NFL Trades/Releases

[Mista Hollywood]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2784408

thats dre bly one

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2784626

joey porter one



http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2784758

bledsoe..

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2784681

horn

[Falconsmikevick]

The Steelers are retarded. Who releases Joey Porter because they're "looking to go in a different direction with their linebacking corps". Joey Porter is fast, big, and strong. What more can you look for in a linebacker? You can go in any "direction" with him.

[CtLaxin]

thank god joe horn got cut, he was getting overpaid and barely played atall last season

[destructivelax]

dude fix your title. i thought this was spam because i couldn't understand what you were saying

[malax31]

I don't understand the joey porter release. That makes no sense. Drew Blesode is washed-up, and horn coulda stayed with the saints if he "only earned" about 4mil next year. what a selfish bafoon for, well im not going into that.

anyhoo, i would just like to say that THE LIONS GOT AN EFFIN STEAL! wow. A starting RB, a starting Tackle and a draft pick for a guy that wasin't even wanted by the coach. wow.

[Conanmonis]

i wonder where joey porter will go. I think the steelers mad a very stupid decision to do that. and i wonder if any one will pick up bledsoe

[RgLax]

i mean after joe horn was the saints leader after hurricane katrina na deveryone wore his jersey, he wants more money? That is jsuut mindboggling how he can be the unselfish leader then act like a stick up jerk.

Broncos got a decent trade, it depends on who the lions get with the draft pick, they might have overpaid

Bledsoe is washed up and is like viny testaverde now.

Porters relaease i think has something to do with something that we dont know about, like disagreements wit the management but it still doesnt make too much sense

[LameR]

Nah.

Bly has always been a good saftey, he just didnt do well in the Lions scheme. Besides, all he is going to be is a #2 in denver... they already have Champ Bailey (Bly and Bailey will make a sick secondary).

Isn't Bly a corner?

If so, it'd look like this:

CB's: Bly, Bailey
S's: Lynch, Foxworth

That's a pretty sick secondary.

[anjang86]

1) He was due a $1 million roster bonus
2) His cap hit was $6.5 million
3) He is 30 years old
4) He was threatening a holdout

Do you need any more reasons as to why Porter got cut? I wouldn't go around calling NFL teams like the Steelers stupid w/o knowing all the facts first. Unless we have some experts on this forum.

[lax21goalie2008]

Isn't Bly a corner?

If so, it'd look like this:

CB's: Bly, Bailey
S's: Lynch, Foxworth

That's a pretty sick secondary.
Foxworth aint a safety. He's a corner.

[BuckWyld]

Pats released Corey Dillon.

[anjang86]

Clearly you think you're an expert.

No I don't, but neither are those that think "the Steelers are stupid, Porter is a great LB" w/o knowing all the facts.

As a Steeler fan, I do not think Porter is worth the money he was asking for.

[Conanmonis]

check this out,
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-freeagentlist030107&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

im suprised dominic rhodes is out and dante stallworth. Theyll be the subjects of a good amount of nfl teams

[awelch1111]

okay w/ all this talk about cbs why isnt asante samuel being mentioned he=the best

[CtLaxin]

okay w/ all this talk about cbs why isnt asante samuel being mentioned he=the best

why? because he was franchise tagged by the Pats so he is still with them

[mnlax9]

i dont understand the joe horn release

[chslax24]

http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=3139

the bears traded thomas jones and a 2nd rd pick to the Jets, for...






a 2nd round pick.

what the heck...

[Lax n piemonade]

-Patriots sign Adalius Thomas to 7 year (something like that) $35 Million dollar deal
-Pats Trade 2nd and 7th round draft picks for Wes Welker

[crazzyD]

watup T JONESSSS

[Palmettolax45]

Did no one mention the biggest news of the day? Joey Porter to the fins! not exactly a qb but i would not want to be an offense going up against Jason Taylor, Zach Thomas, and Joey Porter.
on a side note im already missing Wes Welker he was the heart of the Fins O, the Pats dont know how much of a steal they got. also the Dolphins release TE Randy McMichel.

