iPhone

[fenwicklax89]

well, here it is. im guessing this is where all the touch screen technology was applied. it essentially is the ipod that all the rumors have been about, but with obviousl a phone and the usual PDA functions. interesting.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/

[Matt Larkin]

i saw that i think its overpriced at 600 and i dont like the touchscreen keypad....man i was really hoping for a new ipod though:sad:

[fenwicklax89]

they could easily make one. yeah that would be sweet.

when the gets released, i at least hope it will be available on a range of service providers. as of right now, it looks like cingular.

[chargerlacrosse]

im sooo getting that

[laxr24]

so this is only for cingular? that's no fun

[Paulvilax24]

Verizon gets nothing exciting...

[RIT37FO]

time to find someone to buy my tmobil dash


and buy apple stock

[fenwicklax89]

The phone that every single spoiled kid is going to have...

Its an awesome phone, dont get me wrong, but its going to be bought by so many people that dont actually need it...

its so true, and considering its a PDA, it makes it even worse.

[gigo567]

$499 with a 2 years contract!!!

No thanks to that. I have a iPod and I have a phone, and thats all I need.

I wonder what spoiled kid will get it first.

I doubt any kid will actually take full advantage of the phone, like cool it is a PDA that is very sleek. But for a Phone that costs as much as a PS3 thats just to much.

[Live4It]

$499 with a 2 years contract!!!

No thanks to that. I have a iPod and I have a phone, and thats all I need.

I wonder what spoiled kid will get it first.
Yea, not a chance of me buying one...ever.

[truste1]

that is sweet. I've been anticipating this, and I know what kind of phone I'll be getting when the time comes. (Plus by that time the price will probably have been lowered a bit and all the 1st gen bugs will be worked out)

[justlaxin484]

yeah hopefully verizon will get it too. maybe by the time i get to upgrade...hmm that would be sweet.

[laxr24]

what really bothers me is you need to stay with the same phone on a plan for two years, unless you want to pay outrageous amounts of money to simply just buy a phone without the plan for the company, say verizon. I know personally that I'd spend a lot more money buying new phones with better features than just buying a new phone every two years. I personally think the cell phone business needs to rethink this and allow people to upgrade phones whenever they want, dont you?

[Matt Larkin]

time to find someone to buy my tmobil dash


and buy apple stock
it already went up about 8% in like 3 hours haha

[justlaxin484]

I personally think the cell phone business needs to rethink this and allow people to upgrade phones whenever they want, dont you?


exactly. new phones are coming out all the time and people arent gunna want to get them if they have to wait say another year when a whole new group of phones will already be out. and i hate how certain phones only work with certain companies intially. it drives me crazy and it seems to me that it would only limit sales of the phone. what they should do is 1. make the phones cheaper to begin with 2. make phones universal and 3. make it so you can upgrade whenever....im thinking an email to the cell phone companies would be in order...

[laxr24]

I had my dad both call and send an email the management of verizon...I don't think they responded

[Matt Larkin]

well verizon/sprint are on a different type of network than att tmobile and cingular.
verizon and sprint you can upgrade whenever you just need to set it up online and buy the abut 300 phone...on cingular/tmobile you can just get the phone and pu your sim card in it...i think.verizon/sprint are cdma and the others are gsm.

[hockey&lax]

what really bothers me is you need to stay with the same phone on a plan for two years, unless you want to pay outrageous amounts of money to simply just buy a phone without the plan for the company, say verizon. I know personally that I'd spend a lot more money buying new phones with better features than just buying a new phone every two years. I personally think the cell phone business needs to rethink this and allow people to upgrade phones whenever they want, dont you?
ugghhh i had to wait forever to get my chocolate...down to around two months though, i agree with you. I think the iphone is ugly and will have huge screen scrathes and smudges..cool idea though.

[Dan]

You have to protect the screen just like you did on the video iPods. They have those invisible shield things that work beautifully.

