Snowboard Bindings, Help!

[Jod91493]

alright so im new to snowboarding and im just wondering will any set of bindings will fit with anyboard??? I have a specific board and specific bindings picked out and im wondering if they will fit with each other. Ill post pics of them if needed

Thanks

[faceofflax15]

Yes, Unless one is step in's...

[raykessler]

Yes, Unless one is step in's...


no different boards are built with different arrangements of screws holes to fit different arrangements of screws

but pretty much yes all bindings can fit all boards, really the only exception to that is burton, they have their own pattern, you have to get special inserts for burton boards/ bindings to fit other boards/ bindings.

[Warrior]

Yes, Unless one is step in's...

To elaborate. Basically all bindings will fit on any board, but some boots do not fit in certain kinds of bindings. There are step in, and strap in bindings.

Step-ins are where the boot connects to the binding by a locking mechanism in the bottom/side of the boot. On the other hand for strap in bindings you put your boot in place and then strap it in with 2 straps that come over top of your foot. A lot of people prefer the strap in bindings, but to each his own. Personally im a bit strap in fan.

Just out of curiosity what board/bindings are you looking at?

[Jod91493]

Im looking at a burton cruzer rental board for 150$ that i want for christmas and the Sims Recoil Bindings for 50$

[Matt Larkin]

yeah burton does a triangle thing but normal bindings will still fit fine,heres my example:

http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=63029

[Jod91493]

y make a new thread for this question: can you grow out of bindings? and also, wat are some cheap boots? (im like a size 9)

[faceofflax15]

no different boards are built with different arrangements of screws holes to fit different arrangements of screws

but pretty much yes all bindings can fit all boards, really the only exception to that is burton, they have their own pattern, you have to get special inserts for burton boards/ bindings to fit other boards/ bindings.
Yet, I havn't seen a bindings and a board that won't go with eachother..
Just curious, can you actually tell me two that don't? As i've seen numerous bindings with burton boards.

[gigo567]

y make a new post for this question: can you grow out of bindings? and also, wat are some cheap boots? (im like a size 9)
Yes you can, So far I have grown out of Burton bindings and now use Ride LX bindings.
But don't worry, it takes awhile to grow out of them. You can adjust them to fit larger shoes sizes as you grow. :thumbsup:

And for boots get some Northwave boots, best boots ever. :agree:
http://www.northwave.com/

[Jod91493]

thanks gigo, does anybody have ideas for a cheap pair of boots, size 9ish, and by cheap i mean like under 75 about

[gigo567]

thanks gigo, does anybody have ideas for a cheap pair of boots, size 9ish, and by cheap i mean like under 75 about
Get some Northwaves or look through here: http://shop.ccs.com/browse.do?categoryID=13&sidenavTrack=snow.boots

[Warrior]

You can grow out of bindings, they come in different sizes like small, medium, large and there are a few people making xl's. They are designed to fit different groups of boot sizes, like the larges i have fit size 9-12, while others fit a different boot range.

For cheap boots i suggest checking e-bay for last years models, you should get a pretty good deal on a decent pair.

And for bindings fitting on boards, for people who like to put their bindings closer or farther then the middle 4 dots, it won't work.

Burton= - :-- : -
Everyone else= : : : :

[Jod91493]

is putting bindings on hard? how many holes are there in the bindings? im guessing 4, in a square pattern, but im not sure

[Warrior]

Your right, and if you can tighten a screw then its not hard... The hardest thing about putting bindings on is spinning the baseplate to the angle you want your bindings in. I go 9 back foot and 15 front foot, but like i said earlier.. To each his own...

[gigo567]

Your right, and if you can tighten a screw then its not hard... The hardest thing about putting bindings on is spinning the baseplate to the angle you want your bindings in. I go 9 back foot and 15 front foot, but like i said earlier.. To each his own...
Mine is 15 front foot and 3 back foot.

It looks like this \ /

[laxpro]

no different boards are built with different arrangements of screws holes to fit different arrangements of screws

but pretty much yes all bindings can fit all boards, really the only exception to that is burton, they have their own pattern, you have to get special inserts for burton boards/ bindings to fit other boards/ bindings.

If you buy newer Burtons, you can put them on any board. Burton has all different kinds of 3 different base plates that are on one normal one, if that made any sense. Right now, I am riding a Nitro T1 with Buron Mission bindings. Both are at 15 degree angles. Riding duck-ffooted rocks, it makes it easier to ride/land switch.

