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Storm21
11-25-2006, 11:35 AM
Okay so this year we are having some trouble with finding a rink to play at because they want to renovate the only rink in town that has a concret floor. But we just asked the city if we could go to one of the bigger rinks and put down ply-wood and then over the wood turf. Im so pumped for this because i love turf haha. We need to know what they use for the lines and cicrles on the turf and what kind of turf does the NLL use?
anyone that could help would be awsome!! thanks
KnightsLAXDad
11-25-2006, 11:51 AM
Careful, the OLA got sued several years ago for "improper installation" of turf (I think they put the turf right over the ice and a guy fell into the boards and broke his neck) I don't know all the details off hand but they have some pretty strict guidelines now about it which you have to follow if you want insurance.
Storm21
11-26-2006, 02:34 AM
do you know what they use for turff?
oldboxtender
11-26-2006, 02:36 PM
When I was with the Detroit Turbos, we used the Astro turf laid over plywood that then went down over the ice at Joe Louis Arena. Big problem was the seams and holding down the turf to the plywood. Catching a toe on a seam was a danger. It sounds great but it was an issue in most of the rinks. The turf was not attached to the plywood all over (only by duct tape so it could be removed), so when you were running, came to a quick stop, the carpet would buckle and bunch up. It could be very unstable in some areas.
They painted the turf with paint for the markings, the MILL logo, Turbos logo and Coors Light (I do not know what kind but I did see the crew at Joe Louis touching it up).
It also gets entertaining when the boards are warped, corners up. The boards didn't always fit together real well either, causing gaps and buckling/overlapping. That can help you blow out a knee or roll an ankle pretty quick. If you do play on that kind of turf, get your ankles taped, football style. Most of our guys got taped and we still had the rolled ankle every once in awhile.
Stay out of the corners and at the boards... most were never anchored and just laid up the dasher boards. Lots of crashes head first into the boards during our first year until we figured it out. It acted like stepping on a throw rug on a waxed floor. It came out from under you pretty quick.
Keep in mind that these rinks for the most part were pro hockey rinks and were used to doing this. If the rink pros had these issues just imagine what a local rink will run into with a much smaller budget and smaller crews.
Any current NLLer out there for an update? This is how it was through 1991. After that we need newer input.
Hope this helps. Good luck.
RockStar
11-26-2006, 02:46 PM
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I've scrimmaged on an NLL team's turf once, and can report similar experience......The temporary turf is laid in a half-arse fashion, in a way designed to make it quick and easy to lay down and rip back up again. The turf doesn't fit quite right and doesn't sit flat. The seams and the edges by the boards can be deadly. The bounce sucks - tracking loose balls is a challenge if you're used to concrete boxes.
Now, i've also played a fair bit of rec lacrosse on astroturf that's laid down permanently at indoor soccer places......this stuff is OK, but I still prefer concrete for better bounce and that you don't get that horrible turf burn if you fall or get knocked to the ground.
sidewinder19
11-26-2006, 03:08 PM
Now, i've also played a fair bit of rec lacrosse on astroturf that's laid down permanently at indoor soccer places......this stuff is OK, but I still prefer concrete for better bounce and that you don't get that horrible turf burn if you fall or get knocked to the ground.
yah the permanent soccer astro turf is better than the nll crap.nll stuff is really easy to trip on and seriously watch those corners,be ready to jump at any time.
#15Roadies
11-26-2006, 04:07 PM
It's called Dieter Turf, well the last version of the stuff was, I think there might be an updated carpet they use now. And from what I hear, it is quite expensive to cover a rink type surface...
www.sportexe.com seems to be down...
BravesLaxer
11-26-2006, 04:10 PM
The NLL uses a carpet like turf, It's basically like a green flat carpet with a little padding underneath. If any of the New Yorkers here have ever been to Shuart Stadium(hofstra) it's the samething as that.
ReLaxin 13
11-26-2006, 07:46 PM
I've played on Minnesota's turf and its basically carpet. I didn't notice plywood under it, just ice, (I got curious so I peeled it back :agree:)
Do you guys have any roller hockey rinks up there to use?
RockStar
11-27-2006, 06:07 AM
Do you guys have any roller hockey rinks up there to use?
Like hardly any......why would you want to play roller hockey when you can play ice hockey?
Relaxer19
01-08-2007, 08:19 PM
i played junior stealth and the fields arent too bad. theyre flat for the most part but only roll up a bit on the boards
Relaxer19
01-08-2007, 08:22 PM
Ive seen all u canadian players play on that grey stuff is it concrete??? because we always play on turf no matter what in cali for box
Pitibear
01-08-2007, 08:31 PM
...why would you want to play roller hockey when you can play ice hockey?
'cause the game is very cool. Don't be an ice snob, dude.
On the artificial turf, use the internet to check out the manufacurers in northwest Georgia, there's about a dozen, and they can custom make the best product in the world. Get a "short-knap" turf, the long thread models just fall over flat with wear anyway, get a poly backing, and you can specify the "foam" backing as thick as you want. I just got off the phone with a guy who tells me that manufacturers now make an interlocking (velcro) 4' by 6' turf section, you can get as many as you need palletized, goes on and comes up easy, and is virtually seamless when installed correctly.
Hop on the internet and you can find these things. This guy is suposed to email me some info in the next few days, I'll pm you if he does.
RockStar
01-08-2007, 08:58 PM
'cause the game is very cool. Don't be an ice snob, dude....
I kind of understand if you're doing it in the summertime when rinks are thawed, but I just don't get it during periods when there's ice available.
It's not even like a field vs. box argument - In this, there's the same size rink, similar skills and strategy, and similar rules.....so, like, if it's the same thing, why pretend to do it differently?
Pitibear
01-08-2007, 11:33 PM
...so, like, if it's the same thing, why pretend...
okay, so, please accept that the tactile sensation of the energy transfer through wheels is preferable to that of ice blades...I just get off on the feeling so much more than ice...in my case, I'm not saying one is better, it's just my personal preference. I have spent over 5,000 hours on ice over my lifetime, although over 12,000 on wheels over the past 15 years...almost forgotten ice, sort of...