Who is Going To Win 07

[morelax]

2007 Grand Final??

[cannon]

Melbourne Uni probably ;)

[Doski]

say what? a team of unknowns from low divisions coming out of nowhere. We're not the mighty ducks.

[old'D'man]

i thought the talk was MCC, new coach so better team-umpire relationship. already have the players and with the NEW recruits from last year, a state league season behind them, how could they possibly not go in fav's

[RoyBoy]

Old' man,

Get off the bad stuff. MCC will be lucky to make the 4. If they are, it will only be for a year. They will lose Cam Shep, Robbie, JT and Arnell who will either return home, retire or prostitute themselves further.

Old d Man - You're not Cam Shep by chance are you?? Why did you ever leave Surrey? Surely not for a flag with Malvern?

Roy Boy (aka Corduroy).

[aussielax]

Roy Boy (aka Corduroy).

You do know it's against the rules of TLF to have more than one username? So you might not want to openley admit that.

And i don't think that is Cam i thought his username was lacrosselover or something like that.

And Camberwell will win an SL premiership before MCC do(If either of us win one at all).

[cannon]

If all this banter of Eltham getting a host of players back next year and with their current good form I'd have to say Eltham would be the bookies favourites.

Willy no doubt will be second fav's but a few key players missing will make it a tough season.

Surrey and the C'well and MCC should be all very close with Willy and themselves.

Malvern and Caulfield making up the numbers again unless the the Gaits and Powell brothers decide they want a year in the wilderness.

[Hally]

mcc have nothin they are way to cocky but if they do they will have to buy half of elthams or willys sl teams. my money is on eltham

[Corduroy]

I know the rules Aussie - this is an impersonator obviously trying to get me canned. Probably didn't like my comments on MCC or something. I'm glad the Moderator slapped a ban on him.

I'm not real bright - but I aint a complete moron!

Peace out


CORDUROY.

[laxmcc]

why would mcc want to get you sacked off a forum??

[Minotaur]

Because the Cord-man has provocative views, and happens to have hit the G-spot with his MCC diatribe. Keep up the good work Cord! The comedy practically writes itself on this forum......

[Corduroy]

Yeah thank E-Train. I'm happy to share my provocative views and not just rip on MCC. Although the way they were crapping on 12 months ago, who wouldn't.

Re: Previous refernce to Cam Sheppard. Lacrosselover was actually Eugene D. I'm not sure Shep is on TLF. Anyway has my Mighty Murray Keane prediction firmed up yet?

Cord!

[laxorgy]

my money is an MCC - Willy GF, eltham are old, they just about done as a team.

[snake]

No team will get within 5 goals of Eltham in 07. MCC will not get within 10.

[cannon]

orgy as much as i'd like to believe you. i can't.

Willy lose some key players and due to the concrete nature of the team of recent years alot of the talent undernath has dissapeared.

MCC will likely not have Desmond and will take time to gel with the new coach. Ty Dee coming back from a serious knee injury does not help.

Eltham are the strongest team on paper for 07. And that is all this thread is about really. Paperless paper speculation.

[igloo dweller]

my money is an MCC - Willy GF, eltham are old, they just about done as a team.

hogwash orgy...age is only a factor if you're an average player. but the older guys at eltham, even now, are as good lax players as you're ever going to see in this country. apart from terry, they could all play for VIC again this time next year.

eltham have the most depth going around by twice and will win it. at least a 1/4 of willy's team wont be there next year.

[shortfuse]

The proof will be in the pudding... Eltham for 07 *******!

[diggity]

orgy as much as i'd like to believe you. i can't.

Willy lose some key players and due to the concrete nature of the team of recent years alot of the talent undernath has dissapeared.

MCC will likely not have Desmond and will take time to gel with the new coach. Ty Dee coming back from a serious knee injury does not help.

Eltham are the strongest team on paper for 07. And that is all this thread is about really. Paperless paper speculation.
who will be missing from willy?

[cannon]

Newman, R Garnsworthy, M Sevoir, R Thompson, C Welsh

and perhaps

K Morlang, C Flaherty, A Onofretchook

BUT Willi does get Ardossi back and should have Price for a full season.

[diggity]

Newman, R Garnsworthy, M Sevoir, R Thompson, C Welsh

and perhaps

K Morlang, C Flaherty, A Onofretchook

BUT Willi does get Ardossi back and should have Price for a full season.
whats everyone doin?

[whistleblower]

Thats a fair loss of talent.....but opens the door for others to have a crack!

[Warriors26]

Newman, R Garnsworthy, M Sevoir, R Thompson, C Welsh

and perhaps

K Morlang, C Flaherty, A Onofretchook

BUT Willi does get Ardossi back and should have Price for a full season.
Any Reasons for those losses cannon???

[cannon]

Newman-Footy
Garnsworthy and Sevoir- England
Thompson-Study Tour
Welsh-Injury

the others im not sure about

[Warriors26]

Benny succumb to the arch enemy someone else did that there lax has never been the same, Brendan Godden

[Doski]

Benny succumb to the arch enemy someone else did that there lax has never been the same, Brendan Godden

Arch enemy = footy?

[cannon]

yep doski.

here's me hoping that it is short term. godden is a good player. shame to lose him

[shooter]

Arch enemy = footy?

Of course.

What else would it be?

[cannon]

shooter - alcohol

[BIG GUNS]

Hey fella's dont write off the FLC this year haha!

[Corduroy]

Are they going to get promoted to S/L Big Guns.

[PobegaFLC]

FLC SL Premiers 07, you know it Newman Benny!

[Corduroy]

They still passing the crack pipe around down there in Footescray mate..?? Newman Benny?? What the?

[PobegaFLC]

Haha, nah it wasnt newman that wrote that, he left his signed on at my place so i wrote it ( pobega ) haha nah no more crack pipe...exept for on a saturday night haha, nah most them blokes dont play anymore

[whistleblower]

Whos coaching FLC next year??

