A note to all those getting recruited [Archive]

Eclipse

12-28-2006, 10:38 PM

I have noticed an enormous increase in threads in this forum asking about D1 lacrosse. A note to all of you:

Do not set your lacrosse career with the goal of playing Division 1 Lacrosse. A good majority of my high school career I just wanted to go D1. Do not make this mistake.

Alot of you seem like you want to play Division 1 just to play Division 1 and could care a less about the school. Beleive me when i say that there is alot more to the recruiting proccess. When it comes time for you all to start looking at schools, take that mindset of D1 or bust and throw it right out the window. When choosing a school you should be considering many things including:

-Location
-Education
-Will I get any playing time
-Do I like the Coach

Be conscious of the fact that you will get letters from several Division schools if you are active in the recruiting process. Be sure to consider the things Noted above. Just because you get a letter from a school does not mean you can make the roster, and even if you do it does not guarantee you playing time. Please be aware of the decisions you make while getting recruited. Although Lacrosse is very important to us, it is going to last forever after college and it is important you plan college to accomodate your entire life, not just your lacrosse career. You will not be happy if you choose a school just to play Lacrosse, beleive me.

Social Life is very important in college, please keep that in mind.

This is just my opinion. Although many of you may not agree with me please take this advice. Be thorough, and have a well thought out recruiting process. Stay in touch with the coaches and contact them often. Get a good feel for them and the program as well as the school or you may regret your decision.

shootandfeed

12-28-2006, 10:57 PM

thanks for this, ill keep it all in mind

egrlax10

12-28-2006, 11:59 PM

faceofflax15

12-29-2006, 12:04 AM

also keep in mind price as most d3 schools are private schools, making them expensive, and remember that you are going to college to get an education, not to play lacrosse. so dont go to a school just because the lacrosse team is good, or just because the coach likes you and says you will play a lot. make sure that the school has good academics and that you are going to be happy and get a good education.
if you go to college soley for lacrosse, and you are positive you are going to play in the mll/nll, remember they are getting paid LESS than teachers..so you'll BARELY going to be able to support yourself, if you go to a school just for lacrosse, don't expect to have a succeding family, take the education because that way you can succed for 50 years instead of four.

lilaxgurl23

12-29-2006, 01:17 AM

Very good advice. This has been stated many times in this forum, however it is not said enough. Go to school for an education first, lacrosse second. That, and reach all you want for a D1 school, but when you start being recruited and maybe not by the teams you hope, take a second to ask why. Don't force yourself to believe you're good enough if you aren't; many people get blinded in the recruiting process and take themselves to be much better than they actually are. Set goals, but keep your expectations realistic. I know it's harsh, but it's reality and realizing your abilities early on will help prevent and major revelations later in the process when it's too late.

Also, if you go D1 do not expect a scholarship that will cover the schools expenses!!! IMO you're more likely to get a better academic or need-based aid than you are to get a decent lax scholarship. With only 12.6 (or 12 for the ladies) and usually 30+ players, money is limited, so don't count on it. Bring your grades to the table and you'll find that many D3 schools offer reasonable prices or have decent scholarship opportunities.

In the end, if you don't go D1 it is not the end of the world and you shouldn't think anything less of yourself. My sister set her eyes on D1, even got a few offers, but it turns out it just probably not going to happen. Some D3 schools catch her eyes and honestly I think she's going to be extremely happy with her choice. She's going to get to play right as a freshman, enjoy her teammates and coach, and just have a great time. All while attending a great school. I couldn't be happier or more proud of her.

Find the school that fits you and whatever your needs are. Lacrosse isn't going to be there for most of us after college, so make sure you go to college for what is going to be there after the four years of studying.

EDIT- Stickied for the time being

O.G. Laxin

12-29-2006, 11:23 AM

There will only be about 500 kids that will play D1 lacrosse in your class. Dont put all your eggs in one basket. Top D3 programs are better then some D1's.

