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EHSLAX12
01-18-2007, 11:20 PM
well, the search bar is pmsing, so ill just start up a thread.

since i didnt wrestle this year due to injury, i didnt learn the proper way to cut weight. what are/is the fastest or easiest way to lose a lot from now to about march 1st. im lookin to cut around 35-40. i workout regularly, and as a goalie, i normaly just do more like chest and arms than i do cardio, so i guess i gotta start doin that.

any way to do it within like 40 days?

MaKiMaKi13
01-18-2007, 11:24 PM
cut your calories from the 250-500 range and yes cardio as early as you can so that you burn up your fat

Big-Red
01-18-2007, 11:26 PM
drink lots of water, eat really healthy, and continue to do cardio and other exercises. Even occasional lifting and you will lose the fat weight quickly.

MidwestLAx101
01-18-2007, 11:26 PM
cardio every day stop eating anythign with white flour in it only eat 3 meals a day no charbathadyrets sp?

EHSLAX12
01-18-2007, 11:38 PM
carbohydrates, and my normal schedule is lifting 4 days aweek. i consume over a gallon a day of water. ill increase that a bit, and also cut the eating. i stay away from white flour, but if i ever have it, i try to limit it. like a wrap and maybe a piece of toast is as close as a go to white flour.

eaweb824
01-18-2007, 11:40 PM
I AM A WRESTLER! I KNOW HOW TO REALLY CUT WEIGHT! First, cut out all processed and refined sugars( candy, soda, the obvious things). Second, split all of your meals in twade (that means in two). This means that you're still taking in the same amount of food, just split up into six meals. Third, never, I mean NEVER eat before you go to bed. the calories will go strait to fat. Then after all of that, I suggest that you exercise, blah blah blah (there are plenty of effective workouts on this forum). Have fun!

EHSLAX12
01-18-2007, 11:42 PM
im already a step ahead of you with teh sugars thing...bottles of water for me now...thanks a lot for helpin me out.

keep the idea a'comin

eaweb824
01-18-2007, 11:53 PM
hey! woahh! stop the train! I forgot one of the most important "laws". ALWAYS eat breakfast. not when you have time, but always! It will jump start your metabolism.

Martini Laxer25
01-19-2007, 12:09 AM
drink lots of water, eat really healthy, and continue to do cardio and other exercises. Even occasional lifting and you will lose the fat weight quickly.
do all of the above but if your gym has a sauna/steam room USE IT it will help

Meade Lacrosse
01-19-2007, 11:12 AM
do all of the above but if your gym has a sauna/steam room USE IT it will help

This might sound stupid, but do I just sit there? Like, for how long? and should I just go in with a towel, because i don't have one of those aluminum-foil looking things.

I AM A WRESTLER! I KNOW HOW TO REALLY CUT WEIGHT! First, cut out all processed and refined sugars( candy, soda, the obvious things). Second, split all of your meals in twade (that means in two). This means that you're still taking in the same amount of food, just split up into six meals. Third, never, I mean NEVER eat before you go to bed. the calories will go strait to fat. Then after all of that, I suggest that you exercise, blah blah blah (there are plenty of effective workouts on this forum). Have fun!


I get dinner at my house around 9. I know its late, its just a cultural thing. Is there anyway i can get around teh whole eating-before-bed thing? I can workout before going to bed, so if that works....

D3STRO
01-19-2007, 11:26 AM
Why are you trying to lose 30-40 pounds?? Are you that much overweight?

UNCdefense
01-19-2007, 12:23 PM
Ya you just sit there for I think like 5-10 minutes (Ya & most people just where towels but I've gone w/ bathing suit before)....It's good for your body but I'm pretty sure it only makes you lose water weight. Actually I'm almost positive that's all it does. If you want just kinda messing aorund do some push-ups or crunches while you're in there. It's ridiculous how much you'll sweat. You'll feel like the big guys at the gym

the wister
01-19-2007, 02:05 PM
Starvation is the proven and undisputed fastest and most effect way to lose weight. Of course, unless you're a wrestler, people who care about you won't let you do it. But if you're in the middle of the season, they won't think twice. Of course, there is the slight drawback that it's not really healthy for you.