[morelax]

Whos coaching FLC next year??


LIKE THAT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE

[PobegaFLC]

We had a bloke coming over from the US to captain coach us, apparently a d1 Coll player, then duncan mcKenzie fkn stole him n took him to melb uni to play some Quality d2, so we have no idea whos coaching us now, who is who on here who do yas play for

[whistleblower]

Thats a pissa....Did Duncan finish up because FLC won or was he leaving at the end of 2007 no matter what?

[cannon]

i think he was leaving no matter what whistle.

[PobegaFLC]

He was contracted until the end of next season, but everybody voted him out, well organised coach, but not many people liked him at FLC i dont think ...a commitee desision, a few players disliked him aswell...

[fairy]

a talented coach would have to think long and hard before coaching at flc-very divided club-pity for the younger skilled players.

[PobegaFLC]

**** off mate we have possibly the best group of juniors going round, when was the last time an FLC side didnt make the top 4 in the u17s or u15s, give it a couple of years mate, majorty of our senior line up is 18 years old...our lacrosse has improved out of sight in the seniors..

[fairy]

read again PobegaFLC
I believe the 'younger skilled players' were acknowledged- agreed
would be great for the new wave of seniors to continue to develop- flc had made great strides in their juniour program over many years, but to be a respected club on and off the field is anutha issue.

[PobegaFLC]

Yeah, well us young blokes now are working on the 'on-field' side of things, iv only been at the club 3 years so i have no idea what you mean by 'not respected off the field' i know FLC has a bad name, whats the actual reason for that?

[aussielax]

Yeah, well us young blokes now are working on the 'on-field' side of things, iv only been at the club 3 years so i have no idea what you mean by 'not respected off the field' i know FLC has a bad name, whats the actual reason for that?

Dude everybody in Victorian lax knows the most recent incident that has caused Footscray to have a poor reputation.

[Minotaur]

**** off mate we have possibly the best group of juniors going round, when was the last time an FLC side didnt make the top 4 in the u17s or u15s, give it a couple of years mate, majorty of our senior line up is 18 years old...our lacrosse has improved out of sight in the seniors..


Strong juniors, yes. The best going round....debatable. FLC has made some great strides in recent years. Coaching is one improvement. Recruiting is another, which takes the most energy and man/womanpower. Competing with Willi around the corner for kids is a big ask, and FLC has done a solid job. I am interested to know how FLC juniors will go with the change in age groupings, as your under 13's and 15's barely had enough kids to fill those teams. Now that Under 14's will be playing 10 on the field, and the under 13 point rule(two under 12 teams mandated) will be applied to under 12's, will FLC struggle with numbers. Also, I noticed a great many girls making up the numbers in under 11's. Just a discussion point.....Good luck in the upcoming season FLC.

[fairy]

flc have a long history of not dealing with discipline issues- stretches back probably15-20 years. to some extent these were addressed for a few years, but recent times have seen the club admin. allow this to revert to the previous low.(not in women's section)
not good modelling for the quality junior members they have encouraged.

other clubs view this as weak- widely held opinions of the club are poor.
strong open management could address this issue.

[aussielax]

fairy your from Altona aren't you?

[fairy]

fairy your from Altona aren't you?
wrong!.......

[aussielax]

wrong!.......

Oh, dw about it then.

[cannon]

FLC have always had strong juniors for as long as i can remember. But they have always struggled to convert that into senior strength. Kind of like Camberwell, who have had strong junior teams for as long as i can remember but havent moved in State League. I mean when i was in under 13's to play against Footscray Wembley was scary as hell. And from those teams only a few remain. It's the struggle all clubs have in converting juniors to seniors.

As for Duncan, well he did help win them a Premiership didnt he?

[fairy]

FLC have always had strong juniors for as long as i can remember. But they have always struggled to convert that into senior strength. Kind of like Camberwell, who have had strong junior teams for as long as i can remember but havent moved in State League. I mean when i was in under 13's to play against Footscray Wembley was scary as hell. And from those teams only a few remain. It's the struggle all clubs have in converting juniors to seniors.

As for Duncan, well he did help win them a Premiership didnt he?

true- he must have been 1 factor , of course.

it's the perennial puzzle- why do players leave in that transisition time? in flc case,some may move on for personal development reasons- maybe they believe that better opportunity exists elsewhere,
or they drop out of the game altogether
or go to clubs which demonstrate different values.

[fairy]

Dude everybody in Victorian lax knows the most recent incident that has caused Footscray to have a poor reputation.

case inpoint( as I did previously) of that club being in urgent need of a strong leadership group who are willing to get tough on discipline issues and protect the reputation of its members and their history.

[Corduroy]

History? Reputation? Discipline? Leadership? You have got to be kidding me. This is a club that indirectly has condoned a meat-head within their clubn burning the Australian Playing Top of the only decent kid to come out of that club. They need more than leadership, they need a makoever. I remember back in 1991 at the Elthan Grounds in Greensborough, after a Grand Final, one of the clubs figure heads walked up to a Melborne Uni guy and smacked him in the mouth. If that wasn't abd enough a bunch of yound kids, who curfrently play seniors today mobbed him like he was some kind of hero. Completely typical of the club that encourages (and rewards) violence, illegal activity and general anarchy. Furthermore, they have people at the pivotal end of the club who are hardly role models.

Have a looked at the % of players suspended over the past 10 years. 80% from FLC. That's a fact!

Could you believe this kid asked such a stupid question.

