Switching Labels?

[FredtheCat]

Have you ever switched the labels or packaging on lacrosse equipment in a store in order to get it for a cheaper price? I'm not doing this to put people to shame or anything, it's just that whenever I go to a large sporting goods store, they always tell me about how people are switching the bags that gloves are in and the labels on shafts....

[laxerattacker]

i've heard about it and stuff but if you go to a lax store where most the people there play lax they usually know the a kryptopro is not $12. i've heard of people getting titanium shafts for the price of an alluminum

[FredtheCat]

I'm mostly talking about the larger companies, like Galyans, Sports Authority, etc, where they don't know anything about lacrosse.

[zizuhyte]

stupid mean people
oh boy lets go rip off a big company..

[brlacrosse50]

tsk..tsk. ....neone who does this is a dishonest lax player :cry
:cry :cry :cry :cry

[bigDman]

or a real cheap one :)

[MidiMaster2099]

in kansas everybody does it because its so easy to get away with. lacrosse isnt huge here so people at galyans or ****s have no idea what the prices are going to be. a lot of people will get like an evolution on a titan classic or something, and take off the sticker from the head, so they just ring up the stick and the cashiers think the head comes with it. i know kids who have gotten finalizers on titan pros for the price of a savage on some f15. i personally dont do this becuase galyans is the only place to buy lacrosse stuff and i dont want them to stop selling it like ****s did. ****s stoped selling lacrosse stuff because they made like no money becuase half the stuff got stolen or tag swaped ( i talked to a guy who worked there)

[MidiMaster2099]

d i c k s sporting goods is the store i was talking about that got blanked out

[jazzjon9]

yep, alot of people i know do it, but imo it's just stupid, just go online and find what you need, alot of times its cheaper than galyans and ****s anyways.

[26Easy]

ur telling me u do this but ur starting stick is a revo on a f15 lol...

[seanr9ne]

i did it :(....

my evo on a ti classic was for like 80 bucks...

[sumSum]

Yeah, I agree with most of the guys here. I've never done it and dont plan on it. The lax world is small enough that I'm gonna pay what I owe because these are the people providing me with the equipment I need to play the sport I love and I shouldnt be shafting them, just like if I expect to buy a new head I'm depending on the store to be selling me what I want.

I got a new stick two days ago and spent my chunk of change at Sports Her Way because I respect what they are trying to do in women's sports and I like the people who work there. They do not have the best prices but I know they are a minority so I send my business there.

[livin4lax09]

my friend tried it, but the person at the register caught it, and was like "that can't be right, they must have put the wrong tag on this." it was like a triton with a db803 for the price of a blaze on an f10

[bigDman]

ive neever done it though ive thought about it

[RYU]

Originally posted by bigDman
or a real cheap one :)There's no shame in being frugal and honest. Some people are on a tight budget.

[smitt5168]

i feel bad for the poor kid who buys a rotor on and al6000 for $150.

[FredtheCat]

To prevent people from switching the bags that gloves are in, some gloves are attached to the bags with security cord things. For some reason, they only put them on all of the crappy Warrior gloves though, and leave the Ignitors, Vents, and Hyperflexes for anyone to switch around. Apparently they've also been brainwashed by Warrior's shiny materials...
:banghead

[Gatsby]

This is kinda off topic, but I object to how much lacrosse equipment costs. A plastic head probably costs about $2 to manufacture, but the companies charge $80. That markup is ridonkulous. I know the lacrosse companies are for-profit businesses, but if you look at hockey equipment which is pretty similar, you won't find such an outrageous markup.

You can get good hockey gloves (which are probably better made than lacrosse gloves) for $40. Lacrosse gloves are over $100. Hockey sticks are about $20. Lacrosse sticks are around $200, with the head, shaft, and stringing.

Now, I'm not suggesting that people put it to the Man and steal from him, but the Man has certainly been putting it to us consumers for a while.

[FredtheCat]

Originally posted by Gatsby
This is kinda off topic, but I object to how much lacrosse equipment costs. A plastic head probably costs about $2 to manufacture, but the companies charge $80. That markup is ridonkulous. I know the lacrosse companies are for-profit businesses, but if you look at hockey equipment which is pretty similar, you won't find such an outrageous markup.

You can get good hockey gloves (which are probably better made than lacrosse gloves) for $40. Lacrosse gloves are over $100. Hockey sticks are about $20. Lacrosse sticks are around $200, with the head, shaft, and stringing.

Now, I'm not suggesting that people put it to the Man and steal from him, but the Man has certainly been putting it to us consumers for a while.

