best 10 players under 20 yrs old [Archive]

laxpigmi2005

10-11-2006, 02:09 AM

aussielax

10-11-2006, 02:32 AM

Ok i'm not quite sure about all the ages of these guys but in think they are all under 20.

Gk: Ryan Sparks

D: Josh Robinson
D: Alistar Glutonay
D:
D:
D:

DM: Ben Muxlow
DM: Zammit/Tim Lane

F/O: Jules Stow (next season when he comes back and actulay plays lax)
F/O: Gilbert

M: Ben Newman
M: Adam Sear
M: Glenn Anderson (if he can learn to shoot)
M: Jules Hyde
M: Jimma

A: Loius Blackie
A: Paul Marshal
A:
A:

EDIT: I'll finish it off later once i have a think about it.

cannon

10-11-2006, 02:42 AM

yeh good pick.

it would be good to see all those guys play all together one day.

Chris Williams has given up lacrosse to persue his dream of making the olympics as a sprinter.

I saw him briefly about 3 months ago and thats what he said.

Yeah he ran a 12.5 in his first effort a few weeks ago. The kid is a beast. Lets hope he comes back to lacrosse one day. Perhaps after the Beijing Olympics.

Minotaur

10-11-2006, 04:11 AM

aussielax

10-11-2006, 05:08 AM

Stow who???? Go Eastside!

Oh so you have forgoten all about the 03 eastside team you coached and all the kids that were in it?

Minotaur

10-11-2006, 06:04 AM

Stow on face off???....aussielax, if I had to take a face off man from that team, it would be gene kehoe, hands down....memory failing already?

endoftheline

10-11-2006, 06:34 AM

isn't alistair gloutnay 21?

swankylaxer

10-11-2006, 07:59 PM

Kehoe, hydes(pl), Chamberlain, Sear, L. Andrewartha, glutonay, newman, hammy, O'neil, Luke Kos, Perry, Kerr jr, Wiltgren, r. sparks, Tim Ryan(goals), Jay(goals) Southern Cross.....Stow who???? Go Eastside!

Got to agree there Minotour although some others I would add are, Mitch Johnson, B Pettigrove (S.A), Tim Chainey (W.A) and Tim Lane.

swankylaxer

10-11-2006, 08:02 PM

Sorry I forgot one....L Graff when he is healthy

dta06

10-11-2006, 08:19 PM

Delete post

Minotaur

10-11-2006, 08:57 PM

Absolutely L. Graff. And Pettigrove....good choices.

And NO, Aussielax, I have not forgotten the 2003 Eastside team! I had a great time coaching them and being part of a fun Adelaide trip. But that wasn't the question posed about "face off players". Peace.....

sround444

10-11-2006, 09:38 PM

the white brothers

chief lax 21

10-11-2006, 09:41 PM

some w.a players (you vics need to start lookin outside your own state!)...
Ben Tippett (18) - W.A.L.A Div 1 All-Star defence;
Alex Brown (19/20) - W.A A.L.L starter 2004;
Adam Sear (18) - for obvious reasons
Blair Coggan (17) - W.A.L.A u/17 MVP 2005 & 2006
Stuart Bentley (17) - Wembley's 2nd top defender; captain of 06' Thunder
Stuart Walker (19/20) - Aus u/19 Development Team 03; Wanneroo MVP 05'
Sam Williams (19/20) - W.A. A.L.L Goalie 06'
Ryan Sparks (18/19) - Played 2 years high school lax in USA
Lewis Blackie (18) - 06' u/19 National All-Stars
Rhett Johnstone (19) - 06' u/19 National All-Stars
Mitchell Farr (19) - o6' u/19 National All-Stars

Players to watch: Ian Berry, Matt Diver, Simon Fleet, Lachlan Walker (115+ goals in 14 games!!!), Steve Stojkos, Matt Hugill, Josh Mullens, Sam Ramsay, Max Sadka, Callum Ripper-Seebes, Andrew Crisp, Ian Ward

Doski

10-11-2006, 10:11 PM

in my division i came across a talented guy
C. Mero of Chadstone, if they had a coach he'd definitely be even more of a standout no?

piperlax

10-11-2006, 10:24 PM

Got to agree there Minotour although some others I would add are, Mitch Johnson, B Pettigrove (S.A), Tim Chainey (W.A) and Tim Lane.

johnson yes, brock mybee. lane n chainey bit to young to say there in the best u20s. there still in there mid teens

swankylaxer

10-11-2006, 11:17 PM

johnson yes, brock mybee. lane n chainey bit to young to say there in the best u20s. there still in there mid teens
Actually Matt Kerr and Adam Wiltgren who have already been named are younger than both Chaney and Lane so why not name them. They are the same age as alot of guys that have been named.

swankylaxer

10-11-2006, 11:25 PM

Sorry sometimes forget how young some of those guys are. I've already named Berry and Diver....Brown, Sear and Blackie obviously.