Peace and HNY 2007.
Roy

[fairy]

history goes back further than the current senior team, roy.

but major makeover needed. I would say they DIRECTLY condoned that disgraceful, cowardly action-
but then again, they have gone ahead- unregulated by the State and National bodies who were unwilling to intervene.

there is a core of current members who are desperate for change, but lack numbers to oust the admin.
others have voted with their feet and distanced themselves-refusing to be part of the existing attitude- unfortunately robbing the club of valuable role models.
peace 2 u 2 man

[PobegaFLC]

For starters, the club does not at all condone the actions of the player that burnt the top and he was suspended for a lengthy period of time. Secondly, what you mentioned happened in 1991, its now 2007, Majority of our senior team is between the age of 17 and 22, How can you say that us blokes are anything like the old Footscray lacrosse boys, when 75% of the blokes at the club weren’t even around when that happened. Also to say Belfour is the only decent kid to come out of the club is a massive call, if you look at the clubs current players there is about 8-10 u17s that are all representing the State or Country, and 3-4 senior players that also represent the State and Country. Stop canning the club because of things that happen well over a decade ago.

[shortfuse]

...Also to say Belfour is the only decent kid to come out of the club is a massive call, if you look at the clubs current players there is about 8-10 u17s that are all representing the State or Country, and 3-4 senior players that also represent the State and Country...

I don't think he meant decent player, I think he meant decent bloke. But I agree with you, what about Lumpy? That bloke is a champion. And besides, how boring would it be if every team you played consisted of a bunch of pansies. I enjoy playing against Footsgray, they play hard and respect people who play hard against them. They may have the occasional punch up but who doesn't enjoy one of those?

[fairy]

hopefully the 17-22 year olds will re write the script at Footscray and realize that they are in a powerful position to keep developing into a competitive SL team.
lot will depend on the strength and skill of the new coach(whoever). if he can work to improve discipline so the punchups are only occasional and the younger players play hard and support each other off the field -great!
any clue on expressions of interest for coach??

[Devils-Advocate]

anyone care to predict the final standings in state league for 2007?
I go with
eltham
willi
camberwell
surrey
mcc
caulfield
malvern

although i wouldnt be suprised if camberwell beat willi

[snake]

I would agree with those final standings but I think the Surry will also beat Willi in one of the home and away games.

[swankylaxer]

yeh I'll have
Eltham
Surrey
Will
Camb
MCC
Cauf
Malv

[aussielax]

yeh I'll have
Eltham
Surrey
Will
Camb
MCC
Cauf
Malv

haha no surrey bias there?

And from what I've heard Camberwell's SL team will be stronger this season that it was last season.

[laxpigmi2005]

no camberwell bias there? ... haha just kidding

[cannon]

I see three groupings with Eltham out front, Willy to MCC all very close and the last three bumping around and causing occasional trouble.

Eltham

Willy
Camberwell
Surrey
MCC

Mlvern
Footscray
Caulfield

[swankylaxer]

There will be a few changes at Surrey this year so don't be suprised if they do realy well. Look for a rejuvinated Nick Leguen to make a return and some young players from last years 17's to step up.

And yes I am bias.....

Go Surrey

[aussielax]

no camberwell bias there? ... haha just kidding

I'm just going on what I've heard from the coaches and what I've heard about players coming back and other players trying to push their way into state league.

There will be a few changes at Surrey this year so don't be suprised if they do realy well. Look for a rejuvinated Nick Leguen to make a return and some young players from last years 17's to step up.

And yes I am bias.....

Go Surrey

Well it'll be good to see Nick Leguen back were he belongs in SL, Not making D1 and D2 D-lines look stupid.

And it'll also be good to see how those Surrey juniors perform in seniors especially at SL level.

Should make for some good lacrosse, And a more competitive season.

[cannon]

actually im going to put footscray up with the middle bracket of teams. big call, but i'll make it early

[swankylaxer]

Yeh I recon if footscray do go up to S/L they will do alright, lots of talent there, they just need to be shown they right path.

Aussielax I was talking to Nick and Rob today and Nick seems really positive and back on track with some ambition again. Rob said he will be back in June or July to renew his Visa and might make a camio.

[Devils-Advocate]

when does it become official about footscray being in SL or not? any chance moreland?
whats the feeling at footscray about going into SL, do u boys want to? and u think you will be competitive?

[cannon]

what argument is there for moreland getting in? they've not even made the GF in d1 have they?

[swankylaxer]

what argument is there for moreland getting in? they've not even made the GF in d1 have they?

I wouldn't think Morland would be ready for the jump to S/L yet. They have made alot of improvement in the last couple of years but I think they will need a few more years in D1 yet.

I would like to see footscray go up this year I think it could only help to improve the group that they have.

[Devils-Advocate]

wasnt pushing for moreland to be in SL, just wondering how far off they are? they have been in D1 now for a few years.

[Corduroy]

As much as I hate to admit it I think MCC will actually perform this year. The team will likely be a replication of the Caulfield side 3 years ago, plus some good additional homegrown young talent. Prediction! They will take either C'well or Surrey's spot at 4th.

Let's hope they live up to what's on paper.

[whistleblower]

Although Moreland could go to S/L it seems that they are playing most games with 13 players or less each week. Another year of Div 1 will give them another year to bring some jrn's through.

As for MCC they could well go to 4th this year, but no depth means you need no injuries.

[PobegaFLC]

Moreland will get thrashed in SL. They might b good in a couple of years with the amount of juniors in their senior team. But no hope of being half competitive in 2007.
Footscray will be alot more competitive than alot of people are predicting, possibly our strongest team we have had in a very very long time, also a few new players at the club for '07' aswell... I recon we COULD be competitive with the sides that wer put in the middle bracket like, Camberwell, Surrey, MCC and Williamstown....

