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spike191
11-01-2006, 08:42 PM
Anyone have any idea what head Jake Dean (long pole faceoff man for Umass)? I wonder if its anything special and if it has anything to do with his great success other then just his amazing skill.

gigo567
11-01-2006, 08:44 PM
No, its just his skill. Its the Wizard not the wand.

EHSLAX12
11-01-2006, 08:47 PM
gigo pretty much summed it up but i think he used either a revo or evo.

spike191
11-01-2006, 08:56 PM
This is about the best i can find but it stil, does't let me know...
http://www.lax.com/cimages/bigs/16/1605-7.jpg

I just want to know because being a LSM im always looking for advice on how to step up my game even the tiniest bit.

Lax101
11-01-2006, 08:58 PM
This is about the best i can find but it stil, does't let me know...
http://www.lax.com/cimages/bigs/16/1605-7.jpg

I just want to know because being a LSM im always looking for advice on how to step up my game even the tiniest bit.
A head will not increase your game the tiniest bit at all. If you wanna get better (and this goes to anybody), the time you spend trying to research someone's stick is much better used practicing on your own game.

MACDADDY
11-01-2006, 09:02 PM
ya. i prefer my icon to F/O with over my Kannon(suposidly made for F/O because if short throat). i just like how the icon wraps the bottom rails around the ball.

checklax
11-01-2006, 09:04 PM
A head will not increase your game the tiniest bit at all. If you wanna get better (and this goes to anybody), the time you spend trying to research someone's stick is much better used practicing on your own game.

How a pocket is strung could though... if you have a flat tennis racket type factory strung head you're not going to do all that well.

CHSLax66
11-01-2006, 09:11 PM
A head will not increase your game the tiniest bit at all. If you wanna get better (and this goes to anybody), the time you spend trying to research someone's stick is much better used practicing on your own game.
so your saying you would do just as well with a torque as say... and edge ice? having good equipment does increase your ability to play well. As far as facing off, there are definately good heads and bad heads. you wouldnt want something that warped for instance.

ReLaxin 13
11-01-2006, 09:14 PM
I'm about 80% sure it was an E3 or Edge.

spike191
11-01-2006, 09:14 PM
what i ment is for face off... there a head does make a difference, espcially when a person as good as jake dean faces off a little different then everyone else

checklax
11-01-2006, 09:17 PM
what i ment is for face off... there a head does make a difference, espcially when a person as good as jake dean faces off a little different then everyone else

Yeah it does matter what head you have for face offs cause it depends on how you face off. You dont want the stiffest head like a mohawk head for facing off if what you like is a little flex for your face off moves. Find the head thats perfect for you though, he faces off diferently than you though, so he'll have a different head choice that might not fit your style of play.

GLAX16
11-02-2006, 12:05 PM
He used a cyber for a bit, not sure if he used it in the tourney

EastCoastSurf
11-02-2006, 01:45 PM
looks like an edge

http://www.lax.com/bimages/1654/22

dragonlax
11-02-2006, 02:00 PM
yeah he uses an edge i saw it in a few pics before and at the final four they had a close up of him doing a f/o on the big screen.

MeTHLax18
11-02-2006, 02:01 PM
yep he uses a regular old edge.

RIT37FO
11-02-2006, 02:09 PM
edge :agree:

GLAX16
11-02-2006, 02:26 PM
Like I said before he also uses a cyber:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/372/1024906186lyb5.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1024906186lyb5.jpg)

edit: click to make huge

fatmanlax
11-02-2006, 02:41 PM
Like I said before he also uses a cyber:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/372/1024906186lyb5.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1024906186lyb5.jpg)

edit: click to make huge

hes using a cyber there

ekajsk8er
11-02-2006, 03:08 PM
http://www.lax.com/cimages/bigs/16/1654-24.jpg
Edge.

No head will make you better though, any good player could still do well with a bad head.

bpercival
11-02-2006, 03:15 PM
Like I said before he also uses a cyber:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/372/1024906186lyb5.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1024906186lyb5.jpg)

edit: click to make huge

buddy thats jack reed not jake deane lol

CSlax06
11-02-2006, 03:42 PM
Ive only ever seen him with a Edge, dont know about the Cyber.

Mad-Max
11-02-2006, 03:49 PM
in the mll now he uses a finalizer. but I think he used like an edge or e3 in college.

hcDevils391
11-02-2006, 04:12 PM
yeah thats not jake deane with the cyber like said before

Lax101
11-02-2006, 04:20 PM
so your saying you would do just as well with a torque as say... and edge ice? having good equipment does increase your ability to play well. As far as facing off, there are definately good heads and bad heads. you wouldnt want something that warped for instance.
Absolutely wrong. Yeah, an edge ice may break-but does that mean the time you play with the head is going to worsen your abilities? Gary Gait used a Rotor in the NLL and nobody could tell a difference in his game. Some of the best players in the country use wide, old heads on attack.