TheLaxLife

12-29-2006, 12:21 PM

Best advice I ever heard about shoosing a college:

Make a 40 year decision, not a 4 year one.

dpole4life

12-29-2006, 12:23 PM

But D1 is the only one to give full ride scholarships on lacrosse...and i have now money. What do you say to that scenario?

spenny

12-29-2006, 12:32 PM

But D1 is the only one to give full ride scholarships on lacrosse...and i have now money. What do you say to that scenario?

go to the library and hit the books.
any college, D1, D2, D3 will give you more money for good grades than it will for lax.

also, the full ride is almost nonexistant in lacrosse.

lilaxgurl23

12-29-2006, 12:44 PM

But D1 is the only one to give full ride scholarships on lacrosse...and i have now money. What do you say to that scenario?

Men's lacrosse gets 10.8 scholarships to give out.

If you have no money, I suggest you start studying hard. As spenny said, you're much, much more likely to get academic aid that you are athletic aid. Don't count on lacrosse for paying for your education because chances are, it's only going to pay for a small part of it... if any at all.

Eclipse

12-29-2006, 05:56 PM

But D1 is the only one to give full ride scholarships on lacrosse...and i have now money. What do you say to that scenario?

Unless you are gods gift to lacrosse..dont bank on getting a Full ride anywhere. Even the top five will give maybe two kids on the team a full ride and the rest just get split up.

Like said earlier...you may even be able to get more scholarship money at a D3 school with a solid GPA and ACT/SAT scores. They dont have a limit to how much Academic Scholarship money they can give out.

O.G. Laxin

12-29-2006, 09:43 PM

i guess this is kind of off topic but i heard there have only been 6 full rides for incoming freshman ever in lacrosse. Has anyone else heard this?

Live4It

12-29-2006, 11:08 PM

My assistant coah this past season could've easily made it in to a D1 school, I think he may have had offers, but instead he went and played for a D3 school because the school had a really good buisness program and thats what he wanted to major in. And he has been pretty sucessful after college, in buisness. Just thought I'd share.

faceofflax15

12-29-2006, 11:09 PM

But on another note, if you are getting recruited to a top d1 school, you're getting a good education too, as JHU, UVA, UNC, Duke etc aren't slackers.

lilaxgurl23

12-30-2006, 12:13 AM

i guess this is kind of off topic but i heard there have only been 6 full rides for incoming freshman ever in lacrosse. Has anyone else heard this?

I think that's pretty much a rumor. Full scholarships are rare, but not that rare. I'd say a few are given out every year between mlax and wlax.

But on another note, if you are getting recruited to a top d1 school, you're getting a good education too, as JHU, UVA, UNC, Duke etc aren't slackers.

I don't think anyone ever said that they were bad schools educationally. The main point of this thread is to educate people so that they choose a college based on the college itself, not the division of lacrosse it competes in. Don't go to a college just because you can play D1, if you can go to say Amherst or other fine D3 schools, don't pass them up just because their D3. Just choose wisely and realistically, that's all we're saying.

raykessler

12-30-2006, 01:06 AM

But D1 is the only one to give full ride scholarships on lacrosse...and i have now money. What do you say to that scenario?

Kyle Harrison was only on 3/4 of a full scholarship. There are few if any full rides given out on any given year. Its easy to get a full ride if your playing football, they have something like 80 to give out, only about 60 people are allowed to dress for games, that means at large state schools and football powerhouses there are as many as 20 people on a full ride for football that will never see a minute of playing time. Because lacrosse isn't a money making sport we don't have the luxery. Like people have said before even if your good enough to be playing D1 expect to see little if any scholarship money for playing.

lilaxgurl23

12-30-2006, 02:57 PM

Kyle Harrison was only on 3/4 of a full scholarship.
Does anyone actually know what his scholarship was made out of? Is this 3/4 just lacrosse? If so, did he opt to make his scholarship so that he could have the rest in academic aid (in case he ever ended his career, he would still get money)? I find it interesting that he only had a 3/4 scholarship by the time he graduated, I've heard of coaches increasing scholarships as a player grows and becomes more of an asset to the team. But it would make perfect sense if he was recieving academic aid or some other form of finanacial aid because then there is no need to increase the athletic aid (you can't give a student aid worth more than what it would cost for tuition, room and board, books and fees).

faceofflax15

12-30-2006, 03:23 PM

I think that's pretty much a rumor. Full scholarships are rare, but not that rare. I'd say a few are given out every year between mlax and wlax.