1. Eltham
2. Surrey
3. Camberwell
4. Footscray
5. Williamstown
6. Malvern
7. Caufield

Thats my guess...williamstown being so low because of the amount of players they lost...If they all play id have them #1 or #2

[cannon]

Pobega is right. Willy losing the likes of

Ryan G
Ben N
Joel W
Mike Sevoir
Rhys Thompson
A Onofretchook
and potentially
Blake Taylor
Kyle Morlang
C Welsh
---
i beleive the correct phrase is up $hit creek without a paddle
--
on the flipside Willy get Ardossi and Price back from the states and potentially Shea menzies back from the abyss.

[whistleblower]

I like how Pobega predicts MCC not to even finish the season!

[Devils-Advocate]

pobegaflc, what newcomers do you expect at flc this year? Also you left mcc out of your predictions for end of year standings.

[Devils-Advocate]

[QUOTE]Willy losing the likes of

Ryan G
Ben N
Joel W
Mike Sevoir
Rhys Thompson
A Onofretchook
and potentially
Blake Taylor
Kyle Morlang
C Welsh[QUOTE]

if this is all true, we could see willi finish as low as 6th or 7th out of 8 teams?!

[fairy]

thing about willi players is they seem to lose em, but end up getting them back or replaced (do they still have the depth tho?)

1.eltham
2.willi/surrey
3.surrey/willi
4.mcc
5.camberwell
6.malvern-could be the dark horse if they get their coaching panel right
7.footscray- depending on the calibre and strength of coaching staff
8. caulfield

[PobegaFLC]

i dont see MCC being as strong as every1 is talking them up to be....their strength is their Defence by a mile...from wat i have heard going around...JT is coming half way thru the season, wiggles aint playing, Eugene isnt playing? hows that going to go against a half decent attack?

By the way we beat malvern 2 years ago when we had a poo team..
ben newman, michael mcinerny, james lawerson, luke moore...we dont have a bad base for a man-up haha...

[cannon]

plus a couple of yanks right?

newman miles and plumb..all original willy boys!

[morelax]

i dont see MCC being as strong as every1 is talking them up to be....their strength is their Defence by a mile...from wat i have heard going around...JT is coming half way thru the season, wiggles aint playing, Eugene isnt playing? hows that going to go against a half decent attack?

By the way we beat malvern 2 years ago when we had a poo team..
ben newman, michael mcinerny, james lawerson, luke moore...we dont have a bad base for a man-up haha...


AGREED MCC SUCK

[lacrosselover]

Good input morelax

[morelax]

Good input morelax

cheers ................
cheers

[aussielax]

AGREED MCC SUCK

Stop being such a tool, If you want to be critical that's fine just get some arguments to back yourself up so your actually offering something to the conversation not just being an annoying sh!t who says "AGREED MCC SUCK" with nothing to back himself up, honestly what are you 12 years old?

[aussielax]

Aussielax I was talking to Nick and Rob today and Nick seems really positive and back on track with some ambition again. Rob said he will be back in June or July to renew his Visa and might make a camio.

Can you confirm any rumors that Rob is transferring from Towson to NYIT to get more time on the field or were those just rumors?

[morelax]

Stop being such a tool, If you want to be critical that's fine just get some arguments to back yourself up so your actually offering something to the conversation not just being an annoying sh!t who says "AGREED MCC SUCK" with nothing to back himself up, honestly what are you 12 years old?

mate dont need anything to back myself.

Truth hurts hey buddy!!!

[cannon]

Can you confirm any rumors that Rob is transferring from Towson to NYIT to get more time on the field or were those just rumors?


yeah he is aussie, good move in my eyes, he'll see the field this year and the next two..and tech are pretty handy!

morelax, aussie is a camberwell boy, not mcc.

anyway, play nice fella's save the cheap stuff for when the ref's arent looking :imparied:

[swankylaxer]

Yeah as Cannon has said he is going to NYIT as sson as he goes back onn the 22nd of jan. Great move and to one of the best Div 2 programes.

He has to come back around june or july to renew his visa so he will prob have a run in our S/L for a week or 2. Will be good to see how much he has improved.

[whistleblower]

Cannon what are your chances of playing S/L this year.....surely your time has come?

I'm sure majority will agree after watching the DVD of 2006 G/F!

[cannon]

whistleblower i'd love to know the answer to that.

guess i'll have a better gague on that when pre-season rolls around

[whistleblower]

What you guys aren't doing pre season yet???


Skills and ability aside - overall I could not see the benefit of playing scoot over you in a year when it may be hard to finish 1st or 2nd.

[cannon]

you guys haven't started yet either though.

im doing my own stuff but traditionally we do preseason at the start of feb.

[whistleblower]

Just taking the pi$$

We will start something off in the next few weeks before Feb, alot of the boys coming back are begging to get some fitness under the belt.

[igloo dweller]

Cannon what are your chances of playing S/L this year.....surely your time has come?

I'm sure majority will agree after watching the DVD of 2006 G/F!

scoota remember was saving at close to 70% at the WORLD GAMES...dont think that scoot having a poor game in the GF was a sign of his skills waning. he could hardly walk in the week before the final with his back.

i agree the cannon should be spending more time in SL this year - but not because scoota is past it.

[igloo dweller]

players to watch this year...
look for young ham to start to push mat taylor as the best small defender in SL. robbie chamberlain will make some good players look very ordinary. he will carry his team's O this year. marty hyde's star will continue to rise, even more so if his shot becomes more consistent. chris plumb is a very good player, and may exploit some lack of respect from some SL players, gene kehoe needs to back himself more, but will be a good player.


FINAL STANDINGS

1) eltham - undefeated - which is very damn hard to do
2) surrey - a keen goon is a goon thats hard to stop
3) camberwell - because of willy's demise, not camberwell's improvement.
4) willy - i hope. traditionally lots of depth, but lots of gaps to fill.
5) footscray - solid base, potentially with newman icing
6) MCC - will miss uge more than he misses them. D worries me.
7) malvern - robbie chamberlain can only do so much
8) caulfield - will be better if they can sort out the weeds that choke their club

happy new years folks.

