WA were on their game in both those matched they wouldve taken them out. Their poor offence and shot selection must have been fixed in the final.

congratulations

[fairy]

heard that Vics thought it was winnable for 3 quarters-
Stark. Hyde, Shep made the Champ. side. Stark player of the series.

[lax.com.au]

The Australian ALL-Stars Team:
SA: Anson Carter, Anthony Munro, Brendan Twiggs.
Vic: Marty Hyde, Keith Nyberg, Cameron Shepherd, Rob Stark (MVP), Adam Townley.
WA: Alex Brown, Warren Brown, Gavin Leavy, Travis Roost, Adam Sear.
Coach: Travis Roost
Referee: Don Lovett (Vic)

[12345]

I just want to say congratulations to Gavin Leavy and Warren Brown on making the All-Australian team, I think that is approximately 78,000 All-Star teams they have made between them, they have both been absolute assets to the sport and to see both of them retire from competitive lacrosse with a National Championship and All-Aussie selection is absolutely awesome and a truly fitting way for them to go out. And also congrats (to everyone who made the team obviously) but especially Anson Carter, Brendan Twiggs and Robbie Stark; Anson was clearly the best player in the SA team; and Twiggsy, for a young bloke to make the All-Aussie team is great, I don't know the guy but I've heard he will go a long way, I played against him in the 19s this year where he also went All-Aus, top effort. And for Starky to back up his performance in the Worlds with a Hobbes medal is sensational. (By the way, did anybody notice all three of the ALL MVPs and the last two World Games MVPs have been faceoffmen?).

[Corduroy]

Anyone know who won the Issachean this year. I didn't get the call, so it can't have been me!

[laxorgy]

good on WA for beating an undermaned VIC team. Well done boys. As for the VICS, i think next year they will put their best team in again to win it back.

[cannon]

i think it is fair to say that all teams were undermanned this year.

WA could have had Curran, Morely, Whiteman, Allen, Walker, Blackie just to name a few.

[fightinirish]

who is the issachean between this year??

WA - Wayne Curran
Vic - ????
SA - ????

and while we on topic of retirements, congrats to rolfe kraus who i think referreed his last game on saturday night. he has been one of the best in australia for a while now and the ref standard in WA will definetely lose out with rolfe not returning

[mrg16]

WA's first National Championship since 2000, after losing 4 consecutive finals.

WA got off to a good start and were up 6-1 early in the 2nd qtr. Russell Brown facing off with long pole nullified the dominance of Robbie Stark which hurt us in Melbourne.

Vic rallied and trailed 6-5 at the half. Rob Chamberlain played well, and Vic got a few man-up goals from Stark and Townley....

Everything was in the balance in the 3rd and the 9-7 scoreline at 3qtr time suggested it was going to be a nailbiter.

WA scored the 1st goal off a man-up 10mins in to the last, and then Adam Sear blew the game apart. The game was topped by TLF's own 12345 scoring a sweet long stick goal with a minute left.....and then a big shut-out 30secs (just)by Griff in the cage :agree:

I suggested discipline would win the game in an earlier post...WA had 5 mins of penalties compared to 12 & 10 in Melbourne...certainly made a difference.

IMHO best for each team:
WA - R Brown, A Sear, W Brown, N Roost, S Leavy, A Brown
Vic - R Chamberlain, B Newman, K Nyberg, R Stark, D Balfour

R Brown & A Sear inseparable for BoG

PS - James Inge won the Isaachsen I believe

[OffensiveThreat]

VIC - Daniel Stiglich
SA - James Inge (I think)

[ALL Fan]

mrg16 - I thought Nyborg played a shocker in the final, he was turned inside out so many times by young Alex Brown and others he played on and was one avenue for scoring through. The DVD of the final will certainly be worth purchasing just to review how good WA played and their game plan was so different to when they went away, the Vic coaching side didn't counteract what WA was doing. Victoria were scoreless in the last quarter - been a long time since that happened. Well done WA.

[fogolax03]

i would like to congratulate gavin leavy on his achievments , he is a quality human being and deserved all star. i have known gavin for 20 years and he is a underrated player! carn the blueboys!!!!
go u sandgropers!

[lukeoz]

jimmy inge did win the isaachsen this year, the second time he's done it

check this link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_Lacrosse_Best_and_Fairest_Playe rs)

oz

[OffensiveThreat]

Did any one stand out in the game from WA or VIC?

[ALL Fan]

IMHO Adam Sear was the stand out from WA followed very closely by Russell Brown and for Victoria I thought Marty Hyde was impressive but restrained - by saying that he was eager to shoot on goal but held back on a number of occassions but when he did shoot, they were great cranks. He (and Marty is not alone on this) could have swung the game Victoria's way had he been more agressive. I was impressed with Ben Newman (first time I have seen him play) and he is one of the future playing strengths of lacrosse in Australia. The WA defence played extremely well and held Victoria out high but when Victoria did cut open the defence and get the close in shot they were unlucky on several occassions not to score (some great saves by Warren Brown and were either wide of the target or stick checks by the defence forced the shot astray). You'll have to buy the DVD when it becomes available to see for yourself all the great action this game produced. It was one of the better games of the ALL to date.