[raykessler]

Yet, I havn't seen a bindings and a board that won't go with eachother..
Just curious, can you actually tell me two that don't? As i've seen numerous bindings with burton boards.

http://snowboarding.about.com/cs/gearbindings/a/BindingInserts.htm

heres the excerpt:

Burton's Proprietary 3D Pattern

We really like Burton's 3D insert pattern. It offers a range of stance options by overlapping sets of triangular inserts that, when used with a Burton binding containing three matching holes, offer the user ample opportunity to dial in a near perfect stance.

The only major disadvantage to Burton's system is that it is only Burton's system. They have a patent on it and use it on their boards exclusively. So, in order to ride a Burton board you must also buy 3-hole compatible bindings, reducing the options available to you as a consumer.

[laxpro]

That is false,
as you can clearly see here. Look at the base plate. (http://www.backcountry.com/store/BUR1168/large/c7/s48/Burton-Freestyle-Snowboard-Binding.html?swatch=FRSGUN)
With Burton bindings, you can still use the 3D nonsense for Burton boards, but you can also use it for Uni-Disk or normal.

[twin58]

is putting bindings on hard?

No. Other listers have already pointed out that some binding plates have three holes, while other have four holes. You'll know which one to use.

If you're into tools, you'll want to use the right tool for tightening or loosening the binding screws. Most people use a #3 Phillips® screwdriver for this purpose. It's the tool I used to use. It is close, but it is not right.

Then, for Christmas - oops, I mean, "the holidays" - two years ago, my younger brother gave me the right tool for this job. It is a #3 Pozidriv® driver. Yes, it makes a difference. The Pozidriv® bit makes a much better connection with the fastener. He got it from Tognar Toolworks; I had sent him the website and said "buy this one." The same driver is used on ski bindings as well.

Tognar Ski and Snowboard Binding Tools (http://www.tognar.com/binding_tools_boot_canting_glue_ski_snowboard.html )

You can also buy this driver from Facom (http://www.ultimategarage.com/facdrivr.html), Matco, Mac Tools, or Snap-on®. Sears does not sell one, and neither does Home Depot or Lowe's. I'm sure your friendly local ski or board shop can order one for you, maybe from Sun Valley Ski Tools (http://www.svst.com/).

Because I just happen to have the Snap-on® catalog right here, I see that the equivalent Snap-on® Pozidriv® driver, part number SDDZ63A, is $26. The 6" Snap-on® bit driver, part number SDM653A, is the bargain of the lot at $6. That's $5 less than Tognar wants for its 6" bit driver. I ought to pick up one of those to take with me, if I were ever to find the time to go skiing or boarding anywhere. Ask at any local car dealer to find out when the Snap-on® tool dealer will be paying a visit.

Yes, I know I'm being rigid and authoritarian about this, but once you've used the Pozidriv® driver, you won't go back. Try it; you'll see.

[raykessler]

That is false,
as you can clearly see here. Look at the base plate. (http://www.backcountry.com/store/BUR1168/large/c7/s48/Burton-Freestyle-Snowboard-Binding.html?swatch=FRSGUN)
With Burton bindings, you can still use the 3D nonsense for Burton boards, but you can also use it for Uni-Disk or normal.

my point is you have to use a special disc to use NON BUROTN bindings with a burton board, because all other boards use a different pattern.

[Jod91493]

ok but heres basically my main question that i really need answered:

Will These Bindings:http://www.proboardshop.com/si1re04b6zz-sims-bindings.html


Fit with this board (size 160, the blue one): http://shop.sierrasnowboard.com/browse.cfm/4,1039.htmtarget=blank


*and by fit i mean that i wont have to buy any special tools or make any dramatic changes to the board or bindings


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[twin58]

Will These Bindings ... Fit ... this board

I don't know, but that's no reason not to answer anyway.

The illustration of the Burton board clearly shows the bolt pattern Burton uses for its boards. There are eight holes and threaded inserts in the board for each binding. There are eight holes for the front binding and eight holes for the rear binding.

If you study the bolt pattern, you can see that the eight holes form four overlapping equilateral triangles. Two of those triangles are pointing up, and two are pointing down. OK? Therefore, any binding intended for use with a Burton board has to have a binding plate, the disc in the center of the binding, with three holes cast in the pattern of an equilateral triangle. Bindings used on other boards will have binding plates with four holes cast in a square pattern. Any pair of bindings can be used with either the four-hole or the three-hole pattern, as long as the binding plate matches the pattern in the board. I think most bindings are sold with two pairs of binding plates so that they can be used with any board.