I had a friend in highschool who played football and dropped from 235 to 180. He told me how he did it. One, you need to chew a lot of gum because you'll be hungry a lot and it will keep your mind off it. Two, you basically just need to eat less. He had a small breakfast, a bagel with cream cheese at 10:00 or so and then a small lunch (not much more than the bagel he ate earlier) and then dinner later on. Basically starvation in a more humane way. Three, drink a lot of water
This might sound stupid, but do I just sit there? Like, for how long? and should I just go in with a towel, because i don't have one of those aluminum-foil looking things.
???!?!! Boy, what the hell are you talking about????

My dad told me he stayed really thin in college by doing something like that. He would go into the sauna for 15 minutes. After he worked up a good sweat he'd take a cold shower for a couple minutes to get the sweat off and cool back down. Then, he'd get back in the sauna and would start sweating again because he had just cooled down. He said he'd do this for about an hour or two and he was a stick all throughout college.

Meade Lacrosse
01-19-2007, 02:59 PM
the wister- I meant these http://www.boxingdepot.com/ae-ss-12.html

See how they kinda resemble aluminum foil? Turns out they're called Sauna Suits.

EHSLAX12
01-19-2007, 04:10 PM
hey! woahh! stop the train! I forgot one of the most important "laws". ALWAYS eat breakfast. not when you have time, but always! It will jump start your metabolism.

now, thats one of the things that i do have an issue with. i get up later and walk to school, so as much as i can get for breakfast is like a clementine or an apple. then when i get to school, i get a milk, thats about it....guess i gotta work on that. i wish my teacher for first period was like my teacher in 5th period <---he lets me come and go as i please

Why are you trying to lose 30-40 pounds?? Are you that much overweight?

not entirely...but im lookin more for the 30 range, because im more serious into lifting now than i was before. i want to try and kill off a lot of the body fat with lean muscle for when i train, then build muscle.



and wister...i think im gonna have to go with your plan. i apparently had a concussion a few weeks ago, and have been getting chronic headaches and stuff like that from post concussion syndrome....i had a CAT scan this morning. so i cant be active for a long time. starvation is the way to go for now...and can you ask your friend, how much time it took him to lose like 50 pounds?

D3STRO
01-19-2007, 04:29 PM
Alright, now that I know what you are trying to do.

All the methods people are mentioning to lose weight is not what you are going to want to do.

You are going to want to consume 1 gram of protein per 2 lbs of body fat per day, at least. I am currently doing the same thing that you are trying to do and this is how I am doing it. Obviously the advice about refined sugars and white bread/fats/etc is all good but forget the sweat suits and sweating it out. These methods are good for cutting weight for a weight but you gain that weight right back as soon as you drink water.

I eat 3 actual meals a day trying to get about 20-25 grams of protein and some complex carbs with each meal while limiting my fat intake. I supplement that with 2-3 protein shakes a day which keeps your body in "muscle building/fat burning mode" all day long. Try and get a protein powder which has several kinds of protein such as whey, egg, and soy protein as these different proteins break down in different ways and each serve a purpose.

Continue to work out because the more lean muscle you put on, the more fat your body will burn on a continual basis.

If you have the money you may want to look into pruchasing some "good fats" ... these fats most commonly found in Flax seed oil, tuna fish, etc. actually help your body burn fat because these fats are burned quickly by the body for energy. As the body realizes the energy it gets from burning these "good fats" it begins to burn more of the stored fat on your body.

Let me know if you have any questions, but starving yourself or sweating it out is only going to leave you weak and your body needs fuel to workout and build muscle.

chsattack22
01-19-2007, 04:45 PM
one word...liposuction

the wister
01-19-2007, 06:16 PM
It took him about 3-4 months. He was lifting a lot because he didn't want to lose strength, but, naturally he did.

About the sauna bit, make sure you are drinking water if you are going to go at it for 1-2hrs. Just naturally raising your body temp with burn calories, and you'll still lose weight even if you're well hydrated. Sweating isn't only water weight.

Meade, I have never seen one of those before. Do people where you're from actually wear those kinds of suits???


