Kids thinking they're getting recruited

[Laxmann019]

Hey guys. So I was in school today and some kids I know think they're getting recruited by Virginia(which is a long shot), They're Freshmen. These kids are pretty good but their grades just aren't good. I think they have about an overall 80 average. What do you think their chances are? Do you know anyone who thinks they are getting recruited but it's a long shot?

[IHSLAX4]

umm this is impossible seeing that a college coach cant even talk to you until your a junior so unless these kids are the bratton brothers then that is complete crap

[Laxer1241]

dude what school in syracuse are you from?

[swish7209]

^^ hes from westhill

[Laxer1241]

I have never heard of a westhill player getting recruited from a good D1 school ever...and they think they are going to Virginia no offense

[Laxmann019]

None taken. I don't like the kids. Just a month ago they were talking about going to hopkins. THey have no idea what they are talking about

[shootandfeed]

no you gotta have way better grades than a 80 percent...and thats only like football and bball when your grades dont have to be good to play at a smart school...like duke bball

[SweetLaxer14]

Virgina.. not so much I mean you can get in with a 80. but granted these kids have the skills to play.. Yes, even though it's "illegal" the top notch schools such as Hopkins, Duke, Virginia ect. Basically have their recruiting classes already settled by the players sophomore year. If a team really wants someone they will get them.

[lhslax1990]

virginia you can not get in with an 80 im pretty sure about that

[Redbirds Lax]

When you guys are saying 80 percent ... is this american grades or canadian grades because i believe that marks are different... am i right??

[Laxmann019]

American^^^^^^^ if there's a difference

[SDballer]

if shoolc want you they can get u in...end of story

[checklax]

I have never heard of a westhill player getting recruited from a good D1 school ever...and they think they are going to Virginia no offense

Just cause they go to a school no one has been recruited from before, doesnt mean they can't be recruited. What does make it hard for them to be recruited is their grade average.

[wwhlax00]

you definately cannot get in virginia with an 80 percent average unless you are the best athlete ever.

[Laxmann019]

if shoolc want you they can get u in...end of story

Not really. Colleges have standards. You can't get in if you're a total idiot

[Eclipse]

Not really. Colleges have standards. You can't get in if you're a total idiot

Schools can pull alot of strings. Tyler Hansbrough (UNC Basketball) was not a smart kid..in fact he is kind of dumb..and he is doing fine.

Either way no freshman are going to be getting serious looks from schools like UVA, JHU, SU or even any schools at all for that matter. Ignore them...when they dont go to those schools you can laugh about it.

[SDballer]

of course if you are amazingly dumb u wont get in...but if they want you bad...some schools can pull strings if you work hard

[PMRaiderLax6]

Even if they have an 80, they have three more years to get their grade up.

[lilaxgurl23]

Mm, there are definitely academic standards one must meet in order to be admitted. Schools definitely set ranges which student-athlete must at least fall in at the minimum. Some are lower than others, but at a school like UVa, they're not going to let a someone that has horrible grades in, no matter how well they play lacrosse. Not to mention the NCAA has its own set of rules that you must meet in order to be eligible to play, practice and receive a scholarship.

Last, for this whole topic, you would know if they were truly being recruited by UVa. Not only is it early, but they would probably have to be some prodigies to get that type of attention as freshman. Pretty much, they're lying. Let them believe what they want and see what happens in two years. If they get an email on September 1st at 12:01am, they might not be lying, but it sounds completely false to me.

If you're straight up amazing and UVa really wants you, they'll pull strings for you if you have a B. However, this requires that you're probably top five in the country. Remember, UVa has a lot of options out there, many, many players want to play for them. Don't give them a reason to say no, because you didn't try hard enough on the academic side.

[shakeNbake]

well a kid from my school who was in the bottom quarter of his class and had a tutor for everything kinda got a full ride to virginia, so yeah i guess sports matter

[lhslax1990]

shakeandbake is referring to matt kelly...i think

[wilsontopowell]

theres definently exceptions

[Laxer1241]

Just cause they go to a school no one has been recruited from before, doesnt mean they can't be recruited. What does make it hard for them to be recruited is their grade average.
I was just stating it would be harder for them because 1. of their grades and 2. their school isnt that big with big schools so they wont get noticed as say west genny or most other big schools like that; plus those big schools bring in other top recruits alredy noticed and taked about so thats another leap....I dont know if that makes sence to you or not?

[O.G. Laxin]

Ahh nothing like the infamous full ride...