I don't think anyone ever said that they were bad schools educationally. The main point of this thread is to educate people so that they choose a college based on the college itself, not the division of lacrosse it competes in. Don't go to a college just because you can play D1, if you can go to say Amherst or other fine D3 schools, don't pass them up just because their D3. Just choose wisely and realistically, that's all we're saying.
Sorry I didn't clarify that, Just if we do have any D1 prospects here, I didn't wnat them to get scared of the top d1 school making them think they were bad schools or anything.

sammyduelist

12-30-2006, 11:02 PM

truth

12-31-2006, 07:51 AM

No, it wont be more of a money maker, and schools budgets are very tight. Title IX issues. Hit the books. Many choose a top DIII program over a mid level or bottom tier D1 program.

laxstar003

12-31-2006, 11:56 AM

Does anyone actually know what his scholarship was made out of? Is this 3/4 just lacrosse? If so, did he opt to make his scholarship so that he could have the rest in academic aid (in case he ever ended his career, he would still get money)? I find it interesting that he only had a 3/4 scholarship by the time he graduated, I've heard of coaches increasing scholarships as a player grows and becomes more of an asset to the team. But it would make perfect sense if he was recieving academic aid or some other form of finanacial aid because then there is no need to increase the athletic aid (you can't give a student aid worth more than what it would cost for tuition, room and board, books and fees).

i would imagine that academic aid at hopkins would be very hard to come by. most of their aid is need based, so if his family is needy, then that could be very likely.. but otherwise, i doubt he got other aid.

Eclipse

12-31-2006, 01:01 PM

Yeah this thread is definantly a saver. For a while I almost went crazy wanting to go d1 or bust. This has definantly made me think clearer. Eclipse, I worship you for you may have saved my life :grin:

Although I'm only freshman. :concerned hehe

But do you guys think by the time of 2011 lax has a chance to be more of a money maker then it currently is for colleges?

Honestly it may not be any more then it is now. There is a chance for some more Division one programs but, I dont know about more money.

Honestly guys just play play play and study study study. When the time comes along if you have the skills to play Division 1...go for it. If not, dont be heartbroken on the fact it didnt happen. Use your grades and go for a solid Division 2 or 3 school. Its all the same in the end as long as youre playing.

spenny

01-05-2007, 08:31 PM

Eclipse

01-06-2007, 06:23 PM

fully funded mens lax programs get 12.6. many arent fully funded and many dont offer any scholarships at all.

who gets how much money is between the player, his parents and the coach. anything you hear otherwise is a guess, a rumor, or a lie.

This is very true and even relates to D2 moreso then D1.

When I sat down with a couple D2 coaches at certain schools to talk about scholarship it went something like this:

"Well here is how much we can give you academically speaking. All you need to do now is file a FAFSA and see how much you can get through Financial Aid...then we will use some athletic scholarship to cover the remainder of what you need to make the school affordable."

Get the mindset out of your head some coach is just going to call you and say "We want to give you a half ride, are you in?"

RollDodge21

01-07-2007, 12:09 AM

My buddy (current HS senior) was recruited by over 50 schools from all three divisions this year. Seriously recruited by 20 of them. Although he was never interested in any DII schools so I can't say what they would have offered, the most he was offered was from a bottom tier DI school and it was a 1/2 scholarship. Nobody else came close to that. None of the top 10 programs recruited him and of the three (2006 rankings) 10-20 ranked teams who were recruiting him he was offered around 10% athletic scholarship money.