*EHS I just reread your post. If you want to do it in 40 days, there is no healthy way to do it. I am not recommending it, whatever you do with your body is your business, I'm just giving truthful insight, though it is really not the best way to go about it. You will have to starve yourself, basically like 1.5meals a day. If you've seen 'Perfect Body' which is probably too old for anyone on this board, that's going to be your life. My conscience is actually hurting me right now. YOU SHOULD NOT FOLLOW THIS ADVICE. Ok, now that I've done my part, let me tell you that I'm very content with my body and I have never let other people tell me what to do with it. Good luck.

EHSLAX12
01-19-2007, 10:23 PM
ok, well for now...i gotta do the starving thing. and one of my friends who did wrestle (pantherlax on here) is givin me some advice. everyone views it as its important that i play. as of right now, ive probably had one of the crappiest starts to my training. surgery in end of december on my knee...then when i was cleared to lift adn train again, i got a concussion. so now im out with PCS. just no good for now. so i basically have to starve a lot...i mean, i can survive on mostly water and some small amounts of food. i have done that many times.

i mean, for what i can do, ill try all i can. its hard trying to cut now when i cant go do cardio for over a month, or lift for a few weeks. my life is just no good right now...

i know 40 days is a tough period, but if i get to a point where i can get into good enough shape to have better endurance than i do now, ill be set. i mean, goalies dont run much...my playing style doesnt really allow for much. but i have to run for practice...i want to play at a higher level and thats one of the ways i have to do it. i know i have the skills, but now i need the edges thatll put me there.

thanks for the help...ill do what i can for now...ill let you guys know what happens along the way.

Meade Lacrosse
01-20-2007, 09:31 AM
Meade, I have never seen one of those before. Do people where you're from actually wear those kinds of suits???


Well, I go to Gold's Gym, and they have a sauna. I've only seen this old white man use one. It must have helped him i guess, because theoretically, perhaps the aluminum foil type thing would cause him to be even hotter.

EHSLAX12
01-20-2007, 11:06 AM
it takes the heat from teh outside, and it generates that heat to your body in a much better circulation than just sitting in the sauna. it makes sure that the steam flows around your entire body, so it distributes it and therefore gets you more from teh sauna.

bpercival
01-20-2007, 11:29 AM
running on the beach burns weight and gets your legs in great shape and all around just joggining for miles is better then straight sprints.

EHSLAX12
01-20-2007, 07:53 PM
...i mean, for what i can do, ill try all i can. its hard trying to cut now when i cant go do cardio for over a month, or lift for a few weeks. my life is just no good right now...

like i said, i cant do much, so running is out of the question.

CSlax06
01-20-2007, 09:05 PM
I think im going to do this with EHS...I need to lose weight fast also. What would you people reccomend for breakfast thats small, healthy and gets the job done.

EHSLAX12
01-21-2007, 12:18 AM
a couple of clementines or an orange, and a glass of milk and maybe a bit of oatmeal, small thing of oatmeal

that should work well. delivers some vitamins and minerals, and some other goodies thatll be good on the day.

edit -

for the starvation thing...

all ive had today is a 3/4 cup of cheerios and like 2 cups of milk...and a piece of whole wheat toast with some peanut butter on it...and to supplement it with the other stuff im missing, i took some fiber pills and a vitamin supplement. and of course, about 5 16 oz bottles of water...so thats about 10 cups.

pmr149
01-21-2007, 12:30 AM
cream of wheat everymorning

Gannonthecannon
01-21-2007, 02:44 PM
haha id suggest having jaw surgery :rofl:

i went from a strong 150 to 134 in 16 days :thumbsdow



jk... just eat light and often instead of a few heavy meals

EHSLAX12
01-21-2007, 04:12 PM
all i have is like a bowl of cereal, and a bit of fruit and some vegetables through the day...basically nothing.

edit - 2100th post!!!!!!!!!!