Virginia, Hopkins, Maryland, and Syracuse must have atleast 40-50 scholarships. Seems like everyone that goes to play lacrosse at one of these schools gets a full ride.

[MaKiMaKi13]

these kids have no idea what there talking about UVA is ridiculously hard to get into , i think its like a 3.85 GPA minimum and alone it costs about 35K for those out of state guys one of my friends got in but only because he's one of those super smart kids with a WGPA higher then a 4.0

[faceofflax15]

these kids have no idea what there talking about UVA is ridiculously hard to get into , i think its like a 3.85 GPA minimum and alone it costs about 35K for those out of state guys one of my friends got in but only because he's one of those super smart kids with a WGPA higher then a 4.0


You got your facts a little off man.

Student Body
1st-year students:71% In-state students
29% Out-of-state students
0% Part-time students
56% Women
44% Men
<1% American Indian/Alaskan Native
10% Asian/Pacific Islander
10% Black/Non-Hispanic
4% Hispanic
63% White/Non-Hispanic
5% Non-Resident Alien
7% Race/ethnicity unreported
86% in top 10th of graduating class
97% in top quarter of graduating class
99% in top half of graduating class
83% had h.s. GPA of 3.75 and higher
11% had h.s. GPA between 3.5 and 3.74
4% had h.s. GPA between 3.25 and 3.49
1% had h.s. GPA between 3.0 and 3.24
1% had h.s. GPA between 2.5 and 2.99


Annual College Costs ( Fall 2006 )
In-state tuition and fees: $7,845
Out-of-state tuition and fees: $25,945
Room and board: $6,909

[toey2516]

Players at the top schools do not all get full rides. Only the incredable ones. For example I can tell you Paul Rabil is prob not paying for college right now. But other players who do not start, even some that do, I would bet are prob getting a part ride. Which for non starters it is prob a part of a part.

[whslax11]

haha alex who thinks there going to virginia from our school?...cuaz thats retarted only good player is kise and hes gonna go d2

[lacrosseman192]

if there grades are in the 80s and if they cant pull them up no matter how good they are uva wont take them. uva is a MAD tough school to get into, when my sister was looking at colleges she say that they call uva a public ivy

[Bobsch]

They probably went to a camp where some UVA coach was and he probably told them, "you're pretty good for your age....I'll keep an eye out for you in the future" and they believe he's recruiting them. He probably said that to half the kids at the camp, if that's what happened. Half of the kids on my crappy HS football team heard things like that and thought they were getting recruited by schools like BC. In the end (over a four year period), 1 went to BC, 2 went to UNH, and a couple went to D3 teams.

[MadLaxPlaya16]

You got your facts a little off man.
dude it is like 35 or 38 k a year over there3 cuz the out of state tuition is just that u have to add board books and expenses to live. lynchburg college say is only 25k but if u look closer in their brochure thing they give out at their open house the average person pays around 33 to 36 k depending on what grants u get

[ftDpole35]

hahaha. sounds like these kids are full of it. no college looks at freshman, unless they are like gary gait's son. (if he even has one)

[lilaxgurl23]

For those of you saying it would be impossible to get in with an 80, it might be possible. It would be a stretch and you would certainly have to be good for a coach to want to push for you that much in admissions, but you're definitely going to find that athletes are most certainly not held up to the same standards as regular applicants. For example, I was reading on another forum how the Yale wlax coach sends out a letter asking of her student athletes that they have atleast a 1900 on their SATs and three SATIIs all above a 600. Now, considering Yale has some of the most rigorous admission standards (average is usually 2200 something on SATs) and yet you can be admitted with those kind of scores, I'm willing to bet UVa has lower standards as well. 80 is going to be pushing it, but if someone can make up for it with strong SATs, I think they might have a chance. I certainly have not gone through the UVa admissions and never will so I cannot say for sure, but being an athlete will help you as shown with the Yale example (which I'm going to try to confirm with two people I know who were recruited and will play for Yale wlax next year). It won't get you into school, but being and athlete will help you get into a school no doubt.

[laxmiddie11]

these kids have no idea what there talking about UVA is ridiculously hard to get into , i think its like a 3.85 GPA minimum and alone it costs about 35K for those out of state guys one of my friends got in but only because he's one of those super smart kids with a WGPA higher then a 4.0

like faceofflax said your facts are wrong. there is no minimum GPA requirement to get into UVA

[Thomson#1]

I have a friend who is good, moved up from Modified to JV, thinks hes getting recruited by Notre Dame, he says that hes already talked to the coach and blah blah blah blah, he carries a low - mid 70 average. He can't even spell lacrosse. It just makes me crack up whenever he mentions it.