[SwRLaX10D]

heres the geniuses and dummies of the free agency (so far):

Dolphins- genius for signing Joey Porter and releasing Harrington
Steelers- dummies for letting porter go
Giants- dummies for giving coughlin one more year, then releasing arrington and one fo their guards
Jets- genius for getting Thomas Jones for a 2nd round pick
Bears- dummies for trading Jones and letting their D-coordinator walk
Chargers- dummies for firing Shottenheimer after a 14-2 season
49ers- genius for signing Clement and Lelie
Broncos- genius for trading plummer and signing Grahm

[malax31]

Yeah, I am still at a loss as to why the Bears traded Jones for a 2nd round pick, AND gave up their 2nd round pick. Do they really think that the money they drop, and a 37th overall selection will eclipse what they would have got had they stayed with Jones and their 62nd guy? Don't get it. (not sure on the exact pick numbers, but know they were in the 30s and 60s)

And Wes Welkers is extrememly underrated at WR, there are no better recievers for the Patriots to draft, so I am loving this deal.
I'm not agreeing with it, but I can tell you why the bears traded jones. Jones held out of mini camps last year, and almost didn't go to training camp. Also, he threatened to do the same this year. Although he kept his mouth shut, he was not happy. Also, he was in the final year of his contract and the bears wanted to get something in exchange for him. And to top it all off-the have a fomer 4th overall pick waiting in the wings-although i don't think benson is anything special (no work ethic-just watch the super bowl over. he gave up).

I also think the pats over-payed for welker. He is a good player, but not a star. With that being said, he will fit well there.

[malax31]

Porter was good but expected more pay than he was worth. He was a good outside linebacker that had a big mouth and in my opinion wasnt really that consistant. The Steelers seem to be in somewhat of a rebuilding mode anyways.

Lelie to SF wasnt that great of a move unless they want him to be a #2 reciever. Im both a Denver and Atlanta fan so Ive seen him play lots, he doesnt like contact and has choked under pressure more than once.

Ive also seen Wes Welker play in Miami, I personally dont see all the hype. He is a good return man, he is an undersized reciever that is pretty fast. He will probably only be used as as a return man and maybe like a 3rd reciever. I think a 2nd and 7th for him was pushing it.

Losers for next year- Giants. They lost their best player (Tiki Barber) who flat out said he retired early because of coaching, Eli Manning still sucks, Arrington was a bust, Burress is unhappy. I dont think that they will go over .500

Winners- Pats. I think they should be superbowl favorites this year. The addition of Thomas and keeping Samuel makes them solid at D, they got Welker, they might pick up Randy Moss, plus they have 2 1st round picks. Thats rediculous.
There is absolutly no way that deal is going to happen. Think about it-the Pats, built around high-charcter guys who play hard, trading for randy moss. No way. And you are correct, Eli sucks!! (sorry, I'm a birds fan)

[malax31]

Yeah but the pats are already showing interesting him, its possible. They are definitely looking to see what kind of a deal they would need. I think some ESPN analysts said that Oakland was asking for a 1st, I doubt that will happen.


The thing is though, the Belicheck and the entire Pats team is just too strong of a force for Moss to overtake. Moss can screw around with the Raiders, he would never be able to do it with the Pats.
As an Eagles fan, I would have to disagree. The Eagles had built one of the strongest, if not the strongest organizations in all of football, until one man destroyed it. That one man is a very similar person to randy moss-so it can be done, even to the pats. I would never risk that if I were the pats-esp with Danté Stalworth on the open market (a good guy himself).

[wglax14]

Is it just me or do the Jets have more than enough running backs? They had Leon Washington, Cedric Houston, Derrick Blaylock, Kevin Barlow(?), and now Thomas Jones? I think they should be focusing on defense.

[awelch1111]

belicheck sad that he could straighten out moss and he is a generally quiet guy so that could mean that they are gonna het moss

[malax31]

Is it just me or do the Jets have more than enough running backs? They had Leon Washington, Cedric Houston, Derrick Blaylock, Kevin Barlow(?), and now Thomas Jones? I think they should be focusing on defense.
Barlow was def. released, and houston/blaylock might have been too. Leon Washington is the future, but Jones/Washington is a great tandem for now.

[Mike21]

Thank god we released Bledsoe. I hated him with a passion he is too old, like Testeverde, just go home and WATCH football don't play him.
On a side note I don't think Brad Johnson was the best pick, I personally would have went with Trent Green, but he is looking to start, so I guess we made out ok...

EDIt: 200th post!!