Irishlax22
01-21-2007, 06:15 PM
Theres some vest that wrestlers wear. They wear it on the bike and it makes them sweat like crazy. Does anybody know the name of this? They usually use it to shed some pounds for a weigh in. (im not sure if its really healthy)

D Bay
01-21-2007, 06:17 PM
Chew gum to keep your mind off hunger. To help lose water weight, spit often. Hardly eat, DON'T DRINK WATER! go in a steam room and work out in a hot room wearing sweats often. You will be surprised how quickly you will drop weight, although I don't know your bf %, but 40 lbs is a lot, not that it isn't doable, but be careful.

EHSLAX12
01-21-2007, 06:52 PM
40 is a lot, im gonna aim more for the 35 route, but the not eating or eating very little is workin, ive dropped about .6 pounds in the last day...and im barely workin out...and ive discovered that being on tlf and my comp constantly and not thinking about anything else but how i post is actually workin a bit for keepin my mind off hunger. im actually doin well so far, even with the minimal amount of working out i can do, and i mean minimal. i think ill be well off for like a month of doing this.

MaKiMaKi13
01-21-2007, 08:44 PM
Theres some vest that wrestlers wear. They wear it on the bike and it makes them sweat like crazy. Does anybody know the name of this? They usually use it to shed some pounds for a weigh in. (im not sure if its really healthy)

you could just wear a buttload of sweats it does the same thing but you still gotta be careful

spyopticgoggles
01-21-2007, 09:02 PM
dont cut carbohydrates they give ur body glucose, which ur cells use to do cellular respiration. if u cut out carbs, then u wont have the energy to work out

preplax29
01-21-2007, 09:02 PM
dude there is not a way to cut 40 lbs safely in 40 days. geez cut ur leg off if u want to be 40 lbs less.

EHSLAX12
01-21-2007, 09:05 PM
dont worry, ive managed...and if i wanted to cut a leg, it would be like 60 or so pounds....all muscle...thats why i dont train my legs anymore

Chalupa1
01-21-2007, 09:16 PM
If you really want to get crazy about cutting weight, take Animal Cuts. It's a fat burner that utilizes thermogenesis, diuretics, and thyroid stimulants,whereas most fat burners use ephedrine and caffiene. You'll gain muscle mass, though. Be cautioned of its use though, its still a supplement that is not FDA approve.

Also note with weight loss...
(as a wrestler myself) your weigh fluxs between 1 to 5 pounds daily with exercise. You lose more than .6 pounds in a day just by chewing gum all day.

preplax29
01-21-2007, 10:01 PM
wrestlers are the least educated in weight loss. not saying every single one is, but come on, spitting in a cup doesnt do anything.

no pills, they are unhealthy. dude. realized it. theres no way to loose that much weight that fast. if you were smart, you would have lost it over time.

the wister
01-21-2007, 10:37 PM
wrestlers are the least educated in weight loss. not saying every single one is, but come on, spitting in a cup doesnt do anything.
ha. Wait, let me say that again. HA! in fact, hahahahHAAAAHA! Haha. ha. Ok, I think I'm done.....hahah....yeah, I'm done now. sorry, couldn't help it

Now, there are some wrestlers that swear by some crazy stuff, like standing on your head for 20 minutes, but spitting in a cup does work. I lost 1lb in 1hr 15min with this method. The trick is to chew gum so your mouth never dries up; chewing gum stimulates your salivary glands to produce saliva. Think about it, how could it not work?

Food suggestions - 1 can of sweet corn. Don't chew it just swallow, it'll pass right through you and take plenty with it. Also, oatmeal is a good morning meal. Celery takes more calories to digest than it provides you with, so there's something to try as well.

EHSLAX12
01-22-2007, 12:06 AM
ive tried the broccoli and celery mix...i think im gonna go with the celery because it takes more time to chew celery down than some steamed broccoli. and im gonna get some oatmeal if i can tomorrow, if now, i eat dry cereal, like cheerios or somethin. im gonna try to find something else to do for during the day, because most of my teachers have issues with gum chewing...and spitting. ive been able to manage, but eventually my body will adjust to the lack of food and i wont feel the hunger pains anymore. i just cant wait till 3 weeks, so i can start workin out again for the last 2 weeks before practice starts.

pantherLax
01-22-2007, 05:10 PM
If you steam your broccoli it tastes better and easier to eat but it loses some of its vitamins, and it takes longer to chew so that would be good for your case

EHSLAX12
01-22-2007, 05:17 PM
If you steam your broccoli it tastes better and easier to eat but it loses some of its vitamins, and it takes longer to chew so that would be good for your case

thanks for the insight junki.....