[Tiger_Lax_44]

Grades can change if ya know what i mean if you are a good player. Coaches can do anything they want, they have like 2 full rides for people with a like under 2 GPA and i mean thast better than a 2 GPA so? i dont no what it is but i think it is better than 2

[lilaxgurl23]

Grades can change if ya know what i mean if you are a good player. Coaches can do anything they want, they have like 2 full rides for people with a like under 2 GPA and i mean thast better than a 2 GPA so? i dont no what it is but i think it is better than 2

Whatt, where did you pick up that stat? You're not even eligible to recieve athletic scholarship money with a grade below at 2.0 GPA. That doesn't even have to do anything with the school either, that's strictly NCAA rules.

A coach doesn't not have all of the power in the world. If the admissions do not want a student, there is nothing a coach can do to force them to accept the student. A coach can also use his scholarships on whomever he wants as long as they are eligible to recieve such grants, but they have to get into the school for it to even matter.

End of story, don't let your grades hold you back. Work harder at your education than lacrosse, it's going to take you further in life.

[Tiger_Lax_44]

ok well D1 school have two scholarship they can give to under 2.0 GPA because if i have this right D3 schools cant give full rides and im nto sure about D2? tell me about that one im not sure. But i know that D1 schools have scholorships to give to people with low GPAs

EDIT: when i said coaches have power i didnt mean that like they can totaly change their grade but they can kinda help kids get places

[lilaxgurl23]

ok well D1 school have two scholarship they can give to under 2.0 GPA because if i have this right D3 schools cant give full rides and im nto sure about D2? tell me about that one im not sure. But i know that D1 schools have scholorships to give to people with low GPAs

What exactly are you getting at? I don't see how the 2.0 has anything to do with the other divisions.

D1: Can give scholarships. A fully funded program can give 12.6 to a men's lacrosse program and 12.0 to a women's lacrosse program.
D2: Can give scholarships. A fully funded program can give 10.8 to men's lacrosse and 9.9 for women's lacrosse.
D3: No athletic scholarships are available.

Now, in order to even be eligible to recieve an athletic scholarship, you have to have a certain GPA and SAT/ACT scores. In Division 1 they have this thing called the sliding scale. Basically the lowest GPA you can have to even be eligible to recieve an athletic scholarship is a 2.0. With your 2.0, you also must have a 1010 (math and verbal only) or an ACT sum score of an 86. Anything less and you can't get any athletic money. As your GPA is higher, the less rigorous your SAT/ACT has to be though. In Division 2 there is no sliding scale, the lowest GPA you can have is a 2.0 and the lowest SAT is a 820 (math and verbal only) and the lowest ACT score allowed is an 68.

In other words, it is impossible for someone who has a sub 2.0 (out of a 4.0 scale) to recieve any money, let alone a full ride. Coaches do not get to go around this rule, it is mandated by the NCAA. If they fall within the requirements coaches are more than able to give them money, but having a GPA below a 2.0 is not within the requirements.

[smooth87]

You're not even eligible with a 2.0 gpa. I'm pretty sure you need to get at least a 2.1 your fall semester to even play in the spring.

[lilaxgurl23]

You're not even eligible with a 2.0 gpa. I'm pretty sure you need to get at least a 2.1 your fall semester to even play in the spring.

In this case we're talking about initial-eligibility in which case the lowest acceptable GPA is a 2.0. I believe once you enter into college, it depends on which college you attend as to what percisely your GPA has to be.

14.4.3.3 Fulfillment of Minimum Grade-Point Average Requirements

A student-athlete shall meet the "satisfactory completion" provision of this requirement by maintaining a grade-point average that places the individual in good academic standing, as established by the institution for all students who are at an equivalent stage of progress toward a degree.

Basically if you keep on reading in 14.4.3.3 there are specific percentages each year which your GPA must meet in order to graduate. I assume it's somewhere around a 2.0 for most schools though.

[faceofflax15]

dude it is like 35 or 38 k a year over there3 cuz the out of state tuition is just that u have to add board books and expenses to live. lynchburg college say is only 25k but if u look closer in their brochure thing they give out at their open house the average person pays around 33 to 36 k depending on what grants u get


So plus ''Room and board: $6,909'', and thats only for kids living at a dorm, there are numberous kids living an a apartment with a few friends.