Yeah, I kinda agree with you. A Finalizer costs $70 more than an Odyssey to the consumer, but the difference in production costs is no more than a few cents, if anything at all. The same goes for most gloves, they're all just similar materials put into different designs. Shafts are a little different, since titanium obviously costs more than aluminum, but $100 for a few ounces of titanium is still overpriced.

[jazzjon9]

Um, you guys don't know hockey at all, Wood sticks are 20, but Composite sticks are 160. Gloves are 70 for a good pair, and skates are 150 at least. And first off, you gotta pay for the mold (100,000$ or something), but the technology that goes into it is also important. The torque had a lot more man hours put into than a blaze, I'm sure, thus upping the price. Still, Even with those facts, a finanlizer shouldnt cost 100, thats just bs

[goalieskcickay]

Yeah, jazzjon put it verrrry well. Hockey is at least as expensive as lax.

[smitt5168]

i can see the price jack up. you see they (the companies) have to pay employees ship there stuff out and a whole lot of other stuff.

[Gatsby]

If my prices were a little off, the comparison still illustrates the point that lacrosse companies seem to jack up their prices. E.g., top-of-the-line hockey gloves = $70. Top-of-the-line lacrosse gloves = $160.

I was only comparing equivalent equipment (price of hockey stick vs. price of lacrosse stick. Or price of hockey glove vs. price of lacrosse glove). There is no lacrosse equivalent for hockey skates. (I guess you could say cleats, but I think those are more comparable to tennis shoes than to ice skates.)

Regarding the costs that go into design/research and development, there are design/r&d costs in every product. The funky lamp you buy at Target designed by Michael Graves had design costs too (and also needed a $100K mold), but Target doesn't charge the consumer $100 for it. Rather, it's only $20, even though it also had significant design costs associated with it. But Warrior, Brine, STX do charge the consumer $100 for a similar sized piece of plastic. If that amount is to cover their design costs, then they are overcharging for their design costs.

[J_Man55]

Wrong again. There's plenty of hockey gloves priced over $150 (e.x. Eagles). Hockey equipment ends up being a lot more expensive then lacrosse equipment. In lacrosse all you have to buy is stick, gloves, pads, and a helmet (and maybe cleats). With hockey you have to buy a lot more. I've been in skates since I was 3 so I know a thing or two about hockey equipment.

[Gatsby]

Originally posted by J_Man55
Wrong again. There's plenty of hockey gloves priced over $150 (e.x. Eagles). Hockey equipment ends up being a lot more expensive then lacrosse equipment. In lacrosse all you have to buy is stick, gloves, pads, and a helmet (and maybe cleats). With hockey you have to buy a lot more. I've been in skates since I was 3 so I know a thing or two about hockey equipment.

I was relying on the price ($70) that someone above has posted. Maybe I shouldn't have.

Your point is the same point I made in my second paragraph. I was only comparing the prices of equivalent equipment (glove vs. glove), not the aggregate price of both sports. Obviously, hockey has more equipment, thus, its aggregate cost is higher.

[Dan]

yeah, they don't just pay for the plastic. they have to pay for the machine, materials, labor, management, shipping costs, advertising. so they pretty much cover costs with sales. if they sold the items for what they bought them for, or at say 50% markup, they'd have huge losses.

[jazzjon9]

What Gatsby is saying is right, they do jack up the prices, but also, if theres one thing thats way overpriced, its hockey goalie pads. 300 for a helmet, 300 for a glove, 300 for a blocker, and 1000 for leg pads. Dang

[lax n brew]

Originally posted by seanr9ne
i did it :(....

my evo on a ti classic was for like 80 bucks...


I did it at galyans... I took the price off a warrior goal net ($40) and put it on a Titan Classic with a Finalizer... On top of that, when I got to the register I told the guy it was on a shlef that said $30 and asked him which price was right... He gave it to me for $30! It ended up being $32.74 or something like that...

[goalieskcickay]

Ya gotta love those idiots.

[attackman69]

i did it at galyans w/ a synergy hockey stic. its $150 but i switched it w/ a $20 stick and the guy dint even kno. its kinda scary

[attackman69]

300 for a helmet, 300 for a glove, 300 for a blocker, and 1000 for leg pads. Dang

blockers rent $300 i play goalie in ice its like 200 for a good 1

[spenny]

its stealing. plain and simple and wrong.

you can thank your pal dave morrow and warrior for overpriced lacrosse equipment. they have to make and sell an awful lot of heads to cover the cost of design, manufacture, mold creation, marketing, etc. if each comany didnt come out with 4 new (rediculous) heads every season, heads would be a lot cheaper.

when i was in HS, the manufacturers could recoup the cost of the molds over many years, now they heads are out of production in one or 2 seasons.

[D4lax]

the only lacrosse store here is a lax specialty store so they know their stuff(no matter how over priced it is)