The above posts are pretty accurate except the roster sizes are creeping up and probably average over 40 players. You do the math... 40 players and 12.6 scholarships IF the program is fully funded (for example, Hobart and the Ivys have no athletic scholarship money). Finally, you have to meet NCAA SAT and GPA requirements to receive academic scholarship money if you are an athlete. They are very strict to keep schools from cheating.

ghs/wylax

01-11-2007, 03:51 PM

egrlax10

01-11-2007, 05:02 PM

I don't want to discourage getting better grades to get a full ride, but my friend's brother just got one from Limestone College(a top 10 D2 school) with a 1.8 GPA. If you are really good, and schools need you they may work around the athletic scholarship rules.

EDIT: I just realized the coach of Limestone used to work at the local middle school, so that's probably why he got the free ride.

im sorry thats just pathetic to have a 1.8 gpa. and then to get a free ride to college, that just makes it even worse. thats basically saying that as long as youre good at sports, you can do whatever you want in school. and thats especially bad because that kid is most likely not going pro in lacrosse. no offense meant, just my opinion on that.

lilaxgurl23

01-11-2007, 05:29 PM

I don't want to discourage getting better grades to get a full ride, but my friend's brother just got one from Limestone College(a top 10 D2 school) with a 1.8 GPA. If you are really good, and schools need you they may work around the athletic scholarship rules.

EDIT: I just realized the coach of Limestone used to work at the local middle school, so that's probably why he got the free ride.

I highly doubt he has a 1.8 GPA. NCAA rules state that in order to be eligible for an athletic scholarship at the DII level, you must have a 2.0 GPA. No exceptions. Now, the way it was weighted might be different when the NCAA looks at it, but I can garuntee you that it was not a 1.8 when all was said an done. That, or he is lying and didn't recieve any money (or lied about his GPA). Either way, something doesn't add up...

Eclipse

01-11-2007, 05:44 PM

I also dont want people to think thats the norm.

Rarely do people ever get a full ride...especially to D2....especially with a 1.8

Besides..whats so bad about getting good grades, it just equals more money in college people.

spike191

01-13-2007, 10:47 AM

somrandomguy

01-13-2007, 06:30 PM

I realy think most peolpe have the idea that its NCAA lacrosse or bust, I'd be happy to play for any school at an NCAA level. It seems in my mind that club or JuCo is a last resort. Anyone else feel that way?

Lacrosse is lacrosse, at any level. The level of competition and commitment at the club level surpasses that of plenty of NCAA programs. While it's not really a problem for you, seeing how you're from New Jersey and most East Coast colleges have varsity lacrosse, there are plenty of players good enough to play lacrosse at the NCAA level who choose to go to a college with club lacrosse for other reasons beyond athletics. Don't go to a school just because it has varsity lacrosse when another school is a better fit in other ways.

Also, if you play for a serious club team, you'll actually probably play more lacrosse than you would for alot of D2 and D3 (especially) NCAA teams, because they aren't under NCAA rules limiting how much time they can practice. For example, the school I'm looking at that plays club lacrosse starts on the first day of classes and goes basically year-round.

LAXMomx3

01-21-2007, 08:27 PM

lilaxgurl23

01-22-2007, 06:01 AM

About the NCAA.. While I didn't look it up, I thought you could get a 1.8, but then your SAT or ACT scores had to compensate for the poor GPA.. much like saying You're smarter than your GPA would indicate. Still... I agree with the previous poster that this is pathetic and completely lowers any opinion I might ever have about Limestone College as a fine institution of learning.

I think I mentioned in this thread, or maybe another, that the lowest GPA for initial eligibility is a 2.0 for both D1 and D2. D1 has the sliding scale to which you are refering to about the SAT being able to compensate, but if you check out NCAA.org or the NCAA Guide for the College-Bound Student-Athlete, you'll find that the academic requirements regarding GPA is a 2.0 for both. In D2, they don't have the sliding scale so the minimum SAT requirement is just a number not dependant on your GPA.