[MaKiMaKi13]

like faceofflax said your facts are wrong. there is no minimum GPA requirement to get into UVA

while there may not be a minimum requirement to get into UVA its not likely your going to get in without a 3.75 or higher

[Tiger_Lax_44]

What exactly are you getting at? I don't see how the 2.0 has anything to do with the other divisions.

D1: Can give scholarships. A fully funded program can give 12.6 to a men's lacrosse program and 12.0 to a women's lacrosse program.
D2: Can give scholarships. A fully funded program can give 10.8 to men's lacrosse and 9.9 for women's lacrosse.
D3: No athletic scholarships are available.

Now, in order to even be eligible to recieve an athletic scholarship, you have to have a certain GPA and SAT/ACT scores. In Division 1 they have this thing called the sliding scale. Basically the lowest GPA you can have to even be eligible to recieve an athletic scholarship is a 2.0. With your 2.0, you also must have a 1010 (math and verbal only) or an ACT sum score of an 86. Anything less and you can't get any athletic money. As your GPA is higher, the less rigorous your SAT/ACT has to be though. In Division 2 there is no sliding scale, the lowest GPA you can have is a 2.0 and the lowest SAT is a 820 (math and verbal only) and the lowest ACT score allowed is an 68.

In other words, it is impossible for someone who has a sub 2.0 (out of a 4.0 scale) to recieve any money, let alone a full ride. Coaches do not get to go around this rule, it is mandated by the NCAA. If they fall within the requirements coaches are more than able to give them money, but having a GPA below a 2.0 is not within the requirements.

Ok thanx for clearin that up but i thought that schools have under 2.0 GPA rides i thought i was almost positive but guess not im not gona argue because i know i am rong haha :grin:

[faceofflax15]

while there may not be a minimum requirement to get into UVA its not likely your going to get in without a 3.75 or higher
That is true, when 80 percent of your student body has a 3.75 or higher, its very tough.

And everyone else that is below are the athletes.

[Laxer1241]

Just because it says Division III cant give scholarships doesnt mean they dont give their athletes "academic" scholarships....just throwing that out there

[cali feeder]

Just because it says Division III cant give scholarships doesnt mean they dont give their athletes "academic" scholarships....just throwing that out there

They also tend to give their recruits "benefits" instead of actual scholarship money.

[kjglacrosse19]

Virgina.. not so much I mean you can get in with a 80. but granted these kids have the skills to play.. Yes, even though it's "illegal" the top notch schools such as Hopkins, Duke, Virginia ect. Basically have their recruiting classes already settled by the players sophomore year. If a team really wants someone they will get them.


Just wondering if this is really true that the top schools really have their recruiting classes done by sophomore year...cuz i kinda fall into the category where i email some top programs coaches and they said they arent allowed to talk but to get back in touch with them as my junior year approaches and i have no idea if im good enough to play at the top d1 schools

[Tehb2]

None taken. I don't like the kids. Just a month ago they were talking about going to hopkins. THey have no idea what they are talking about


Some freshmen always have an attitude like they know what their talking about. Usually its just crap. :rofl:

[jsdwyer91]

this happens with everysport, freshmen say and have high hopes about doing a sport at a good competitivve college i run track, same thing, lacrosse same thing, it's prolly cause frosh sports are the easiest least competitive, just cause they excel in a freshmen game doesnt mean they'll do it once they get to be a junior/senior they'll be competing in varsity and realize, they have to have comintment with the sport and schools, a 80 average isnt bad but not virgina material,grades are important in the recruting process as well as the ability to play and perform kids dont realize that

[Marty]

if shoolc want you they can get u in...end of story
I'm pretty sure you'll need to know how to spell school though.

[swish7209]

well one of the kids laxmann019 is talking about is moving up to varsity, honestly i dont think he is that good he goes for the all or nothing checks mostly

[EHSLAX12]

i have 1 kid that thinks he is, but he probably will be. his family has contacts with brown because almost his entire family went to brown. he knows the coach personally, and his coach said he might be able to play there. hes so cocky about it though. he views it as a free ride there.

