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LaxRef
01-09-2007, 02:14 PM
Under what circumstances would you "call" a high school game and send everyone home?

faceofflax15
01-09-2007, 02:26 PM
Last season, we got a game called due to a 6 man from each team fight half way through the last quater..

C.Montgomery
01-09-2007, 02:30 PM
I hit submit too early, so add one to officials were threatened. In most cases (obviously excluding if I have been threatened by a coach) I would prefer to talk with both coaches and possibly an AD if one is on site before leaving. Also, especially in the situation of someone threatening me, I would leave, and would not be able to care less if the teams wanted to stick around.

Sour
01-09-2007, 02:52 PM
Really poor weather....lightning especially, but dont forget fog and heavy rain can set in very quickly and really hammer the visibility.

Longpole5435
01-09-2007, 03:56 PM
Only for weather, unless we are talking a fight as in a bench clearing brawl.

livinglegend
01-09-2007, 11:15 PM
none... why wouold you stop a game for rain

Woodenstick
01-10-2007, 01:00 PM
To me the issue is safety. When you feel that the safety of anyone is in jeopardy it is time to call the game. All of the above reasons are cases where safety is in jeopardy. No game is worth someone getting hurt for reasons other than normal play.

LaxRef
01-10-2007, 01:05 PM
To me the issue is safety. When you feel that the safety of anyone is in jeopardy it is time to call the game. All of the above reasons are cases where safety is in jeopardy. No game is worth someone getting hurt for reasons other than normal play.

I couldn't agree with you more.

CardinalPuff
01-10-2007, 01:40 PM
the only time i've ever come close to stopping a game was after a bench-clearing fight broke out.....it was mid 4th quarter of a running clock situation....i stood back, wrote down numbers of players ejected .... my partner and i were talking about terminating the game when i realized the game clock had reached 00:00....

problem solved.....

inblack
01-10-2007, 03:23 PM
the only time i've ever come close to stopping a game was after a bench-clearing fight broke out.....it was mid 4th quarter of a running clock situation....i stood back, wrote down numbers of players ejected .... my partner and i were talking about terminating the game when i realized the game clock had reached 00:00....

problem solved.....


I've done that a few times.
And only once have i ever stopped a game (for reasons other that lightning or darkness) because i ran out of players - too many penalties, not enough players left to finish the game.
That has always worked -- call enough penalties that there is no one left.

LaxRef
01-10-2007, 03:29 PM
I've done that a few times.
And only once have i ever stopped a game (for reasons other that lightning or darkness) because i ran out of players - too many penalties, not enough players left to finish the game.
That has always worked -- call enough penalties that there is no one left.

In men's field lacrosse, you need 10 players to start but can keep playing with fewer. Thus, you'd have to boot a whole team to end the game.

Of course, if all of the coaches get kicked out, then the game is over. :idea:

3rdPersonPlural
01-10-2007, 03:35 PM
To me the issue is safety. When you feel that the safety of anyone is in jeopardy it is time to call the game. All of the above reasons are cases where safety is in jeopardy. No game is worth someone getting hurt for reasons other than normal play.

I concur. You throw warnings, throw flags, throw players, throw the game into suspension, and then you throw in the towel. However, if continuing to play through that progression will put anybody on the field or on the sidelines or stands in danger, go to step 5 and expect a long clarifying conversation with your assigner.

inblack
01-10-2007, 04:28 PM
In men's field lacrosse, you need 10 players to start but can keep playing with fewer. Thus, you'd have to boot a whole team to end the game.

Of course, if all of the coaches get kicked out, then the game is over. :idea:

SORRY should have been a little more specific, was blending box and field in that statement.
Field i have only ever had to call off a game for lightning/rain
and for darkness (the 05 Men's Ontario championship game in fact - went past city curfew and they shut the light off on us)

Box - I have run out of players. Must have a minimum of 3 runners to continue.

Will have to remember the coaches condition (or is it the couches condition?)

Rileylax
01-10-2007, 08:15 PM
It scares me that almost 20% of the responses said "the show must go on." That's not what the sport is about. We have a rules book that gives us our standard. It is not up to an official to enforce only those rule(s) he chooses. Saftey is a major issue...and when all else fails you'd better be concerned about your liability should you fail to do your job.

inblack
01-10-2007, 09:25 PM
I will never argue on the safety factor. Never.
A Major concern in the box game is the floor.
Many of us have not even started games because of damp conditions, or 'ended' them (here a ended game due to arena conditions is replayed, so we actually don't 'call it off') because of a slippery floor. Coaches often plead to continue, (they know the expense of rescheduling the game) and the players are on the referees side. I don't want to leave with a busted ankle any more than a player does!
No different than lightning. I enjoy life!

I answered 'other' in the poll.

call a game because of too many fights ... no, I'll just continue to penalize based on the rule book, and keep tossing out players. the teams and coaches will come around. If I run out of players, well maybe you should have controlled your team coach.

Line brawl, everyone on the floor/field to the rooms thank you. Next line!
One/two players throwing crazy slashes, in box I have 'attempt to injure' and Match penalties, in field USC and ejections. Bye Bye.

Call the game, you control it. Give the players rope and discretion when they behave, take it away when they don't.
Same thing goes for the Coaches and the Fans.

and when all else fails you'd better be concerned about your liability should you fail to do your job

For me, the key, is to call penalties when ever they are warranted. I can't stop him from slashing, but I can punish him. And I can punish harshly if I have to.
I punished him based on my training and the rules of the sport. I did my job.

3rdPersonPlural
01-10-2007, 10:45 PM
For me, the key, is to call penalties when ever they are warranted. I can't stop him from slashing, but I can punish him. And I can punish harshly if I have to.
I punished him based on my training and the rules of the sport. I did my job.

We disagree. In another forum I dissented against a fan who watched a game between two prominent California teams. The losing team's middie set a pick and lined up the winning team's defender with a cross check to the neck that the whole stadium saw. The defender ducked the check and ended up entangling the ball handler's legs, and got called for tripping.

The ref was excoriated, but the fact of the matter was that the defender balled up before the ball handler and tripped him. Looming crosscheck to the neck notwithstanding.

After that exchange, I'm committed to whistling blatant fouls as they set up and calling an USC for threatening to act like a jerk on the fellow winding up to lay a dangerous check on an opponent.

I've played enough and by now officiated enough to know when a lethal blow is being set up. I consider that act of preparation to be USC, I'm not waiting for the blow to land to do the Gomer Pyle and say "Yup, that was a doozie!". I'm blowing my whistle and sitting the guy for a good piece.

Yeah, I know that there is nothing but USC to call on a guy lining up an illegal hit, but my coaches know what's up and understand that safety is my focus. I doubt that I'll get much push back.

inblack
01-11-2007, 06:33 AM
Agreed; that is a little different though.
I was speaking of a more common during game play regular slash.

If it's that blatant ...
it is more of an attempt to injure situation

in Box we can call a slash penalty even if you DO NOT make contact. Similar thing.
In field, ... Thrusting the crosse at the face, no contact made, but it is still foul.
I have always considered those types of situations 'game control' don't call something on that and you WILL have a problem.

Box game, ... losing team sends the defense out late in the 3rd with old school wooden sticks (have not seen a woodie all game, now i have 4 of em on the floor).... I know whats about to happen, don't think for a second I'm not paying attention.

BTW who is 'We'?