salisbury academics

[shakeNbake]

does anybody know how solid salisbury's academics are?

[jk20jk20]

not very good that i know...many of the kids on the team went to d1 schools or didnt have the grades to play d1...if you want to play d3 go to a really nice smart school like denison or stevens tech

[somrandomguy]

I'm sure Salisbury's academics are just as good as those of any other small liberal-arts school. They're in the Princeton Review, for one, so they can't be that bad. Also remember, you'll get out of undergraduate what you put in. As long as you get good grades, you can still get into any grad school you want as long as you do well on whatever test you need to take for it.

[shakeNbake]

yeah thanks, iv been looking at a lot of nescac schools and know that just about every one of them has outstanding academics, but i was contacted by salisbury today and was wondering if they could hold their own against the bowdoins and middleburys

and jk20 i think ur thinking of the prep school? im talkin the university

[thechosenone]

salisbury's academics are nowhere near a NESCAC school.

[laxstar003]

I'm sure Salisbury's academics are just as good as those of any other small liberal-arts school.

This is way off.. Salisbury's academics are nowhere near as good as Williams, Amherst, Middlebury, Washington & Lee, Davidson, Colgate, etc. Not a bad school, it's just not comparable to some of the other LACs.

[jsdwyer91]

i dnt really know about there academics but i know its what you take out of the education and what you put into is what counts i think

[EHSLAX12]

I'm sure Salisbury's academics are just as good as those of any other small liberal-arts school. They're in the Princeton Review, for one, so they can't be that bad. Also remember, you'll get out of undergraduate what you put in. As long as you get good grades, you can still get into any grad school you want as long as you do well on whatever test you need to take for it.

my coach went to salisbury, he studied in an athletic field...and im not talkin about a lax field...i mean his major was somethin around sports.

[Eclipse]

Salisbury State is not a very amazing academic school..its just average.

It is a decent school...not bad...just not amazing either. Its a State school so you cant have too high of expectations.

[wolfie8914]

not very good that i know...many of the kids on the team went to d1 schools or didnt have the grades to play d1...if you want to play d3 go to a really nice smart school like denison or stevens tech

denison and stevens tech arent exactly smart schools either....?

[wolfie8914]

yeah thanks, iv been looking at a lot of nescac schools and know that just about every one of them has outstanding academics, but i was contacted by salisbury today and was wondering if they could hold their own against the bowdoins and middleburys

and jk20 i think ur thinking of the prep school? im talkin the university

hahah no....salisbury is not even in the ballpark of bowdoin/midd

[crazylegs]

alright here's the deal, Salisbury used to be a state school and did not always get the brightest kids, the academics were nowhere like they are now and SSU for a while had a pretty bad rep. academic wise. A couple years ago the university took the state part out of it and it is now just SU, and in doing so significantly changed their academic standards. Salisbury now a days is just as good academically as any other school, and are doing nothing but moving up. The thing is alot of older people still remember SSU for what it used to be and still give it that reputation, but its just not like that anymore. They are also as we speak undergoing millions of dollars in renovations and new buildings to the campus itself. I would check it out if I were you for sure.

[truth]

alright here's the deal, Salisbury used to be a state school and did not always get the brightest kids, the academics were nowhere like they are now and SSU for a while had a pretty bad rep. academic wise. A couple years ago the university took the state part out of it and it is now just SU, and in doing so significantly changed their academic standards. Salisbury now a days is just as good academically as any other school, and are doing nothing but moving up. The thing is alot of older people still remember SSU for what it used to be and still give it that reputation, but its just not like that anymore. They are also as we speak undergoing millions of dollars in renovations and new buildings to the campus itself. I would check it out if I were you for sure.


You are pretty much correct. Its actually much easier to get into many more liberal arts schools than it is Salisbury. Granted, this would exclude NESCAC schools.

[NorthernViking]

Salisbury is still a part of the Maryland Public University system, which includes U of M, UMBC, Towson (they dropped "State" from the name too), Morgan State, Frostburg, UMES, etc.

They beefed up the admission requirements, but still a state school.

[jk20jk20]

whoever said denison and stevens tech arent good schools is a total idiot

[CTlaxHead]

Besides the Nescac schools, the really good academic schools are ...

Haverford (One of the top schools in the whole country)
Steven's (Contrary to what someone said before it is a very good school)
RPI
Skidmore
RIT

[jk20jk20]

thank you kids at stevens tech are freaky smart

[wolfie8914]

whoever said denison and stevens tech arent good schools is a total idiot

yea i was harsh on stevens....but you need to get off your knees for denison...it's like slighty above average.

[fossil8412]

It's made me really mad lately how everyone seems to know everything about how good a school is, academically, but doesn't cite it. Honestly, and with no intention of flaming, a lot of the kids on this forum are younger and have hardly explored colleges. If you really want to get good information, look at accredited sources like princeton review, college board, etc. This isn't a comprehensive list, but categorically it's really helpful for what you're looking for: DIII schools with good academics and good lacrosse programs. Here you go: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1libartco_brief.php

Additionally, if you want to refute or claim that a school is "good or bad," back it up with some statistics people. Justification of a school as good or bad varies from person to person, but no one can argue with fact. I'm not trying to exemplify anyone as doing the wrong thing, just saying because I've read other debates recently, like whether UVA is a good school or not, that really are so inconsistent and unhelpful.