[!!!!!!!]

first of all id like to put out there that it doesnt matter what high school you're from, you can always get noticed.......its all about how hard you push to get seen.......secondly, ive noticed that people nowadays dont really know what recruiting is, half of them think that because they email a coach and someone responds back they think they are getting looked at, others think that letters inviting you to come to camps mean people are interested.....if you dont get any letters or emails from coaches on a regular basis you truly arent being recruited

[!!!!!!!]

umm this is impossible seeing that a college coach cant even talk to you until your a junior so unless these kids are the bratton brothers then that is complete crap
ha, thats what you think, they bend the rules all the time, i've been talking with coaches since before sophomore season

[helix28]

you deffinetly can get in with an 80 average

[faceofflax15]

you deffinetly can get in with an 80 average
Thats a 2.7 on the 4.0 scale, thats ...ehh, less than average. If your an all star athlete yes, if not, you better have something amazing on your sat scores to get there.

[lilaxgurl23]

ha, thats what you think, they bend the rules all the time, i've been talking with coaches since before sophomore season

I seriously doubt coaches have been talking to you (in a way against NCAA rules) since before your sophomore season. This isn't basketball or football, lacrosse isn't that mainstream yet and there isn't a huge need to look at kids that young. Sure, coaches are trying to get the edge every year, but I really, really don't see a coach risking it. Plus with lacrosse being so small, if it were truly happening all over, you would hear about it.

[!!!!!!!]

I seriously doubt coaches have been talking to you (in a way against NCAA rules) since before your sophomore season. This isn't basketball or football, lacrosse isn't that mainstream yet and there isn't a huge need to look at kids that young. Sure, coaches are trying to get the edge every year, but I really, really don't see a coach risking it. Plus with lacrosse being so small, if it were truly happening all over, you would hear about it.
you couldnt be more wrong, ive been communicating via email and telephone with coaches since way before my junior year

[preplax29]

I seriously doubt coaches have been talking to you (in a way against NCAA rules) since before your sophomore season. This isn't basketball or football, lacrosse isn't that mainstream yet and there isn't a huge need to look at kids that young. Sure, coaches are trying to get the edge every year, but I really, really don't see a coach risking it. Plus with lacrosse being so small, if it were truly happening all over, you would hear about it.

I have been talking to a coach and I am a sophomore, he is more interesetd in seeing me play then recruiting me yet. Its a DIII school, so they can talk to you before the summer of your junior year.

[lilaxgurl23]

you couldnt be more wrong, ive been communicating via email and telephone with coaches since way before my junior year

Before your Sophomore season? Either you're a prodigy child that none of us knows about, or you're lying. Coaches don't have that much interest in freshmen. They're not even close to being fully developed and they have two classes ahead of freshmen that they are looking to recruit. They push the recruiting process, we've all heard about that, but even with all the extremely personal talk on other sites (much, much more than on this one where you practically hear about when a certain individual recieves calls/emails from coaches), I can say I've never once heard of a coach seriously looking/communicating with a freshman. Lacrosse is way too small for something like that to not leak.

Frankly, I can't ask you to prove this, but I know this is not the norm as you may suggest. You have to be simply oustanding, and even then I'm will to bet a coach wouldn't risk such behaviors for a student-athlete in lacrosse.

EDIT- I'm not refering to DIII either, so if you've been talking to DIII coaches, then that doesn't even apply to the situation, as the original poster that you quoted was obviously refering to DI.

[preplax29]

true. i know what you are saying. i totally agree with the whole DI thing, i thought i would throw the DIII thing in there anyway.

[Gannonthecannon]

An extremely close friend of mine, Corey Mcgann, has been on first name basis with the head coach at Notre Dame for quite some time. And we are both just starting our jr year. At the midwest challenge, our sophmore year, the head coach was walkin up to talk to all the teams there and walked by us and stopped at talked to corey for a while.

Corey is an extremely talented goalie, and he also plays at St Joe's right across the street from ND. But as far as that goes, i cant really say if he is recruiting him or not, but i can be pretty positive that corey will be in between the pipes for the irish someday.

[!!!!!!!]

Before your Sophomore season? Either you're a prodigy child that none of us knows about, or you're lying. Coaches don't have that much interest in freshmen. They're not even close to being fully developed and they have two classes ahead of freshmen that they are looking to recruit. They push the recruiting process, we've all heard about that, but even with all the extremely personal talk on other sites (much, much more than on this one where you practically hear about when a certain individual recieves calls/emails from coaches), I can say I've never once heard of a coach seriously looking/communicating with a freshman. Lacrosse is way too small for something like that to not leak.

Frankly, I can't ask you to prove this, but I know this is not the norm as you may suggest. You have to be simply oustanding, and even then I'm will to bet a coach wouldn't risk such behaviors for a student-athlete in lacrosse.