When you actually get into college though, your eligibility and GPA depend moreso on the college, as they decide what eligble is. So a 1.8 might be okay at one college, but not at another.

Eclipse

01-22-2007, 08:08 PM

Some colleges also allow for lower elgibility standards academically speaking for freshman...and increase it sophmore year.

Good academic at one University may be completely different at another.

Garor

01-22-2007, 08:51 PM

Good grades means more college options. You're trying to sell yourself to potential coaches, if you can show disipline in the classroom, you can show it on the field. And don't kid yourself, if you don't have the grades to make it at a school, don't go there. You don't want to struggle in academics all through college. There's more to life than going to a big name school! There's an even greater sense of pride at being there when a program turns itself around. Go to a rebuilding or even building program, you can be a major contributor from the begining.

laxer07

01-22-2007, 09:59 PM

wolfie8914

01-23-2007, 12:19 AM

Garor

01-23-2007, 01:10 PM

Okay...quick question. Let's say, for example, you are being recruited by an Ivy team. You have very good grades....but not exactly up to par with most ivy students. if you weren't being recruited, you probably wouldnt be able to get into the school...but you aren't way short of it academically. Obviously since Ivy can't give athletic scholarships, would the coach get any pull in getting you academic money, even though if you weren't a recruit you definately would not get any academic money, let alone get in very easily?

The ivys have a certain amount of players they can get in per academic level. It's possible that your grades are above or are in the range. Find out where you stand with a coach. The ivy application process is different than signing with a college or university. Talk to the coach, they will try and explain the process better. I had two ivys in my top 4, so that's why I know.

crlaxdud148

02-07-2007, 09:32 AM

Do Division 2 school give athletic scholarships also, or just academic scholarships like Division 3?

lilaxgurl23

02-07-2007, 11:51 AM

D1: Can give scholarships. A fully funded program can give 12.6 to a men's lacrosse program and 12.0 to a women's lacrosse program.
D2: Can give scholarships. A fully funded program can give 10.8 to men's lacrosse and 9.9 for women's lacrosse.
D3: No athletic scholarships are available.

crlaxdud148

02-07-2007, 12:26 PM

cool thanx i wasnt 100% sure if D 2 could give athletic scholarships or not

lilaxgurl23

02-07-2007, 12:29 PM

No problem. Just keep in mind that not ever school is fully funded. In fact, the majority aren't so at some schools, while they may technically be able to give out $$, they really can't because they don't have the funding. Play it smart and don't rely on lax to pay for college.

LAXMomx3

02-07-2007, 08:08 PM

I had a rather lengthy conversation with our Athletic Director last night. He has been doing this a long time, and was an AD an a New England prep school for a long time before moving here. In any event, with regard to the Ivies and a lot of the New England schools (and I am sure, there are others), no offer of admission is to come from any one other than the admissions office. In addition, no athletic scholarships of any kind are given, not even DI schools. All monies are strictly need-based. Most of these schools don't have academic Merit awards or scholarship either. So, long story short.. you're choosing these schools because of the education, period. As for Lax (or any sport for that matter), it's IS the hook that might get you in.

We have a senior girl who is being heavily recruited for hockey. She has a 3.91 GPA, is captain of three sports, volunteers her butt off, is a beyond-excellent student and a national merit semi-finalist, which tells you her SAT scores were GREAT. And the AD told me that the truth is, that even with those grades, scores, etc she might not have gotten in without the hockey "hook." In this case, and in regard to these schools, everyone is outstanding. The sport you excell in is only the hook that MIGHT set you apart. As it is, she is also a finalist in the state's Ms. Hockey award and currently has unofficial official offers of admission from Princeton, Dartmouth, Yale and Harvard. Moral? Hard work makes for good options. :-)

PS.. she also happens to be one of the best LAX players on the team as well and is probably the most unselfish player I've ever seen, on the field and the ice.