As far as Salisbury goes; I think you will find everything you need here: http://www.princetonreview.com/college/research/profiles/generalinfo.asp?listing=1022710&LTID=1. Hope that's of some help. If your looking for the best DIII lacrosse team with the best academics though, I would just go to lax.com and look at DIII's top 20, then see which of those schools correlate with the best academic ratings on princetonreview.com.

[wolfie8914]

Both princeton review and USnews' rankings of colleges have come under quite a bit of scrutiny. I read a NYtimes article earlier this year when the 06-07 rankings came out and it basically said that while they are relatively accurate, the system they use to figure out placement is flawed. For example, the variables used in the rankings could be irrelevant to what some people look for in a good school.

Dont get me wrong, a top 20 school is still a top 20 school, just maybe not as close the top as you thought, etc.

[fossil8412]

Both princeton review and USnews' rankings of colleges have come under quite a bit of scrutiny. I read a NYtimes article earlier this year when the 06-07 rankings came out and it basically said that while they are relatively accurate, the system they use to figure out placement is flawed. For example, the variables used in the rankings could be irrelevant to what some people look for in a good school.

Dont get me wrong, a top 20 school is still a top 20 school, just maybe not as close the top as you thought, etc.

True, but then again everyone has their own most important variables, making it impossible to be completely accurate. However, I would say their ranking system is a lot more substantial than, "My friend goes there, he says the academics are gooooooood....:)"

You could also look to see if Salisbury posts on their website statistics about the incoming class of '07. It will give you a rough idea of their selectivity and academic composition, as it pretty much is the students who make the university. Good luck to you though.

[NumberFour]

salibury sent me a packet of information concerning their school, the gpa average is a 3.4 and apparently they say they have one of the best business schools on the east coast

[kylax09]

yea i was harsh on stevens....but you need to get off your knees for denison...it's like slighty above average.


idiot on denison too, it used to be one of the hardest schools to get into in the country, and is still one of the most expensive.

[knights12]

Salisbury is an average school...but very reasonalbe for the price. i live in MD and ill be going to salisbury next year. its an excellent school for business since the purdue chicken guy went there and donated like a gagillion dollars to teh business program. its also a pretty good teaching school. and on top of all that...its a big party school thats only about 25 mins from the beach.

i know my gpa was like 3.2 and i got a 1890 on my sats...and i didnt get my acceptance letter until they sent out their second wave of acceptance letters. its a state university and they only accept about 50% of the people who apply there...granted 6000 apply, 3000 get accepted and about 1100 decide to attend.

[laxer06]

whats your gps and where do you go to school?

[RollDodge21]

FYI (from the US News site) here are some hard stats (in rough order of best to worst):

Stevens Tech: - 47% Acceptance Rate with 2,418 applicants. 3.7 Avg HS GPA, 1180-1370 SAT (25-75 percentile)

Denison: - 39% Acceptance Rate with 5,144 applicants. 3.6 Avg HS GPA, 1150-1330 SAT (25-75 percentile)

Salisbury: - 69% Acceptance Rate with 9,384 applicants. 3.5 Avg HS GPA, 1050-1210 SAT (25-75 percentile)

Salisbury may not be in the same league as the other two, but it's not that far off. Besides, if you are going to school to play lacrosse, you couldn't do a whole lot better...

[beaudad]

check again on Stevens. Lots of brain power on the hill across the river from Manhattan. To stay there you have to have it upstairs.

[beaudad]

Good facts RollDodge21! And Salisbury could beat several D1 programs.

[Agent Orange]

Fossil makes a good point: do the research and validate what you say.

Now, that said, my own 2-cents is this: don't put a lot of faith into what you see in these "best schools" lists (Princeton Review, Petersons, etc.). These rankings are derived from surveys completed by the school's at the surveyors/collectors' requests. Meaning that schools can (and do) manipulate the data and submit whatever info they feel will paint the rosiest picture possible. Furthermore, the surveyors do NOT do any back-research to validate the data.

How do I know this? I worked in admissions for about 12 years and was part of an internal team that completed these surveys (usually 4-5 a year). It was in the school's best interest to get as much milage out of these opportunities as possible -and skewing the data as much as reasonably possible was what it was all about


It's made me really mad lately how everyone seems to know everything about how good a school is, academically, but doesn't cite it. Honestly, and with no intention of flaming, a lot of the kids on this forum are younger and have hardly explored colleges. If you really want to get good information, look at accredited sources like princeton review, college board, etc. This isn't a comprehensive list, but categorically it's really helpful for what you're looking for: DIII schools with good academics and good lacrosse programs. Here you go: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1libartco_brief.php

Additionally, if you want to refute or claim that a school is "good or bad," back it up with some statistics people. Justification of a school as good or bad varies from person to person, but no one can argue with fact. I'm not trying to exemplify anyone as doing the wrong thing, just saying because I've read other debates recently, like whether UVA is a good school or not, that really are so inconsistent and unhelpful.

As far as Salisbury goes; I think you will find everything you need here: http://www.princetonreview.com/college/research/profiles/generalinfo.asp?listing=1022710&LTID=1. Hope that's of some help. If your looking for the best DIII lacrosse team with the best academics though, I would just go to lax.com and look at DIII's top 20, then see which of those schools correlate with the best academic ratings on princetonreview.com.

[AngryLongStick]

Salisbury has one of the best Accounting programs in the mid-Atlantic. If you thats what you're looking for.