[anjang86]

heres the geniuses and dummies of the free agency (so far):

Dolphins- genius for signing Joey Porter and releasing Harrington
Steelers- dummies for letting porter go
Giants- dummies for giving coughlin one more year, then releasing arrington and one fo their guards
Jets- genius for getting Thomas Jones for a 2nd round pick
Bears- dummies for trading Jones and letting their D-coordinator walk
Chargers- dummies for firing Shottenheimer after a 14-2 season
49ers- genius for signing Clement and Lelie
Broncos- genius for trading plummer and signing Grahm

Wait wait wait... so you are saying any team that signs a player is a genius while any team that cuts a player is a dummy? Washington Redskins are geniuses then? There is no award for "best team in the offseason"

Porter hasn't been good for the past 3 years, he had a good playoff run two years ago (TWO YEARS AGO) but if you look back on the sacks he had against Peyton Manning, he was UNTOUCHED every single time. We don't need to overpay someone to just run at the QB unblocked.

[MassLax929]

Dude the Broncos made Daniel Grahm the highest paid TE in NFL history, he cuaght 27 passes last year! lol

[malax31]

Thank god we released Bledsoe. I hated him with a passion he is too old, like Testeverde, just go home and WATCH football don't play him.
On a side note I don't think Brad Johnson was the best pick, I personally would have went with Trent Green, but he is looking to start, so I guess we made out ok...
ugh...not a Dallas fan. FLY EAGLES FLY!

anyhoo...there is talk of a QB contraversy in Dallas. Brad Johnson said "I am not comming to Dallas to be a mentor."

[CtLaxin]

yea baby, my saints signed Brian Simmons and Eric Johnson

[bushleague24]

Dude the Broncos made Daniel Grahm the highest paid TE in NFL history, he cuaght 27 passes last year! lol

Yah, I cant believe this either. Im a fan of the Pats and Grahm was the second string TE last year. Granted he was a good blocker but hes no Gonzales or Gates. Not only is the highest paid TE in history but he got 18 mill guaranteed. 18 Million!!!! Ridiculous. Broncos made a big mistake. They could have gotten a premier TE for that money. Thats QB money. The Broncos did get Travis Henry though and he will no doubt tear it up in Denver just like the previous 17 RB's before him.

[CtLaxin]

Yah, I cant believe this either. Im a fan of the Pats and Grahm was the second string TE last year. Granted he was a good blocker but hes no Gonzales or Gates. Not only is the highest paid TE in history but he got 18 mill guaranteed. 18 Million!!!! Ridiculous. Broncos made a big mistake. They could have gotten a premier TE for that money. Thats QB money. The Broncos did get Travis Henry though and he will no doubt tear it up in Denver just like the previous 17 RB's before him.

i think you have no idea what you are talking about. Graham is not only an except TE at both blocking and catching, but he is an amazing leader. graham served on the Pats as one of their Captains. He will be great on the Broncos because he will both block for new runningback Travis Henry but will also be a good new weapon for Cutler.

[laxgoaliebm16]

dre bly is suposedly coming to the 'Skins now possibly a trade for ladell betts

[CtLaxin]

dre bly is suposedly coming to the 'Skins now possibly a trade for ladell betts

Dre Bly has the Skins and the Saints interested in him right now

O yea, Darrell Jackon has the Saints and 49ers going after him

More stuff I just saw

Jamal Lewis was signed by the Browns
Patrick Ramsey was signed by the Broncos

[roycegracie47]

dre bly is suposedly coming to the 'Skins now possibly a trade for ladell betts
I don't see this happening. Considering Bett's recent contract extension as well as Gibb's constant reaffirmations that the future of the Skins' backfield is a Portis/Betts tandem (plus Saunders prefers Betts to Portis). The Skins need to focus on the Oline and Dline, and almost every other position guys are restructuring. The offseason may be a big sending time for the Skins, but I see this as being a modest one.

Edit~ that isn't to say they won't spend big for Bly, it is Daniel Snyder...but Betts is staying put. It's looking like this will be part of a deal for the Broncos to trade up on draft day for the 6th pick.

[Mista Hollywood]

Lewis is with the browns and McGahee Is with the Bills


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2791313
Lewis

McGahee

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2791831

[CtLaxin]

Falcons agreed to a 3 year deal with Joe Horn.

You boys better watch out if we get Calvin Johnson in the draft.

Joe Horn sucks, why do you think my saints dropped him, he wasnt worth the money

[CtLaxin]

Because they have 3 young recievers and he wasnt worth the money he was asking.