Don't count much for playin high school lax in U.S. a stack of kids from Vic have all played over there at high school and I still haven't named any of them. Same goes for U/19 all-stars some guys are picked simply to keep everyone happy at the loss of some far better players.

chief lax 21

10-11-2006, 11:54 PM

yeah ill agree with that swankylax, the way the u/19 all-star teams are picked can be pretty controversial at times especially when (as was almost the case with the vic u/19 team this year) the top 3-4 longpoles are all from the one team. with that in mind tho, ben tippett is a gun long-pole (personally i find him the hardest player in w.a to dodge on) and should make some noise in the a.l.l this year. coggan, sear, bentley, brown, walker and tippett id rate as w.a's top 6 under 20.

vic def has the biggest talent pool at the moment tho prob due to the amount of teams it fields in div.1 (state league). alot of junior players in w.a find it hard to make the transition from juniors to seniors almost entirely because there are only 5 teams, most of which have pretty decent line-ups and they find temselves just tossed in amongst the mix. props to vic lax for developing their juniors better than we do!! (don't tell anyone from w.a i said that haha)

chief lax 21

10-12-2006, 12:13 AM

by the way, lachlan walker's only 13 so still a few years from bein a threat in seniors

Aussie_kid

10-12-2006, 01:54 AM

in my division i came across a talented guy
C. Mero of Chadstone, if they had a coach he'd definitely be even more of a standout no?

yes i argee, that would help his game a lot

12345

10-12-2006, 04:17 AM

From the lineups you guys have put up I'd say most of the Vics don't really know how much talent there is in WA, some of the Vic players in your lineups pale in comparison to many of the WA guys who could be in their place, and the West guys you have included are often way way way off being near the cream of the crop, it seems like they are just the names you've remembered from the National Champs. I'm not trying to have a go here, but I just think this hypothetical team wouldn't be Vic-dominated at all. (I'll try think of mine later when I'm not in a rush).

Doski

10-12-2006, 04:18 AM

oh yeah what happened to J.Egan of MCC, he was a star on his team a couple of seasons ago

swankylaxer

10-12-2006, 04:48 AM

No we Vics do know that W.A produces some very good talent but we unfortunately only get to see them at National tournaments/championships. And of course the one's that we remember are the guys who stand out in those games. We can't include guys in our lists that we haven't seen perform.

Same from your end hard to comment on guys from Vic or S.A that you see for only 1 week a year.

TheDungaStyles

10-12-2006, 05:03 AM

there are a couple of young lads in tassie that have some mad skills but just lack game experience-probably puts them a couple of years behind everyone else in the country but Llewyn Tubb, Kyle Austin and Nicko Kuhn given the opourtuntity and experience would go alright in your top sixteen.

Minotaur

10-12-2006, 05:16 AM

Ok guys, lets not go too young here. Vic has some outstanding 13-year olds also who saw action in the recent under 15 tournament. Callan A.(Metro) and Thomas J.(Tigers) - both from Footscray, and Griffin Jenney (Eastside & Surrey Park) are all accomplished players who will no doubt make an impact in years to come. But lets keep this list real and relavent. These 13-year old young whipper snappers can try out for the under 19 national squad in 2012!

12345

10-12-2006, 06:12 AM

Here's the team I'd choose (in alphabetical order within the positions):

GK: Ryan Sparks (WA)
GK: Sam Williams (WA)

D: Alistair Gloutnay (Vic)
D: Andrew Ham (Vic)
D: Dean Lawrence (WA)
D: Josh Robinson (Vic)
D: Chris Williams (Vic)

M: Blair Coggan (WA)
M: Jason MacKinnon (SA)
M: Ben Newman (Vic)
M: Adam Sear (WA)
M: Stuart Walker (WA)

FO: Shane Gilbert (SA)
FO: Jules Stow (Vic)

A: Lewis Blackie (WA)
A: Alex Brown (WA)
A: Robert Chamberlain (Vic)
A: Nigel Morton (SA)