[swankylaxer]

Good call on all of those young players Igloo D. I recon you will see alot out of Gene this year he seems to have develpoed with the U19's training they have been doing. Plumb is a champion in the making and I think the other three have already proved that they are outstanding talents that can only get better with age.

[whistleblower]

scoota remember was saving at close to 70% at the WORLD GAMES...dont think that scoot having a poor game in the GF was a sign of his skills waning. he could hardly walk in the week before the final with his back.

i agree the cannon should be spending more time in SL this year - but not because scoota is past it.

Ok but look at the 2005 G/F it's quite the same story.....Go back to 2000 G/F we shot 3 goals from 33 shots in the first half.....and to his credit Scoot was the difference.

[snake]

players to watch this year...
look for young ham to start to push mat taylor as the best small defender in SL. robbie chamberlain will make some good players look very ordinary. he will carry his team's O this year. marty hyde's star will continue to rise, even more so if his shot becomes more consistent. chris plumb is a very good player, and may exploit some lack of respect from some SL players, gene kehoe needs to back himself more, but will be a good player.


FINAL STANDINGS

1) eltham - undefeated - which is very damn hard to do
2) surrey - a keen goon is a goon thats hard to stop
3) camberwell - because of willy's demise, not camberwell's improvement.
4) willy - i hope. traditionally lots of depth, but lots of gaps to fill.
5) footscray - solid base, potentially with newman icing
6) MCC - will miss uge more than he misses them. D worries me.
7) malvern - robbie chamberlain can only do so much
8) caulfield - will be better if they can sort out the weeds that choke their club

happy new years folks.


Newman...Footscray????? Have I missed something? Tell all!

[igloo dweller]

ben newman, michael mcinerny, james lawerson, luke moore...we dont have a bad base for a man-up haha...

newy has said as much to me as well...

[laxpigmi2005]

Is Benny playing footy or lax for Footscray?

[PobegaFLC]

His playin for us, but if willi wont clear him his not gunna play at all so then he will play footy...he didnt enjoy playing lax at willi and wants to come play with a few of his good mates at our club...which is fair enuff, theirs no point playing sport if you arnt enjoying it.

[swankylaxer]

Pobega Who's coaching Footscray this year? Have they chosen anyone yet?

Will be good to see Benny playin no matter where he ends up but a bad time for Willi to lose such a talent.

[cannon]

Will be good to see Benny playin no matter where he ends up but a bad time for Willi to lose such a talent.

indeed, better that talent like that stays in the sport, but a massive loss for the seagulls.

on the upside willy should get the services of Ardossi, Price and Menzies back....now we need Aaron Lawman back from Glenelg.. :banghead:

[shooter]

His playin for us, but if willi wont clear him his not gunna play at all so then he will play footy...he didnt enjoy playing lax at willi and wants to come play with a few of his good mates at our club...which is fair enuff, theirs no point playing sport if you arnt enjoying it.

That would be a pretty dirty thing to do since as we released twisties to them.
Have they said they won't clear him?
Doesn't seem like something they would do.

[cannon]

i doubt they would too shooter, they let miles, plumb and a few others over the years.

[PobegaFLC]

Still no idea whos coaching us! We need some1 from another club thats knows wat their doing. I recon willi will release him aswell, he has a fair enuff reason

[fairy]

Still no idea whos coaching us! We need some1 from another club thats knows wat their doing. I recon willi will release him aswell, he has a fair enuff reason


so,Ppb, does that mean you think there is no one at the club who does know what they are doing, or what?

[absent lax]

i reckon most clubs could do with a shake up, it seems to me like they state picking state league teams by name alone and not performance after a coach has been around for a while.
its the same in most sports tho. some players will play in the top team till their legs drop off when there are younger players who should be getting time to improve.
what are the main attributes that make a winning team anyway?

[PobegaFLC]

It doesnt mean that i think nobody knows wat there doing, i think it would be better for the team if some1 from somewere else coached us, bring different things to the side so we arnt doing the same thing over n over...

[fairy]

right......I know now what you mean.
so has there been any interest in the position, do you know?

[PobegaFLC]

nah i have absolutly no idea!

[whistleblower]

Tell you what......I would nearly consider having a crack at it playing / coach (FLC).....if my travel time wasn't 50 minutes.

[Corduroy]

Why don't you ask Glen " The Skull" Mollison. Sure he'd bring plenty to the team.

[fairy]

Why don't you ask Glen " The Skull" Mollison. Sure he'd bring plenty to the team.

plenty of what,roy??

[Corduroy]

Whatever they need..!!

[lacrosselover]

Willy wouldn't clear benny, he is one of the best talents to come around for years. Especially not too FLC.

[swankylaxer]

As I understand the rules re transfer of players. The only reason you can stop a player from transfering is if he owes the club money. Otherwise they have no choice but to sign the transfer form. It does have a section where the club can disagree with the transfer and write a reason for that, which the VLA will take into consideration but I don't know how much weight that carries.

And from what people have written on here if he doesn't get the transfer he will leave the game and I don't see the VLA allowing that to happen.

[whistleblower]

I pretty sure in the past the VLA would find in favour of the original club when in a transfer dispute, especially if they player was under 21 years old.

Simply because the clubs does not gain its possible reward in seniors after having the player althrough jrn's!

[igloo dweller]

the club put time into ben, it got rewards
ben's put time into the club, he got rewards
why should willy care? let him go if he wants.
there aint enough laxers going around for us to squabble over who plays where

[morelax]

Can i just ask WHY? newman would want to leave willy!
i doubt it is cause he is unhappy. he would be able to do whatever he wants at that club being one of the best players there. and why would he pick FLC.and i doubt he dad would want he son playing for FLC??