Its like saying the Steelers dropped Joey Porter because he sucked. Joe Horn is a 4 time pro bowler.

no but the saints actually dropped horn because he sucks. He played what 4 games last season and 6 the year before. He is not even better than the Saints 3rd string WR, it has nothing to do with how old he is or how young he is. He is just terrible and its all about joe horn

[LameR]

no but the saints actually dropped horn because he sucks. He played what 4 games last season and 6 the year before. He is not even better than the Saints 3rd string WR, it has nothing to do with how old he is or how young he is. He is just terrible and its all about joe horn

Thought he had around 700 yards, which would be a monumental total for 4 games so I looked it up.

This past season:
10 games, 37 receptions, 679 yards, 4 TDs

The previous season:
13 games, 654 yards, 1 TD

The 5 prior to that were his good years thus far, averaging about 1300 yards and 85 receptions and 8 TDs for each.

Who knows? Maybe he can bounce back.

[Meade Lacrosse]

Falcons agreed to a 3 year deal with Joe Horn.

You boys better watch out if we get Calvin Johnson in the draft.

I don't think you will. What do you guys have to trade up and pick him up? You'd need to throw your first this year, a second this year, probably another second day pick, a first day pick next year, and maybe a low profile player to get high enough in teh draft to get him. The lions don't need him, the browns and bucs might though. The Browns would probably rather get Joe Thomas or Adrian Peterson, but CJ next to Braylon Edwards would be nice. And the Bucs would love to get CJ, seeing as Galloway is getting old, and Clayton is starting to look like a one year wonder.

[SwRLaX10D]

wow....didnt see Lewis signing with Browns or McGahee traded to the Ravens coming!

Ravens offense is gonna be insane next year (barring any injuries or whatver during the offseason/preseason), and the Bills are now somewhat screwed because the RB free agency pool is rather thin, but theres always the draft

[sthlaxman40]

Texans picked up Ahmann Green (RB from green bay), Danny Clark (LB from new orleans) and Jordan Black (OT from kansas city). I think considering the texans have less money and cap room than most teams, these are pretty good moves. I wish they had signed Ashley Lelie though.

[CtLaxin]

Texans picked up Ahmann Green (RB from green bay), Danny Clark (LB from new orleans) and Jordan Black (OT from kansas city). I think considering the texans have less money and cap room than most teams, these are pretty good moves. I wish they had signed Ashley Lelie though.

while they are good signings for houston the problems are that Ahman hasnt played well in a few years, Danny clark did not play much last year and was cut from the team before the saints and i have no idea about jordan black. These arent huge signing but there is potential for these guys to do well

JUST IN (6:20)- Brown trade Reuben Droughns to Giants for Tim Carter

[Meade Lacrosse]

Our first and Matt Schaub. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd next year.

Matt Schaub is IMO better than any QB this year, miles ahead of anyone besides Brady Quinn and Russel. Fits into any NFL system and in addition to having a great arm the kid can run too. He ran under Vicks playbook untampered with.

Honestly I think thats worth it... the 10th overall pick and a great QB (worth a 1st and a 3rd) as well as another pick.

That could work well, but the only teams in need of a QB could be the the Top 4. The 5/6 teams are set at QB, and in all honesty, their is little chance CJ makes it past that.

That said, if you guys offered enough, I can see you guys trading up with the Browns. The Bucs just got Jeff Garcia, so they might be a little hesitant, but the Browns wouldn't mind Schaub. Course, to jump 7 spots is a big deal in itself, jumping to no. 3 is even bigger. Its possible, but it'll require a bunch of picks. It would sure as hell be worth it though- CJ staying in Georgia to catch balls from Vick.

[sthlaxman40]

CtLaxin,

I agree none of these guys are huge signings by any means (Green is an aging vet and Clark is a reserve). But the Texans really don't have a ton of room to operate in their salary cap. Black is a Texas area guy who played for Notre Dame and hes a legit starting offensive tackle. Not great, but better than whoever we have.

[bushleague24]

i think you have no idea what you are talking about. Graham is not only an except TE at both blocking and catching, but he is an amazing leader. graham served on the Pats as one of their Captains. He will be great on the Broncos because he will both block for new runningback Travis Henry but will also be a good new weapon for Cutler.

Yah, I think Graham is pretty good, but he does not deserve the money that he got. He is no way in hell one of the premier tight ends in the league. I wouldn't put him in the top ten. There was a reason he wasnt first string for the pats last year. What I am trying to say is that they could have got him for much cheaper then they did. Much cheaper.