LeKKeR

02-07-2007, 10:26 PM

to add on about those of you determined to "make it in the pros"

taken from what i posted in this thread...
http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?p=1030250#post1030250

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http://jscms.jrn.columbia.edu/cns/2...murray-jockjobs

hope this link helps. basically..."the average salary per season is about $13,000 and most rookies make closer to $6,500"

here are some others...

http://www.dailyorange.com/home/ind...f0-0db7b475ac95

according to ryan powell "...in the first year of the league's existence, his starting salary was $30,000. The next year it was $20,000. This year he'll make $18,000.

But league executives don't see the depreciation as an alarming trend, just a better understanding of the league and its revenue. The goal for MLL is that future pro lacrosse players will be able to make a living solely off lacrosse. But when that time will come? Nobody can be certain."

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/other...lacrosse08.html

the nll - "...an average league salary of about $14,000, and first-year players making as little as $400 a game"
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just make sure you understand how valuable an education is :)

atklax13

02-07-2007, 10:33 PM

well said. I almost went to a school I would have been miserable at except for lax season so that i could play lacrosse. I was offered a very nice scholarship and would have been a major link missing at this school, however as eclipse said there are more important things than lacrosse. take this to heart. I might be only playing club but I'm at the school I wanted to be at.

cdslax

04-22-2007, 08:28 PM

When playing club lacrosse in college, do you have to pay for things such as jerseys and trips to other schools for games? Like buses or plane fees?

goalieskcickay

04-22-2007, 08:31 PM

When playing club lacrosse in college, do you have to pay for things such as jerseys and trips to other schools for games? Like buses or plane fees?
Rottingmind (hofstra club) and others will have more informed posts than mine, but generally you'll pay a due each year that will cover those expenses. So short answer, yes, you do have to pay for club lacrosse.

Eclipse

04-25-2007, 12:50 AM

Some Club teams have what is known as "Club-Varsity Status." I am pretty sure that Michigan is one such school. In these cases they do get an annual budget that is fairly large to help afford expenses such as travel, jerseys, but no scholarships.

Straight up Club Teams do have to pay for everything and it isnt unrealistic to have to pay over 1000 dollars per year to play on these teams.

PeteyLax13

04-25-2007, 05:35 PM

But D1 is the only one to give full ride scholarships on lacrosse...and i have now money. What do you say to that scenario?

DI schools may be the only ones to give full ride scholarships and scholarships period but DII and DIII coaches will do anything in terms of financial and bending the rules aid to get a certain player on their team

I'm the same way in terms of money and have gotten looks from some DIII and a some DII and DI schools I've asked coaches how financial aid is for athletes who need it and they've said it can cover a pretty hefty amount of tuition depending on test scores and academic performance in high school

Altogether I'll have to agree with Eclipse and say don't just depend solely on DI full ride scholarships, look into DII and DIII schools that offer good financial aid, some schools even offer campus jobs to work off tuition so that you can pay in monthly increments instead of annual dues

John Hopkins11

06-05-2007, 05:41 AM

getting into a good college also can be easier if you come from a good high school or gradeuate top of the class. my dad, uncle, and aunt all went to school in the small local school in new hampshire. my uncle graduated validictorian-excuse my spelling, and he went to dartmouth (ivy league) my aunt was the exact same story and she went to yale (ivy league), my dad graduated 2nd in his class and went to bates he had offers from ivy league but bates had the best medical program.

John Hopkins11

06-05-2007, 05:44 AM

Eclipse

06-05-2007, 08:52 AM

everyone was talking about how people shouldnt go to college for just lax because you wouldn't make any money or have a education. how much do mll players make?
how muhc do nll players make? and last does anyone have an idea of how muhc mikkey powell make?