[PobegaFLC]

Well you can think wat you want or u can take it from 1 of his best mates? or even from him if u like....He is unhappy at willi and didnt get along well with a few blokes their! as for his old man, i spoke to denis about it when i was away with them and he has no problem, completly up to ben he said, he even considered coaching us if we stayed in Division 1, he didnt want to coach againt Willi SL because his played for them his whole life which is fair enough.

[BIG GUNS]

ok, ive considered goin to footscray. from wat ppl have said bout me not being happy at willy is true. so im gunna move clubs coz i dont want to give it up. i mean id rather b happy playin the sport n having fun, instead of not being happy n being n stuff like that.
im even considering going to play at mcc. murry has asked if id like to, so ive got a fairly big decision to make. although im still thinkin bout having a year off to play footy.
half way through last yr i was goin to quit lax and just play footy, but coz id made a commitment at the club i finishd off the season. playing footy in the morning and lax in the arvo.
i think im leaning towards mcc. but theres still a while to go so who knows whats goin to happen. so nothing is certain as of yet

[PobegaFLC]

you aint goin to mcc, if u do i will fight u

[laxmcc]

ok, ive considered goin to footscray. from wat ppl have said bout me not being happy at willy is true. so im gunna move clubs coz i dont want to give it up. i mean id rather b happy playin the sport n having fun, instead of not being happy n being n stuff like that.
im even considering going to play at mcc. murry has asked if id like to, so ive got a fairly big decision to make. although im still thinkin bout having a year off to play footy.
half way through last yr i was goin to quit lax and just play footy, but coz id made a commitment at the club i finishd off the season. playing footy in the morning and lax in the arvo.
i think im leaning towards mcc. but theres still a while to go so who knows whats goin to happen. so nothing is certain as of yet

i reckon mcc is the way to go mate ;)
id shake your hand haha

[fairy]

i reckon mcc is the way to go mate ;)
id shake your hand haha
totally agree- far better prospects and attitudes at mcc

[morelax]

dont go to mcc they are a bunch of tools

[fairy]

dont go to mcc they are a bunch of tools
there ya go again morelax-
can you really try hard and make some valid point pls?- for or against

[snake]

BIG GUNS is not Ben Newman. Here is his post from the "10 SECONDS TO GO SCORES ARE LEVEL????" Thread:
whos newy, and why would u giv it to him?

[shortfuse]

BIG GUNS is not Ben Newman. Here is his post from the "10 SECONDS TO GO SCORES ARE LEVEL????" Thread:

Good work snake, you're on the ball. Keep 'em honest.

[morelax]

there ya go again morelax-
can you really try hard and make some valid point pls?- for or against


nice work snake

whats your problem fairy

[shortfuse]

I'm guessing his problem is you bag MCC every chance you get Morelax!

[morelax]

I'm guessing his problem is you bag MCC every chance you get Morelax!


yeh true maybe i should stop. they kno they are crap by now maybe?

[Corduroy]

Snake - BigGuns might have been throwing in a hand grenade to see what people had to say about him. Happens all the time on this forum. Who's Newy? Nothing like the forum peeing in your pocket.

Re MCC - I would think long and hard about heading there. Yes they have some great young homegrown talent. Yes they have upgraded their coach, but this is a team that will likely look very different in 2 years time. Do you honestly think the likes of Keen, Stark, JT, Sheppard, Arnell and whoever else they've pilphered are going to stick around. This is not a career long change for these guys. Most of them of them are now at their 3rd or 6th club. Have a look at Malvern. These guys (except Stark), played there, got their medallion then left them high and dry when things got tough. Used them up! If someone like Ben was looking for a long term prospect, he'd be far better off heading to a club (like FLC), where at least what you see is what you get, and they're on the upward curve through steady and sustained improvement (not through soft means of stacking their team for a season or 2). Would be a shame to see someone like Ben (particularly given his fathers history and success in the game), end up like just another one of those guys who sells his body to the highest bidder.

Either way, let hope we see him play. FLC would be my preference, cause I can't catch the kid when he's ruuning around for Willy.

Peace.
Roy.

[BIG GUNS]

SNAKE it is me, NEWY= dennis in my books. although hes my dad ive seen a few videos of previous yrs and hes scored goals n set them up when needed. so thats why i askd the ? of whos newy.

[swankylaxer]

I agree with Roy on this one, Ben is a great talent and I would like to see him playing know matter where he ends up. But as Roy said, Ben needs to make a decision based on long term prospects and not what a team looks like for the next 2 years.

Good luck no matter which Club you pick Ben.

[cannon]

Plenty-o-banter. Good to see.

Re MCC:Well really they destroyed Division 1 in 2005 with none of the Stark, Shep, Arnell, Keen, Tokarua ensemble. They are legitimate from the ground up in my opinion and had it not been for the World Cup effect then they would have given SP, C'well a consistent worry. They will also likely have the services of Aaron Onoftretchook from Willy if the scuttlebutt is true. And a guy from Providence College in the US by the name of Ronan Buick who will play either for Eltham or MCC. So if all things fall they will be more than legitimate this year despite losing Eugene 'the big Unit' Desmond off defense. As to where Ben goes, its much of a muchness, probably more to learn from if he's at MCC in the sense of Muz and Elbows etc...but we dont get paid to play this sport so if he wants to play for the fun of it i can understand the move to the Bulldogs.

[shortfuse]

Why don't we start a thread that is devoted entirely to Benny Newman? He could log on every day and tell us what he had for breakfast, lunch and dinner, what his plans are for the weekend and how things are working out with the ladies. We can all stay up to date with Benny's happenings and pucker up and kiss his @ss all day long!

This is no reflection on you Ben, just seems we have gone a little off thread.

Alternatively we could set up a thread dedicated entirely to Morelax and Fairy's exploits and let them make internet love all day long together.