[Meade Lacrosse]

Yah, I think Graham is pretty good, but he does not deserve the money that he got. He is no way in hell one of the premier tight ends in the league. I wouldn't put him in the top ten. There was a reason he wasnt first string for the pats last year. What I am trying to say is that they could have got him for much cheaper then they did. Much cheaper.

Actually, probably not. He might have been worth significantly less, but the Seahawks were willing to dish out the money if the Broncos wouldn't. It would have been otherwise impossible to get him to come to Denver unless they won the bidding war.


But being a Redskins fan, I've learned that big name free agents won't win you anything. I like the way we handled this year- Bringing in a class act like Fletcher was great, and bringing back Smoot was even better. Hopefully we'll pick up Jamaal Anderson, and we can go places.

[Mista Hollywood]

Stallworth is with the pats


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2794615

[Lax101]

i think you have no idea what you are talking about. Graham is not only an except TE at both blocking and catching, but he is an amazing leader. graham served on the Pats as one of their Captains. He will be great on the Broncos because he will both block for new runningback Travis Henry but will also be a good new weapon for Cutler.
Graham is a role player, and nothing more. He's a versatile blocker and a decent pass catcher. But he should have in no way demanded that kind of money.

Graham isn't the best pass catching tight end in the league. He's not the most athletic tight end in the league. He's not the best blocking tight end in the league. Yet he's the highest paid tight end in the league. YOU are the one ridiculous to call him exceptional at catching AND blocking. He's not a great pass-catching tight end, and he never has been. That's why the Patriots drafted Ben Watson in the first round, just a few years after they drafted Daniel Graham in the first round. Watson is an explosive tight end who can generate an offense. Graham can't, because he's a ROLE PLAYER. Bill Belichick, arguably the smartest coach in the NFL, had him as a second stringer. How much does that say about his "exceptional catching and blocking skills?"

Essentially, the Broncos are paying Graham more than any tight end in the league to catch 30-35 passes and block on already the most stacked offensive line in the NFL for the past decade. Woop dee doo.

[Meade Lacrosse]

London Fletcher was a good signing. Fred Smoot is a waste of money. He couldn't even handle or hold on to a starting job for the Vikings, and he has a lot of attitude problems. More trouble than he is worth.

What do you mean attitude problems? He's had his share of stupid ideas (boating is not one of his strong suits), but just because he talks a TON on the field doesn't mean he's a jerk off of it. Plus, he's not here to start, he's here to play nickel. And he THRIVED in William's system in 04, which potentially got him his pay day in Minnesota.

[SwRLaX10D]

Stallworth is with the pats


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2794615Thats a good pick up! Stallworth is a speedy reciever with good hands who will fill in the gap Branch left

[Mista Hollywood]

Archuleta is with the bears. I actually enjoy watching this dude play.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2806226

[Meade Lacrosse]

Being a Redskins fan, I feel terribly for Arch. He was a good guy, never spoke out, and dealt with the crap that Gregg Williams gave him. Williams's ego is getting the best of him, and he's pretty much ruined guys like Arch and Arrington. He tried to do teh same to Antonio Pierce, but that dude is teh real deal.

In all honesty, the 6th rounder is better than nothing. He'll thrive in Chicago not because they're already a good defense, but because Lovie Smith is actually a good defensive coach.

This shakes thigns up for teh Redskins come draft day. There are some extremely illogical rumors being spread that they're actually considering drafting Jamarcus Russell. Not happening.

What it really comes down to for us is Calvin Johnson, Laron Landry, Jamaal Anderson, or Alan Branch.

Wide Receiver is not a need, but with a stud like CJ, if he's there at 6 (which, while unlikely, is not impossible), I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's there. Everyone knows that Jason Campbell is going to be the catalyst of our offense, and his maturity could be helped with the idea of having Moss on one side, CJ at the other, Randle El in the slot, Cooley at TE, Betts and Portis in teh back field, and having another stud reciever in Mike Sellers. This doesn't even include Brandon Lloyd as our #4 reciever.

Moreover, we have much more pressing needs on defense. Last year, we were at the bottom of the league at turnovers. With the loss of Arch, we essentially have no SS. There is a possibility Springs will go there, but its unlikely. This is why Landry would be great at number 6. He's a workout monster, a 4 year starter at LSU, and reminds a few people of Sean Taylor (I don't like taht comparison, but I've heard them).