Solely based off lacrosse salaries? 20K a year, at most. Mikey Powell maybe makes more off his deals with Brine, Scion, and others...but how many of us are Mikey Powell's?

Based off of what they make in their other career's, likely quite a bit. Alot of D1 players attend schools like Duke, Harvard, Brown, Princeton, Dartmouth etc where they can get amazing education...but these are certainly a select few, and I guarantee alot of them chose the schools they chose for the education.

At the D2 and D3 level it changes a little bit, there are some fairly poor educational choices at those levels, and some outstanding ones as well. Beleive me, no lacrosse player has ever made enough salary to support a family off lacrosse salary alone, except for a select few like Powell's and Gait's.

DJ Death

06-05-2007, 10:28 AM

most of the guys in the MLL play for the love of the game and have a real job. MLL is basically a hobby or a side-job at most to them. there was a thread on this in the general men's field forum. just one of the many examples is matt ward -- he sells real estate.

D4LIFE

06-07-2007, 05:06 PM

Never forget about the club teams, some of them will be more likable than the D1!

kbgkbg

08-08-2007, 09:41 AM

Does any one know when the recruiting issue will be coming out????

kbgkbg

08-08-2007, 11:04 AM

Does any one know when the recruiting issue is coming out????

lilaxgurl23

08-08-2007, 11:16 AM

I think it comes in the mail in September.

MadMikeTheSpike

09-29-2007, 12:28 PM

Guys, remember that an average career in pro football doesn't last very long. It was like 2 1/2 years for a running back. Imagine how short a Lacrosse career might be. Let education come first, cus if you ended up in a wheel chair from playing Lacrosse, where would you go from there?

FamousAmos

01-04-2008, 10:25 PM

im a sophmore right now, and i want to be recruited to play NCAA lacrosse, however, unlike many of my peers, my dreamschools are all division 3, AND in-state! there are over 10 division 3 lacrosse schools in virginia, which i am pretty interested in all, since i want to be a teacher when i grow up, finding a major at any of those schools should be easy. However, what should my first step be, on getting recruited?

egrlax10

01-04-2008, 11:18 PM

email the coaches of the schools that youre interested in.

pbca57

01-08-2008, 01:29 PM

Great string. It should be emailed to every high school soph. or junior right now!!!

Oh..let me change that, it should be emailed to the parent of every high school soph. or junior right now!!! Espcially prior to them ponying up the $700-$1500+ for the summer select team.

glax82

02-28-2008, 08:16 AM

full scholarships basically do not exist....

spenny

02-28-2008, 09:06 AM

full scholarships basically do not exist....

take the max 12.5 scholarships and divide by the 30-40 players that most D1 teams carry.
you will see that glax is speaking serious truth.

(dont forget that a lot of schools dont even offer the full 12.5 scholarships)

LaxGranny

03-14-2008, 02:29 AM

I highly doubt he has a 1.8 GPA. NCAA rules state that in order to be eligible for an athletic scholarship at the DII level, you must have a 2.0 GPA. No exceptions. Now, the way it was weighted might be different when the NCAA looks at it, but I can garuntee you that it was not a 1.8 when all was said an done. That, or he is lying and didn't recieve any money (or lied about his GPA). Either way, something doesn't add up...

I agree. This is a doubtful tale. Did the OP actually see the recruiting offer or the GPA?

Some people (families) might think that it's better to let others think the athlete got a "full ride" (even when they didn't) and plan to cover the remaining tuition on the QT - to keep up appearances.

spenny

03-14-2008, 06:28 AM

ive also come to believe that there are a lot of people who dont know that the partial exists. so when someone says they "got money" it must be a "full ride"

i also think a LOT of people are lying about it

i love hearing about "full rides" in D3. :nono:

Crew_Socks

04-02-2008, 04:50 PM

I realy think most peolpe have the idea that its NCAA lacrosse or bust, I'd be happy to play for any school at an NCAA level. It seems in my mind that club or JuCo is a last resort. Anyone else feel that way?