WHY THIS IS WORTH THE MONEY:
Normal PDAs don't have video playback. Normal PDAs (excluding basically the Blackberry) don't have phone capabilities. Normal PDAs don't have quality music playback. Normal PDAs require a stylus. Have you guys checked out what this thing can do? You can do so many things while you're on the phone even, and it's intuitive instead of ludicrous. Like, my phone, it sucks. People paid $500 for the first 40 gig iPods like 3 years ago. All it did was play music. It had a black and white screen. Now, people are complaining about paying for the iPhone, with its numerous capabilities. It's like a mini laptop that you can use to talk on the phone. It's a much more capable and portable PSP. I mean, this is brilliant. Will it kill the iPod? No way. I wouldn't buy one of these, but for people that want it, it's a worthy investment. I like the use of the flash drive on this. I mean, I'd wait until they got like, the 16 gig flash drives just because I'd use mine for music. But I like my tiny little phone (Nokia 2600) that was only $50 without any sort of plan or contract, and my simple refurbished iPod, $170. I mean, those are steals anyway, but for my brother, or tech people like him, this is brilliant.

[RIT37FO]

i will be the first spoiled rich kid to have this

Who wants to buy some lacrosse equipment :D

[raykessler]

if it had more memory i would be so up for it..... unfortunately it dosn't.

btw, i called it. I said new ipod would be out at the January WWDC, and here it is.

[BeaverFondu]

For all of you saying that they need to remarket the cell phone industry:

It will A. Never happen and B. Is not plausible. For the phones to be universal they will all have to be on the same frequency and all that junk, which would destroy the old phones that used the old frequencies. Also, when you choose a service provider the three things you look at are phones avaible, service area, and price. Now, essentially, the prices and service areas are generally the same, give or take. But the phones is where companies really draw people in. People see all these great phones at great prices, don't worry about the contracts, sign away and end up paying for it the next couple years.

Alot of people want it to happen but it never will because of simple ecomonics. Also I think that the service provides pay a fee to use a certian phone., I'm not sure on that though so don't quote me.

[raykessler]

also it's only available for cingular, cingular gets horrible service in DC, verizon not only gets better reception (almost no dead zones) it also works in the metro.

[Irishlax22]

I guess if i had 600$ to spend on a phone/mp3 I would buy it. It would be pretty cool to have.

[enjoi]

You have to protect the screen just like you did on the video iPods. They have those invisible shield things that work beautifully.

WHY THIS IS WORTH THE MONEY:
Normal PDAs don't have video playback. Normal PDAs (excluding basically the Blackberry) don't have phone capabilities. Normal PDAs don't have quality music playback.

Yes they do. You my friend are behind on the times.
Normal PDAs require a stylus. Have you guys checked out what this thing can do? You can do so many things while you're on the phone even, and it's intuitive instead of ludicrous. Like, my phone, it sucks. People paid $500 for the first 40 gig iPods like 3 years ago.

yeah. :(
All it did was play music. It had a black and white screen. Now, people are complaining about paying for the iPhone, with its numerous capabilities. It's like a mini laptop that you can use to talk on the phone. It's a much more capable and portable PSP. I mean, this is brilliant. Will it kill the iPod? No way. I wouldn't buy one of these, but for people that want it, it's a worthy investment. I like the use of the flash drive on this. I mean, I'd wait until they got like, the 16 gig flash drives just because I'd use mine for music. But I like my tiny little phone (Nokia 2600) that was only $50 without any sort of plan or contract, and my simple refurbished iPod, $170. I mean, those are steals anyway, but for my brother, or tech people like him, this is brilliant.
Basically this is perfect for all those people who would want Nanos. Because lets face it, they would want this. Me, I need my space.

[scruffy221]

I would use this if it had Verizon and if i had the $ which is always a huge factor.

[DutchyLacrosse]

I got a ipod and i've got a phone and soon to have a pretty decent PDA so it's probably not something of my interest.
The phone is nice though, don't get me wrong.

[raykessler]

and i just realised that the phone bill for it will probably be rediculous. Youl need to pay for minutes and data, i wouldn't be suprised to see a plan with 400 minutes data and text messaging to run around $80-$100 bucks a month

[CSlax06]

I dont even have a cell. And I dont plan on spending close to a PS3 for one either. Very cool yet over priced.