Plus, we also sucked at getting to teh Quarterback. Jamaal Anderson had 13.5 sacks in THE toughest conference last year, and almost 20 tackles for a loss. He's a freak of an athlete, and could be a stud. could be a huge bust too. Alan Branch is a heck of a DT, but his stock has been dropping lately in taht he resembles shades of a bunch of other busts at DT (Dewayne Robertson, Jonathan Sullivan all had the same build and strengths coming into the NFL, and they suck now).

[Mista Hollywood]

He's great, as long you don't mind your safety being terrible in coverage and missing tackles =)
:lol:

that only happened sometimes :angry:

[Meade Lacrosse]

Schaub headed to Houston.


ATL stole from Houston. They swap firsts this year (Houston moves down to 10, ATL moves up to 8), Houston gives ATL 2nd round picks this year AND next year.

Honestly, who knows who they are targeting right now. If they want Laron Landry, they'll do fine at 8, unless the Skins plan on picking him up to make up for Arch. If that happens, they'll have the DE they want, either Anderson or Adams.

BUT the biggest thing they could do is to trade everything they got today for the #2 or #3 pick and pick up Calvin Johnson.

The Falcons have set themselves up VERY nicely for this years draft.

[BoiledEggs]

Thats pretty stupid trade. They should have kept shaub hes a great QB, and to move up two picks is stupid, who could they possibbly want. I would have only traded him to move up into the top 5. Now what happens if vick gets hurt, which he gets hurt often.

[Meade Lacrosse]

Matt Schaub is FAR from a good quarterback. That said, he's just as far from a bad quarterback.

Trading for Matt Schaub is like drafting a Quarterback in the draft. Only he's 3 years older, and has NFL experience under his belt.


That said, 2 nd rounders is a steal by the Falcons for a guy thats unproven, probably never gonna get used unless Vick goes down (which is happened once I believe).

[Meade Lacrosse]

Carr gets waived a day after Schaub comes in.


The Texans front office is by far, the most rediculous I've ever seen.

[Mista Hollywood]

well now david carr is with the panthers and he will back up delhomme.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2827930

[Meade Lacrosse]

While we're at it, any one have mock drafts for the top 10 selections. I think the Raiders go with Russell, but I can see Russell and Quinn turning into another Ryan Leaf, Peyton Manning thing.

JaMarcus Russell showed up to the combine, didn't work out, and was out of shape. But every one knows he has a hell of an arm.

Same thing happened to Leaf.

Brady Quinn has his pro day, but the knock on him is he never won a big game his entire career.

Same thing about Manning.

[osulax]

one big difference, both russell and quinn seem to be mentally stable and have the right attitude and focus to succeed in the nfl. ryan leaf was a total wack job.

[navylax161]

wat about the pats picking up adalius thomas?

[Bedford lax13]

The best off-season went to the patriots they got Adalius Thomas who is a great linbacker they got an all around player in Wes Welker and they got a few big fast recievers like Donte Stallworth.

[CtLaxin]

The best off-season went to the patriots they got Adalius Thomas who is a great linbacker they got an all around player in Wes Welker and they got a few big fast recievers like Donte Stallworth.

they did not have the best offseason, you may think that because you are a fan and they got a few good players. But they overpaid adalius thomas and didnt fill holes and also your one of your best defensman are about to leave

[Meade Lacrosse]

I think the Patriots will blow up this offseason after teh draft. They have the chance to get Brandon Merriweather and Lawrence Timmons in the draft. They always draft remarkably.


THIS DRAFT CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH! ARGH!

[CtLaxin]

Then who had a better offseason?


the Broncos easily

[Meade Lacrosse]

Is the Bronco's defensive line fixed yet though? Your offense can put up points, and your CBs sound promising, but I'm not sure on your Safeties, LBs, and DL. I know you guys have DJ Williams, but then who? Al Wilson just got cut, so I'm not sold on that.

John Lynch is strictly a tackling safety. He's practically no help in the coverage scheme. I'm not sure about your other safety, but if he's a coverage monster, than your DBs are set.

For years you guys have added worthless DEs (i.e. The Browncos). So its probably that you add someone through the draft. Jarvis Moss is a likelyhood.

Its still a damn tragedy what happened to Darrent Williams. RIP.