As you can see, most of the guys in the team are around about 20 years old (20 this year means they would be eligible). The youngest is Blair, who is an absolute gun and will start at the '08 Worlds. I reckon all the guys there slot in pretty nicely, the lack of SA guys is just because I reckon the West and Vic guys are a bit stronger overall. I couldn't think of a fifth attackman to fit in with the four there, any candidates?

endoftheline

10-12-2006, 06:50 AM

Last time i talked to sparksy he wasn't playing goals anymore and i'm pretty sure he played attack in the US.

swankylaxer

10-12-2006, 07:03 AM

got to say guys, Jules Stowe hasn't played to much in the last 2 years and plenty of other Vic face offs can beat him regularly and do better up and down the ground. The likes of Anthony Rodrigues, Gene kehoe use to beat him comfortably, Pat Mcgrath Campbell. I'm sure there are plenty of better face off's in W.A. too.

12345, Gene Kehoe could fill the spot on attack. He is still 17 and played state league for Surrey in attack and averaged 1 goal and an assist per game. So not bad for his first year playing seniors. He's very smart, quick with good vision and one hell of a work ethic.

swankylaxer

10-12-2006, 07:07 AM

hey 12345, would Marty Lawrence still be under 20 he's a pretty good face off.

Minotaur

10-12-2006, 07:42 AM

Nice job 12345. How many on this list will qualify for the under 19 squad for the 2008 world games? Are some of them too old for the games? Swankylaxer, I think you're spot on with Gene Kehoe.

aussielax

10-12-2006, 08:10 AM

got to say guys, Jules Stowe hasn't played to much in the last 2 years and plenty of other Vic face offs can beat him regularly and do better up and down the ground. The likes of Anthony Rodrigues, Gene kehoe use to beat him comfortably, Pat Mcgrath Campbell. I'm sure there are plenty of better face off's in W.A. too.

Umm no they can't, I've played with Jules for years now and none of those guys have even been able to regularley beat him in the draw.

He has realised he isn't all that good at rugby so he will be back on the lax field full time next season.

12345

10-12-2006, 08:21 AM

hey 12345, would Marty Lawrence still be under 20 he's a pretty good face off.

Marty hasn't played seriously I think since the 2004 U17s, but you're right, he was a good faceoffman.

How many on this list will qualify for the under 19 squad for the 2008 world games?

Just Blair and (I hear) Nigel.

swankylaxer

10-12-2006, 04:42 PM

Umm no they can't, I've played with Jules for years now and none of those guys have even been able to regularley beat him in the draw.

He has realised he isn't all that good at rugby so he will be back on the lax field full time next season.
I've coached against him for many years and Gene Kehoe never had much trouble beating Jules

wittyno12

10-12-2006, 11:22 PM

GK: Ryan Sparks (WA)
GK: Sam Williams (WA)

D: Alistair Gloutnay (Vic)
D: Andrew Ham (Vic)
D: Brendan Twiggs (SA)
D: Josh Robinson (Vic)
D: Chris Williams (Vic)

M: Paul Marchall (SA)
M: Jason MacKinnon (SA)
M: Ben Newman (Vic)
M: Adam Sear (WA)
M: Will pickett (way under-rated by anyone outisde of sa) (SA)

FO: Shane Gilbert (SA)
FO: Jules Stow (Vic)

A: Lewis Blackie (WA)
A: Brock Pettigrove (WA)
A: Robert Chamberlain (Vic)
A: Nigel Morton (SA)

Id say Brendan Twiggs and Will Pickett should definently be in there..hugely underrated outside of SA circles i reckon, both of them made the u19 all stars team this yr......

aussielax

10-13-2006, 01:10 AM

I've coached against him for many years and Gene Kehoe never had much trouble beating Jules

When was the last time gene actulay took face off's? He has been playing attack for a few seasons now hasn't he?

And well you have your opinion i have mine, I don't think either of us are going to budge, So we will just have to wait until next season and see how it turns out on the field.

aussielax

10-13-2006, 01:13 AM

Marty hasn't played seriously I think since the 2004 U17s, but you're right, he was a good faceoffman.

Faceoffman or Fighter ?

swankylaxer

10-13-2006, 01:14 AM

When was the last time gene actulay took face off's? He has been playing attack for a few seasons now hasn't he?

And well you have your opinion i have mine, I don't think either of us are going to budge, So we will just have to wait until next season and see how it turns out on the field.
Gene took face off's last year and then inverted to X to run the offence.