[HdGLaxWarrior]

I dont even have a cell. And I dont plan on spending close to a PS3 for one either. Very cool yet over priced.

thats not overpriced. think about a nano, a cell phone, and a computer all in one.

[Gaib]

I just talked to my brother, who is a global supply manager for apple. This phone has been his project for the past year and he has not whispered a word about it until today. The phone is only available on cingular because, in order for all of the features to be enabled, the network needs to activate certain things (I say things because I'm not actually sure what they are). Anyway, for the iPhone designers etc., it is far easier to work with one network to make the phone compatible than work with all of them at once. This is not to say the phone won't be available on other networks later.

[WestSideLa X eR]

It may be worth the money, but will people buy it for that much....

The thing with this market is that it basically eliminated the tween/younger kids market base because no parent is going to let their 8th grader get a $600 phone (apart from the rich spoiled kids).

Ipod mini's were Apple's best selling ipod for a long time for that reason: it's small, and its affordable for a lot of people. Upgrading to a normal ipod for 50 more bucks is much better, but the mini still outsold the normal ipods by a considerable margin.

$600? Sure, may be worth it. But unless the price goes down, I don't think it will be as popular as the mini's or nano's have been.

[fenwicklax89]

the goal if PDA designers nowadays is to make the laptop obsolete. If you think about it, for a business traveler or someone of the like its great.

[laxr24]

Remember when the razr phone first came out? it was only available from cingular and carried a 500 dollar price tag. now you can buy one get one free from almost every network. eventually this phone will come down in price and be available with other networks its just a matter of time. Also, the phone is only pre-order now. it doesn't actually come out until june...

[fenwicklax89]

http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/

you can watch the whole introduction video. once you see the thing operate, its about 10x more impressive. the control inerface is probably the most user friendly piece of technology ever invented. its crazy some of thes tuff it can do

[WestSideLa X eR]

so basically the helio, the sidekick and a fair number of PDA/phone types are going to bite the dust big time. Ouch.

[manup5183]

if i find a way to afford it...then here is my next phone! I mean this thing looks completely amazing. all those features and 8gb!

[raykessler]

I just talked to my brother, who is a global supply manager for apple. This phone has been his project for the past year and he has not whispered a word about it until today. The phone is only available on cingular because, in order for all of the features to be enabled, the network needs to activate certain things (I say things because I'm not actually sure what they are). Anyway, for the iPhone designers etc., it is far easier to work with one network to make the phone compatible than work with all of them at once. This is not to say the phone won't be available on other networks later.

ait so lets get some inside info, should we expect an iphone for other networks (particularly verizon), and when can we expect a big boost in storage size 'cause that's my biggest complaint.

[gigo567]

Guys, I am doubting it will come the Verizon. Mainly because they have there own music service and Apple most likely would rather have people buy music from iTunes, not Verizon.

[hockey&lax]

i change my mind after seeing all the video...wow thats awesome. if it was cheaper and for verizon i would have to consider it.

[Gaib]

ait so lets get some inside info, should we expect an iphone for other networks (particularly verizon)

Did you both to finish reading my post? Not initially, but potentially in the future. As for increasing the size, it will likely happen eventually, but most likely not in the near future - give the phone time to give its proverbial feet wet before they start improving on it.

An interesting side note: IF ipods were to continue at the current rate of decreasing the physical size of hard/flash drive while maintaining the storage capacity, in 11 years the ipod will be invisible. Obviously, that's not going to happen (nor would it be useful), but it's still pretty cool.

[raykessler]

ok here's the real question. When does apple release the same product but minus the phone and plus a lot more storage. Im thinking that's going to be the next ipod, because they know that the market for this is probably going to be pretty small, people arn't going to get out of their cell phone contracts just to get a really cool phone. Im gonna say that in July (next WWDC) apple releases the next true ipod which will, as i said before, be essentialy the same with wi-fi and such, but with no phone, and using that extra space for a butt load of extra storage.