[absent lax]

i think to expend on benny newmans own thread you could almost include a video diary. this way his hands wont get tired from typing.
this goes along with the idea of starting a TV show called everyone-loves gene'o.
trademarked ideas of absent lax, copyright '07.

[cannon]

haha...swish

[lax.com.au]

how much will you sell this trademarked idea to laxscene.com for?

[BIG GUNS]

i dont even know how all this started i think it started with laxpigmi2005
01-17-2007, 03:35 PM
Registered User


Location: Melburn
Join Date: Dec 2005
laxpigmi2005 is offline


Is Benny playing footy or lax for Footscray


and has progressed from that. this thread is supposed to b on whos goin to win 2007 not where im goin or anything like that. so lets get bak on topic n stop goin on bout me. wherever i end up is up to me no1 else has a choice. so ull see at the beginning of the season what team ill b at.

[absent lax]

how much will you sell this trademarked idea to laxscene.com for?

the copyrights are for sale, due to me being a poor uni student who is also trying to buy a car.
so maybe for $5. there would have to be royalties of course. and i would be keen to produce/write the everyone loves gene'o show and its spin off the "michael "over rated" todor trilogy".

any interest can be mail to jesus c/o the pentagon.

[absent lax]

back to the topic as benny said. this year will probably be one of the more competitive years. i am keen to see who makes it into the final 4 of state league.
but i believe the grade to watch will be div 1, although with footscrays likely move to SL taking away a lot of the high class from this grade there will be more competition for the final 4. with most of the other teams being closer in talent with eachother.
altona are getting older in div 1 they will most likely be a good team again in 07 but it cant last for much longer because they haven't produced any decent juniors since mark gregson. D1 the 1 to watch.

[fairy]

Why don't we start a thread that is devoted entirely to Benny Newman? He could log on every day and tell us what he had for breakfast, lunch and dinner, what his plans are for the weekend and how things are working out with the ladies. We can all stay up to date with Benny's happenings and pucker up and kiss his @ss all day long!

This is no reflection on you Ben, just seems we have gone a little off thread.

Alternatively we could set up a thread dedicated entirely to Morelax and Fairy's exploits and let them make internet love all day long together.

lol!- grow up

[shortfuse]

lol!- grow up

You really live up to your member name don't you FAIRY. You can't understand that Morelax talks crap to get a rise out of anyone he can, and you are always the one who bites. Then, you can't even handle a cheeky dig from someone else that was all in a bit of fun. I think you need to grow up ya sook.

[Devils-Advocate]

after all the banter it seems as though eltham will get their 4th premiership in 2007 as they will be the only "competitive" team in S/L not diminish in strenth from last year. Willi will lose players and fade away, while camberwell, surrey and mcc will fight amongst themselves for 3rd and 4th, mabey 2nd 3rd and 4th if willi fall away too much. If footscray go up they will certainly give malvern and caulfield a run for their money.

[hotdogfactory]

I agree with Roy on this one, Ben is a great talent and I would like to see him playing know matter where he ends up. But as Roy said, Ben needs to make a decision based on long term prospects and not what a team looks like for the next 2 years.

Good luck no matter which Club you pick Ben.
swanky lax have u aver met this ben character who i have been hearing about it sounds like you are a very good mate of his have u met him in person

[hotdogfactory]

how much will you sell this trademarked idea to laxscene.com for?

hi im absent lax's manager and we have had a long talk and we have decided that we will go no lower than $200,000
thank you kind regards

[piperlax]

benny, have u been haven a wank to this page?

[absent lax]

watch out for knox and diamond valley in state league this year. im sure they'll turn a few heads.
oh wait those clubs don't exist anymore.
get on willie for SL flag this season. just a stab in the dark but they are a perrenial club in victorian lacrosse and seem to know a lot about playing finals.

[PobegaFLC]

What does every 1 think of camberwell, Any good...havnt seen much of them ..?

[aussielax]

What does every 1 think of camberwell, Any good...havnt seen much of them ..?

haha we leave a decent impression after that summer comp game on the weekend?

[la-X2]

wembley will win hands down :P

[swankylaxer]

There are teams in the summer comp?

[aussielax]

There are teams in the summer comp?


Yeah Caufield (Featuring Gene Kehoe and Matt Tesse), Footscray, Chaddy and Camberwell.

[absent lax]

its a sad day to see gene and matt running around in caulfield gear. good thing its only a mickey mouse comp.

[PobegaFLC]

Hey I played for Caufield aswell with geno and teesy, we had blokes that couldnt even catch and throw....so no wonder camberwell smoked us...camberwell was actually pretty ordinary, but it is only summer comp and they wer taking it pretty seriously for some reason!

[lacrosselover]

If you had your club in the summer comp, why wouldn't you take the chance to play some serious lacrosse?

[cannon]

Willy have, I think, entered a team in the Summa comp.

Should be a riot.

[PobegaFLC]

We knocked off camberwell with 11 players...good start to the SL season for FLC ;) even missing the likes of McInerny, Moore, Jones & Lawerson...and with 2 long poles ...go doggies

[rubber balls]

Are there going to 3 divisions this year?

If Footscray Altona and Moreland go to State Leauge willthere be any teams coming into Div 1?

[fairy]

Are there going to 3 divisions this year?

If Footscray Altona and Moreland go to State Leauge willthere be any teams coming into Div 1?
LV draft lists only Footscray goin to SL this year atm

[aussielax]

Camberwell are coming up to division 1 this season.

[lacrosselover]

Good to see FLC getting better and less dirty over the last few years....

[absent lax]

its sad to see camberwell going to div 1. gives surrey no one to play in div 2 considering surreys div 1 experiment is now over. maybe camberwell will only last 1 season aswell. we'll just have to wait and see.
footscray will do well in state league, they have been pushing juniors for the last few years and have cleaned up their club a lot. its good to see. wonder if this will translate to wins in state league though.

