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LaxRef
02-13-2007, 02:56 PM
US LACROSSE COLLEGIATE OFFICIALS COMMITTEE NEWSLETTER 2/14/07

FROM CHUCK WINTERS, NCAA RULES SECRETARY AND WARREN KIMBER, NCAA NCO:

If a head coach sends over half of his team before the game to have their sticks checked, notify him that you will do only a maximum of four (4) stick checks before the game. Coaches need to be reminded that they certify before the game that ALL of the equipment used by their team meets rulebook specifications.

Before the game, notify the head coach that if any of his players adjusts the strings of his crosse after an official asks for the crosse and a goal is scored, there will be an immediate flag, loss of goal, one (1) minute penalty and loss of ball.

After a goal is scored the head official conducts a random check of A1's crosse. A1 pulls his strings before handing his crosse to the lead official. The lead should immediately throw his flag and this will be the only penalty assessed. The trail and single side officials should delay a second to see if the lead has a penalty for pulling strings. At that time they would hand the crosse they were going to inspect back to the player and move to midfield for the restart.

A1 scores a goal and the lead official asks for his crosse to do a random check. At the same time, the crosse of B1 is checked and both crosses are found to be illegal, (tampered with). RULING: Goal is disallowed, A1 and B1 serve three (3) minute non-releasable penalties. The penalties are simultaneous so you go to alternate possession (AP). The ball is awarded to team by AP, twenty (20) yards laterally from the goal.

A1 scores a goal and the lead official asks for his crosse to do a random check. At the same time, the crosse of B1 is checked and both crosses are found to be illegal. A1 for a tampered crosse and B1 for a deep pocket. RULING: Goal is disallowed, the ball is awarded to B twenty (20) yards laterally from the goal due to less penalty time being served by B1.

It is strongly suggested that six (6) stick checks be conducted throughout the game and the last one (1) to be completed before the middle of the fourth (4) quarter. Remember the coach always has the right to request a stick check in addition to those you conduct.

The stick checks are to be random. They are to be done during the game without interfering with the flow or the momentum of the game. Appropriate intervals: team time out, TV time outs (when applicable) injury time outs, between periods and just before the start of the second half. The officiating crew is to decide the times during the game when they plan to do the stick checks in their pre-game meeting.

The passage in bold makes no sense to me. If you have a 39" stick and you're going to be inspected after a goal, pull the strings—even if you don't have a drawstring!—and you'll get a 1:00 USC instead of a 3:00 illegal crosse penalty! That's a bargain.

NCLAXREF
02-13-2007, 03:26 PM
I agree with you, also they said 6 stick checks, not pairs of checks, is that a change from the convention?

Lastly, they were very specific between lead and head official what if it happens to someone else?

Sounds stupid, but we have seen worse?

laxfan25
02-13-2007, 04:52 PM
I got that e-mail also and it had my head scratching. I still don't get it. We need a memo clarifying the clarification memo! Perhaps someone can contact that Eric Evans fellow who sent out that newsletter and he can clarify. Anyone know how to get a hold of him?

Longpole5435
02-13-2007, 05:10 PM
The passage in bold makes no sense to me. If you have a 39" stick and you're going to be inspected after a goal, pull the strings—even if you don't have a drawstring!—and you'll get a 1:00 USC instead of a 3:00 illegal crosse penalty! That's a bargain.
Not only is it a bargain, but I believe the crosse remains availible for use.

shrekjr
02-13-2007, 06:05 PM
Not only is it a bargain, but I believe the crosse remains availible for use.
Agreed, except that guy can never score with that stick. If he pulls the strings, the goal is not allowed, and if he doesn't pull the strings, it will still be an illegal stick and the goal will not be allowed. Granted, it would be an advantage to play with that stick, but I don't think I'd want to play with a stick if I couldn't score with it.

shrekjr
02-13-2007, 06:06 PM
The other thing that got my attention was limiting pregame stick checks to 4 per team. I had 8 or 9 come up to me from one team this weekend and all but 2 of the sticks were illegal.

Woodenstick
02-14-2007, 01:42 AM
"The stick checks are to be random. They are to be done during the game without interfering with the flow or the momentum of the game. Appropriate intervals: team time out, TV time outs (when applicable) injury time outs, between periods and just before the start of the second half. The officiating crew is to decide the times during the game when they plan to do the stick checks in their pre-game meeting."

This seems to reject checks after goals and before face-offs, which I would think are good times to catch cheaters....It also assumes time-outs will happen before the end of the 4th quarter, which may or may not occur if you are not televised.

LaxRef
02-14-2007, 08:38 AM
If a head coach sends over half of his team before the game to have their sticks checked, notify him that you will do only a maximum of four (4) stick checks before the game. Coaches need to be reminded that they certify before the game that ALL of the equipment used by their team meets rulebook specifications.

Someone pointed out that if Team A has 32 people and the coach sends 16 people out for equipment checks, this says we should do only 4 checks. But what if he sends 15 or 17 people out? He's not sending half his team out, so this ruling doesn't apply. Do we then check all of them?

eme
02-14-2007, 09:17 AM
Regarding stick checks pre-game for players. Be as accommodating as you can without the process detracting from the other things you have to do. You have the "no more than 4, please" guideline when you need it.

Regarding stick checks during the game, it's important that we don't all do the same procedure; that's what random means.

Here's one template:

1. After first A goal. Get scorer and a D pole from B
2. After first B goal. Get scorer and a D pole from A
3. End of first quarter
4. Start of second quarter. Do the near side wing guys.
5. Any TOs in first half or injury, etc. Any TOs or injury in 3rd period.
6. At the end of the first half.
7. At start of 3rd period. Do the faceoff guys.
The above will give you your 6 checks maybe even by the end of the third quarter.

I hate to suggest this but it might behoove us to carry a ball in our back pocket until all the checks are done. Looks awful, though. But earlyseason we have so many clothes on anyway...

kylezkdlf
02-14-2007, 09:29 AM
It is strongly suggested that six (6) stick checks be conducted throughout the game and the last one (1) to be completed before the middle of the fourth (4) quarter. Remember the coach always has the right to request a stick check in addition to those you conduct.

So does if one stick check has occured before the middle of the fourth quarter, does that mean there can be 5 stick checks after the middle of fourth quarter?

laxfan25
02-14-2007, 10:46 AM
So does if one stick check has occured before the middle of the fourth quarter, does that mean there can be 5 stick checks after the middle of fourth quarter?
Did you neglect the word LAST before one??

pboyd
02-16-2007, 09:23 AM
NCAA: A1 scores and the officials check the sticks of A2 and B2. Both sticks are found to be illegal and each player is assessed a 3-min NR simultaneous foul penalty. How is play restarted in this situation?

Laxer1241
02-16-2007, 10:08 AM
Are these 6 stick checks applied to the highschool level aswell?

LaxRef
02-16-2007, 10:18 AM
NCAA: A1 scores and the officials check the sticks of A2 and B2. Both sticks are found to be illegal and each player is assessed a 3-min NR simultaneous foul penalty. How is play restarted in this situation?

Simultaneous fouls with equal time served and with a face-off pending = faceoff.