[centenniallax81]

ok here's the real question. When does apple release the same product but minus the phone and plus a lot more storage. Im thinking that's going to be the next ipod, because they know that the market for this is probably going to be pretty small, people arn't going to get out of their cell phone contracts just to get a really cool phone. Im gonna say that in July (next WWDC) apple releases the next true ipod which will, as i said before, be essentialy the same with wi-fi and such, but with no phone, and using that extra space for a butt load of extra storage.


yea i really like the whole concept, but it is deffinatly lacking in the storage department. i think the one they were using for the demo was hook to an external hard drice though, i mean did you see all the artists, the albums, the songs, and the video, plus all your contacts and things of that sort. i mean that alone should be more than 4gb, but who knows maybe they condensed everything.

but i think i will just wait for the next new iPod though cuz i dont wanna switch carriers just to get the phone.

[Gaib]

i mean that alone should be more than 4gb, but who knows maybe they condensed everything.

They also have an 8gb version of the iphone coming out

[fenwicklax89]

the one in the pictures and the demo was an 8g. when it was plugged in and showed the itunes screen it displayed 8g of memory

[smooth87]

I wonder how much the options of Google and Yahoo are going to be. Because if its $600 and Verizon gets it, I might have to pick one up.

[O'Neill]

I'd rather just have a widescreen, wi-fi enabled, touchscreen ipod instead of having to have a phone that size.

[gigo567]

So I guess my Dad is getting one right when it comes out, so I will take photos of it when he gets it(which will be in June)

[CSlax06]

thats not overpriced. think about a nano, a cell phone, and a computer all in one.

So you saying I can type essays on MSword? And edit and remix songs while photoshopping?

[Matt Larkin]

I'd rather just have a widescreen, wi-fi enabled, touchscreen ipod instead of having to have a phone that size.
right on. and they could cut it about 200 bones.

[raykessler]

im going back to what i said before, the real killer for this phone is going to be the price of the plan. Unless of course apple puts together a sweet deal with cingular. If you look at it, the least expensive plan for talking is 450 minutes which is like $45 a month, then you add on the least amount of texting which is 200 texts a month for $5, then you put on the (this is the blackberry version) unlimited email/ internet is another $45 a month, then you get gps service thts another $15 a month. So far that comes to $110 your paying a month. So unless apple works out something were you don't have to pay much or anything for the data, and the google maps GPS stuff is free, that could be the killer.

[laxpigmi2005]

Just read something about a company called Cisco, they are saying that they have had the name "iphone" copyrighted since 1999 and that apple knew but went ahead and used the "iphone" name anyway.

so now they are taking them to court.

could be a good story.

[raykessler]

Just read something about a company called Cisco, they are saying that they have had the name "iphone" copyrighted since 1999 and that apple knew but went ahead and used the "iphone" name anyway.

so now they are taking them to court.

could be a good story.


Cisco is one of the largest technology companies in the world, last year it was 100 on the fortune 500 list.

On topic, i had heard that Cisco was going to let it slide, but i could be wrong.

[livin4lax09]

i'm waiting for a verizon compatible, hopefully one with interchangable memory...like that will ever happen. I personally think it's pretty sick though.

[SpecialFriend5]

cool vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgW7or1TuFk)

check it out they show some of the features of the phone

[SDPirate]

i've never had an ipod and they are coming out just in time for graduation....ahhh a boy can dream.

[WanderingLaxer]

The day iPhone came out was also the same day Apple was sued by Cisco for using the name iPhone. That made me laugh.

[lacrosse_newbie]

me and my friend danny were talking about the rumors and stuff 2nd period. And by 7th period, it came out, SAME DAY! it was AWESOME!! I hope it also expands service options to verizon and nextel.

[MidwestLAx101]

that phone is sweet its only 500

[NuKoN]

The phone that every single spoiled kid is going to have...

Its an awesome phone, dont get me wrong, but its going to be bought by so many people that dont actually need it...

It's so funny you say that, because the most spoiled kid in my school said he's getting it soon and spent every second he could telling everyone about all the features it had that he does NOT need.

"Matt, when are you going to check stocks on your phone? The weather? Google maps?"

" I don't know.. I just want it"

[THEWALL16]

does anyone know the retail price on it because i was thinking about using my 30 day return policy and getting my upgrade back but if its coming out this summer i don't know