The people to ask are at the shop selling the bindings. They can tell you quickly if there is a pair of three-hole binding plates included with the bindings. If so, then they will fit the Burton board.

I tried finding the Sims website, but the URL I saw in a few places came back with a "404 - not found" reply.

It struck me as unusual that a rental board would be sold without bindings. Is there a ski area or shop near you that is selling off last year's rentals? Did they not have any boards of interest to you?

[Jod91493]

^^^^^^ OMG thank you Twin58, that cleared up SOOOO many questions....and u know how u said that most bindings come with 2 binding plates so it can fit with any board? well if that specific binding doesn't, can u buy a seperate binding plate that would work w/ the burton board? im just wondering

and about ur last paragraph, about the rental board and ski shop, i didn't really check my local ski shop for boards, and i probably should.

and also there are some other boards i was checking out like the Motive Presssure that u can see at boardzone.com, and i was wondering which do
you think is better quality? (i dont mean it to be preferance)

[twin58]

can u buy a seperate binding plate that would work w/ the burton board?

Any company that sells bindings that won't fit Burton boards will have a limited market.

and about ur last paragraph, about the rental board and ski shop, i didn't really check my local ski shop for boards, and i probably should.

The selection is best at the end of the season, but they still may have a few. Think globally; shop locally.

....
the Motive Presssure ... which do you think is better quality?

I wouldn't have any idea. I don't keep up with new boards. Mine are pretty old. (http://www.ltcconline.net/wallace/LTCC%20Snow%20Riders%20Club/snurfer%20ad.jpg)

[Mr. Raw]

get flows. theyre awesome.

[Jod91493]

Any company that sells bindings that won't fit Burton boards will have a limited market.

what do you mean by that, they only sell certain bindings that will fit burton boards, and most others they sell are impossible to put on a burton board?

[twin58]

Let's simplify things and say that each binding consists of five major parts:

1) there's the part that goes under the sole of your boot.
2) there's the part that is up against the back of your leg.
3) there's a strap that is near your toes.
4) there's a strap that is near your ankle.
5) there's an adapter plate that holds part 1 to the board.
And of course they're all held together with a bunch of nuts and bolts.

Parts 1 through 4 ought to be the same no matter what board you're riding. It's part 5, the adapter disc, that determines whether parts 1 through 4 can be used on a Burton board or a non-Burton board. If a pair of bindings is sold with two pairs of adapter discs, one pair for Burtons and one pair for non-Burtons, then the bindings can be used on just about any brand of snowboard, unless there's some obscure pattern I don't know about. Maybe Nidecker makes a board that will accept only Nidecker bindings. So how many Nideckers do you see? Again, I don't keep up with things.

If a company says, "we will make bindings, but we will not provide adapter discs that fit the Burton pattern," that company has eliminated a huge part of the market. Why would they want to do that? It would be like Michelin making tires, but those tires don't fit Fords. It would be irrational.

[Jod91493]

but is there any way you can buy the adapter plate to make the bindings go with a burton board if the bindings dont come with 2?

[twin58]

Unless it's made by the manufacturer of the bindings, then I'd have to guess the answer is "no." Either the discs come with the bindings, or you have to shell out a few bucks to buy them separately, or you're out of luck.

I'd find it hard to believe that a Sims binding would not be available in a form that fit Burton boards. This is a question that the shop selling the Sims bindings would be able to answer. Send them an email to see what they say. They won't mind.

[Jod91493]

will do, thanks for all your help Twin58, cleared up a lotta questions i had, im sending the email now.

[jjmoto]

no different boards are built with different arrangements of screws holes to fit different arrangements of screws

but pretty much yes all bindings can fit all boards, really the only exception to that is burton, they have their own pattern, you have to get special inserts for burton boards/ bindings to fit other boards/ bindings.

i have last years burton cartels on a capital unorthodox and it fits perfect i didnt need to get special inserts and my old k2 was the same

[laxpro]

my point is you have to use a special disc to use NON BUROTN bindings with a burton board, because all other boards use a different pattern.
Sorry to bring back an older thread, but my Burton Missions came with only one base plate that could work for any of the three set-ups.

http://thumb7.webshots.net/t/10/11/1/65/12/2521165120095291427OLvfdr_th.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2521165120095291427OLvfdr)

See the triangle in the middle?
What now?