[pumba]

Eltham Div 2 will come back and win a flag this year well overdue

[diggity]

benny, have u been haven a wank to this page?

so where is ben going to end up?

[PobegaFLC]

Eltham - Best by a mile

Willi - Will be stronger than every1 expects

MCC - Could be good, apparently getting wes green to add to the list along with JT, stark, arnell and etc

Surrey - Good side, good juniors coming up.

Footscray - Could be v.good if every1 from last year decides to actually get the **** to training and train....otherwise we'll be average.

Camberwell - Decent team....nothing special tho..

Malvern - Struggling, will be better than caufield though

Caufield - Struggling...dont know much about them but if the summer comp was anything to go by they should be in divi 3

[cannon]

Wes Green is contracted to play NLL in the Jan-May period and MLL in the May-Auguts period. I've heard other big whispers but not Wes.

[cannon]

Glenroy
Monash Uni
Adult Deaf
Essendon
Carlton
Collingwood
St. Kilda
Fitzroy
Coburg
Montmorency
Hobson's Bay
Doncaster
Hawthorn

geez, imagine we had all these clubs still, especially adult deaf

[swankylaxer]

Don't forget Mitcham

Cannon check your PM

[Corduroy]

What have you heard Womby. Elbows making a comeback?

[cannon]

haha, nah nothing that far fetched!

[cannon]

Glenroy
Monash Uni
Adult Deaf (aka Deaf and Dumb)
Essendon
Carlton
Collingwood
St. Kilda
Fitzroy
Coburg
Montmorency
Hobson's Bay
Doncaster
Hawthorn

and

Hawksburn
Mitcham
Kew
Kooyong
Elsternwick
Canterbury
Glen Iris
Middle Park
Maribrynong
South Yarra

anyone else think of defunt clubs that arent on this list?

[swankylaxer]

Yeah I seem to remember seeing kids playing at Springvale at some stage.

[Corduroy]

Was there any resolution with Ben Newman? Cannon is he at FLC or MCC or footy? Did FLC get moved back down a grade to D1? So much pre-season speculation and prediction. Any of it come true??

Roy.

[fairy]

Latrobe Uni had a team back in the 70's also, Cannon

[VicLaxRef]

I remember playing a team called Alphington in juniors many moons ago. I hear they're looking to pickup a gun player by the name of Newman before re-entering the arena!!??!??

[BIG GUNS]

why is it that my name always get brought up??!!!!

[cannon]

Eltham plays host to Williamstown this Saturday afternoon at Doncaster Hockey Centre at 2:30

Should be tough to run this one out on the quick surface given noone has match fitness yet!

other games

MCC vs Caulfield Albert Ground 1 2:30 pm |

I'd expect MCC to romp this one in given that they have all of Caulfield's recent talent plus thier own younger blokes and some transfers from Willy and the USA.

Malvern vs Footscray Malvern Town Hall 2:30 pm |

This should be a good tight match. Young 'Scray vs young Malvern. I think Malvern may just win this being carried by Chamberlain, Naughton and McGrath..and maybe a few returning old heads.

Surrey Park vs Camberwell Mont Albert Reserve 1 2:30 pm |

The eastside grudgematch. I think Surrey wins this in a close one. They have the better keeper and all around balance. But the 'Wells do have Pusca.

luck to all

[aussielax]

Surrey Park vs Camberwell Mont Albert Reserve 1 2:30 pm |

The eastside grudgematch. I think Surrey wins this in a close one. They have the better keeper and all around balance. But the 'Wells do have Pusca.

luck to all

Can't see it happening, Surrey will really struggle out of the f/o without Cam Mac and Camberwell will have a better lineup than last season with the inclusion of a few experienced players returning to SL. I think camberwell will take this match, However it should be a good one and I'm pissed i won't be able to watch it.

[Lax-ette]

Who's returning for Camberwell this year Aussie? Brad Ross back?

[aussielax]

Who's returning for Camberwell this year Aussie? Brad Ross back?

Brad Ross, Travis Gathercole and Russel Fox are all returning.

[laxdude136]

what have they ever done aussie? ahahahah

[Lax-ette]

You'd have to say out of those 3 guys Brad would be the only one who may threaten. Travis and Russ are well past their best.

Good Luck either way. My tip - Surrey by 4.

[swankylaxer]

Good call Lax-ette Surrey won by 4. could have been six but for 2 late fastbreak goals to C'well.

Sorry Aussielax but we didn't struggle in the face off's to much at all.

[fairy]

howd ya go with the long pole Cannon? wot was final score?

[cannon]

fairy, yeah ok mate, more fun hitting people than being hit! i had to leave the game early to attend a wedding, divi one willy which was very much a cobbled together team lost by 8 in the end i heard to moreland. Moreland looked good, they have a nice little cutting game going. But we did have 2 first time players running around and some goalie trying to be a longy ;)

[fairy]

so , ya plan to stay outa the cage coz woz so much fun?

[aussielax]

and some goalie trying to be a longy ;)

Haha, I'll see you in a few weeks then.

[laxhead515]

USA is goning to win it all this year. I know that Canada beat USA last year, but they are going to come out strong with some new talent

[shooter]

USA is goning to win it all this year. I know that Canada beat USA last year, but they are going to come out strong with some new talent

okay. Umm thats random.

So by "win it all" do you mean the Victorian State League? because i may be mistaken, but i have a sneaking suspicion that the United States of America does not have a team in the competition.

[rh45]

eltham will beat willy in the grand final this year. mcc will beat either surry, camberwell or caulfield ( if they have some luck ) malvern and footscray will hold up the ladder but it is a game i would love to watch.

its great that footscray are back in S/L they need to be playing at the top level again and i think they might get an ubset or to if they can get there best team on the park each week