I agree we will agree to disagree.

swankylaxer

10-13-2006, 01:19 AM

Yeh I rated Picket in one of my earlier posts, great player. I don't know who Twiggs is though, who does he play for over there so I can have a look at his stats. I wasn't at the U/19's this year so was not sure who played.

swankylaxer

10-13-2006, 01:25 AM

sorry I rated Picket in the "Under 19s 2008 World Champs" thread

bluedevil49

10-13-2006, 01:53 AM

Twiggs is a long stick Middie. He also made U/19 All-Stars in 2005. Good player. As for that 5th Attackman, Pickett is a quality player.

morelax

10-13-2006, 02:31 AM

what about caleb hall he has played in alot of teams and played state league for eltham all year

chaddylax

10-17-2006, 08:12 PM

what about robert gloutnay or even Dane kowal in the face off position. I saw both of them play in the u/19s and both of them gave shane gilbert a clinic.

chaddylax

10-17-2006, 08:29 PM

Zammit is woeful, he parades around in aussie gear abd can barely catch and throw.

chaddylax

10-17-2006, 08:33 PM

he is only 20

chaddylax

10-17-2006, 08:35 PM

L. Graff great skills and knows how to play. But is very soft and wont go in for the hard fought ground balls.

chaddylax

10-17-2006, 08:43 PM

Defence
R Sparks/K Morse (if he drops the kgs)
A Gloutnay :crazy:
J Robinson

Short Sticks
A Sears :guns: :guns:
S Gilbert
B Newman :guns:
T Tomasino
R Gloutnay :guns:
B Muxlow
J Hyde
P Kenner (orinally from camberwell but now plays in W.A, only player named that has a shot that rivals B Newan.)

morelax

10-17-2006, 09:33 PM

nah I dont rate r Gloutnay At all to short and soft

Warriors26

10-17-2006, 11:04 PM

Glad to see my name isnt in here turned 20 this year winning our clubs Best and fairest in state league whilst having the national player of the year and state mvp James Inge in the same team not blowing smoke up my own arse but i think i could slot in there somewhere. Glad to see my name so it will be a shock when i make 2010 Aussie team OH YEAH :clap:

mrg16

10-17-2006, 11:50 PM

I heard that Peter Witcomb guy is pretty good :agree:

Hally

10-17-2006, 11:58 PM

well you are wrong that kid quit a couple of years ago he used to be alright

bluedevil49

10-18-2006, 12:20 AM

I heard that Peter Witcomb guy is pretty good :agree:
well you are wrong that kid quit a couple of years ago he used to be alright

Hally, are you talking about the same guy? Cause if you are then he is still playing.....Glad to see my name isnt in here turned 20 this year winning our clubs Best and fairest in state league whilst having the national player of the year and state mvp James Inge in the same team not blowing smoke up my own arse but i think i could slot in there somewhere. Glad to see my name so it will be a shock when i make 2010 Aussie team OH YEAH :clap:
.....and active on this board.

Well done Whipper. To win B & F at Woodville is a pretty tough thing to do given the dominance of the Inge's in most of the voting

Hally

10-18-2006, 12:31 AM

yeh who is he playing for

bluedevil49

10-18-2006, 12:39 AM

:read:

As suggested in my last post, he is playing for Woodville.

Hally

10-18-2006, 01:41 AM

oh really i played with him when he lived in victoria i didnt kno he moved
how is playing

endoftheline

10-18-2006, 02:59 AM

Warriors26

10-18-2006, 04:40 AM

I heard that Peter Witcomb guy is pretty good :agree:
oh man i only thought that bluedevil49 knew who i was dam

Warriors26

10-18-2006, 04:44 AM

what about Steve Mundell from Eltham. Only 16 so maybe a bit young but is a gun long stick who has excellent ball control, played state league at Eltham, scores often and just genrelly dominates can play LSM and even face off and i'm pretty sure he was in Eltham under 17's Man up team.