EHSLAX12
01-22-2007, 06:48 PM
just 1 thing you forgot about before you posted that....i cant workout for about 3 weeks, i am barely allowed to lift a finger. my school has me on like a lockdown as to even stepping foot into the gym...and my mom has my lax stuff except for my stick somewhere, because she knows in an instant i would grab my gear and go play.

CSlax06
01-22-2007, 07:15 PM
Why? Are you like hurt or soemthing?

MACDADDY
01-22-2007, 07:31 PM
my gym coash once said that by eating a small amout, but alot of them (roughly 6 meals) and excercising, you burn more fat than eating 3 big meals. not sure how fast that will take.

edit:
protien
fat
carbohydrates
they are all sources of energy
carbs and protien contain 4 units of energy, and fat contains 9.
you cant live without calories though
thats why the guy that invented the atkens(sp?) diet died from some heart failure, after using his diet plan of cutting all fat and calories.

wb313
01-22-2007, 08:03 PM
if at all possible, which u probably can't do, but wake up early and go for a short run and then eat. exercise gets ur metabolism going. so if u eat after u rworkout it gets digested and doesnt sit there faster. and get a second workout in a slight sweat. nothing heavy something light. another short run. pushups crunch's whatever. and whatever u do dont starve in anyway. also, get a body fat analysis. u want to lose weight safely. dont be wreckless. if u can be active then eat healthy take vitamins. and some fats ARE good for u, not all are bad. Carbs ARE Good if u exercise. but in all honesty, shoot for the 15-20 pond range its safer. and u will only know what u cna lose if u get a body fat analysis. u gotta be safe and smart with weight loss.

EHSLAX12
01-22-2007, 08:12 PM
Why? Are you like hurt or soemthing?

i had a concussion, now theres this whole hype that i have to let it heal completely or else i cant play again.....and im gonna listen because lax is basically my life or one of my best chances to get into a good college.

the wister
01-22-2007, 09:05 PM
you cant live without calories though
thats why the guy that invented the atkens(sp?) diet died from some heart failure, after using his diet plan of cutting all fat and calories.
Protein and fat have calories, so that's obviously not the reason he died. And he didn't even die of heart failure, he died because he slipped and hit his head on some dumb ice. What a way to go, eh? Then, after he died, they did an autopsy (without prior consent, which is relevant because they didn't need to, it was obvious what the cause of death was) and found that his blood vessels had plaque deposits. WOW, amazing find, I mean, what do you expect from someone who eats that much cholesterol. That may even just be a myth that his critics made up, come to think of it......

And that's not the atkin's diet at all. You can't cut calories, if you did, the only thing you would be allowed to eat would be water. Even dirt has calories, though we can't really process it. The Atkin's diet is about cutting all CARBS and sticking to proteins and fats, since your body utilizes carbs first for energy. Then, since you are deprived of carbs, you body will begin to burn your fat stores to use energy. That is the assumption.

MACDADDY
01-22-2007, 11:53 PM
just wat my health teacher said.

centenniallax81
01-22-2007, 11:54 PM
fast way to cut weight is to die, i gaurentee that it will work. the only side effect would be that you die, and are no longer living.

EHSLAX12
01-23-2007, 12:06 AM
fast way to cut weight is to die, i gaurentee that it will work. the only side effect would be that you die, and are no longer living.

that couldve been the worst and probably least sensible thing someone has ever said on here. im actually gonna take a second to answer this, because i want to procrastinate more from my global essay.

if you die, your body isnt technically losing any weight. your just losing contact with your brain. so nothin is physically happening to your body that would cause weight loss, you are still in the same condition even after death.

the wister
01-23-2007, 12:33 AM
just wat my health teacher said.
Well, now you've learned, just like everyone has to learn at some time, that your teachers aren't always right. Didn't mean to be hard on you, it's not your fault that your teacher is ignorant to facts. And she/he obviously had an agenda against the Atkins diet, which is why she/he made up that story. Maybe they were like my teacher and are pretty overweight and get mad that diets don't work for them.