EDIT- I'm not refering to DIII either, so if you've been talking to DIII coaches, then that doesn't even apply to the situation, as the original poster that you quoted was obviously refering to DI.
you really dont know what you're talking about, i said they have been talking to me before junior year, not before sophomore year.....that means that they talked to me as a sophomore.......btw, i throw away any letters from DIII, if you'd like me to take a picture of the box full of DI letters i have id be glad to

[lilaxgurl23]

you really dont know what you're talking about, i said they have been talking to me before junior year, not before sophomore year.....that means that they talked to me as a sophomore.......


ha, thats what you think, they bend the rules all the time, i've been talking with coaches since before sophomore season

Is it not easy to see how one could easily see that as them seeing you as a freshman? Most recruiting happens over the summer, so it would be easy to think you were a freshman when this all happened.


btw, i throw away any letters from DIII, if you'd like me to take a picture of the box full of DI letters i have id be glad to

I really could careless because for all I know, they're for an older sibling. Not to mention if you do, it's extremely easy to get a coach in hot water. I mean, feel free to, but realize you could get them into a ton of trouble if these are actually legit letters (which makes me wonder even more if you're even telling the truth, letters would be the last way of communication I would think they would use).

To add on, why are you throwing away the DIII letters? That seems awfully foolish. Yes, DI athletics are great, but many DIII schools have a lot to offer too. Until you're set on a school, I wouldn't reccommend tossing others just for the sake that they're DIII. You never know what might happen between now and when you sign.

[Lax101]

you really dont know what you're talking about, i said they have been talking to me before junior year, not before sophomore year.....that means that they talked to me as a sophomore.......btw, i throw away any letters from DIII, if you'd like me to take a picture of the box full of DI letters i have id be glad to
Well firstly you've established your lack of credibility by showing your arrogance at the recruiting process by throwing away DIII letters when anyone who follows NCAA lacrosse knows that the top DIII programs, ESPECIALLY Salisbury, are better than DI schools after the top 20-30 or so.

I'm really sure you're good enough for top DI programs to risk serious NCAA violations just to recruit you.

And:
first of all id like to put out there that it doesnt matter what high school you're from, you can always get noticed.......its all about how hard you push to get seen.......secondly, ive noticed that people nowadays dont really know what recruiting is, half of them think that because they email a coach and someone responds back they think they are getting looked at, others think that letters inviting you to come to camps mean people are interested.....if you dont get any letters or emails from coaches on a regular basis you truly arent being recruited
So really, you're telling us that YOU have been receiving letters/emails/phonecalls from coaches on a regular basis before sophomore seasons, which is even more ludicrous.

[mdlax09]

haha i like how people say theyre talking on the phone to coaches their sophmore season..1)Its against the rules. 2) they wouldnt break the rules even if u were going to Boys Latin or Georgetown Prep, theyre obviously lying. But u can email coaches at any time..like what i did in the fall of my junior year, but all theyll say is send me grades/film and if ur playing any club teams, send me ur summer schedule..ur not really being recruited..they just interested.

[helix28]

You can so get into to Virginia with 80 avg.

[preplax29]

Well firstly you've established your lack of credibility by showing your arrogance at the recruiting process by throwing away DIII letters when anyone who follows NCAA lacrosse knows that the top DIII programs, ESPECIALLY Salisbury, are better than DI schools after the top 20-30 or so.

I'm really sure you're good enough for top DI programs to risk serious NCAA violations just to recruit you.

And:

So really, you're telling us that YOU have been receiving letters/emails/phonecalls from coaches on a regular basis before sophomore seasons, which is even more ludicrous.

Good Call. I am having regular sit downs with one of the school guidance counselors and she specializes in the recruiting process. There is no way !!!!!! or whatever is getting those calls. And I must say, there is no possible way to get into Virginia with an 80 average. Try SAT scores from 1900-2200.

[crusaderslax09]

You can so get into to Virginia with 80 avg.

I hope your joking. UVa is one of the hardest schools to get into in the country.

[helix28]

No im not joking.

[lax_dad]

When you guys are saying 80 percent ... is this american grades or canadian grades because i believe that marks are different... am i right??
80 IS AN 80.

[lax_dad]

No NO NO. I talked to a friend who coaches softball at Ball State. He said no coach in their right mind will risk losing their program by talking to a Freshy. All the NCAA needs to do is see something like this on a site like this and do a little investigating. Kaboom, bye bye program. recruiting Freshys is a serious offence.