Will be a stand out when he hits the main stage runs hard talks well and has a load of leadership guys follow him i coached him in 2003 at under 15 nationals level and he was our key defenceman

chaddylax

10-18-2006, 05:50 PM

i agree very short but not the softest going around

Hally

10-18-2006, 07:56 PM

true not the softest some of the mcc boys that were named are softer than him

lukeoz

10-20-2006, 01:36 PM

well done on club B&F pete

i've resigned myself to play out my career in the ressies when i get home in march!! although with this heathrow injection it will probably be the Bs!

why aren't there any warriors in the state team this year? is it to do with the baby boom?

laxman0013

10-27-2006, 12:05 AM

i roomed n played with sparky for our senior year at TP. He started off as the starting goalie, but there was another goalie that could play as well...they were playing halves..spark has the bug n wanted more game time...n with his skill he got put out on the field mixed it up with the middies 2nd n 1st string lines.
I believe he is trying out for goalie for the ASPAC next yr...

chaddylax

10-31-2006, 06:39 PM

C.Mero can take face off, but severely lacks in stick skills and shooting

laxpigmi2005

11-07-2006, 05:51 AM

which mcc boys are soft?

aussielax

11-07-2006, 07:25 AM

C.Mero can take face off, but severely lacks in stick skills and shooting

Well that's what happens when your a 20 year old playing Div2.

morelax

11-07-2006, 03:21 PM

all of them

cannon

11-07-2006, 06:01 PM

Well that's what happens when your a 20 year old playing Div2.

what about when you're a 22 year old goalie playing attack in d2. :monkey:

aussielax

11-07-2006, 07:08 PM

what about when you're a 22 year old goalie playing attack in d2. :monkey:

You get a transfer to Camberwell, I'm sure we could fit you in somewere.

mac_daddy

11-07-2006, 10:15 PM

you definately need phil erm. he is a ground ball monster. great midfielder....

Pitsy

11-08-2006, 02:22 AM

^^^ lol at this comment...is this ur net alias Phil? Ermie is a sweet player! Good guy too.

diggity

11-10-2006, 06:19 PM

two players to keep your eye on are ben teasdale and steve mundell.
both with be superstars in a couple of years. they are from eltham i think.
saw mundell play a couple of times this year. killed em!!!!!

lax008

11-14-2006, 03:46 AM

Hes still playing, he had a successful tournement this yr with the vic u19's.

lax008

11-14-2006, 03:56 AM

R.Gloutnay is tougher than all the mcc boys? yer i can see that.

piperlax

11-15-2006, 06:28 AM

R.Gloutnay is tougher than all the mcc boys? yer i can see that.
turn it up son, Ever seen marty hyde puss out of a contest? or julz? n the young fellers in the midline dont take short steps either.

morelax

11-15-2006, 03:48 PM

yeh those guys "puss out" heaps they are all talk

cannon

11-15-2006, 04:56 PM

Leave it for the field boys. MCC has a great crop of young talent. A better cohort than most other clubs in the 16-20 category.

cannon

11-15-2006, 05:00 PM

You get a transfer to Camberwell, I'm sure we could fit you in somewere.
ha! i think camberwell have enough attckmen, ranging from the very good to the very average. you dont need this guy.

aussielax

11-16-2006, 12:35 AM

ha! i think camberwell have enough attckmen, ranging from the very good to the very average. you dont need this guy.

You wouldn't be playing attack, Depends on what happens with Keegan Morse but we may need an SL keeper.

piperlax

11-16-2006, 01:45 AM

yeh those guys "puss out" heaps they are all talk
morelax assuming your from moreland? pretty rich comming from you considering your players run around with their socks pulled up n half a liter of war paint caked on their faces tryen to pull mikey powlle moves.

endoftheline

11-16-2006, 04:39 AM

wonder who he's talking about?

Aussie_kid

11-16-2006, 04:44 AM

why cant you just say who u think he is talking about?

lacrosselover

11-16-2006, 01:07 PM

talent aside - they are really tough kids

fairy

11-16-2006, 03:55 PM

listen to the piper n cannon morelax- a challenge-try n think past yr club and look at the skills n talent of others-you will enjoy a whole new layer of the game you are currently missing out on

cannon

11-16-2006, 05:45 PM

morelax assuming your from moreland? pretty rich comming from you considering your players run around with their socks pulled up n half a liter of war paint caked on their faces tryen to pull mikey powlle moves.

Haha, yeah the eye balck thing. it makes me laugh when guys here use eye black on cold melbourne days playing on dirt and dull grass. Eye black certainly helps if you are playin on astroturf or on the hard shiny fields of Perth. It doesn't make you look tough. That's for sure. But hey, some guys like make up, and if that floats your boat then who are we to judge. :OMG:

morelax

11-16-2006, 08:02 PM

nah mate not from moreland and i totally agree wit the eye shadow it looks F ing stupid

morelax

11-16-2006, 08:03 PM

that is a load. u play hard defence on them and the whinge and it starts with the coach.

lacrosselover

11-16-2006, 11:31 PM

I've played on some of the great aussie lacrosse players and they whinge.....But they don't take short steps

