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oregon D
07-14-2004, 12:35 AM
So we D's dont need to quickstick, but it still wouldnt hurt to have that skill right?

FredtheCat
07-14-2004, 12:38 AM
You might not use it very often, but sure, any skill is worth having, IMO.

oregon D
07-14-2004, 01:02 AM
Ill get good at it anyways.

blckout20
07-16-2004, 01:13 AM
I've done it once ever. Not very useful. Ive shafted the ball more than ive quicksticked it.

stegmakk
07-16-2004, 08:40 AM
dont waste your time...quickstick would mean you would have to be close...like on the crease...without the ball...show me a coach that lets a pole sit on crease without the ball, and ill show you a coach that has his head up his arse...

spenny
07-16-2004, 09:23 AM
you can practice it if you want, but work on other stuff first, like BTB with your pole, that's a useless trick as well but you might actually use that in a game situation. the real problem with a long pole quick stick isnt that you wont have the opportunity to use it, its the physics involved in doing it. the reason a quick stick works is because it redirects the ball so quickly its hadr for the goalie ot adjust. a long pole quick stick would take so long to get off that a goalie, or a riding attackman would have time to realise what's happening and make a save/stick check/takeaway

its a trick, not a useful tool. learn and nail the tools before working on the tricks

WarriorLax22
07-16-2004, 09:39 AM
i think mike howley scored a goal against matt hunter from an assist from ryan powell using a quick stick.

lax1234
07-16-2004, 11:51 AM
quicksticking may be useful once in a while but u usually wouldn't use it if ur a d-man. its still may good to be able to do it though

lax1234
07-16-2004, 12:04 PM
Spenny- what school do you coach at?

shtbrkd00
07-16-2004, 02:55 PM
i think i know a learned a different meaning of quick stick than what you guys are saying

what exactly are you guys refering to

spenny
07-16-2004, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by lax1234
Spenny- what school do you coach at?

i coach youth- 7th-8th grade primarily, altho i do some coaching with the little tykes- 1st-2nd grade

lax1234
07-16-2004, 03:57 PM
oh

spenny
07-16-2004, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by lax1234
oh

why do you ask?

Havernaf
07-17-2004, 07:30 PM
heres the thing about quicksticking:
yes d men dont do it alot, but it comes in handy, maybe not on a shot, but on a clear and you have a guy on you its easy to "redirect/quickstick" the ball to another player than catch and deal with an attaskman that gonna hack you. (so in that sense it will help)
but yes you should practice for one simple reason, it will get you more comfortable with you stick, the more comfortable with your stick you are the better you are with your stick, the better you are with your stick you become more of an offensive threat, the more of an offenseive threat you are the more chance you have to use your newly aquired quicksticking skills on the goal.
thats the most roundabout way to explain it id say.

basically while you might never use a btb, or around the world, or anything else, its good to get good at them becuase it makes you better with stick in hand.

Sorry for the spelling/grammatical errors.

dboy212
07-18-2004, 04:30 PM
BTB stands for what?

spenny
07-19-2004, 08:29 AM
BTB = Behind The Back.

havernaf, if you are one of my players and miss a quickstick during a clear, you arent going to enjoy the next few days at practice...

if you are in a situation where you are covered and quicksticking is your only option, i'd rather see you
a) try to catch and control the ball, giving the man who was close enough to be quick-sticked to a chance to set up a pick for you, or if you lose the ball, the 2 of you can do man-ball to try and win the GB.
or b) if the situation is really dire, forget the ball and sag back in and play d on the about to materalize fast break.

if you quickstick and miss, you are very probably going to end up way out of position for the fast break that will happen when the riding A gets the ball.

just my .02

stegmakk
07-19-2004, 08:53 AM
I definately agree with Spenny...
I'd rather see the d-man lean a shoulder or anything other than quickstik the ball to pass...

ASJT3
07-19-2004, 09:07 AM
Whenever we do line drills, my coach always has everyone including the defense do quickstick, it probly improves hand-eye coordination.

spenny
07-19-2004, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by ASJT3
Whenever we do line drills, my coach always has everyone including the defense do quickstick, it probly improves hand-eye coordination.

while i cant disagree that it will sharpen your hand-eye coordination, i can think of a bunch of ways that i'd accomplish that, while having you work on skills that you's use more often

CTLaxer
07-19-2004, 01:45 PM
quick sticking with a d-pole, especially at a younger age is pretty important as far as i'm concerned. I have my players do all kinds of stick tricks and fancy stuff during wall ball and even devote 20mins of practice time ocassionally for stuff like that. While some skills may not be directly useful on a field which makes some people question doing them at all, on the whole they benefit everyone tremendously.

As someone stated before they help with hand-eye coordination. Along with that they help build confidence, keep the game/practice fun, and get the player familiar and more comfortable with their stick. Not only that, they will show any defiencies a player has with their stick or stick skills(i.e. quick sticking with a head that's pinched too much doesn't work too well). The overall benefit of quick sticking and other things like behind the back and all that jazz helps in other ways that don't directly translate on to the field into something you can see.

On top of that, I can think of a few times when a d-pole behing able to quick stick would be beneficial. Say when your goalie is trying to clear it on a tough ride and gets in trouble cause the defense brought their man too close. Goalie fires it to the d-pole and he quick sticks it back to the goalie since the riding player followed the ball. That's just one example.