You should point this out to them next time in class and make them feel stupid. Anyone who thinks that protein doesn't have calories, or that you can eliminate calories from a diet, should not be allowed to speak in front of impressionable minors.

lax4life6
01-25-2007, 07:54 PM
Sauna isn't gonna help you lose weight. When you go in the Sauna youre just losing water weight. So it's gonna make you really thirsty then when you drink again you'll put the weight back on

EHSLAX12
01-26-2007, 06:19 PM
it does, actually. it removes the excess water in your body, as well as removes some of the water in your fat, so it condenses the fat to a smaller form...but that takes a long time to really do. it also removes excess salts and impurities on an exo level of your skin, so breathability is easier.

EHSLAX12
01-30-2007, 12:44 AM
ok, well heres a bump sort of thing for this thread (please dont gve me a warning). ive been doing this for at least a week, have lost a few on starvation. its slowly working. eating less, but taking in fiber is a key, because the fiber is essential in digestion and creating wastes. so i started taking fiber pills and its helpin a bit. ill definetely at least hit 20 pounds by march, which would be great. and i get to start working out next week, so ill be in a higher spirit.

so my discovery and reason for bumping this is because starvation does actally work. 4 things very key. basically binge drinking of water, small amounts of food, spaced out, and really portioned, ingesting a bit of salt to cut the water weight a bit, and then fiber to aid the digestion of everything and also help metabolism. it also fills you a bit. ill say the biggest thing ive had was maybe a lean piece of chicken, and ive had 1 piece. no breakfast, but somthin around like 930, which is about 2 hours after im awake, then a lot of water, and some gatorade for teh salt factor, then a small amount of food, like a bag of trail mix around 330, and maybe some vegetables and fruit around 7. then sleep around midnight, and it works well.

Canadian Lax
01-30-2007, 08:02 AM
how much have you lost??

mylax33142
01-31-2007, 05:02 PM
i heard from my math teacher(world class wrestler in college) that you shout cut all sugar, and flour and you will be good. so as long as you eat like 2 meals a day from the salad bar, but use like balsalmic vineger, and not dressing, and you will lose fat, but probly not weight. the next thing, is that on like sunday, if you do like a couple laps in the gym(metabolism) in the morning and then only drink water and no food all day, youll get over the hump and lose some good weight. but the big thing is just really cutting out all soda, juices and candy, youll definitly get lean.
eat bannanas, the potasium helps you lose water weight.
and meats like steak require more calories to be broken down and used, than they provide.

oh yeah, this guy had ups, he was 33 and could jump clear over a school desk. he even jumped a standard 5x3 table. he was nuts!

SED
01-31-2007, 05:47 PM
you cant live without calories though
thats why the guy that invented the atkens(sp?) diet died from some heart failure, after using his diet plan of cutting all fat and calories.
1. You still eat calories on the Atkins diet, duh
2. Robert Atkins slipped on some ice, went into a coma, and died later of kidney failure, so maybe you should check your "facts"
sorry, didn't read the above quote.

EHSLAX12
02-01-2007, 10:06 PM
how much have you lost??

im goning on close to 10 pounds so far. thats within like 2 weeks and change. over the years, ive had so much accidental injury, that i basically havent lifted anywhere near as much as i should have, so i had a greater fat content (ewww...i know). so what i dont eat, eats at the fat and breaks it down. water only helps that reaction. eating very little, all i have is maybe 2 eggs, 2 glasses of milk, and a rational portion of meat and some vegetables, and then a lot of water, and it works out, you just have to space it out a bit. it seems to be working, and i cant wait for liek 3 weeks till i get to start working again.

the wister
02-01-2007, 10:14 PM
and meats like steak require more calories to be broken down and used, than they provide.
I refute the credibility of your facts
oh yeah, this guy had ups, he was 33 and could jump clear over a school desk. he even jumped a standard 5x3 table. he was nuts!
Cool?
sorry, didn't read the above quote.
Are you talking about the twenty minute scolding I gave him? You must've since you posted all that together and haven't edited your post. But thanks for the backup