Minotaur

11-17-2006, 12:00 AM

loosey_goosey

11-17-2006, 05:46 AM

People from WA need to remember Jason Kelly. he's been away for the most of this year but is easily one of WA's best face off men and short stick d. the kids only 18 and he is a monster. He lays a body unlike anyone I have ever seen people run full tilt at him and he decks em. Alex Brown is also the cats pyjamas 2006 Senior All star team

loosey_goosey

11-17-2006, 06:03 AM

G: Sam Williams WA or Ryan Spark WA
D: Chris Williams V, Alistair Gloutnay V, Stuey Bentley WA, Ben Tippet WA
M: Adam Sear WA, Ben Newman V, Blair Coggan WA
F/O: Shane Gilbert SA, Jason Kelly WA
A: Alex Brown WA, Luis Blackie WA, Robbie Chamberlain V, Marty Hyde V

lacrosselover

11-17-2006, 12:55 PM

What about best players between 20 and 25?

Now there is a discussion..........A s*** load of good players at that age.....But attrition rate is also very high....

cannon

11-17-2006, 08:13 PM

Hmmm Between 20-25

Well for starters the best must include the guys in the Aussie team:
Eugene Desmond, Josh Ardossi, Wes Green, Kim Delfs, Ryan Garnsworthy, Dan Pusvacieties, Leigh Perham (how old is he?)

others that went close to that team:

Stephen Mortimer, Matt Price, Chris Tillo, Jeff Joy, Jason Brammal, Rhian Barr

others to consider:

Anson Carter, Nathan Rainey, Jesse Stack, Cam Adams, Aaron Lawman, Rhys Thompson, Mat Taylor, Blake Taylor, Jake Shephard, Chris Welsh, Chris Miles, Nathan Bolton, Brad Goddard, Cam Walker, Matt Garnsworthy, Michael Sevoir, Caleb Hall, Scott Menze, Carl Menze, Andrew Ham, Tyson Dee (age?), Caleb Hall, Glenn Anderson, Jon Reedyk,

there are more but that is a start

the best there as a team:

A:Wes Green, Pusca, Ardossi

M:Garnsworthy, Delfs, Mortimer

D:Desmond, Chris Miles, Rhiain Barr

G i will leave to a non-goalie to call!

LSM: Mat Taylor by a country mile

FO: Rhys Thompson, Cam Walker

lacrosselover

11-18-2006, 08:05 PM

Pez is 24....

I would say that Justin Casagrande could be the best LSM in the country....

swankylaxer

11-19-2006, 12:21 AM

Hmmm Between 20-25

others to consider:

Anson Carter, Nathan Rainey, Jesse Stack, Cam Adams, Aaron Lawman, Rhys Thompson, Mat Taylor, Blake Taylor, Jake Shephard, Chris Welsh, Chris Miles, Nathan Bolton, Brad Goddard, Cam Walker, Matt Garnsworthy, Michael Sevoir, Caleb Hall, Scott Menze, Carl Menze, Andrew Ham, Tyson Dee (age?), Caleb Hall, Glenn Anderson, Jon Reedyk,

Andrew Ham is still only 19, played U19 Vic this year, although I'm sure he would be happy to be named with these players.

cannon

11-19-2006, 01:09 AM

yeah forgot Casagrande, i still take Mat Taylor over him, but maybe cus i've played alodnside Mat since we were 12 . Also: is ham, is good.

12345

11-19-2006, 01:40 AM

Also: is ham, is good.

Haha, nice.

Minotaur

12-08-2006, 07:51 PM

Well put lacrosselover....everyone wants an edge, and when you deny any athlete an edge, it comes out verbally as a whinge. playing offense can be very frustrating when you've got the likes of lacreosselover hanging all over you....a whinge is a way to let off steam. Just listen to any number of elite tennis players....most of them whinge, especially under that pressure. But they never back down.

This gem was sent to me by Killalax in response to the above post:

"If you deny athletes like me an edge against fat ****s like bong smoking Purdy boy then EXCUSSSEEEEEEE MEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
killalax

Don't really need this crap sent to me, killalax....sounds like you have an issue with the above mentioned player. Please address it with him, promptly, or seek professional help.

Peace

Corduroy

12-11-2006, 04:42 AM

WOW...Sounds like there's a little tension in the forum.

Not sure making public a PM Minotaur is really considered 'fair play'. Killalax is probably a stupid young kid trying to get under your skin. He's just probably jacked he didn't make the cut in one of the recent rep teams.