[lax.com.au]

Congratulations to WA for taking out the final, and both teams for putting on a good display.

I taped alot of the game, and will try to have some footage up on my site by late tomorrow night. The official DVD will be available at laxscene once it is ready.

Will keep you all updated,
cheers, gilly.

[cannon]

"aint no shame gilly do yo thang, just make make sho you ahead of the game"

will you also be selling that unofficial paris hilton dvd on laxscene?

[aussielax]

will you also be selling that unofficial paris hilton dvd on laxscene?

Why bother? everbody already seems to have their own copy of that one.

[cannon]

haha, true aussielax, true

[gm5]

fogo

i share your sentiments exactly, loosing gav leavy, and Waz at the same time is a huge loss to the WA team, and both will be sorely missed as players and team leaders - i just hope waz hasnt pulled the pin on Baysie he was looking good in attack at the end of last season.

carn baysie

[fogolax03]

waz is playing attack? what is this world coming to? next u will be telling me joffa is making a comeback! are u headed to the states?

[gm5]

yeah already here, living up in seattle, coaching HS and working in a lax store

[cannon]

gm are you coaching mercer island?

[laxorgy]

Victoria cant have been unlucky, in my opinion you either finish the job or you dont. Look at the world games, Australia missed so many chances when shooting on the crease. Its just representative of aussie lax. and it shows up and costs them on the world stage.

[Devils-Advocate]

are you saying it was just poor shooting that cost victoria the title

[igloo dweller]

poor shooting, poor decisions - this is poor lacrosse, but didnt cost VIC the title. WA played too well for us - they won because they raised their game to a level that VIC couldnt match. and...

we couldnt match rusty...stark and lander dominated the H&A games from the face-offs - WA changed this by putting rusty at the X - who responded with a best on ground performance. his game denied VIC possession. he scooped enough first possessions, and virtually ensured that VIC had no clean possession, quite an effort considering he was against newman, stark and tokarua's midfield line.

sear's game was very good, scoring game breaking goals in the 4th and some nice outside shots on EMOs. but sear wasnt BOG. he just shaded warren brown for third best on ground - daylight (or floodlight) was second behind rusty.

the battle for best youngster in the country finished at a 2 all draw. newman won the victorian games, but sear pulled out a good one for the final...

i was pleased the VIC could hit back after being jumped 6-1. the 14-7 scoreline wasnt quite the indication of the game (some garbage goals, followed by junk time goals when VIC's D had to push bolstered WA's tally).

finally...perhaps its a red-head conspiracy - but how did newman not make the AA team? 12 points (7g, 5a) from puts him behind only stark in midfield scoring, but his midfield play and 527 ground balls should have got him a gig on their own. if he didnt play a better series of games than at least 6 of the AAs, then im a rubber chicken.

[fightinirish]

I agree with you 100% igloo. how ben newman failed to make the allstar team left me absolutely stunned. he should have been one of the first players chosen. early in the final when we got a run on i thought it was newman who sparked the Vics into action. he was awesome on the groundballs. at one point i flicked a faceoff towards our attack line only to have newman come through intercept the ball and score fast break the other way. he was very unlucky not to be an allstar

the other unlucky player i thought was brad goddard. brad was awesome between the lines for WA and his speed in offence was an asset to WA. there were definetely a couple of questionable selections in the allstar team.

[Devils-Advocate]

newman , goddard and who else could/should have made the all stars? dare i ask who shouldnt?

[fogolax03]

gm-whats the name of the store? i am working for lax unlimited! starting to get rather busy!! i know there is a store called big foot lax in portland! any east coast visits in store? how long are u here for?

[gm5]

hey mate i am here for the next two years, with many visits east, i am booked in for the coaches convention, and Mercer Island where i am coaching always travels east duuring the season.

the store is breakaway sports, in Bellevue seattle, and we have just had our first morning of sunshine since i got here - missing the perth summer already

[lacrosselover]

gm - let me know if your ever in baltimore, we should catch up

[fogolax03]

i am pretty sure that i am going to be at the convention and if u are ever in long island look me up brother! we can do it freo up style! let me know if u dont have my no.
enjoy the rain mate!

[laxorgy]

fogo are you with the lizards again next year and are you going to try otu for the indoor team

[fogolax03]

i am coaching with the lizards again this year, and if u are talking about the aussie indoor team, i am seriously considering it!!

[gm5]

fogo if you nominate i will go in we can hold training sessions for aussie transplants in the mid west

[bluedevil49]

Guys, you should both put your names down. Getting quality players in this team will make all the difference. It doesn't matter that neither of you have played box, because I'm sure you would both bring differnt strengths to the game.

GM5, portland ain't that far away. When is their tryout?

fogolax03, any chance of you trying out for the titans?

At least register on the aussie website or get in touch with Ric Benedirk