Thats how it is for most of the south. The good players will get recruited, but not really all that much by the top tier programs. In lots of states in the south, the public universities offer free tuition if you maintain a 3.0 GPA. That alone is more affordable than going up north to a D2 or D3 school and leaving in debt. The majority of really good lacrosse players end up attending large state schools that compete in the MCLA. While they are just club teams, the skill level is very comparable to D2 and D3, and many club teams have beat some of the lower tier D1 schools. It is really a good option if you want to continue playing lacrosse, but dont want it to run your life and want to graduate debt free...

lids369

05-05-2008, 09:23 PM

but if u go to a good d1 school chances are you will not be present at the classes, my bro goes to a d1 hockey school and d2 lacrosee and hes never seen any of the players from either team in class.

Eclipse

05-17-2008, 11:20 AM

but if u go to a good d1 school chances are you will not be present at the classes, my bro goes to a d1 hockey school and d2 lacrosee and hes never seen any of the players from either team in class.

What is this supposed to mean? I just completed two years of NCAA lacrosse at a D3 school and kids on my team always went to class.

There is a slight problem with being a college athlete and not going to class. You don't play.

Tex71

05-17-2008, 05:44 PM

What is this supposed to mean? I just completed two years of NCAA lacrosse at a D3 school and kids on my team always went to class.

There is a slight problem with being a college athlete and not going to class. You don't play.

I think that he means that you would miss some classes due to being at practices or on road trips for games. However, these players that miss practices and games have a tutor to help them with the classes that they miss, so they end up doing the work anyway jsut when they have the time to do it. Also at D1 i believe that they offer tutors and some require assigned study hours for student athletes to be caught up with all of their classes and to do their homework.

WAHOOWA_LAX

05-18-2008, 09:10 PM

So wait.... I have wanted to be a coach since i was a kid, and I'm a Junior in HS and STILL want to be a coach. I've been watching nothing but NCAA ads that are trying to tell me I can't go pro in sports and to give up and study and become a boring business man. If I want to be a coach then playing at a prestigious lax school is very important, it's rare that none NCAA lax players every become head coaches for a living.

I am going to college based on lacrosse, and you can make the best out of any of these universities.

"Social life is a very big part of college so picking a college based on lacrosse is a bad idea"

-Umm, thats why colleges have thousands of people, you can find friends like yourself nearly anywhere. And if your serious about lax, you have a team of 25 guys to be friends with and get close to before most people even get to know eachother.

lumber

06-22-2008, 01:56 PM

Good luck to this kid survivng college if he can't even pull off a C average in high school. He will be on constant academic probation, I don't think a coach would take that chance with his scholly $$

AHA 22

07-14-2008, 06:59 PM

thanks to everyone who has posted this has been really informative

Just throwing this out there but does anyone else notice that you dont hear a lot about the D2 lacrosse programs

To me it just seems like media-wise D1 and D3 get the most attention
does anyone know why???

willomite

07-15-2008, 10:55 AM

one more thing that most people dont know, paul rabil and mike levielle are good lacrosse players, but have secondary jobs. just becausse u make the mll, doesnt mean ur set for life

LAXx4xLIFEx

07-15-2008, 11:18 AM

Coach Hank Janczyk once told me that you have to make priorities. He asked me if i would walk across a board from one fence to another if one hundred dollars was on the end. Everybody said yes. Now, he said if there was the same board on top of the twin towers(while they were still up), but there was a million dollars on the other side. Nobody raised there hand. He kept going up until he got to ten million dollars. Nobody raised there hand. Then he asked a mother if there was a guy holding there kid by the neck on the other side, and the only way she could get him back is to cross the board. She said she would do it. The point is life is all about priorities. So make a list of priorities of things you look for in a college.

For those of you who dont know coach Hank Janczyk. He coaches at Gettysburg college. He is one of three coaches in NCAA lacrosse history to have three hundred wins. He is also a counselor and a very wise man.