Young Killa - grow up junior! (That's the pot calling the kettle!)

Roy.

BIG GUNS

12-29-2006, 02:43 AM

aussielax

12-30-2006, 12:10 AM

How can you even consider Jules Stow as a even half decent Face-Off? He wasnt even the best face off in u17s the year he played, the only reason he made the vic side that year is because Pobega didnt try out, and the last time they played eachother he lost every single faceoff against Pobega. Even I can beat Stow and i dont even take face off...

Are you taking the piss?

Now this is coming from my obviously bias standpoint being from the same club Jules is.

So he only made the vic team because Pobega didn't try out? then how do you explain how he made the All-Australian team that same year? Now my memory of that tourney may not be all that good but from the games i saw him play/played against him he won most of his face off's.

absent lax

01-16-2007, 04:29 AM

Lets face it we were all shocked when jules stow made the all star team, there was a guy from SA who far outclassed him that year, can't remember his name he wore a a plain white cpx.
the main shock of that under 17 year was james robertsons exclusion from the all star team in goals. sif rhett johnson

absent lax

01-16-2007, 04:34 AM

one massively overlooked player in all these discussions in one robert LeGuen, think about it. the guys been in america pumping iron for like 2 years now.
one of the best on the run shooters i've seen. i think he just turned 20 tho. so doesn't quite fit the under 20 catergory.

absent lax

01-16-2007, 04:45 AM

aussielax

01-16-2007, 06:15 AM

just reading through all your previous comments got me thinking. everyone has over looked michael todor.
anyone who scores the most goals in the league for under 17s can't be that bad. in his 2nd year of east side he did equal points for the tournament with adam sear. in a team that did finish 5th.
think about it.

5th jeeze did we do that well in 03?

And i think Michael has soooooooo much talent and natural ability he just needs to get his head in the game, That season he scored 100 goals in 17's i played against him in goals and he shot maybe 4 or 5 goals from 20+ odd shots. If he used some brains he could be a fantastic player.

BIG GUNS

01-16-2007, 11:32 PM

PobegaFLC

01-17-2007, 12:02 AM

Todor has good stick work but doesnt seem to use it in a game, all he does is take outside shots...that works in juniors because 90% of the goalies are bunnies. I recall wen we played surrey park in d1 this year he took about 15 outside shots for nothin.
if he actully went in hard, was prepared to take a hit and didnt try to be so fancy like a few of the surrey park juniors he would be a decent player! look at geno he has awsome stick work and he goes in hard, nothin fancy...Awsome player!

laxpigmi2005

01-17-2007, 12:03 AM

absent lax

01-17-2007, 04:46 AM

everyone loves geno, should be a new tv show.
he is a great guy.

laxdude136

01-17-2007, 05:18 AM

james robertson is a bunny of a goalie

PobegaFLC

01-17-2007, 05:25 AM

haha, well its not a Tv show, but iv got a few Videos on my phone of a few people running a muck in Glenelg(i.e Gene Kehoe), after a big night on the booz at the nationals in adelaide. including him pouring milk on Heath ' Beefer' Thanas...

swankylaxer

01-17-2007, 06:10 AM

i think use all need to have a good look in the mirror at urselves. i mean todor has been playin for a long time. but still isnt all "that" which people are talkin bout. sum1 told me he didnt even make the U19 state team, and 2 bunnies did. now explain that!!!
but yeah if i had to choose any1 from surrey park, it would b gene kheo by far. todor thinks hes all that but isnt.

I think your being a bit harsh on Mike. He has only been playing for 5 years, he started in U15's so really not that long. For 2 of the 3 years in U17's( he only played one year of 15's) he has been fighting stress fractures and wearing a back brace, this has limited his ability to perform some tasks and has forced him to change his shooting style. The second year of 17's he only played 6 games due to his back.

As for missing the u19's and "2 bunnies" as you said making the team you would need to ask Rick B his reasons for not picking Mike. Sometimes people are left out because they simply don't fit the team not due to there ability.

Mike has very good stick skill and just needs to develope and learn more of how the Senior game works.

And yes I love Gene too.

whistleblower

01-17-2007, 06:22 AM

[QUOTE=swankylaxer]you would need to ask Rick B his reasons for not picking Mike. Sometimes people are left out because they simply don't fit the team not due to there ability.]

Good point - Sometimes it can be Coach ability from what I've heard!

absent lax

01-17-2007, 06:25 AM

pobega, do you have the video of matt filiponi stacking the naked handstand?

yeah i agree with laxdude136 james robertson is a bit of a bunny, but he loves the game. and isn't a **** bloke like half the other lacrosse playing knuckleheads out there.