There's a fine line between performance and durability. If I use a head that warps versus a head that never warps on faceoffs, is that one face off going to be effected? The issue in the long run is whether you'll need to buy new heads every month. Otherwise, I've seen the best FOGO's use every kind of head. Look at the laundry list of heads e-lacrosse cited as possible FO heads. Some like them wide, some pinched, some offset, some onset, some flexible, some stiff, some heavy, some light. You are buying way too much into what companies and the media tells you if you really think one head is going to make you play better.

ptlax79
11-02-2006, 05:38 PM
he was at the lacrosse camp i went to and there he had a finalizer on like a k-lyte

GLAX16
11-02-2006, 05:44 PM
buddy thats jack reed not jake deane lol

ah good point, I was not thinking.

mikeymike4
11-02-2006, 06:06 PM
its an e3 i saw it at the ncaa championship game

Laxmann019
11-02-2006, 06:09 PM
No, its just his skill. Its the Wizard not the wand.

what a coincidence(sp?) my dad says that to me all the time. Great saying

CHSlax
11-02-2006, 06:45 PM
ok for a fact i know he used and edge for 90% of the season. I'm from the area i went to almost every umass homegame.

jedimasterPIMP
11-02-2006, 09:26 PM
so your saying you would do just as well with a torque as say... and edge ice? having good equipment does increase your ability to play well. As far as facing off, there are definitely good heads and bad heads. you wouldn't want something that warped for instance.
Lax101 is right on this one 100%. If you saw what some of the "greats" use you would be shocked, because it doesn't matter. On the face off note, anything can work, no joke. I absolutely killed a kid using a goalie head and he was using a blade. You give me something and I will face off with it and win with it. That being said I definitely prefer flexible heads, but thats just me.

Longpole5435
11-02-2006, 09:34 PM
Lax101 is right on this one 100%. If you saw what some of the "greats" use you would be shocked, because it doesn't matter. On the face off note, anything can work, no joke. I absolutely killed a kid using a goalie head and he was using a blade. You give me something and I will face off with it and win with it. That being said I definitely prefer flexible heads, but thats just me.
Haha, rrrrrrrrrrrright.

I don't disagree with Lax101, but it doesn't hurt to have the right kind of head. A pole playing with a Torque is not going to work as well as say an X2 or Revo Pro. Same goes for shaft and stringing. it would be stupid to discount these factors. A stick does not make a palyer, however. On that, there is no dissent from me.

lacrossemonkey8
11-02-2006, 09:51 PM
i agree with longpole5435, but this thread isnt about the whole "its not the wand, its the wizard" thing, it is a simple inquiry as to which head jake deane.

and by the way, in harry potter they spent a long time looking for a good want that harry can use, because all the ones he tried didnt fit his style of wizarding. so to me this saying implies that one should be careful which head they pick so they pick a stick that fits their style of lacrossing. perhaps a rotor was the best head for gary gait that fit his style.

THALAX
11-02-2006, 10:05 PM
i agree with longpole5435, but this thread isnt about the whole "its not the wand, its the wizard" thing, it is a simple inquiry as to which head jake deane.

and by the way, in harry potter they spent a long time looking for a good want that harry can use, because all the ones he tried didnt fit his style of wizarding. so to me this saying implies that one should be careful which head they pick so they pick a stick that fits their style of lacrossing. perhaps a rotor was the best head for gary gait that fit his style.
Thank you. All this talk of "It's the wand, not the wizard" was getting so annoying. You summed it up perfectly. :worship:

jedimasterPIMP
11-02-2006, 10:08 PM
Haha, rrrrrrrrrrrright.
Haha swear to God. You would be surprised how easy it is to jump with a goalie head. Since there is a large gap between the throat of the head and the ground all you have to do is just move that over the ball and BAM you won. If you even think about clamping your dumb cuz you will never even ever win doin that.

MACDADDY
11-02-2006, 10:16 PM
lol and it would be IMPOSSIBLE to rake if i was the one that had to go agianst a goalie head. id probably get my head stuck in the mesh

LvIlLeLaX5
11-03-2006, 02:49 PM
he used a edge i saw im bring it on the field in the final four i was like 5 feet away could see it was a old school edge the best head ever

manhassetlax
11-04-2006, 12:16 AM
many of u think it was an edge... its really an E3 (which look more pinched)

gigo567
11-04-2006, 01:37 AM
many of u think it was an edge... its really an E3 (which look more pinched)
No, its a pinched Edge.

E3: http://www.lax.com/shop/item.phtml?page=product_4193_front.phtml

His Edge: http://www.lax.com/cimages/bigs/16/1654-24.jpg
http://www.lax.com/bimages/1654/22

That is a Edge, not a E3.

sirlaxalot125
11-04-2006, 10:01 AM
Deane used two different sticks

an e3 and a cyber

he used the cyber more tho

RamLacrosse
11-04-2006, 05:10 PM
dude, a head can help you at faceoffs. im sure he could do awesome with any head but its his prefrence. its a more comfortable head. if hes comfortable hes face off better

hcDevils391
11-04-2006, 09:30 PM
he was coaching my indoor practice today and had a torque on a cut down k pro or klyte, not sure which but it was really cut down

Laxmann019
11-04-2006, 09:34 PM
Totally agree with lax101. It always comes down to skill.

MDlaxin69
11-04-2006, 09:41 PM
im pretty sure Jake Dean could use a 6 foot long broomstick and still beat any of us in a F.O.

he would find a way to