PobegaFLC

01-18-2007, 07:23 PM

Haha nah i wish i had the naked handstand!! that was a classic, who is this...clearly some1 that was on that trip!

wolves_lax 11

01-29-2007, 01:00 AM

has anyone on the forums heard about a list of the best 20 players under 20 australia wide that was put together for 2006 buy an american coach ??

i was at the cricket on sunday (AUS vs NZ) and my mate told me about a list of 20 guys that was put together last year which was supposedly the best going around under 20 in the country.

so has anyone heard of this list or perhaps maybe even have that list ???

i know of a few of the guys that supposedly were named but they are only the guys from my club in West Aus.

wolves_lax 11

absent lax

01-29-2007, 02:06 AM

i reckon rumours of such a list are false. to compile a list like that would take a lot of time.
so even if they did put a list together it'd probably just be taking the names of the people with the biggest reps and putting it to paper. i really would've liked to see all people who are in the age group try out for the 21s.
speculation over who is the best at this age is just massaging peoples egos, and what more does a person who is under 20 need than a massive ego?
no one is above lacrosse.

12345

01-29-2007, 02:37 AM

i reckon rumours of such a list are false. to compile a list like that would take a lot of time.

Not true. Sam Williams was telling me at the weekend that John Denic had told Alex Brown about the list, which was compiled by Aussie coaches including JD, not a USA one. Sam, Alex and one Ian Berry :guns: are reportedly on it.

wolves_lax 11

01-29-2007, 06:26 AM

i really would've liked to see all people who are in the age group try out for the 21s.
speculation over who is the best at this age is just massaging peoples egos, and what more does a person who is under 20 need than a massive ego?
no one is above lacrosse.

firstly i agree with that first point intirely (sp). if everybody that was eligible tried out for an aussie team like the 21's that you mentioned this would truly be the only real indication of who really is the top of the top in the country.

on the second thought you raise i agree and disagree. it does have the potential to inflate ego's of those who are there to think that rep is everything. i also think it makes some strive more to maintain or back up what is said.

Not true. Sam Williams was telling me at the weekend that John Denic had told Alex Brown about the list, which was compiled by Aussie coaches including JD, not a USA one. Sam, Alex and one Ian Berry are reportedly on it.

i did hear that it was chosen by an aussie selection panel but also an american coach had a finger in it so to speak.

as i said before i guess it is all speculation until proven otherwise by someone definately in the know not just from second hand word.

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swankylaxer

01-29-2007, 03:54 PM

Lets not forget that if such a list has been compiled that these people will only have seen the guys that play in the state teams or representative teams. So if some one had a bad tournament they will not have been noticed anyway.

Also this is the opinion of a couple of people and what one person sees in a player may not be the same as another person. I know I have left kids out of Rep teams because they are to hard to coach or they wont get along with the other players. This doesn't mean that those players don't have talent.

So don't read to much into any list that may appear.

PobegaFLC

04-12-2007, 12:22 AM

Starting Line up:

A: James Lawerson (VIC)
Marty Hyde (VIC)
Paul Marshall (SA)

M: Adam Sear (WA)
Ben Newman (VIC)
Pete Witcomb(SA) (DefMid) for Robbie Chaimberlain (VIC)
D: Andrew Ham (VIC)
Josh Robinson (VIC)
Chris Williams (VIC)
G: Ryan Sparks (WA)

Minotaur

04-13-2007, 04:25 AM

Great roster choice PobegaFLC, but IMO I would go with Chris Tillotson over Ryan Sparks. Call it experience and stopping ability. Both good goalies though.....

cannon

04-13-2007, 05:29 AM

Mino tillo is 22 or 23 now mate.

Minotaur

04-13-2007, 06:39 AM

What? Tillo 23??? He's not even shaving yet! I saw him and his twelve year old girlfirend hanging at the park just the other day.....I feel so....old. So that means Cannon is also, lord help us....23? I remember when Tillo was just knee high! Time is a cruel dictator!

NJR11

04-13-2007, 09:44 PM

It great to scroll through the banter generated by the topics on this forum.....Rumours and innuendo can produce a fair bit of trouble....There is no such list of the best U/20 players in Australia, compiled by either US coaches or Aust coaches!!!! There is no harm in all you guys making your own teams up but careful about the "he said, she said" crap.

The real WLC11